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Summary

  • An electric assist box bike with 350 lb carrying capacity (200 lbs in the front basket), plenty of room for cargo or child bench seat with safety belts
  • Powerful 500 watt geared hub motor in the front benefits from smaller sturdy wheels (20" front and rear for easier maintenance)
  • Electric assist only, no throttle mode here, one frame size ~18" with a mid-step design and extra long seat post to fit a range of riders
  • Newer company working with charitable organizations, designed and built locally in Santa Cruz California, year long warranty

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Introduction

Make:

Box Bike Collective

Model:

Standard Box Bike

Price:

$3,900

Body Position:

Upright

Suggested Use:

Neighborhood, Cargo

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

1 Year Comprehensive

Availability:

United States, Worldwide

Model Year:

20152016

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

96 lbs (43.54 kg)

Battery Weight:

10 lbs (4.53 kg)

Motor Weight:

12 lbs (5.44 kg)

Frame Material:

Chromoly Steel

Frame Sizes:

18 in (45.72 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

92" Length, 23" Width, 24" Standover Height, 18" Seat Tube Length, 21.5" Seat Tube to Head Tube Reach

Frame Types:

Cargo, Mid-Step

Frame Colors:

Teal Blue

Frame Fork Details:

Rigid Steel, Heavy Duty for Motor Weight

Attachment Points:

Rear Rack Bosses

Gearing Details:

9 Speed 1x9 Shimano Sora

Shifter Details:

Shimano Alivio Triggers on Right

Cranks:

170 mm Forged Aluminum, 48T Chainring

Pedals:

VP Plastic Platform, Clear Blue

Headset:

FSA 1 1/8" Threadless

Stem:

Dimension, 60 mm Long, 5° Angle

Handlebar:

Dimension, Arc

Brake Details:

Tektro Dorado Hydraulic Disc with 203 mm Front Rotor and 180 mm Rear Rotor (Extra Thick), Tektro Levers with Motor Inhibitor Switch

Grips:

Ergon GP1 with Lockers

Saddle:

Cloud-9, Comfort

Seat Post:

Aluminum Alloy

Seat Post Length:

400 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

26.2 mm

Rims:

36 Spoke, Alex DM24 Rear

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 13G Front, 14G Rear

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Big Apple, 20" x 2.15"

Wheel Sizes:

20 in (50.8cm)

Tire Details:

GreenGuard Puncture Protection

Tube Details:

Schrader Valve

Accessories:

Custom Cargo Basket with Side Pockets and Folding Child Seat (Expanded PVC and Cordura Fabric), Heavy Duty Integrated Sprung Oversized Kickstand

Other:

Locking Removable Battery Pack, 19 Amp Controller, 2 lb Portable Charger, Maximum Total Weight 350 lbs, Maximum Cargo Weight 200 lbs, 6 mph Walk Mode

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

8Fun

Motor Type:

Front-Mounted Geared Hub
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Motor Nominal Output:

500 watts

Motor Peak Output:

675 watts

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

8 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

288 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium Manganese Oxide

Charge Time:

3 hours

Estimated Min Range:

15 miles (24 km)

Estimated Max Range:

20 miles (32 km)

Display Type:

LED Console

Readouts:

Battery Level (1-4 Dots), Assist Level (Low, Med, High)

Display Accessories:

Walk Mode

Drive Mode:

Cadence Sensing Pedal Assist

Top Speed:

17 mph (27 kph) (Due to Smaller Wheel Diameter)

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Written Review

The Box Bike Collective is a community minded LLC based in Santa Cruz California designing electric cargo bikes. Their Standard Box Bike is the first model to be sold with free pickup or delivery in the Bay Area and so far the company has sold a hand full of these models and has launched a Kickstarter to build interest. The plan is to continue selling direct and growing organically regardless of the outcome there. I was impressed with the unique mid-step frame design, which can accommodate short or tall riders thanks to an extra long seat post with angled seat tube, and the comfortable saddle and grips.

The bike is decidedly utilitarian with a generic battery pack, basic display panel and limited five sensor pedelec disc (many new bikes have 12 sensors for faster response) but it gets the job done and these trade-offs help to keep the price down. For $3,900 you get the custom steel frame, reinforced fork, upgraded Schwalbe tires with puncture protection and reflective sidewalls, beautiful chrome plated fenders, the basket with child seat insert, upgraded ergonomic grips and a comfy saddle. You also get to feel good knowing that you’ve supported the creation of a hand-built frame, local powder coating and canvas work. The founder Alex and his wife Kelly use their bikes to deliver their two children to school each day and get to work. It’s pretty awesome to see and even though it may not be possible to do year round in every locale (especially if you live where it snows a lot) it can work at least some of the time.

The big hurdle with this and any box style bicycle is that the steering mechanism and front wheel are positioned way out front. It takes some getting used and definitely more balance to start out. The smaller 20″ wheels used on the Standard Box Bike keep weight low and stable and allow the 500 watt motor to operate efficiently. As the rider, you’re turing a 20″ rear wheel, benefitting from the same mechanical advantage, and the nine speed drivetrain is plenty for climbing or hitting 20+ mph even though the motor cuts out at ~17 due to the smaller diameter and built-in limiter. Because the saddle is oversized, the tires are extra wide at 2.15″ and the steel frame is forgiving and vibration dampening this ebike actually rides very comfortably but it is flexy. Especially when starting out I found that it jiggled and my turning motions weren’t immediately transmitted to the balance of the bike… this is what I mean about getting used to it. With a bit of speed (usually under pedal power only) the whole bike calms down and you’re off.

The Box Bike Collective is many things to many people but the bike itself is more of a niche offering. Having tested other similar products like the Urban Arrow Family with similar motor, battery and weight specs I missed the rigid frame for starting and balance but enjoyed the comfort gained. The bright blue frame, yellow basket and orange flag reminded me of my own childhood riding in a burly trailer and I loved the additional tube slots along the side for use with surf board racks or long pieces of hardware. This is a useful bike, like a fun little pickup truck that rarely brakes down and comes in handy in different ways for each member of the family. I love that Alex can offer a bit of customization and that he’s already working on an upgraded model to compliment the standard.

Pros:

  • Community mindset: powder coating, canvas work (kids seat, basket sides) and laser cut steel all done locally, Bike Box Collective also offers discounted units to charitable organizations including Cabrillo Veterans Association and Bike Santa Cruz County
  • Emphasis on safety with reflective tires, bright yellow basket and included flag (you can add aftermarket lights to the frame for night riding)
  • Both wheels are 20″ in diameter and use the same tubes and tires keeping replacement parts more affordable and accessible, the smaller wheels lower the center of gravity and improve leverage for the hub motor
  • Powerful 500 watt motor was useful when riding with a large load (shouldn’t overheat) and having it mounted in the front wheel felt great, it didn’t spin out due to the weight of the basket
  • Accessible mid-step frame design, highly adjustable seat and bars, extra long 400 mm seat post can fit riders from 5′ to 6’6″ and the bar stem can be flipped to bring it closer to petite riders
  • Included oversized fenders keep the cargo basket dry and reduce splash from the rear, they were solid and didn’t rattle during my test rides
  • I like the threaded eyelets on the rear for adding a rack and this could be useful with a trunk bag given the lack of bottle cage bosses
  • Nine speed drivetrain offered excellent range for low or higher speeds (motor top speed is ~17 mph) the derailleur and shifters are mid-level and durable
  • Additional side mounting points (hollow tubes) for use with surf board racks, lumber and other long skinny cargo
  • Comfortable upgraded Cloud-9 Saddle (important given the smaller wheel diameter and lack of suspension) and wide Ergon GP1 ergonomic grips

Cons:

  • Heavier than an inline cargo bike at ~96 pounds, the large basket at the front and reinforced frame adds weight
  • Priced at $3,900 this is a more expensive electric bike it’s hand made and less than other box bikes like the Urban Arrow
  • The steel frame is comfortable because it flexes but not as rigid or responsive at low speeds, I felt some bending side to side that was destabilizing when starting so I preferred to start with assist off
  • This is a pedal assist only bike and I like the addition of walk mode but there’s no throttle which could be useful when starting from zero with a heavy load, the cadence sensor is a bit more basic with five magnets vs. 12 on some other ebikes I’ve tested
  • Relatively new company (officially founded in 2015) with evolving designs and business structure, mostly sold locally so it could be difficult to test ride unless you live in Santa Cruz
  • Shipping ranges from $250 to $500 given the large size and heavier weight, this isn’t a bad thing but worth considering as the bike itself is starting near $4k and they don’t have any shops at this time (local pickup is free and they offer free delivery in the San Francisco Bay Area of California)

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KaiKaiSioux
5 months ago

where do I get one?

Jr Santana
2 years ago

I live in Santa Cruz and would love to try one of these bikes since I'm not able to drive this would be perfect good luck box bike

Joe90V
2 years ago

As always, a very informative and detailed review. One thing that caught my eye though was the lack of mountings for lights - a general complaint for most manufacturers. I would like to see lights come as standard equipment although you should be able to choose your preference.

Les Hsu
2 years ago

Bit too expensive for me. I'm glad I got the RadWagon for $1599.00
instead. Much more practical. Feel free to use my name (Les Hsu) for
extra $50 savings if you order from their site.

Great One
2 years ago

Whats been your favorite bike so far of all these reviews you have done? What bike do you ride personally in your everyday life? I don't expect an answer as I know your a busy guy, but I'd love to know that if you ever see this! Thanks for the channel.

Clinton Baltazor
2 years ago

Pros: Pretty cool, very versatile and unique. Cons: The price $, battery capacity, no suspension! This box bike is definitely thinking outside it's self. However I don't think I am ready to buy one today, but this is a company to watch in the future! I'm waiting for the Mtb/tractor/pick-up truck, bed in the back and a plow in front! Something that can handle four seasons of Iowa weather! Great video/review, always very detailed and straight forward. What a location, must be nice!

Clinton Baltazor
2 years ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com Your welcome!

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+Clinton Baltazor It was a fun place to visit and Alex and his family are wonderful people. Thanks for sharing your pro and con observations, great to hear what people think unfiltered :)

Ajemo Haltom
2 years ago

This would be a great proof of concept bike for long-range ebikes. You could fill the cargo section up with spare battery packs (500 pounds worth) and see how far across the country it will go. Then try in the different pedal assist modes and see how far they get you. The problem with trailers and three wheeled designs is the extra weight dedicated to the vehicle rather than the battery capacity.

Ajemo Haltom
2 years ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com
By napkin math you would be able to carry 70 battery packs if each pack weighed 7 pounds. That would leave 10 pounds for a solar panel. with no pedaling and no sun you should be able to go 1000 miles without recharging. do that three times and you're across the US..

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+Ajemo Haltom That's a really interesting idea, I bet you could travel quite far, maybe even add a solar panel to charge spares as you ride?

Jappe Kapanen
2 years ago

You're in Santa Cruz but why you aren't testing Santa Cruz's electric bikes??

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+Jappe Kapanen I'm not sure they have ebikes? I've seen them converted though by Kranked: http://electricbikereview.com/category/kranked/

Flo Mo
2 years ago

Very convenient for large purchases.^^ SWEET. Nice Video. Thanks Sef.^^

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+Elya Cornovier Thanks Sef!

KaiserFailed
2 years ago

That view. I'm salivating. New York City, I am so done with you and your carcinogenic rivers, good bye lol

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+KaiserFailed There are some truly beautiful places in the US and a disproportionate number seem to reside in California :D

Joe G.P.
2 years ago

wouldn't 1 wheel in the front and 2 in the back make more sense for something like this ? (or the other way around)

Joe G.P.
2 years ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com yeah, that's why i was thinking 2 in the back and then you wouldn't need that kickstand either and the load would be better distributed.

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+Joe G.P. That's a really cool idea! It would keep it stable for loading but turning could become precarious. Many of the trikes I see these days are tadpole style with two wheels in the front but that adds cost and complexity to steering, trade offs...

Tardisius
2 years ago

That front post looks like a great spot for a hood ornament like a Clown head =)

NWforager
2 years ago

+Tardisius ive seen 1 where the cargo passenger can also steer there .

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+Tardisius Haha! Genius... For some reason it caught my eye too, it's a funky steering design and there's just a tube end there waiting for creative expression :P maybe that Jack in the Box guy.

nerdexproject
2 years ago

Very great ebike! :) And btw good job in editing your videos!

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+nerdexproject Thanks, I'm doing a lot right now so the editing is minimal but I'm trying to include more founder/engineer perspective to make the reviews a bit more informative and interesting

DrZarkloff
2 years ago

"kind of cool" is the phrase that I'm thinking of. I don't have any babies to haul around but I'm thinking that anyone could use a good cargo bike.

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+DrZarkloff Yeah, I bet it comes in handy all the time for scooting around town if you live close to stores or run other short errands :)

Gardener Rob
2 years ago

Great idea, kids would love taking a ride in one of these.

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+Gardener Rob OH yeah! I even enjoyed riding around in it :P

Veevee Archer
2 years ago

tyvm for the video post. I have many favorites in your collection, and this is one of them for sure.

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+Veevee Archer Awesome! Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for the supportive words :D

Angela Creasman
2 years ago

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bryphi77
2 years ago

Is traction an issue with no weight in the front?

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+bryphi77 No, he climbed a dirt trail and there was no spin out, I think it was set to medium power (I wasn't filming that part)

bryphi77
2 years ago

Yo... I think those kids were plotting to take you out. I could see them looking at you like... "Who is this crazy guy?"

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+bryphi77 Ha! Yeah, they were tired and not super stoked to be on camera and going to school :P