Your perfect e bike

JRA

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Now that there is some knowledge of what is available for technology in the e bike marketplace how would your dream bike be set up? And why?

I have been thinking about it and here's mine:

Frame: Steel Mixte with horizontal drop outs and elevated chain stay design to allow for belt drive.

Fork: Steel with extra strong dropouts, torque arm and disc tab (see motor)

Wheels: 35mm inner width 650b rim rear
35mm inner width 700c rim front
14ga. spokes
3 spd Shimano 135mm rear hub with belt drive sprocket and center lock disc mount
Front hub (see motor)
3.0 27.5+ tire rear
2.2 700c tire front

Brakes: Avid bb7 cable activated disc 180mm front rotor/160mm rear

Cranks: 170mm with belt drive sprocket

BB: 73mm threaded

Other: Brooks B15 saddle with suspension seat post
Carbon fiber bars
Adjustable stem
Grabon foam grips
Cut out brake levers
Rear Rack
Cell phone mount
Bell
Rear view mirror
LED Headlight
LED Taillight with accelerometer
Fenders
Pletscher double kickstand
A good lock!

Motor: 500w geared front hub motor with disc mount

Battery: 13s 4p, 29E cells, 47v, 11.0ah Rectangular

Controller: 9fet Infineon

Power meter: Turnigy

I would use this bike to do all my single person, single purpose needs within 30 miles of my home. Mostly to carry some weighted objects on the rear rack like going to the market or hardware store etc.. The battery would live in the space between the mixte style top tube and down tube which is a rectangular space. The reason for the mixte frame is to be able to step through if the objects on the rear rack are in the way of throwing a leg over and also to make the bike as adaptable to others shorter than myself as possible.

I know that front hubs are not that popular but I have had good success with them and using a geared motor the ability to pedal the bike while not under power is almost as good as if it wasn't there. As long as they are properly fastened to a strong fork with torque arms they will never be a problem. And you have two wheel drive! The 3 spd is speced because I feel that with assist you don't need a lot of gears. One to go uphill, one to go across town and another to go downhill work fine. Bike would be geared so that in 3rd there would be good pedal resistance at the top of the motor speed and some beyond. The ability to change gears at a standstill is also a plus.

The idea is that the bike will be probably good for a little over the legal 20 mph but not much under power. That is good enough for my personal needs and cuts out the red tape. I like to pedal and would have no problem getting at least 30 miles out of the battery and that would suffice for a daily driver.

Estimated cost would be +/- $2k.
 

J.R.

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Any ebike that helps me as needed, is comfortable, will ride all day at 15-20mph (75 miles) and 25-30mph for quick bursts as needed (25 miles), costs less than $2k and weighs less than 40lb, of which there are none.... Yet! I'm hopeful though. :)
 

Brambor

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For me it would be less than 40 pounds, probably nice metal frame, look and work like a real bicycle, triple battery power, adjustable torque on the fly (button operated), mid drive, quiet, automatic built in GPS based route recording, wifi sync, wired lights and blinkers, adjustable regenerative braking on the fly (button operated), 30 mph (adjustable downwards for different paths and laws), fenders and perhaps ultralight front and rear racks included.
 
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PowerMe

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My perfect eBike:

- bike weighs less than 40 lbs
- throttle + PAS (using both Torque & Cadence sensors) + mid drive
- customizable levels of assist (5 levels)
- real world range of 100 miles for a 200 lb man @ 25 mph
- stealth (battery totally hidden, hub even smaller than geared hubs, and totally silent)
- battery charge from 10% to 100% in less than 3 hrs, 10% to 75% in 1 hr (length of average lunch)
- heart rate sensing can adjust level of PAS
- fully integrated with smartphone with all the stats a cyclist would want or need (customizable)
- connected to the Internet
- integrated lock, GPS tracking, theft alert, siren
- all components are locked/bolted for security
- EZ tire change
- pedals like Wellgo MG-1 included
- carbon belt drive (or whatever is the latest & best available)
- integrated lights & loud horn
- includes suspension seat post (best in class)
- includes saddle of choice (like Brooks)
- total package under $4,000 & no additional reoccurring or subscription costs
 
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PowerMe

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Oh I forgot one important thing: wide range of frame sizes and choice of low step thru as a choice!
 

DWEBiker

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My dream bike would have wireless charging and a bluetooth bike management system for use with my smartphone.
 

stevenast

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I've been thinking about this since I saw your post last night. My conclusion is that I would pretty much like the bike that I have now, which is a mountain-hybrid style. Highly reliable electric system, mid-drive, very puncture resistant tires, quality components. I guess one thing I would like, if there was no extra cost, would be full suspension instead of hard tail. :)
 

Cameron Newland

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My dream bike would be a Grace MX II Trail (Bosch mid-drive, 48V/400Wh battery, Avid hydraulic disc brakes, Gates Carbon Drive, Nuvinci IGH), except with full suspension and priced $1,000+ less (it currently sells for $4,500 in the US, and that's if you can even manage to order one through a shop, as many aren't taking orders for these bikes anymore). I wish I could buy one for ~$3,000 or $3,500. Right now I'm riding the 2015 IZIP E3 Dash, which is a great compromise since it costs $1,600 less than the Grace MX II, but I'm sure I'd prefer the Carbon Drive and hydraulic brakes and better hill climbing that is available on the Grace MX II.

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Also, I wish that a full suspension bike could be equipped with a full rear rack setup, but currently, due to the way the rear suspension and the chain stay and the seat stay work, nobody seems to have been able to find a way to mount a full rear rack on a full suspension bike other than by taking the shortcut of mounting a small rear rack to the seat post, which significantly limits the weight you can carry.

My second-place dream bike would be an S-pedelec (28mph) full-suspension Haibike mid-drive that would also somehow be equipped with a full rear cargo rack (again, I don't this is feasible at the moment because it's difficult to find a capable rear rack that works with full suspension bikes).
 

Ravi Kempaiah

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My dream bike would be a Grace MX II Trail (Bosch mid-drive, 48V/400Wh battery, Avid hydraulic disc brakes, Gates Carbon Drive, Nuvinci IGH), except with full suspension and priced $1,000+ less (it currently sells for $4,500 in the US, and that's if you can even manage to order one through a shop, as many aren't taking orders for these bikes anymore). I wish I could buy one for ~$3,000 or $3,500. Right now I'm riding the 2015 IZIP E3 Dash, which is a great compromise since it costs $1,600 less than the Grace MX II, but I'm sure I'd prefer the Carbon Drive and hydraulic brakes and better hill climbing that is available on the Grace MX II.

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Also, I wish that a full suspension bike could be equipped with a full rear rack setup, but currently, due to the way the rear suspension and the chain stay and the seat stay work, nobody seems to have been able to find a way to mount a full rear rack on a full suspension bike other than by taking the shortcut of mounting a small rear rack to the seat post, which significantly limits the weight you can carry.

My second-place dream bike would be an S-pedelec (28mph) full-suspension Haibike mid-drive that would also somehow be equipped with a full rear cargo rack (again, I don't this is feasible at the moment because it's difficult to find a capable rear rack that works with full suspension bikes).

This bike has everything you mentioned except the belt drive. Also the styling is different.
But one of the well regarded bikes in EU.

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