VoltBike Enduro Review

Voltbike Enduro Electric Bike Review
Voltbike Enduro
Voltbike Enduro Bafang Max Drive Mid Motor 350 Watts
Voltbike Enduro Sanyo Battery Pack 48 Volt 10 4
Voltbike Enduro Selle Royal Ergonomic Grips Bell Shifters
Voltbike Enduro Bafang Hmi Dpc10 Display Panel
Voltbike Enduro Sr Suntour Xct Coil Spring Suspension
Voltbike Enduro Selle Royal Freccia Saddle
Voltbike Enduro Adjustable Length Kickstand
Voltbike Enduro Exa Form Air Suspension Rear Swing Arm
Voltbike Enduro 8 Speed Shimano Acera Drivetrain
Voltbike Enduro Voltbike Enduro Vs Specialized Stumpjumper
Voltbike Enduro Shipping Bubble Wrap
Voltbike Enduro Styrofoam Box Great Packing
Voltbike Enduro 2 Amp 1 Lb Charger
Voltbike Enduro Electric Bike Review
Voltbike Enduro
Voltbike Enduro Bafang Max Drive Mid Motor 350 Watts
Voltbike Enduro Sanyo Battery Pack 48 Volt 10 4
Voltbike Enduro Selle Royal Ergonomic Grips Bell Shifters
Voltbike Enduro Bafang Hmi Dpc10 Display Panel
Voltbike Enduro Sr Suntour Xct Coil Spring Suspension
Voltbike Enduro Selle Royal Freccia Saddle
Voltbike Enduro Adjustable Length Kickstand
Voltbike Enduro Exa Form Air Suspension Rear Swing Arm
Voltbike Enduro 8 Speed Shimano Acera Drivetrain
Voltbike Enduro Voltbike Enduro Vs Specialized Stumpjumper
Voltbike Enduro Shipping Bubble Wrap
Voltbike Enduro Styrofoam Box Great Packing
Voltbike Enduro 2 Amp 1 Lb Charger

Summary

  • An affordable full suspension trail bike with quiet, but powerful, mid-drive motor and integrated downtube battery pack, full-sized USB charging port on battery, adjustable top speed
  • Integrated LED headlight, backlit LCD display panel, and standard reflectors for urban riding, high-pressure tires with low-profile knobs work well on pavement or packed Earth
  • Well-placed kickstand, quick release wheels offer easy transport and serviceability, excellent weight distribution, reasonable 55.7 lb curb weight, affordable shipping with one year warranty
  • Only available in one frame size and color scheme, the seat post is too short, the stem is a bit long, 160 mm mechanical disc brakes are good enough for light light trails but not fully mountain worthy in my opinion

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Introduction

Make:

VoltBike

Model:

Enduro

Price:

$1,799 ($70 Flat Rate Shipping)

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Urban, Trail

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1), Speed Pedalec (Class 3)
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Warranty:

1 Year Comprehensive

Availability:

United States, Canada

Model Year:

2017

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

55.7 lbs (25.26 kg)

Battery Weight:

7 lbs (3.17 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.6 lbs (3.9 kg)

Frame Material:

Aluminum

Frame Sizes:

19 in (48.26 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

19" Seat Tube, 23.5" Reach, 29" Stand Over Height, 74" Length

Frame Types:

High-Step

Frame Colors:

Matte Black with Yellow Accents

Frame Fork Details:

SR Suntour XCT Coil Spring Suspension, 100 mm Travel, Lockout and Preload Adjust, 100/9 mm Quick Release Skewer

Frame Rear Details:

EXA Form Air Suspension, 135/9 mm Quick Release Skewer

Gearing Details:

8 Speed 1x8 Shimano Acera, CS-HG31-8 Cassette, 11-32T

Shifter Details:

Shiman Triggers on Right

Cranks:

8Fun AC08-2 Alloy Crank Arms, 170 mm Length, 38T Chainring with Alloy Bash Guard

Pedals:

Wellgo M248DU Alloy Cage Style Platform

Headset:

1-1/8" Sealed Cartridge

Stem:

Promax Alloy, 90 mm Length, ~8° Rise

Handlebar:

Promax Alloy, Low-Rise, 27.5" Length

Brake Details:

Tektro Novela CS Mechanical Disc with 160 mm Rotors, 5 Star Levers with Motor Inhibitors and Rubberized Edge

Grips:

Selle Royal XH-G03, Ergonomic Rubber

Saddle:

Selle Royal Freccia

Seat Post:

Promax, Aluminum Alloy

Seat Post Length:

200 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

30.4 mm

Rims:

Samson Double Walled, 6061 T6 Alloy, 36 Hole

Spokes:

13 Gauge, Stainless Steel, Silver with Nipples

Tire Brand:

Kenda Small Block Eight, 27.5" x 2.1" (52-584) (650x52B)

Wheel Sizes:

27.5 in (69.85cm)

Tire Details:

30TPI Casing, Wire Bead, 40 to 65 PSI

Tube Details:

Schrader Valve

Accessories:

Integrated Spanninga Micro LED Headlight with Reflector, Flick Bell, Adjustable Length Kickstand, Free DOT Approved Helmet

Other:

Locking Removable Battery Pack with LED Charge Indicator, 5 Volt Full Sized USB Charging Port on Right Side of Battery, 1.1 lb 2 Amp Charger, KMC Rust Resistant Z Chain, Motor and Display Rated IP65 Against Water and Dust Ingress

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bafang, Max Drive

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

350 watts

Motor Torque:

80 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Sanyo UR18650ZY

Battery Voltage:

48 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

10.4 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

499.2 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

4 hours

Estimated Min Range:

25 miles (40 km)

Estimated Max Range:

60 miles (97 km)

Display Type:

Bafang HMI DPC10, Backlit LCD, Fixed, Grayscale

Readouts:

Battery Level (10 Bars), Speed, Trip Distance, Odometer, Max Speed, Avg. Speed, Assist Level (0-5)

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad (+, -, Lights, Power, i), Double Press i for Settings Menu (Trip Clearance, Units, Backlight Sensor, Backlight Brightness, Screen Auto Off Time, Maintenance Reminder, Password 0512, Wheel Diameter, Speed Limit)

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Measures Pedal Torque, Cadence and Wheel Speed)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

VoltBike is an online-only electric bike company based out of Burnaby Canada. They recently expanded to a shipping depot in Northern Washington to serve both markets more effectively, and to me, that’s a sign that the business is going well. I’ve reviewed a handful of their products over the years and the speed and quality of shipping have always impressed me. Not just because the bikes arrived in Texas, Colorado, and even Cabo San Lucas Mexico unscathed… but because they only charge a flat rate $70 for the US and $50 for Canada. Sometimes, it can feel like you’re getting a sweet deal on a product based on the sticker price and then you get hit with a bunch of additional fees during checkout… that’s not the case here. The Enduro expands on VoltBike’s off-road line of models which includes a fat tire ebike, a folding fat tire model, and a hardtail trail bike. It’s their first e-bike with full suspension and a mid-drive motor. This is a great combination because suspended wheels can move quicker and respond more effectively to bumpy terrain if they weigh less. They call this “unsprung weight” and it’s an important factor in the design of race cars. While the Enduro is more of a sporty looking product than a premium precision-build, it performed quite well during my off-road mountain test. I climbed, descended quickly over large rocks, hopped the bike off a few bumps, and did an on-road speed test. It’s only available in one frame size with matte-black paint for now, but the black motor, battery, and wires blend in nicely. For me, as a 5’9″ tall guy, the stem was a bit long and the seat post was too short. I adjusted the brake lever position on both sides, raised the seat post to its maximum recommended height, and slid the saddle forward to shorten reach before going out. Compared to many other order-by-mail electric bicycles, this one was easy to setup. The wheels are both attached and only the handlebar needs to be added using four bolts. VoltBike sends a small tool pouch but I only used two of the five Allen key hex wrenches, and one began to strip before everything was done. I switched to my higher-quality tools and used a bit of grease and chain lube to finish the job. The only thing you absolutely need to get this bike going is a Schrader compatible bicycle pump. It ships with lower-end Kenda Small Block Eight tires rated for 40 to 65 PSI, which is higher than most of the mountain tires I see. Higher pressure will reduce drag while sacrificing traction and smoothness. I filled them to 40 PSI because I’m not especially heavy at ~135 lbs and wanted the best traction possible for the mountain trail test. Other areas that seem a little less mountain oriented include the integrated headlight, kickstand, and ergonomic grips. I appreciate each of these features… they chose the parts well, but I think they’re most useful in an urban setting. Given the lack of bottle cage bosses, rear rack attachment, and even fender mounts, this is a bike that feels great riding around town but lacks utility. I’m trying to show the trade-offs you get with this product but honestly, it would be my first choice in the VoltBike lineup right now because I value comfort over utility, don’t mind wearing a small backpack to carry gear to work, and appreciate the efficiency and durability of the Bafang Max Drive motor vs. a hub motor.

Driving the bike is a 350 watt nominally rated mid-drive with peak torque output of 80 Newton-meters. The numbers put it in the same performance range as Bosch, Brose, Yamaha and Impulse which cost much more. It’s fairly compact, but not as good looking as the new Bosch tilted designs, and it’s one of the quietest offerings around. The areas it doesn’t stand out so much are zippiness and RPM output. Basically, you need to switch gears more actively while pedaling to accelerate quickly and ultimately reach higher top speeds. In these ways, it reminds me of the base level Yamaha mid-drive. For the price, it’s a big jump up from geared hub motors (used on all of the other VoltBikes at the time of this review) and it got me up 12% grades on a rocky dirt trail in Colorado without any issues. Of course, my speed hovered around 8 mph during these stretches… but that’s because I remained seated and focused on balance and handling vs. speed. Interestingly, the Volt Bike Enduro arrived with a maximum speed setting of 25 km/h which is roughly 15.5 mph. This is below the legal limit in the United States and Canada so I unlocked the display panel by pressing the i button twice quickly then used the password 0, 5, 1, 2 to raise the limit to 32 km/h. This made it a Class 1 trail-legal electric bike… but later on, I raised it further to 60 km/h (which it doesn’t actually hit) to get an effective speed of ~28 mph. Basically, this can be a Class 1 or Class 3 speed pedelec which makes it a contender for urban commuting if you ride on street bike lanes.

In order to climb with a 55.7 lb ebike like this, go fast, and go far, you need a good sized battery pack. The Enduro comes with a 48 volt 10.4 amp hour battery that uses Sanyo lithium-ion cells. Apparently, Panasonic purchased Sanyo in recent years and VoltBike stresses this in their marketing collateral. Panasonic is known as the top-level battery producer in the ebike space and commands a premium. I can’t say much about longevity because I only tested the bike for a few days… but Lithium-ion cells tend to hold up well over time and VoltBike offers a comprehensive one year warranty. For the price of the bike, this battery pack seems like a great deal and I love that they mounted it tighter than the older Yukon models which seemed to rattle a bit. The pack can be charged on or off the bike for convenience, I tend to remove the pack for safe storage in a cool dry location vs. leaving it on the bike at all times and it’s easy to lift because it has a little flip-out handle on the side. Plugging the pack in is easy, it uses the same port whether it’s on or off the frame and the charger is compact and very lightweight at just 1.1 lbs. My only complaint here is that the rubber cover that protects the female plug on the left side of the battery can be difficult to push in. For this reason, I regularly see people riding with the rubber cover left dangling off and this could lead to dust and water damage over time. On the opposite side, the top right corner of the pack, there’s a second rubber cover protecting a standard sized 5 Volt 2 Amp USB port. You could use this to charge a phone, music player, or additional lights but do be careful when pedaling… consider a right-angle adapter to reduce exposure to kicks and snags. Final thoughts on the battery after riding down the mountain at higher speed is that it still wobbles a bit (though the chain bounces a whole lot… so good thing it has a thick slap guard), the weight is positioned well and it wasn’t as flashy as some other packs that aren’t so integrated.

The display panel used to gauge performance and change electric assist handling is from Bafang and I believe it’s the DPC10 or some variation. I found a great resource for Bafang / 8Fun displays here and learned how to adjust settings and clear the trip meter. I like that the display feels solidly mounted but still swivels to reduce glare. It comes with one of the larger button pads with a key for lights and information as well as power, plus and minus. Compared to the Bosch button pad, this one isn’t as physically intuitive and might require a glance down. On two occasions, I pressed the information key and had it stick down because it sort of angled sideways. While it is easy to reach, fairly compact, and appears to be water resistant, it just feels a little bit cheaper and the wire running back to the display seemed short. It kept bumping into the bell and muting it. When it arrived, this cable was actually zip tied to the left brake lever motor inhibitor which allowed the bell to work perfectly, but as I adjusted the brake levers it became too tight. I’d rather have a comfortable hand position than a functional bell but maybe future versions will ship with a slightly longer cable and this won’t be an issue? One other cable seemed too short and that was a pretty important one… the shifter cable leading back to the eight-speed Shimano Acera derailleur. When I shifted to the lowest gear (the largest sprocket) the cable seemed very tight. I didn’t have a problem, but this is another area to be careful with and possibly adjust if there’s extra length up front. VoltBike has been very proactive and responsive based on my past reviews and while I believe all of their bikes are produced overseas, they seem to be doing well enough to make incremental improvements and provide feedback that isn’t just ignored by the factory. The truth is, you’re getting a lot of value here for $1,800 and a little bit of attention during assembly can go a long way. I highly recommend having a shop give it a full tuneup for ~$80 if you can. This will make it ride better and last longer because the wheels will be trued, the derailleur will shift properly and they may add grease to the pedals as I did, to reduce creaking.

I got a little off track there talking about assembly and maintenance so let’s jump back into the display. This thing has a light sensor, adjustable backlighting, a 10-bar battery infographic for precise feedback on range (though no range estimation feature). You can change the units from kilometers to miles by doing the double tap i-i trick mentioned earlier and this works without the password. I’m not sure if VoltBike intended this but the handlebar is a low-rise with enough bend to help protect the display in the event of a crash. And while it’s not removable, you can park the bike with your helmet covering the display as a way to decrease attention, reduce sun exposure, and protect from water without causing condensation. This ebike, as with most, should be highly water resistant… but don’t submerge it. Perhaps the biggest difference between the Enduro and other VoltBike models is the lack of a throttle. You have to pedal in order to get the motor going but it uses a combination cadence-torque sensor which is very responsive and fluid. You will definitely get increased range from a system like this and it’s permissible on more trails than throttle-operated products. I think instant-power can be harmful to some mid-drive systems and really stress the chain, sprockets, and derailleur if used improperly. This motor controller does not have a shift sensor and thus, you can grind the gears and cause mashing to occur if you shift hard. I tend to ease off when pedaling for a moment and then shift. When climbing, this means that I build up some speed and momentum before shifting and try to plan ahead. Worst case, it’s better to stop and push the bike than wreck the drivetrain. And by wreck, I mean break the chain or bend the teeth on the cassette sprockets. You get a lower-end eight-speed Shimano Acera with the Enduro that probably doesn’t belong on a true mountain bike. I found that the range was large enough to climb and top 20 mph comfortably but it’s just not as tight or durable as the Deore, SLX, and Deore XT Shadow Plus that I see on higher-end products. The chainring has a nice bash guard/guide metal plate that should reduce snags, impacts and chain drops. Some ebikes have a true guide with two metal plates but I didn’t experience a chain drop while riding so perhaps this is good enough.

I had a blast assembling, testing, and optimizing the VoltBike Enduro electric bike. It’s a product I wish had existed when I purchased my first ebike many years ago. Instead, I ended up with the Evelo Aries, a cool looking full suspension product that’s exciting on paper and in photos but actually has a flexy frame, very limited motor operation, a stiff non-adjustable rear suspension, and difficult battery position. It produced a lot of noise and weighed ten pounds more than the Enduro and the purchase felt like a total waste. I felt terrible at the time but appreciated how responsive and supportive the company was. That bike is a big part of why I created this website. Not everyone can afford or wants a high-end electric bicycle… but there are many trade-offs to consider at the mid and lower levels. While the VoltBike Endure may not be a perfect fit for trails or the city, it looks cool, improves comfort over hardtail models, performs quite well and blends in. Note that you may need a special pump to adjust the rear air suspension properly and that it doesn’t have markings to help you adjust it by weight… but I pumped it up to ~140 PSI and saw it perform adequately on the trail. Big thanks to VoltBike for partnering with me on this post. I did receive a service fee for the processing and editing work performed (as I do with many reviews these days) but did not get a free bike or receive a larger sum than I do from other brands. I made a longer video because I was truly interested in seeing how the bike would perform and perhaps because I wanted to help my former self. The guy who was commuting to work by bike in Austin, Texas and just wanted something a little more fun than a city style ebike :)

Pros:

  • The price is pretty incredible… despite some lower end components like the eight-speed Acera drivetrain (two steps up from the base Tourney) and mechanical 160 mm disc brakes vs.
    hydraulic, it handled the trail
  • Even though most electric mountain bikes don’t have integrated lights, I appreciate that this one does because I’d probably use it for a mix of urban and trail riding, the light is compact and didn’t rattle on the trail, it also shines from the sides a bit to increase your profile
  • Stiff solid frame with good weight distribution, the mid-drive motor and downtube integrated battery pack are positioned very well
  • Removable battery shaves 7 lbs off the weight of the bike, both wheels offer quick release for easy maintenance or compact transport and storage
  • The display is large, easy to read, swivels to reduce glare, and offers a lot of adjustment options like backlight brightness, auto off, and wheel size
  • This is one of the few electric bikes that allows you to adjust the top speed, mine arrived set to 25 km/h which is ~15.5 mph, if you press the i button two times quickly, it enters the menu where you can cycle through to password (use 0, 5, 1, 2) and then change the max speed to 32 km/h for 20 mph or up to 60 km/h for close to 28 mph top assisted speed (of course, you can also go slower than 25 km/h if you’d like)
  • Shipping was very inexpensive at $70 and the bike arrived in great shape, they put styrofoam on both sides of the box as well as the front and back, they also bubble wrap the frame and sensitive hardware like the light, display, and battery
  • For someone who wants a bit of comfort but only plans to ride in the city, the ergonomic grips, larger knobby tires, and basic suspension feels pretty great, it would perform better in snow and going over bumpy roads than a hardtail or city bike
  • The battery locks securely to the frame and felt tighter than some of the older VoltBike models (I’m told they have all been tightened so they won’t rattle), you can click the battery onto the frame without the key
  • It’s nice to have access to USB power to charge your phone, GPS, music player, or additional lights, consider grabbing a right angle USB adapter to keep your plugs out of the way

Cons:

  • The suspension isn’t especially smooth or long travel, you’ll probably need a special shock pump to adjust the pressure on the rear air suspension, I used this Izende mini-pump that works for Schrader and Presta valves, is light, small, and has a pressure gauge built in
  • Disc brakes are perfect for trail and mountain riding but 160 mm is kind of small and mechanical requires more hand strength than hydraulic, they also don’t have adjustable reach levers
  • The stem seems a little long, I felt like I was very stretched out horizontally and a bit squished vertically because of the short 200 mm seat post, consider replacing it with a 30.4 mm diameter 350 mm length post like this, you can always use a hack saw to shorten it if needed but make sure to have enough post in the tube to provide strength
  • There was nowhere to mount a rear rack or bottle cage bosses but that’s not abnormal for low and mid-level full suspension ebikes due to battery placement, you may be able to add fenders… if you need a rack, consider a beam rack like this or the Thule Pack ‘n Pedal
  • The tools they give you are pretty weak, I ended up using my own allen key set and nearly stripped one of the brake lever bolts trying to tighten it with the incorrect size (they didn’t include the exact size 3/16 for this part), on a sidenote, consider using some Polylube 1000 grease for mounting the pedals (just a little stripe on the threads)
  • Very minor gripe, but the display panel connection uses a press fit vs. threaded connector with a rubber washer, these aren’t as reliable or water resistant but apparently the battery, motor and display are all IP65 rated against dust and water which is cool
  • The rear air suspension doesn’t have any labeling for recommended PSI and there aren’t marks on the stanchion to sag it properly… it’s pretty basic

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Geffin
10 months ago

Hey!

I know they are completely different beasts, but would you say the Voltbike Yukon had better build quality than the Voltbike Enduro? Your review of that one was a bit more favorable. I’d like to get one of them this year as it’s within my price range.

Thanks

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Court Rye
10 months ago

Hi Geffin, I’d say they are very similar. I just didn’t go as in depth with the Yukon… had less time and wasn’t as knowledgeable about mountain bike components until recently. Both models offer good value and should hold up if you take care, perhaps the biggest letdown on the Enduro for me was the seat post length and that’s a ~$10 fix :)

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scott
9 months ago

Is this only a pedalac model or does it allow the ability to just use throttle only and no pedalling ?

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Court Rye
9 months ago

Hi Scott, I asked the founder of VoltBike this same question and he explained that the mid-motor they chose isn’t setup for throttles and they couldn’t add it. That may be a bummer for some people but you could still get their hub motor hardtail Yukon 750 which does have a throttle if you want :)

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Fredrick Edelkamp
8 months ago

Court, Love the HUD (Heads Up Display) on the video review! First time I’ve seen it on your videos (and I watched a lot of them) how did you do it?

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Court Rye
8 months ago

Hi Frederick! I use a Garmin Edge 1000 device and then export the data file to overlay on video using the Garmin VIRB Edit software… then I take that overlayed footage and import it into iMovie before doing the rest of my normal video editing :D

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Eric Larson
7 months ago

Hi Court,

Thanks for the fantastic reviews and video’s, what a wealth of information! I am trying to decide between the RAD City E-Bike and the Volt Enduro. I will be using the bike to ride trails and street’s in Seattle. Both companies are a stones throw away so I am torn down the middle on what to go with. What are the pro’s and Con’s to having a throttle? Thanks, -E

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Court Rye
7 months ago

Hi Eric! I’d go with the Enduro myself because I love suspension and have a sensitive back and neck… I don’t miss the throttle that much because I like pedaling and have found that the Bafang Max Drive is very fluid and responsive. It’s one of my favorite ebike systems right now actually. Rad Power Bikes is awesome and the City model is great but unless you need the rack for carrying cargo, the Enduro is just more fun and comfortable :) but in Seattle you might get more wet without fenders :P

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B Henry
3 months ago

Cort,

In the end, did you find the brakes adequate? or do you recommend changing them?

Thanks!

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Court Rye
3 months ago

Hi Henry! I was alright with the brakes for urban and light trail riding but much prefer hydraulic… and the expense of converting would make me consider upgrading to a better e-mountain bike all together. I like the Enduro, but they really had to make some trade-offs to get it to such a low price.

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Christopher Cramer
2 months ago

The two bikes I have narrowed down to are the Enduro and the surface 604 Rook. At this time I can get either for the same price and I’m comparing the two in terms of performance in the city, full suspension bikes are usually heavier than hard tails but according to the specs both these bikes are almost the same total weight. Adding the back suspension does that really decreases the efficiency in acceleration even if you lock it? I have done lots of research on each on the pros and cons and each are almost equally rated. From what you have written about how full suspension can pay off in urban riding, as well as the adjustable top speed, and the price it is at right now I keep holding on to the Enduro, but the facts about efficiency between hard tails and fs bikes mainly in the city over gravel, snow, pavement, and light trails, makes me hesitant to go for the Enduro over the Rook.

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Court Rye
2 months ago

Hi Christopher! Great thoughts here, I’ll try to help. I believe that the reason these two ebikes weigh about the same is that yes, the rear swing arm and suspension element add weight to the Enduro, but the Surface 604 Rook has fenders, a rear rack, and lights. The Enduro uses a very basic rear suspension that does not provide much adjustability or lockout and there will be a minor loss of efficiency through bobbing because of this, and the knobby tires. I do strive for comfort when riding electric bikes because I tend to go further and at higher average speeds… but I love having a rack, fenders, and lights too. These accessories can be difficult to add onto many mountain bikes (especially full suspension) and that can mean you have to wear a backpack. For me, the decision between these two bikes would come down to how you plan to use them. If you have cargo and want to stay dry and visible at night, maybe the Rook is best, you can add a cheap seat post suspension like this to smooth out the ride and still maintain efficiency. Otherwise, maybe the Enduro is a better choice if you plan to go off-road a bit more and like the mountain style with grippier tires.

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Christopher
1 month ago

I did some research on short travel xc/trail bikes, and I read that full suspension bikes may still be just as efficient as a hard tail when riding xc. Since the enduro only has 80 mm of travel on the rear suspension, I am thinking it would perform well as a xc bike rather than an enduro. I don’t plan on riding any highly technical trails yet, but I also don’t see myself riding the bike only as a means of transportation. I am excited to begin mountain biking as a beginner, exploring some creative routes/trails around the city rather than just staying on the road. The rook is classified more as a cruiser, how well would it really handle some off road riding compared to the enduro handling on road riding?

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Court Rye
1 month ago

Hi Christopher! I love your approach, this ebike would be great for starting out and is well suited to light trail and cross country… it’s not a true enduro or all mountain model AT ALL even though that’s what they chose as the name. The rear suspension is extremely cheap and limited. It’s barely worth the added weight and frame complexity in terms of what is offered. Perhaps it could be replaced, but for that sort of money and effort I’d just upgrade to a cheap Haibike or used full suspension model with Bosch, Yamaha, Shimano, Brose or Bafang. Check out Lectric Cycles (they do conversions) for some affordable full suspension models with much tougher hardware. I personally love the Rook and Colt from Surface 604 because they have racks, fenders, lights etc. and they would be fine on hard packed trails if you are just careful… maybe add a seat post suspension for more comfort. You could always swap knobbier tires onto one of those bikes too if you wanted better traction, the fenders would probably always rattle a bit but you could take them off too. I hope this helps as you narrow down :)

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Christopher
1 month ago

Thanks for the advice, I decided to go with a hard tail bike. I upgraded to the haibike sduro hardnine 4, because I found it on sale for the same total price as I would get the enduro. Could I add fenders and a rack to the hardnine 4 if I threaded some holes in the back?

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Court Rye
1 month ago

Great choice Christopher! That’s a solid ebike for the money in my opinion… Mikey reviewed it a while back and I was impressed with the performance and aesthetics. Unfortunately, it doesn’t come with rack bosses because Haibike uses a lower seat stay design and the 29″ tires would require extra-long rack supports and connectors at the front. I would definitely urge you to NOT try to create any holes in the frame because that could damage the structural integrity and cause a failure where you could crash and get injured. Instead, try using a clamp-on beam rack such as this one from Topeak, and look for the A-Type which clamps and then raises up to provide clearance for tall wheels (so you can keep your seat low but still have a higher rack). It’s not going to be as sturdy, able to support as much weight, or as fixed in position (many times beam racks can get bumped side to side) but if you’re riding on light trails or around town, it could be just fine for taking gear off of a backpack and putting it onto the bike. My Uncle used this exact sort of setup on his full suspension Haibike which we talk about in this video, but we didn’t have the rack on the bike. I hope this helps you out! Have fun out there and ride safe :D

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Denis Shelston
24 hours ago

Looks to me like the new 2018 Voltbike is the one to get. The new updates makes it the better choice/value and Voltbike provides good support. I have a Téo, I love it, but have been very disappointed with after sales support, they have no clue of what is great support.

ZeroPointM
1 day ago

@oltbike I would be intrested in knowing if any major changes or more of a refresh for the new year?

Something I noticed is the frame layout has changed, from the 2017 version. (Cant wait to get mine, window shopping)

I see the controller has moved from in the frame drop tube to being external, much easier to replace and repair which is nice. But also its now more open to weather and the elements of biking.

The battery is mounted lower and gives more room for removing/ accessing it. Looks like the area to used to mount a bottle cage was moved up, not a big deal unless you have a tall bottle or pump.

ZeroPointM
1 day ago

@ce20ri Looking in to ordering a Yukon in the next few weeks are you part of the VoltBike Ambassador program? Reading some of your posts on it helped me decide one the Yukon, aside from its great price and being shipped from my backyard.

PCDoctorUSA
2 days ago

My big concern is the ascent back up. I've reached out to a lot of people here who have had offered some great feedback both in these forums and private conversations in hopes of coming up with a consensus of the best direction to go in regards to type of drive: geared rear hub or mid-drive. I don't know anyone locally who owns any type of electric bike, and I only spot an electric bike in my daily commute once in a blue moon so these forums are my only source for info. I have yet to find a LBS that is both knowledgeable and passionate about selling ebikes that could help me. The big brand dealers (Specialized and Trek) only have a few models to make the Brand happy while they concentrate on selling non-ebikes. The owner of one ebike-only shop couldn't even tell me the correct model names of the bikes he had to sell or even figure out their displays to show me the Assist levels. I actually knew more than he did thanks to EBR forum members and Cort's reviews.

For those that have looked at the https://www.dropbox.com/s/ym61mubq23mjhg5/Commute%20Elevation.jpg?dl=0, most have said the geared rear hub on the Yukon 750 will make the once daily climb without issue. I've had one reader in another EBR forum that says a geared rear hub won't make it, but a Bafang BBS02 mid-drive will. My goal this weekend is to visit a shop that rents ebikes to the tourists and see if they have a geared hub model so I can see how it does on my hill. I'm really hoping the geared rear hub will do the job because there are no mid-drive options in the Yukon's price range even with adding in the cost of changing out the tires to something more street commuter friendly once the Yukon arrives. Voltbike's shipping charge of $120 to Hawaii is also the cheapest of ANY online dealer I've found yet. If a dealer ships to Hawaii at all, the price is between $300 and $500.

Thanks in advance to anyone else that would like to chime in.

surfstar
3 days ago

Heck, if I thought I'd do any trail / offroad riding, I'd seriously consider the 2018 Voltbike Yukon!

Ann M.
7 days ago

Actually, lot's of them, @rich c ;). BionX, Ohm, Voltbike, Emmo, Daymak just to mention a few.

@JohnCO, from what I can find; Court hasn't done a review of the current Velec ebikes; however, there is some info at https://electricbikereport.com/tag/velec-electric-bikes/ from Sept. 2017 that includes the Velec products. It appears that Velec became a distributor for the Hero Eco ebikes, the A2B and intro level Fast4Ward bikes for Canada in 2012. Since A2B ceased business in the US a year or two ago, I don't know if Velec is still selling them in Canada.

surfstar
7 days ago

Juiced CrossCurrent S and Voltbike Yukon Limited are also contenders for my price range, but I think I was going with the RadCity for the lower price over those. Now the Haibike is throwing off my decision!

Ashley64
2 weeks ago

I've pumped mine to 20 psi but not had a chance to ride yet. Anything below this seems far too low for road use.

vincent
2 weeks ago

what about a radmini or voltbike mariner and just put smaller tires on it or that sondors fold bike and put smaller tires on it a lot of the rover guys put smaller thinner tires on their bikes for commuting, but maybe the 26 inch tire is easier to find in thinner tires, not sure

Ian in Alberta
3 weeks ago

Interesting that you should raise the issue of tire pressure, Ashley64. I was chatting with one of the lads in a local bikeshop (Lethbridge AB) about finding a longer seat post with a built in shock absorber, as I had to swap the one that came with the bike for a longer (but non-absorbing) one. He asked what pressure I was running in the tires. "24 psi", I replied, and he raised his eyebrows. Typically, fat tires run at 5-6 psi, he told me...better for both comfort and traction. I was a bit surprised, so I did a little research, and it seems that fat tire bikes ride and race at around 5 psi, but are most efficient on pavement at 23-25 psi. I suggest a little online research to determine what might be best for your conditions. I've dropped my tire pressure to about 12 psi to see what happens. Perhaps @oltbike will weigh in on this. I'll look forward to hearing of your experiences.

PCDoctorUSA
3 weeks ago

I've enjoyed reading this thread as I hope to make my first ebike purchase in the coming months. My opinion is that ebike manufacturers should require a LBS wanting to be a dealer of their bikes to perform warranty service on their bikes regardless of where it was purchased. Now, I'm assuming that the manufacturer has an agreed reimbursement schedule with their dealers. If there is no schedule or written reimbursement terms then as a LBS I wouldn't sell the bike. I think the manufacturer also has a responsibility to refrain from selling their bikes direct to the public at less than MSRP, or at all, to protect their dealers. A manufacturer should also not make their bikes available to online dealers or big box stores for less than the LBS can buy them for. If I'm a LBS dealer for your brand, and you make the same bikes I'm selling available to Here-Today-Gone-Tomorrow-Bikes.com for less than what you're selling them to me for, I can guarantee you I'm going to drop your brand. Now, if the online dealer or another LBS dealer wants to discount the retail price to their customers that's their business. For the record, I'm very pro-LBS but there's a limit to my loyalty. The ebike dealers here on O'ahu that sell known ebike brands have starting prices of $2500 for something comparable to a Juiced CrossCurrent. The local Trek and Specialized dealers have their budget ebike offerings starting at $3k. There's one shop that sells some unbranded stuff under $2k, but I wouldn't touch it. To some, those prices may seem fine, but when the budget for your first ebike is max'd out at $2k, those prices are prohibitive. When you question why their price is HUNDREDS more than a LBS on the Mainland, they'll all say, "Well, we have to ship it here." Something tells me there were a lot of other goods on the container ship from CA than the half-dozen ebikes on your showroom floor. Yes, I can order an ebike online for A LOT cheaper than something comparable from any of the O'ahu LBSs until I get to that "Calculate Shipping" portion of the web form. It's either, "Shipping is not available to your area" or I get slapped with an outrageous shipping charge like Rad Power Bikes who wants $450 to ship a Rad Rover. Fortunately, there are a few vendors who don't view Hawaii as Antarctica and their shipping charges are much more reasonable. E-Glide Electric Bikes charges $175 and Voltbikes charges an additional $70 on top of their normal flat shipping rate. I think Juiced was $190, but don't quote me on that. Now, I've found a few offerings that inclusive of shipping stay below my $2k budget, but what if need service whether under warranty or not. Both E-Glide and Voltbike state in their warranty if they can't fix it by sending you a replacement part or talking you through it over the phone then they'll work with a LBS in your area to get it resolved. From E-Glidebike, "It rarely happens, but sometimes issues can arise during shipping. If any parts happen to be damaged during shipping, E-Glide will send a replacement part at our expense and will work with you or the bike shop of your choice to fix the issue. If the issue cannot be fixed, E-Glide will exchange the bicycle. For warranty issues, E-Glide will cover the cost of labor involved handling the warranty service within a 30-day period after delivery. We will work with, and pay directly, your local bike shop of choice. After the 30-day free repair labor period, the owner will be responsible for labor costs associated with warranty replacements." The question then becomes, can I find a LBS willing to work with E-Glide in such warranty matters, and is there a LBS that will work on ebikes they didn't sell for non-warranty issues? That's what I'm working on finding out right now. Regardless of what I discover, I think for me the choice is to go with a company who has a track record of making a valid effort at satisfying their customers post-sale. I may not find a LBS willing to work on an ebike they don't sell, but if the company that sold me the bike will send me the part and a link to a YouTube video that will walk me through the process of replacing it than I should be good to go. Personally and professionally, I think any LBS that turns away a customer because of the "you didn't buy it from me" attitude loses a potential future customer. Just my 2-cents.

bob armani
3 weeks ago

Wow Joe EE-This looks awesome. Nice setup from top to bottom. Thanks for sharing. What kind of camera is that- kinda looks like a Logitech webcam?? That is a well equipped Voltbike! Looks like your customizing can give some ebike dealers some good tips on how to do customer setup at POS. Have fun with that new rig this summer!

Alphbetadog
23 hours ago

I have a Bulls FS Enduro with the Brose motor for a little over a year and have never broke the chain and am just about to replace it as it is just out of spec. I ride this bike A LOT on rugged mountainous trails. Also have a Haibike for over 2 years and have only broke a non-ebike chain.

I always carry pins & a link, along with patches, replacement tube, inflator, etc, and have never had to use them for myself but have bailed out many others on the trail that where unprepared. It's been sort of like a reverse "Murphy's Law".

Alphbetadog
23 hours ago

I have a Bulls FS Enduro with the Brose motor for a little over a year and have never broke the chain and am just about to replace it as it is just out of spec. I ride this bike A LOT on rugged mountainous trails. Also have a Haibike for over 2 years and have only broke a non-ebike chain.

I always carry pins & a link, along with patches, replacement tube, inflator, etc, and have never had to use them for myself but have bailed out many others on the trail that where unprepared. It's been sort of like a reverse "Murphy's Law".

Dmitri
2 weeks ago

Interesting! But it looks like a custom right dropout, very different to the dropouts on derailleur-equipped bikes such as Delite 25.

I personally have not experienced the issues with chain tension that the posters over there mention. I think that only HNF Heisenberg "Fully" has solved the issue of constant Rohloff tension on a rear suspension, but theirs is an enduro bike and nothing like the Delite.

My ideas regarding custom dropouts (which are trivial to manufacture) revolved around other issues, namely the desire to move the wheel back from that 'problem spot' in my video as well as the desire to install a secondary disc brake mount on the left dropout.

zap016VOLTAGE
1 month ago

East Coast Electric Bikes

From https://evnerds.com/electric-vehicles/electric-bike/powerfull-east-coast-electric-bikes-display/ "East Coast Electric Bikes is a shop dedicated to providing electric enduros services at competitive rates. East Coast crew serves the people of Mt Holly, NJ with commitment and pride. They also have a repair shop for Electric Enduro bikes, and they make custom ebike orders. They pride themselves with unique one-off builds and their level of customization for each built e-bike"

http://eceb-nj.com

Assaad Daoud
1 month ago

So, if i understand you correctly, you suspect the hub motor was the culprit? and the controller-TFT display worked great with a different less powerful one?

aussiec6
1 month ago

Assaad - its a sorry tale. He has been through 1 x 5000w rear wheel (lasted 1 day and has all the problems of a hall sensor failure), 2 controllers (one burnt out a couple of components inside), and 1 x TFT display that fried itself. We paid for the 5000w wheel, for 1 controller, and the original TFT display. We have had replacements sent out for another TFT display and 1 controller. He now has a 1500 w hub wheel - not from Leili - hooked up to their controller and TFT display and it works fine. The 5000we hub is gathering dust as the rep from Leili has gone very quiet. Having said all of this I have to say once again that my Leili enduro bike was bought as a complete kit and has performed excellently, and its done about 1400klms so far.

Assaad Daoud
1 month ago

HI Aussie, i have so many problems with my kit & i've only ridden it 20 Km!! i would like to know what happened evcentually with your mate's bike DIY? did he give up on Leili's TFT & controller & bought a different controller? or did the replacement Leili sent work out eventually?

Mike Burns
1 month ago

I would consider the Voltbike Elegant. Snappy acceleration for a factory bike. Good on hills and running the battery to empty took exactly 35 miles mostly in top gear on pedal-assist level 7 in very hilly terrain including about 2 miles rolling terrain with throttle only and a few 0-20 full-throttle runs. I usually budged for about 28-30 miles and consider anything more a gift. Look at the hill profiles in the Henryville, Mt. Pocono, Tannersville, Stroudsburg, PA area for where I tested it. Reasonably light, especially for the price point and has good brakes. Good balance between stability and maneuverability. Getting 40 miles without pedaling will at least double the cost and add weight. Take your charger to work with you or get a spare for work. Pedals well if you do empty the battery. If you swapped the tires for a smooth tread such as the Maxxis Hookworm, you can significantly increase your distance and ease of pedaling. I am using them on a 6000-watt full-suspension enduro bike conversion. Great traction on anything but snow, mud, sand, and deep loose gravel and a 20-percent increase in range on that bike.

bfly
2 months ago

I'm happy with my Cube Stereo 160 Hybrid. It is based on the Stereo 160 bike that they race in the World Enduro Series.

Christopher Cramer
2 months ago

Thanks for all your responses, I think I will stick with the enduro. I don't mind using a back pack to carry things, and if the full suspension actually pays off as a benefit when riding in the city, then it may actually be quite suitable for urban riding along with the adjustable top speed. I may be spending more than I need to on my first ebike but at this time I am also saving quite a bit, as the price will go up from the original price with in a week.

bob armani
2 months ago

Sounds like you were/are really a hardcore cyclist on every level. We were only weekend warriors buying bikes from the Tradin Times and doing minor rebuilds just so we could beat on something. BTW-That is a real beauty in your BMW pic. Thanks for sharing...

drcollie
2 months ago

Yes! I was pretty active in the St Louis MO region. Used to race Husqvarna's, '68 360 8-speed, '70 400 Cross (Remember the movie On Any Sunday?), then a '73 250 CR. While those were my race bikes, I was a Mechanic at Surdyke Yamaha and had a TY250 to play around with Trials riding. Also had the whole AT/DT/RT Yamaha Enduro series from back in the day. I still ride off road on bikes, but not gnarly stuff, current ride is a BMW R1200GS for off-pavement stuff, and its too heavy for single track, mostly fireroad stuff, dirt roads, etc.

Throttlesnap
1 month ago

ElectricBikeReview.com Would this bike be suitable for a 30 kilometer ride to work everyday ?

Marlinspike Mate
2 months ago

Are mid drives necessary for climbing?

Elmundo
2 months ago

not cheap at all 1700 dollars?!

Christopher Moltisanti
2 months ago

This has to be the ugliest bike I've ever seen. And I'm a Voltbike fanboy. Huge Voltbike fail IMO. I'd take the Yukon 750 over this all day, and the Yukon is way cheaper. I've had my Yukon 500(older model) for over 2 years now. Rock solid tank of a bike. Even overclocked to 30mph for the past year I still get close to full battery capacity. I wish there was an excuse or problem to push me toward a 750. But the 500 keeps going strong. That enduro's got to go. Voltbike should come out with a skateboard or push scooter, something I'd want at that crazy low Voltbike price

Christopher Moltisanti
2 months ago

Messed with the wheel diameter setting in the computer's advanced mode. You can google it,pretty easy but it voids the warranty, I really like the juiced, but I really like riding on sand, snow, and rip through trails which the juiced won't do. Just depends on your geographical situation. Also with the juiced the throttle cuts off at 20mph, and you pedal up to 28mph. with the overclocked yukon the throttle alone goes to 30mph,

Marlinspike Mate
2 months ago

how did you overclock your bike? Don't know weather to get the Yukon 750 or Juiced CrossCurrent S. Think the Juiced has a higher top speed even with a 650 motor.

Ian Mangham
2 months ago

Nice pump

De Cnijf Kris
3 months ago

looks good.Selles royal makes the best seats even leather for sportsbikes.worth its price.

Aaron Allevato
4 months ago

11:23 what's the name of the that cheaper full suspension bike?

Kemo Bow
4 months ago

Please do the same ride on your Levo. would be a great comparison.

guitartec
4 months ago

Do mid-drive motors also have a throttle, and if so, can you drive throttle only?

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

Most of the mainstream mid-drive motors (like Bosch, Yamaha, Shimano, and Brose) do not, but you can get the Bafang BBS02 kit or some bikes with the Bafang Max Drive that do have throttle. Here's an example with a custom integrated BBS02 https://electricbikereview.com/evelo/delta/ just note that they some people have reported premature wear and motor failure (as well as drivetrain strain) so you'd want to be careful in how you rode

Gregory Alston
5 months ago

About how much does the bike weigh?

Lazaro Monteagudo
5 months ago

Good bike 90 percent I will buy it next spring or early. . I live in a cold weather.

VoltBike
2 months ago

Nice. Looking forward to prepare your bike Lazaro.

fookdatchit
5 months ago

this channel rocks! fanx v moooooch

Aayush Parmar
6 months ago

Lol I can ride a cycle this much at once

FastFriday'sFacts
7 months ago

What Happens when your battery goes out when you are riding with a mid drive motor?Do you have resistance like a direct drive motor or no resistance like a geared motor so you can ride home like a regular bike?

woggs1
7 months ago

Only 350 Watts? What is the point? Grandma can ride it to church, that's about it. Forget about going up rough hills.

VoltBike
2 months ago

Bafang MaxDrive motor provides 80 N.m. torque which is equivalent to 750w rear hub motor. Mid-drive motors are more efficient.

Don Mega
8 months ago

short riders could always saw the seatpost for an easy fix. they didn't think this through.

Stu Wright
8 months ago

good job showing the info while riding! seeing those fat bike vids makes me want one :-p

valveman12
8 months ago

I was going to buy this one but decided to get the Voltbike Yukon Limited as my first Ebike.
Looking forward to the peddle assist since I do have some knee problems that rears their ugly head on hills.
My decision to get the Yukon had a lot to do with your reviews and a few others I saw so thanks.

Arnold Winters
9 months ago

Hey Court, your review of the Voltbike Enduro was great and encouraged me to buy one. Thanks. I am in the process of editing a video I made of the unboxing and setup. If you are ever in the Atlanta area, I would like to do a video with you on the Silver Comet Trail.

I received this Voltbike last Thursday and I love it, but unfortunately they did not include the ergonomic grips.

They included straight cylindrical grips. To their credit I wrote to George at Voltbike Support and he is sending me the ergonomic grips. I wonder how to install them myself. I imagine they will include instructions for removing the other ones and installing the ergo's.

I changed out the seat post to 200mm and it is fine.

Also I tried to sag the rear suspension and with the Izende hand pump filled it to 130 psi however, I don't feel it compress when I sit on the bike. Am I doing something wrong? Perhaps I need to ride over a curb, or release some air,

I like the motorcycle helmet which was included. I chose white for safety.

Arnold Winters
9 months ago

Court, what GoPro helmet holder do you use? I see it was chin high. Also how do you get the overlay on the video of the elevation, temperature, speed, etc.?