Riese & Müller Load Touring HS Review

Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Electric Bike Review
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Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Bosch Performance Line Speed Mid Motor
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Bosch Powerpack 400 X Fusion Glyde Spring Rear Suspension
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Ergonomic Grips Bell Display Panel
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Spinner Grind Os 50 Mm Suspension Fork
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Double Child Seat With Harness
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Custom Double Leg Kickstand
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Optional Rear Rack With Rubber Band Straps
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs 10 Speed Shimano Deore Xt Derailleur
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Tektro Auriga Comp Hydraulic Disc Brakes 203 Mm Rotor Back
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Bosch 4 Amp Battery Charger
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Electric Bike Review
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Bosch Performance Line Speed Mid Motor
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Bosch Powerpack 400 X Fusion Glyde Spring Rear Suspension
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Ergonomic Grips Bell Display Panel
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Spinner Grind Os 50 Mm Suspension Fork
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Double Child Seat With Harness
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Custom Double Leg Kickstand
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Optional Rear Rack With Rubber Band Straps
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs 10 Speed Shimano Deore Xt Derailleur
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Tektro Auriga Comp Hydraulic Disc Brakes 203 Mm Rotor Back
Riese And Muller Load Touring Hs Bosch 4 Amp Battery Charger

Summary

  • One of the only full suspension electric cargo bikes I've tested, the suspension is adjustable and provides a lot of comfort to you and your cargo when paired with the premium Schwalbe tires
  • Excellent safety features including integrated LED lights, the headlight points where you steer and has side windows for increased visibility, reflective tire stripes increase your visual footprint
  • Several options for the cargo box including marine-grade wooden walls (short or high), a canvas cover, a transparent child cover, infant seat mount, and double-kid bench seat with five point harnesses
  • Adjustable angle stem with telescoping eight pairs with the extra-long seat tube and angled seat post to accommodate a wide range of riders despite only being offered in one size, limited turning radius, rear rack costs extra

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Introduction

Make:

Riese & Müller

Model:

Load Touring HS

Price:

$6,679

Body Position:

Upright

Suggested Use:

Urban, Cargo

Electric Bike Class:

Speed Pedalec (Class 3)
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Warranty:

2 Year Comprehensive, 5 Year Frame

Availability:

United States, Europe

Model Year:

2017

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

73 lbs (33.11 kg)

Battery Weight:

5.7 lbs (2.58 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.8 lbs (3.99 kg)

Frame Material:

Aluminum

Frame Sizes:

19.5 in (49.53 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

19.5" Seat Tube, 21" Reach, 25.5" Stand Over Height, 97" Length

Frame Types:

Mid-Step

Frame Colors:

Graphite Black Matte, White, Lime, Cyan

Frame Fork Details:

Spinner Grind OS, 50 mm Travel, Preload Adjust, 100 / 9 mm Skewer with Quick Release

Frame Rear Details:

X-Fusion Glyde R-PV Spring Suspension (Single Pivot) with Three Spring Options (60 kg, 90 kg, 120 kg), 135 / 9 mm Skewer with Quick Release

Attachment Points:

Rear Rack Bosses, Fender Bosses

Gearing Details:

10 Speed 1x10 Shimano Deore XT Derailleur, Shimano Deore HG50 11-36T Cogset

Shifter Details:

Shimano Deore Triggers on Right

Cranks:

Riese & Müller Branded FSA Alloy 170 mm Crank Arms, 20T Chainring

Pedals:

VP-191 Alloy Platform with Rubber Tread

Headset:

FSA TH No 9, Semi-Integrated, 1-1/8" Diameter

Stem:

Riese & Müller, Alloy, Adjustable Angle (180° with 3 Positions), Telescoping Height (3" with 5 Positions)

Handlebar:

FSA V-Drive, Alloy, Flat, 31.8 mm Diameter, 23.5" Length

Brake Details:

Tektro Auriga Comp Hydraulic Disc with 160 mm Front Rotor 203 mm Back Rotor, Tektro Auriga Comp Levers with Adjustable Reach

Grips:

Ergon GP1, Ergonomic Rubber, Locking

Saddle:

Selle Royale Lookin, Gel

Seat Post:

Aluminum Alloy

Seat Post Length:

430 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

34.9 mm

Rims:

Alexrims MD30 Front 30 mm Width 32 Hole, Alexrims MD30 Rear 30 mm Wide 36 Hole, Aluminum Alloy, Double Wall

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 14 Gauge, Black with Silver Nipples

Tire Brand:

Front: Schwalbe Big Ben Plus, 20" x 2.15" (55-406), Rear: Big Ben Plus, 26" x 2.15" (55-559)

Wheel Sizes:

20 in (50.8cm)26 in (66.04cm)

Tire Details:

Reflective Sidewall Stripe, 30 to 55 PSI, Performance Line GreenGuard

Tube Details:

Presta Valve

Accessories:

Flick Bell on Right, ABUS Protectus Cafe Lock, SKS B60 Front B65 Rear Plastic Fenders (60 mm, 65 mm Width), Clear Plastic Slap Guard Sticker, Custom Load Alloy Double-Leg Kickstand, Integrated Busch & Müller Lumotec IQ-X LED (100 Lux), Integrated Busch & Müller Secula Plus LED, Alternative Grip and Pedals from SALTPLUS BMX (Color Choices: Black, Lilac, Lime, Orange, Red, White), Optional Dual Battery Mount ($988), Optional Baby Seat Attachment for Front ($143), Optional Double Child Seat ($176), Optional Child Cover ($275), Optional High Sidewalls Inside ($165), Optional High Sidewalls Inside with Tarpaulin Cover ($275), Optional Optional Rear Rack ($143), Optional Abus Bordo Plus 90 cm Folding Lock ($110)

Other:

Locking Removable Battery Pack, 1.7 lb 4 Amp Charger, Maximum Rider Weight 264 lbs, Maximum Load in Loading Area 220 lbs, Three Rear Suspension Spring Options (90kg)

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bosch Performance Line Speed

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

350 watts

Motor Torque:

63 Newton meters

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

13.4 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

482.4 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

3.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

25 miles (40 km)

Estimated Max Range:

50 miles (80 km)

Display Type:

Bosch Intuvia, Removable, Adjustable Angle, Grayscale, Backlit LCD, (Hold Reset and i for Settings Menu)

Readouts:

Speed, Assist Level (Eco, Tour, Sport, Turbo), Battery Level (1-5), Odometer, Trip Distance, Estimated Range, Clock, Max Speed, Average Speed, Trip Time, Shift Assist Recommendation

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad with Tactile Feedback on Left, 5 Volt 500 mA Micro-USB Port on Display

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Measures Wheel Speed, Pedal Cadence and Pedal Torque, Power Output Relative to Pedal Input: Eco 55% 40 Nm, Tour 120% 50 Nm, Sport 190% 55 Nm, Turbo 275% 63 Nm)

Top Speed:

28 mph (45 kph)

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Written Review

The Load is a spectacular electric bike… it’s an ebike with a trunk! A sporty, front-mounted trunk that’s suspended to protect your valuable items or little people. For this review, I met with Chris Nolte, the owner of Propel Bikes, under the Brooklyn Queens Expressway at the Golconda Skate Park in Brooklyn New York. It just so happened to be raining, so this covered skate park gave us an opportunity to stay dry and experiment with curbs and ramps, testing out the front and rear suspension systems. The Riese & Müller Load comes in four flavors, two with high-torque Bosch CX motors and two with the Bosch Performance Line Speed motor offering 20 mph and 28 mph top speeds respectively. You get to choose from a traditional ten-speed Shimano Deore XT drivetrain with sprockets or the NuVinci continuously variable transmission which is slightly heavier but can be shifted at standstill. Both use chain drives vs. belts because of the way the the rear swing arm is setup. The specific model I test rode in the video review was the Touring HS which is the 10-speed high-speed option. I wasn’t sure how I’d feel riding a cargo bike above 20 mph but came away very impressed and excited. This product behaves a lot more like a standard ebike than a cargo model, the two-wheel setup is easier to turn and maneuver than other three-wheled cargo bikes but you still get a front bucket that’s easier to manage while riding… you just look down. For those with an infant or young children, the front-bucket gives you more chances to communicate and eliminates the need to twist backwards or look over your shoulder and perhaps get distracted while also managing gears and assist level. While the frame only comes in one size, the extra-long seat post, telescoping stem, and adjustable angle on the stem make it versatile. You can adapt the bike to fit tall and short riders, and as the seat gets raised, it naturally moves backwards because of the angle. I enjoyed the soft gel saddle, ergonomic grips, and medium-sized city tires. They smoothed out the bumps but still felt efficient, and they also increased safety. Notice the silver stripes of reflective material lining the sidewalls of the tires? These strips are highly visible in low lighting conditions and compliment the front and rear LED lights that run off the main battery pack. These lights are thoughtfully engineered and upgraded from the generic products I see on entry-level ebikes. The headlight is mounted in such a way that it points where you steer, it has windows on the sides to help you be seen from multiple directions, and it has a cutoff section towards the top so it won’t blind oncoming traffic. By default, with the high-speed version of this bicycle, the lights come on automatically, any time the bike is powered up. The final safety option comes down to your style preferences, Riese & Müller offers the Load in four colors including white. This option would be the most visible at night when riding in traffic, but the Lime Green would also be a good choice and I have to admit, the Cyan Blue looks beautiful. I guess Black is alright for people who want a more masculine look or are going for timeless. The standard touch points are black and silver but Riese & Müller offers five alternative colors to really spice things up. If you choose one of these alternatives (including a replacement for the standard black) they install SALTPLUS BMX parts instead. And this brings us to one of the big considerations with any Riese & Müller e-bike product in the US, aside from price, you have to custom order it because they build to suit. This adds additional wait time (from one to two months) from the moment you decide to pull the trigger.

Driving the Load is one of two motors, as mentioned earlier, but they have a lot in common and I believe the underlying hardware is the same. Bosch is the maker, and they’re one of the best and most sought after in the market at the time of this review. You may have heard about Bosch before ebikes because they also make power tools, car parts, washing machines, and a whole range of other heavy duty hardware. This motor system is in its third generation and I hear from shops all around the world that it is one of the most reliable. The controller measures rear wheel speed, pedal speed, and pedal torque, one thousand times per second! It uses this feedback to help you start from rest more easily. And that’s a big deal given the 73 lb unloaded weight of the Load. If you’ve got kids or cargo in there and are starting on an incline, a motor like this is ideal… and perhaps the NuVinci CVT drivetrain, which can be shifted at standstill. In addition to pedal signals, the Bosch controller also listens for shifting signals and eases power off so the motor won’t strain the chain, sprockets, or derailleur. It’s not a foolproof system because you NEED to shift hard sometimes and it’s important to have motor power kick in based on riding first, so you can still mash the gears if you’re not thoughtful. I usually ease off a bit when shifting… it works pretty well and it’s something you get used to. This motor is positioned low on the frame and reduces unsprung weight compared to a hub motor. It improves balance front to rear and has a plastic cover to keep it protected from minor bumps and scrapes. Note that the chainring is extra small compared to traditional hardware. It spins at roughly 2.5 times your own pedal speed and produces a high pitched whining noise at the higher RPM levels. You can see and hear it in the video, and there’s a plastic cover to help your pants or dress sluff over the side vs. getting greasy and snagged.

Powering all current versions of the Load is one or two Bosch Powerpack 500 batteries. This pack is 25% larger than the second generation pack which offered roughly 400-watt hours, but only weighs 0.3 lbs more. It looks nearly identical and the mounting interface is actually backward compatible so you can use older batteries you might have from previous electric bikes. While the pack is not as integrated as some of the fancier road and mountain bikes, it is easy to access, charge on or off the bike, and protected from all sides by frame tubing. If you opt for a second Powerpack 500, which must be done at the time of original purchase because it requires a different display, they will add a mount on the back-left of the cargo box. This does imbalance the bike very slightly, but keeps the pack out of harm’s way, protecting it from frame bumps and water. I love that all versions of the Load come with front and rear plastic fenders. These won’t bend like Aluminum, they won’t rust like Steel, and they tend to be very light… but can rattle. So R&M have reinforced them with extra support arms. Notice how quiet the bike rides in the video review when I mount my camera in different locations. The fenders are different sizes because the wheels are different sizes. From a design standpoint, this makes steering easier, allows you to see down in front of the bike easier, improves the strength of the front wheel, and lowers the center of gravity on the bucket. When you really study the frame, you start to appreciate the excellent ground clearance between the wheels but also how low the front box is, making it easier to load or climb into for kids.

Operating the bike is intuitive and fast. Once the battery pack is charged and mounted and the display is also in place (since it can be removed) you just press the power button at the lower left corner and it blinks to life. From here, you can see your speed, battery level, assist level, a power output indicator, and trip stats. Pressing the information “i” button on either the display or button pad mounted near your left grip, will cycle through the stats including odometer, clock, max speed, range, and others. Range is cool because it updates instantaneously as you use the plus and minus buttons to select different support levels. I usually ride in Tour which is one step up from the lowest Eco. This maximizes range while still feeling comfortable. For the review, I rode around in Turbo to hit the maximum 28 mph assisted speed. You might notice that the motor fades out quietly when approaching the top speed. It feels smooth and keeps the bike stable vs. an abrupt on/off feeling that cadence sensors and throttles can produce. The bike is constantly listening to how you ride, how much battery capacity is left, and what assist level you’re in to keep its range estimate fairly accurate. Considering that you’ll have 10 gears or a CVT to work with, the bike can certainly be pedaled without power, but it might be best to conserve energy using Eco mode vs. running out on a longer trip. The display panel itself is large, easy to read, adjustable in terms of angle for reduced glare, and it has a Micro-USB port built into the top right edge. I have used this to maintain my iPhone for use as a GPS but it could also charge a music player, secondary lighting system (like holiday lights if you added them to your frame) and other portable electronics. For those who mightuse the Load as a car replacement, I’d recommend always taking the display off when parking outside to reduce sun damage and potential scratches from other parked bikes. You can park this bike differently than most because it has a sturdy double-leg kickstand and doesn’t need to lean against a rack. It comes with a cafe lock to disable the rear wheel (a rod slides through the spokes so it can’t turn) and since the bike is so heavy, someone would really have to work to lift and run off with it. Both wheels offer quick release, which is nice for maintenance and transport, but use a cable lock to secure them when parking for long periods because the wheels and tires could be taken.

As cool as the Riese & Müller Load Touring HS e-bike is, there are some complaints that I’ve heard about from actual owners in parts of Europe (where it has been available longer). The cargo area is just barely large enough for two children, many parents have opted for the longer Packster 80 instead. The five-point harness system that comes with the child bench seat can be difficult to snap when your child is squirming because you have to juggle multiple parts at once… but at least they stay put once you’ve got it! I noticed and hypothesized that fingers could get squished if kids are holding onto the side of the bucket because there isn’t an outer guard. Keep this in mind when squeezing through tight traffic or walled pathways. But again, the upsides are many with two-wheels and a narrower cargo bin. You can turn quickly, avoid bumps and potholes easily because the wheels are in a line vs. spread out on three-wheeled cargo bikes. I came into this review thinking that I didn’t need or want an electric cargo bike because I’m a young man without kids who is capable of wearing a backpack. But I came out feeling like this was the Audi station wagon of electric cargo bikes! It’s fast, sporty, comfortable, great looking, and utilitarian. I don’t love wearing backpacks… it would be easy to toss my laundry, bookbag, groceries, gym bag, etc. into the front and zip away instantly. I could even get the suspended rear rack for use with a pannier and keep the front open for my dog, so we could cruise to different parts of town for our walks. In my opinion, this electric bike is really fantastic and it comes from a company I trust that is relying on other companies that I trust to deliver a safe, long-lasting experience. You’ll be able to find replacement battery packs long into the future and even though it will be annoying to replace two different sized tires, I think the improvements in handling and stability are worth it. Just choose your color, drivetrain, top speed, and battery options wisely! Big thanks to Riese & Müller for partnering with me on this post and to Chris for risking his life riding the Load down stairs… I can’t believe it worked so well, even when we bottomed out a bit on the second pass.

Pros:

  • This is one of the only high-speed full suspension electric cargo bikes I have ever seen, and it feels stable at higher speeds vs. wobbly like a lot of others
  • Nearly all of the hardware weight is suspended, even the optional rear rack, this allows the suspension to work more efficiently while protecting sensitive electonic parts like the motor and battery, many other e-cargo bikes use hub motors and have no suspension
  • You get multiple options for how the cargo bay is setup, it comes stock without the side boards but you can add low or high walls (made with marine-grade treated wood), an infant seat, a double-child seat, a flat canvas cover or a high clear cover for passengers
  • Because the cargo bay is positioned in front of the rider, it’s easier to keep tabs on your gear or little ones, many other cargo ebikes have a long rear end so you have to look back which can be destracting
  • Integrated LED lights help you stay visible, I love that the headlight points where you steer, the bike is offered in four colors choices including white, which would increase your visual footprint from the side in low light conditions
  • Note that the headlight has two little windows on the sides, this allows cars to spot you from more directions,
    it also has a beam-director lens that keeps light from shining up into the eyes of oncoming traffic
  • The tires feature GreenGuard puncture resistant layers and have reflective sidewall tape, they are high-quality and should last longer but unfortunately replacing them could be expensive since they are different sizes
  • I appreciate the included fenders, they look great, are sized appropriately and are reinforced with additional support rods to limit rattling and bouncing
  • Even though the frame only comes in one size, the handlebar can be angled forward and raised to accommodate taller riders (you would also raise the seat post to increase leg extension)
  • The suspension elements are adjustable, you can swap out springs to increase or decrease stiffness at the rear and fine tune preload on the fork (though it does not have lockout)
  • A heavy-duty, custom made, double-leg kickstand supports the bike well, this makes it easy to load while parked but stows quickly by pushing the bike forward when you’re ready to go
  • You can choose from the Bosch Speed motor with 28 mph top speed or high-torque CX with 20 mph top speed which now also has an eMTB mode converting Sport level assist into a full range of output requiring less interaction with the display, I was testing the Touring model which uses a traditional 10-speed cassette… both motors offer shift detection to reduce gear mashing but you could opt for the NuVinci continuously variable transmission to allow shifting at standstill and zero mashing
  • It comes stock with the latest Bosch Powerpack 500 which offers 25% more capacity than the older Powerpack 400,
    this is especially useful in a hauling scenario or if you ride faster (as with the HS version here) because efficiency drops significantly above 20 mph due to air resistance
  • The Load can be fitted with a second Bosch Powerpack to increase range, they mount it to the back left side of the cargo box and you have to order it when you get the bike because it uses a slightly different display which balances the packs, using the second mount is nice because it locks the battery to the bike and might extend the life of both by keeping them in the 20% to 80% range vs. completely draining one pack then physically swapping in another
  • In addition to the four frame color choices, Riese & Müller also offers six touch-point colors which switch your hardware from Ergon and VP to SALTPLUS BMX parts, I like how they look but prefer the black Ergon grips
  • Both the battery pack and display panel can be removed for charging, safe storage, and reduced bike weight during transport, I love that the battery has an integrated loop handle to reduce accidental drops
  • The display panel is large, easy to read, and backlit for use in the early morning or at night, it has a five volt Micro-USB port on the right edge which can charge a mobile phone or other portable electronic device when riding
  • Considering the extra focus required to balance (and perhaps monitor children) I feel that the Bosch drive system was an excellent choice because it is smooth, intuitive, and easy to adjust without looking down, you can memorize the up, down, and i buttons very quickly and they feel obvious and click when you press
  • The Bosch Performance Line motor controller listens for rear wheel speed, pedal cadence, and pedal torque 1,000 times per second, making it very responsive, I never felt like I was struggling to get started or being over-helped when trying to stop because it’s so fast
  • You get a couple of additional cool accessories like the cafe lock (which secures the rear wheel without requiring the entire bike to be locked), and the mini flick bell to signal other riders in a friendly way
  • The front wheel turns easily because the wheel diameter is smaller, the steering rod is strong and tight, and much of the weight is either towards the middle or back of the bike, in short, the front wheel lowers the center of gravity and is easy to maneuver with
  • It’s nice to have suspension, a comfortable gel saddle, and ergonomic grips to reduce back, neck, and hand fatigue,
    but you should hit as many bumps with this bike as you might with a trike because the two wheels are easier to steer around obstacles than three
  • Given the added weight and potentially higher top speed of this bike, I was delighted to see upgraded hyddraulic disc brakes with 160 mm up front and 203 mm in the rear (that’s mountain bike sized), the adjustable-reach levers are nice for if you’re wearing gloves or have small/large hands
  • If you go with the Touring models (which use a 10-speed Shimano Deore XT drivetrain vs. Nuvinci CVT) the front and rear wheels are both quick release which makes fixing flats, doing maintenance, and moving the bike faster and easier (though the wheels could also get stolen easier too)
  • This bike has walk mode which is handy if you’ve got a bunch of stuff or a kid in the front and are trying to maneuver down a sidewalk or through a crowd, it lets you focus on stabilizing the bike without struggling to push at the same time (press the walk mode button on top of the button pad near the left grip and then hold plus to get it working)

Cons:

  • The cargo bay is great for groceries, two very small children or one medium sized kid… but it could be a little packed if you try to do kids and cargo, consider the Riese & Müller Packster for additional space
  • The cargo bucket is fairly wide compared to the Packster and other rear-mount cargo bikes, this could impact where you take the bike and limit how you navigate through tight traffic
  • Weighing in at ~73 lbs, this is a heavier electric bike… but not unreasonably so given the form factor and hauling capacity, still, depending on your access to a truck or trailer it may be difficult to transport
  • There are no bottle cage bosses built onto the frame and the rear rack costs extra, for people who get the stock Load, you may have to wear a hydration pack or toss a bottle into the cargo bay
  • There’s always a trade-off when it comes to cargo bikes and the Load has balanced maneuverability and comfort against hauling capacity, it feels more natural than a trike in my opinion but requires a bit more skill to get started and a bit more strength to stabilize at stops when fully loaded
  • The NuVinci option adds weight and is not compatible with a belt drive on this particular model, this is only a minor gripe but chains tend to be messier and louder, I belive they skipped a belt drive here to maintain rear swing arm strength and a particular geometry (belts often require a cut through the frame to be mounted)
  • Riese & Müller build to order which means you get lots of choices but it also takes longer to actually buy the bike, you have to wait over a month for it to be shipped if you live in the USA, they also cost more because they use high quality parts and are custom engineered
  • The five-point child seatbelts are neat, they really keep children secure, but I have heard that they can be difficult to clip in if your kid is squirming a lot… the buckles can be difficult to align and snap in
  • Consider getting the cover or high-walls for the bucket if you’re worried about your kids holding the tubing and getting their fingers squished, there isn’t really a guard there to protect them like I have seen on some rear-seat cargo bikes that have double tubing so the kid grabs the inner tube and the outer tube takes scrapes and impact if the bike tips
  • The turning radius is a bit limited due to length of the wheelbase but it does corner alright, you may need to execute a multi-point turn or get off occasionally to lift the front of the bike in tight environments

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andrew lawrence
6 months ago

It really resonated with me when you described this bike as sort of an Audi station wagon. I drive a Subaru Outback, but get the point – this is what most people really need and can do anything you need it to.

My only question is whether long wheelbase bikes like this will fit on a standard 2-arm hitch mounted rack, or will need to be supported at both wheels.

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Backnine
2 weeks ago

I tried out the new Trek Verve+ today
I liked the way it shifted and the smooth transition when assist kicked it. I tried it out here in Florida where I am on vacation but would be using in and around the Adirondack Mountains in Northern NY where it is quite hilly. Many of my rides there would be 40-50 miles but would usually be using the ECO assist level because I still like a good workout. I also live on top of a 2 mile hill so it would be nice to have some battery left at the end of a long ride. Also I plan to do some touring with a 30-40 pound load. I own two Treks now: the 520 touring bike on which I have taken several 600 mike trips. I love it! I also have a Trek carbon 5000 (not 100% sure of the model). Love that one too. I am 65 and plan to continue riding them but am wiped out after long (40+ mile) rides so I think the combo of both bikes would be helpful. Also looking at the Giant E+ Road bike but that lists for $4000. Hope that helps you suggest the best option for me. I welcome all input!
Sounds like I am in the same boat as you. Living in Adirondacks and trying to figure out how to get up all the hills. I have a cannondale hard tail 29 that I will probably convert but still doing research. have you reached any conclusions?

John from Connecticut
3 weeks ago

I liked the way it shifted and the smooth transition when assist kicked it. I tried it out here in Florida where I am on vacation but would be using in and around the Adirondack Mountains in Northern NY where it is quite hilly. Many of my rides there would be 40-50 miles but would usually be using the ECO assist level because I still like a good workout. I also like on top of a 2 mile hill so it would be nice to have some battery left at the end of a long ride. Also I plan to do some touring with a 30-40 pound load. I own two Treks now: the 520 touring bike on which I have taken several 600 mike trips. I love it! I also have a Trek carbon 5000 (not 100% sure of the model). Love that one too. I am 65 and plan to continue riding them but am wiped out after long (40+ mile) rides so I think the combo of both bikes would be helpful. Also looking at the Giant E+ Road bike but that lists for $4000. Hope that helps you suggest the best option for me. I welcome all input!

Hello Gary, First I admire that you've taken several 600 mile trips on your Trek 520. That is so cool....As for a touring e-bike, based on what you've written and your future needs/goals I
think the Trek may be a little understated. Will the Verve 20mph max be a 'problem'. That's a call you'll have to make. I have nothing to base this on, but gut reaction to what you've done in the past and what little ( very little ) I know of the Verve. I agree with 'e-boys' opinion that that Trek Verve seems like a great around town crusier, rail trail recreational bike and that may be just what you're looking and need.

I have a Trek XM700+. It is a go anywhere, any road, runs like the wind, a hill killer of a bike. I absolutely love it. Trek did a fantastic job. The Bosch power system, seamless
and the disk brakes are silky smooth with plenty stopping power. Because it was designed as a commuter, touring with tons of 'stuff' I'm guessing should be no problem.
Because the bike was designed in Europe ( I think Trek bought the company that designed and built the original) the sizing is a little odd. Larger then what is typical for the
US Market....Enough about the XM700+

My two cents ...Buying a bike is and should be a very personal choice. For me the XM700+ is the one. The Trek Verve may be yours. I knew next to nothing about e-bikes,
no shopping, no reading, no anything, never mind having ever ridden an e-bike. I took a test ride at my LBS Trek dealer, all of 15 minutes and said this bike is for me and
I've never looked back. With all of your cycling background I think if you can do a test ride or two you'll know. As e-boy said you can't go wrong with Trek and Bosch.
Good luck and I hope this was helpful.

John from CT

Gary R Peacock
3 weeks ago

I tried out the new Trek Verve+ today
I liked the way it shifted and the smooth transition when assist kicked it. I tried it out here in Florida where I am on vacation but would be using in and around the Adirondack Mountains in Northern NY where it is quite hilly. Many of my rides there would be 40-50 miles but would usually be using the ECO assist level because I still like a good workout. I also live on top of a 2 mile hill so it would be nice to have some battery left at the end of a long ride. Also I plan to do some touring with a 30-40 pound load. I own two Treks now: the 520 touring bike on which I have taken several 600 mike trips. I love it! I also have a Trek carbon 5000 (not 100% sure of the model). Love that one too. I am 65 and plan to continue riding them but am wiped out after long (40+ mile) rides so I think the combo of both bikes would be helpful. Also looking at the Giant E+ Road bike but that lists for $4000. Hope that helps you suggest the best option for me. I welcome all input!

Gary R Peacock
3 weeks ago

I just started shopping for an e-bike. Test drove the 2018 Trek Verve +. I really liked it but could not find any reviews. Anyone out there tried it yet? I think it is brand new.
I liked the way it shifted and the smooth transition when assist kicked it. I tried it out here in Florida where I am on vacation but would be using in and around the Adirondack Mountains in Northern NY where it is quite hilly. Many of my rides there would be 40-50 miles but would usually be using the ECO assist level because I still like a good workout. I also like on top of a 2 mile hill so it would be nice to have some battery left at the end of a long ride. Also I plan to do some touring with a 30-40 pound load. I own two Treks now: the 520 touring bike on which I have taken several 600 mike trips. I love it! I also have a Trek carbon 5000 (not 100% sure of the model). Love that one too. I am 65 and plan to continue riding them but am wiped out after long (40+ mile) rides so I think the combo of both bikes would be helpful. Also looking at the Giant E+ Road bike but that lists for $4000. Hope that helps you suggest the best option for me. I welcome all input!

Chris Nolte
3 months ago

Court and I had a visit with the Riese & Müller team at Interbike and Court made a video. Check it out below:

Here is Court’s Synopsis for reference:

For 2018, Riese & Müller is celebrating it’s 25th anniversary by launching a “top of the line” Deluxe Signature model. It’s built around their full suspension, dual-battery, Deluxe model which is designed for touring. It comes stock with two batteries for 1,000 watt hours, integrated metal lights, it uses a carbon handlebar, a Shimano XTR Di2 electronic shifting, and Fox Factory air suspension. This model is priced at $11,000 USD. They built it with all of the top-end components that they would like to have on their own personal bicycles without worrying about spending more, it’s a joint effort by Marcus Riese and Heiko Müller who founded the company, they are physically signing each model with a hand written autograph.

The Homage has also been updated, with a new 27.5” wheel size option with fatter tires. This should bring the frame closer to the ground for lower stand over height and offer some improvements with comfort and stability. This bike will be priced similar to before, maybe $100 more at the $5,899 price point. You can see my original review for the 2017 Homage model at: https://electricbikereview.com/riese-...

From here, we moved to the Packster 40 which is a slightly smaller version of the original Packster which I have reviewed here as the 2017 Packster 80 https://electricbikereview.com/riese-... The new version is shorter but still offers more load capacity than the Riese & Müller Load model which has full suspension. The packster is a bit less expensive as it only has a front suspension fork. One thing that struck me as being unique, was the look-through window on the front of the load that makes steering easier. It aims to be a crossover between a standard bike which is narrow, short, lightweight, and nimble, with a cargo bike that is capable of hauling supplies or a child. It fits one child and they are seated backwards so you can see them and talk with them easier. There’s a dropped area where feet can go and this doubles as a storage area for when you fold the soft seat materials down in. This model comes either with a belt drive and Nuvinci CVT or a standard chain and sprockets. You can get the Bosch CX or Bosch Speed motor here. The Nevo has also been updated with a 27.5” plus tire option, just like the Homage, this improves stability and adds some comfort when riding. You can watch the full Nevo review I did on the 2017 NuVinci model here: https://electricbikereview.com/riese-... they now offer a smaller frame size option at 43 cm which would be great for petite riders, it comes with 26” wheels, so even lower to the ground. Heiko told me that the Nevo was one of their most popular models in 2017. It is easy to approach but can still handle heavy riders up to 353 lbs. It also comes stock with an SR Suntour NCX Suspension seat post to improve comfort as well as a traditional suspension fork.

The Roadster model has also been updated for 2018, having a more integrated battery which seats into the downtube a bit. They now offer a mixte step-thru frame for people who cannot mount the diamond high-step frames as easily. I reviewed the 2017 roadster model at https://electricbikereview.com/riese-... it comes in white, metallic lime green, and matte black colors.

Heiko ended our interview by saying that 2018 looks very good for electric bikes, more people are adopting them (they were common to see at Interbike, very popular this year) and the options are getting better and better. Riese and Muller will be attending the Ebike Expo events around the USA in 2018 so you can go for test rides and there are a number of shops that now carry them including Propel in New York, New Wheel in San Francisco, and Splendid Cycles in Seattle (there are about 15 shops total at the time of this video). Because the models are more expensive, it’s great that they are growing their dealer base in the USA.

You can see some of my previous Riese & Müller ebike coverage at https://electricbikereview.com/brand/... and learn more about the company at their official website: https://www.r-m.de/

I’ll try to update this thread with photos later when I have more time.

Tom Meara
3 months ago

This is all good input. I do understand the variability of metering power while under a load, which is why I chose a flat(ish) route and a regular cadence while monitoring the power draw. One idea I have is to get a power meter (Kill a Watt) for my charger and see how much I'm putting back into the battery. My loaded touring bike (Atlantis) is just shy of 70 pounds. I'm well tuned to going slowly and using gearing so my battery doesn't get depleted. I was not planning to use this for rides in the country but it does look like it may be capable of that if you are willing to work some.

What makes it fun is upon returning from my 20 mile test my wife said I had to deliver 6 campaign yard signs to a friend who runs a restaurant in town then return with 6 of his signs, and pick up some lunch while your're there. I attached my grocery pannier, strapped the 6 Ferguson signs on the rack, and took off. Since I was tired, hungry and in traffic I set the bike to level 3 for the two mile downhill ride to the Lab. I delivered the signs, dropped two Havana Shakedown burritos into the pannier, strapped 6 more Besse signs to the rack and rode home. No sweat and still have 4 bars. Can't do that on my road bikes.

What makes this even sweeter is my garage is off grid. I put an array on the front to feed two 50 AH deep cycle batteries and have a 1000 watt inverter for lights and small power tools. I ride into the garage and plug in the charger to the solar system. I'm riding on sunshine.

Matt A
7 months ago

So, Rohloff Delite GX HS it was. I reached out to Chris Nolte of Propel and (at my prodding) he was kind enough to offer a modest discount on his floor model, but with the proviso that I had to wait for him to take delivery of another one before he sent the demo to me. Fair enough. Chris was good to his word re: estimated delivery time. Three weeks passed and sure enough, he got the new demo in and made arrangements to have the bike brought to my office on a Sunday afternoon (I live in a small city an hour or so north of NYC). Nice of him to go out of the way and offer to deliver as I had some personal things going on that would have kept me from picking it up within the next week or so.

First impressions: Sweet! Only 22 demo miles on the odometer. I already had a few alterations and additions in mind (guess that is the male version of "accessorizing") , but the essential core was all there - substantial frame, nice components, obviously well thought out, maybe a bit over-engineered - if that is even possible. Being purpose built exclusively as an e-bike, nothing about it has that "aftermarket-afterthought" feel. Solid as can be. No pretensions of being anything but a steady road warrior, capable of taking hard knocks and shrugging off the usual daily insults from the two ton motorized behemoths one encounters on the daily commute. Yeah, kind of a motorcycle feel, but still very much a vehicle that requires human input to motivate. Pretty heavy, but I had spent a lot of time in another life piloting touring bikes loaded down with four panniers and 50-69 additional lbs of gear, so I knew I wouldn't be phased by the weight that the two batteries and Bosch motor entailed. This thing knows it's purpose: built to bull through most stuff, on or off road, without the rider wondering if something is going to crack, snap off, or otherwise make things unpleasant.

As things go, the first week that I had it turned out to be nasty weather-wise. Record low temps, mixed precipitation. I think I clicked maybe 15 miles total over the over the first few days. On the first nice day, the following Sunday, I put 30 + miles on it. Super happy with it. Went on road and on trail. The brakes, suspension, beefy 27.5" tires, and power package all work well together. It's not a "pocket rocket", as we used to refer to certain motorcycles way back when, but the whole package works as advertised. I am liking it a lot. The Rohloff gives it an awesome low range, though I would like to get a bit more headroom at high speed ie. have pedal input over 30 mph. I did get the bike over 40 mph, but that was going down a big hill with inertia being the only motivator. In day to day riding, that really isn't a factor and I guess I could always put a smaller cog on the Rohloff at some point (but probably won't). At high speed, I had total confidence and the suspension ably handled a surprise pothole around 35 mph. Why potholes in NY in the spring should be a surprise, I don't know, but it was a substantial one nonetheless and the bike pretty much took it in stride. Power assist is just about right. At first you find yourself obsessing over the (4) available ranges, but I find myself pretty much either running it on tour or turbo mode. You definitely know that all those micro adjustments for shifting and human pedal effort are going on in the Bosch brain, but for the most part it just does that job well and it works rather seamlessly. After the first 100 or so miles, I was over any second thoughts about not having gotten a "throttle" type e-assist or opting for more power. Despite the added weight of the electric assist components, the pedal effort vs. a non-electric bike is reduced by maybe 50%, Works for me. The Intuvia controller is pretty straight forward. Almost like a typical bike computer but with power functions added. It took some getting used to not having the wealth of detailed data that the Cycle Analyst produces on my EcoSpeed trike setup, but simplicity is a good thing too. I am curious, Matt, how your Nyon is working out for you.

Time to start using the bike on a daily commuting basis. And then a few hiccups occur . . .
I enjoyed reading everything you wrote. I am glad I got the NuVinci, but only because of my riding stlye. The Rohloff is definitely better. I use the bike for going to a number of destinations around the city and I like to get done quickly, so I am constantly shifting as I ride around very quickly. If I owned a Rohloff, I'd likely get used to it but when I tried a demo I just hated it. I have been testing the limits of the bike a lot, and have crashed a number of times. The bike never gets hurt really, and the Nyon back is scuffed up from a couple spills but still works great. It is very detailed and I like looking at my rides afterwards. I ride almost always in Turbo, I only ride in Tour if I will be running out of battery. Hard to believe I know, but I frequently do over 60 miles on the bike at once. I am really looking forward to upgrading the suspension on the bike and having a set of MTB tires for off-roading. I have been testing the limits of the bike and have fallen off a number of times, so once I upgrade the rear shock and fork, I want to avoid scratching them lol.

There are a lot of paved trails near me and also some dirt and gravel trails too. I went up a steep climb on a 6 inch wide dirt path covered in roots and boulders like it was nothing. Coming back down was a bit scary with the Super Moto X tires that have 1500 miles of wear on them, I am sure I will feel much more confident with some nobby nics on like the GX has I believe. I never did any trail riding before, but I really had a blast trying it out and will be doing a lot of it in the future.

More on the Nyon, I really am glad I upgrades. It just looks so much cooler and gives you a ton of information. I know the exact battery percentage as well which is a plus since steep sections of a ride can really distort the range for the overall ride. You can see a map of your path and can see your altitude, cadence, speed, and power output and any point along the ride. I like the navigation, but it is not as good as Google Maps. It is just like using a tomtom or garmin sat nav. The directions are fine but the city has a lot of close streets, it would be nice to see the street names on the map but it just shows the roads with no names. Sometimes of course navigation lags a little, so it would be nice to see the name of the roads on screen. It does not show the names of random streets around you on the map, nor the name of the street you are supposed to turn onto next, and also not the street you are currently on. No street names, just an animation to follow. I really just like the Nyon for how it looks, the Intuvia works fine but it is such a simple display on a bike that has so much more to offer (not to mention it looks high tech).

The Nyon display does take a few extra seconds to load up, and sometimes restarts during a ride (not often). The good thing though is that the power assist works from the second you hit the power button, even though the display is loading. And when the Nyon restarts mid-ride for no reason, the assist never stops, so really doesn't bother me. One other thing is that the Nyon does not allow me to turn on the High Beam of my Supernova M99 Pro. The Intuvia light button worked for the high beam and also for turning it on during the day, but with the Nyon connected, the headlight is completely independent. It won't turn on when the sun is out, and won't turn off at night nor turn the high beam on, the light button is useless even though the light icon appears when I click it. Perhaps I need it to be changed to switchable from a shop, I have not checked yet. Worst case scenario I will have to attach the high beam button that came with the light, but it will not reach my handlebars since the light is mounted on the fork crown. I like it better there, the lighting is perfect and cars can see my lights better in their mirrors because it is at the same level as car headlights. I will have to epoxy the button onto the actualy light or something lol.

Fitzy
8 months ago

Just checking in. After about 6-weeks of daily use...at least 20-miles a day. Weekdays hitting 30MPH for short bursts, and cruising at about 25MPH in Touring-mode, weekends moderate off-road/trail riding, all in mixed and harsh weather, I can say I am well pleased not only with the FatSix, but also the Bikespeed-RS. Incidentally, I keep my HaiBike almost exclusively stored on my trailer-hitch when not in use; it has been inadvertently exposed to some rather harsh conditions, but its accessories, and ESPECIALLY the Bosch motor and the RS have been working like champs. Bosch did a great job in designing a rugged package that protects the delicate innards. The only problems I've experienced are two popped chains, and chain-skipping at higher gears. The skipping seems to disappear after the chains become broken-in though. I can only imagine that the load I'm applying is beyond the expected limits of the design. I weigh about 270#, and the skipping occurs on the top two gears under load in Touring-mode and above. I'll let you all know if it still happens after I loose 20#!

-Fitz

Adrian Willett
2 weeks ago

Great review. You really covered everything(the important stuff). After seeing some of the interviews with Heiko Muller, I understand the rationale for the cost of the bikes and their (R&M) approach to pricing. These are super nice machines and I would definitely purchase one of these in the near future. Keep up the awesome reviews!!

James Doolan
3 weeks ago

Cool really enjoyed the review

Rolando Alvarado
2 months ago

Great reviews Court! You are very thorough. This is definitely a paradigm shift type of product. I could see one using it as a car substitute, a bike for commuting, shopping and bike touring. Are you aware of anybody who is using a Load for bike touring who has a blog?

ratoneJR
2 months ago

nice bike

Graham Abbott
3 months ago

Hi. I'm enjoying your videos - thanks!
One obvious thing with this one is the relaxed seat tube angle. Do you know the bb height? I think most modern bikes have way too high bottom brackets - the default has become mountain bike height rather than our old school road/touring bike 10". A low bb with a relaxed seat tube would allow you to put a foot down without coming off the saddle - very useful with a loaded bike and any bike in town; the only downside is the need to lift an inside pedal on tight turns which takes no time to learn.
I'm new to e bikes and R&M is clearly the leader for me.
All the best.

Peter Epstein
3 months ago

I think the reason for using a smaller diameter front brake rotor is the inherent leverage advantage it has from the smaller front wheel.

THOMAS ANDRESON
4 months ago

PRICE IN USA?

hdidane00
5 months ago

It's made in Germany no wonder why it's top notch but also pricey. amazing how fast it shifts smooth.

carl marcelin
7 months ago

nice bike for sure! probably the best bike for a big city musician like me. however, after traveling to frankfurt to but the original birdy, i would never ever pay 6500 dollars for this!...........fucking crazy price! especially since the frame is made in tiwan! in fact i will fish around to find where i can get the frame directly from asia!....... good review by the way!

carl marcelin
6 months ago

+Propel Electric Bikes will do!.....

Propel Electric Bikes
6 months ago

Come take it for a ride if you're ever in NYC :)

carl marcelin
6 months ago

+Propel Electric Bikes​ thanks, for your reply!
I am a bike guy from birth! Having had cannondales, riese and Muller, and a dahon Jetstream but, I have one bike now, a (yuba Mundo) since moving back to Paris.
I always do lots of research before narrowing down a ride and this thing is impressive for sure but, I am still not convinced.....great video, if I haven't already mentioned!

Propel Electric Bikes
6 months ago

The price is definitely not in everyone's budget, but if you live in a place where this can replace your car and you want something that can handle speed with ease it's a good way to go. There is little else that can compare in the market today. I ride this bike almost daily and I definitely see the value in it.

Regarding the frames, keep in mind that Taiwan currently produces some of the highest quality frames in the world currently. If the frame was made in Germany the cost would be even higher. From my perspective it's really more about controlling the quality of the product than just having a stamp Made in X. If you end up finding anything remotely similar in Asia I can guarantee the quality won't be anywhere near what this bike is. It's great that you're thinking of using a bike for getting around though. I definitely support that :) - Chris

Drock rock
7 months ago

That bike is Bomb! great review!

Drock rock
7 months ago

I priced one out with 2nd battery and lock with all the items in your review except the child seats but with the cargo cover and its around 10800.00 Canadian lol!

ElectricBikeReview.com
7 months ago

Right on! For me it's like the Subaru Outback or Audi Quatro station wagon of electric bikes... cool and useful

marketman100
7 months ago

Chris carrying Rad powerbikes now 😎

ElectricBikeReview.com
7 months ago

Yeah, I think it's the new Yuba Spicy Curry https://electricbikereview.com/yuba/spicy-curry-bosch/

marketman100
7 months ago

oh maybe it's spicy curry

Jenny J
7 months ago

Cam you have two adults in this bike?

ElectricBikeReview.com
7 months ago

I think so, sorry we didn't show that... Chris carried me around in the front bucket at one point but I wasn't filming. Keep in mind I only weigh ~135 lbs, the max load in there is 220 lbs with an additional 264 lbs for the rider. More details in the specs here https://electricbikereview.com/riese-muller/load-touring-hs/

mattyj342111
7 months ago

can you please review the tinker e bike please

ElectricBikeReview.com
7 months ago

Oh yeah! Can do, I will make that the next R&M ebike that gets posted :)

GiantEnemyCrab
7 months ago

Manhattan Bridge? :)

ElectricBikeReview.com
7 months ago

I haven't filmed at the Manhattan Bridge recently, might get some shots next time! I think I was on the Williamsburg Bridge for this bike: https://electricbikereview.com/corratec/lifebike/

phuck ewe
7 months ago

Whoa! I thought that van @ 31:14 was gonna pull out in front of you.
Whew! He was backing in.

ElectricBikeReview.com
7 months ago

Yeah, freaked me out too! I keep an eye out... but considering the speed, the traffic, my filming and narrating, it was a bit risky

Todd Wall
7 months ago

Ha ha! The Blue Bike (TM)! Thanks, guys!

Sam Binder
7 months ago

I tried to find the name of the bike shop, what is it?

ElectricBikeReview.com
7 months ago

Hi Sam, mattyj342111 is correct, this shop is called Propel Bikes (formerly Long Island Electric Bikes) and they are located in Brooklyn near the Navy Shipyard, here's their website: http://propelbikes.com/

mattyj342111
7 months ago

propel in ny they are great check them out

Utomo TegarDhika
7 months ago

I like cargobike but nothing in Indonesia

DSADO Reboot
2 months ago

Hy Utomo TegarDhika,
there are many shops in Indonesia that are selling cargo bikes and they building costum made cargo bikes. The custom shops I found in your are are building stuff you will never find in Europa and/or America. Just use your search engine and you will find what I have found after just 10 seconds.

Utomo TegarDhika
7 months ago

From usd to IDR

Utomo TegarDhika
7 months ago

So expensive in indonesia

ElectricBikeReview.com
7 months ago

That's a bummer, some shops will ship internationally if you ask and are willing to pay a bit extra