Specialized Turbo Review

2015 Specialized Turbo Electric Bike Review 1
2015 Specialized Turbo
2015 Specialized Turbo Sram X7 10 Speed
2015 Specialized Turbo Lithium Ion Battery
2015 Specialized Turbo Ergonomic Grips And Display
2015 Specialized Turbo Aluminum Bash Guard
2015 Specialized Turbo Backlit Computer Console And Joystick
2015 Specialized Turbo Body Geometry Targa Saddle With Lights
2015 Specialized Turbo Double Leg Kickstand
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2015 Specialized Turbo Go Swissdrive Gearless Motor
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2015 Specialized Turbo Supernova Headlight
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2015 Specialized Turbo
2015 Specialized Turbo Sram X7 10 Speed
2015 Specialized Turbo Lithium Ion Battery
2015 Specialized Turbo Ergonomic Grips And Display
2015 Specialized Turbo Aluminum Bash Guard
2015 Specialized Turbo Backlit Computer Console And Joystick
2015 Specialized Turbo Body Geometry Targa Saddle With Lights
2015 Specialized Turbo Double Leg Kickstand
2015 Specialized Turbo Electric Bike
2015 Specialized Turbo Go Swissdrive Gearless Motor
2015 Specialized Turbo Rear Wheel Above
2015 Specialized Turbo Supernova Headlight

Summary

  • Completely purpose built with integrated lights, in-frame cabling and downtube mounted battery pack that blends in
  • Available in four frame sizes for improved fit, optional city kit with fenders and rear rack for commuting, ergonomic grips and larger 700x45c tires help to smooth out the ride over long distances at higher speeds ~26 mph
  • Kickstand can feel unstable at times, charger is big and heavy, LCD display is not adjustable or removable, lights stay on all the time (even while charging), rubber joystick can feel a bit delicate

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Introduction

Make:

Specialized

Model:

Turbo

Price:

$3,800 USD

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Urban, Commuting

Electric Bike Class:

Speed Pedalec (Class 3)
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Warranty:

2 Year Battery and Motor, Lifetime Frame and Fork

Availability:

United States, Europe

Model Year:

2015

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

49.5 lbs (22.45 kg)

Battery Weight:

8 lbs (3.62 kg)

Frame Material:

Specialized M4 Aluminum Alloy

Frame Sizes:

16.5 in (41.91 cm)18 in (45.72 cm)19.5 in (49.53 cm)21 in (53.34 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

Small 16.5" (420 mm Seat Tube Length, 746 mm Stand-Over Height, 584 Top Tube Length, 1079 mm Wheelbase, 580 mm Handlebar Width), Medium 18" (460 mm Seat Tube Length, 783 mm Stand-Over Height, 602 Top Tube Length, 1097 mm Wheelbase, 580 mm Handlebar Width), Large 19.5" (500 mm Seat Tube Length, 814 mm Stand-Over Height, 615 Top Tube Length, 1111 mm Wheelbase, 580 mm Handlebar Width), Extra Large 21" (540 mm Seat Tube Length, 847 mm Stand-Over Height, 635 Top Tube Length, 1131 mm Wheelbase, 580 mm Handlebar Width)

Frame Types:

High-Step

Frame Colors:

Dream Silver

Frame Fork Details:

Rigid 6061 Aluminum Alloy with Fender and Side Bosses, 1 1/18

Attachment Points:

Rear Rack Bosses, Fender Bosses, Bottle Cage Bosses

Gearing Details:

10 Speed 1x10 SRAM X7, 11-32T

Shifter Details:

SRAM X7 SL Triggers on Right

Cranks:

Aluminum Alloy 175 mm, 48 Tooth Front Chainring

Pedals:

Aluminum Alloy Platform

Headset:

Ahead, Cartridge Bearings, Alloy Top Cap, 8 mm Cone Spacer

Stem:

3D Forged Aluminum Alloy, 4-Bolt, 7-Degree Rise

Handlebar:

Specialized Stout XC, Flat Bar, Double Butted 6061 Alloy, 9-Degree Backsweep, 4-Degree Upsweep, 31.8 mm Length

Brake Details:

Formula C1 Hydraulic Disc with 180 mm Rotors, Dual Piston, Formula C1 Levers with Rubber Knubs

Grips:

Specialized Body Geometry XCT, Dual Compound, Lock-On

Saddle:

Body Geometry Targa, Hollow Cr-Mo Rails, Integrated Backlight

Seat Post:

Specialized, Aluminum Alloy, 2-Bolt, 12.5 mm Offset

Seat Post Diameter:

31.8 mm

Rims:

Aluminum Alloy Double-Wall, Pin Joint, 36 Hole

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 2.3/2.0/2.0 mm

Tire Brand:

Electrak, 700 x 45c

Wheel Sizes:

28 in (71.12cm)

Tire Details:

Armadillo Flat Protection

Tube Details:

Presta Valve

Accessories:

4 Amp Charger (Weighs ~4.5 lbs), Optional 1.6 Amp Charger (Weighs ~1.3 lbs), Replacement Battery Pack $800, Reflective Downtube Graphics, Optional Matching Rear Carry Rack and Fenders, Bell Near Left Grip

Other:

Locking Removable Battery Pack, Self Diagnostic System LED Readout When Powered On, Throttle Mode ~12 mph (Hold Up on Joystick, Once Flashing Hold Up Again, Bike Must Be Moving to Activate), EnergyBus Magnetic Charge Port on Battery, Battery Packed by Simplo (Does Apple's Stuff, High Quality), Battery Stops with 4% at Top and Bottom to Avoid Straining Cells

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Go SwissDrive by Ortlinghaus-Gruppe

Motor Type:

Rear-Mounted Gearless Direct Drive Hub (Odd Number of Magnets for Smoother Ride)
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Motor Nominal Output:

200 watts

Motor Peak Output:

750 watts

Battery Brand:

Samsung

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

13 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

468 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

3.5 hours (7 Hours with Optional Travel Charger)

Estimated Min Range:

25 miles (40 km)

Estimated Max Range:

55 miles (89 km)

Display Type:

Fixed Backlit LCD on Right

Readouts:

Speed, Trip Odometer (Resets When Bike is Charged), Lifetime Odometer, Battery Charge Percentage, Assist Level (Regen, None, Eco, Turbo)

Display Accessories:

Rubberized Backlit Joystick

Drive Mode:

Torque Sensing Pedal Assist, Trigger Throttle

Top Speed:

26 mph (42 kph) (Up to ~12 mph in Throttle Mode)

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Written Review

The Specialized Turbo is the most affordable model in the Specialized electric bicycle lineup (as of 2015 when this review was published) which also includes the Turbo X and Turbo S. With the standard Turbo you get a beautiful purpose built frame in one of four sizes, a powerful but silent gearless rear hub motor with power regeneration, quality safety features including oversized reflectors, a bar-end mirror and integrated LED lights as well as an excellent two year electronics warranty and lifetime frame warranty. Specialized is a leading American bicycle brand launched in 1974 out of Northern California. Their slogan; “to give everyone the best ride of their life” definitely applies here because the ride is great and the price point is more in reach of “everyone” when compared with the Turbo S which is $6,000 vs. $3,800 here… For city riding and mid-range commuting the Turbo, along with the other two models, are some of the most fluid ebikes I’ve tested and the attention to detail is inspiring. It’s not a bike that was pieced together with generic off the shelf parts and it doesn’t feel like they cut any corners. My major complaints feel more like opinions here (the fast charger is heavy and large, the LCD display is built into the brake lever and doesn’t swivel, the lights stay on while charging). In short, I really like the bike but would prefer the Turbo X myself given the inclusion of a locking suspension fork for $200 more. Considering the higher speeds and longer distances that ebikes tend to endure, the suspension is just worth the extra money for me (especially since these two bikes weigh the same).

Driving the bike is a 200 watt nominal, 750 watt peak gearless direct drive motor called the “Go SwissDrive” from Ortlinghaus-Gruppe. It’s heavier and wider than most hub motors I see but the black finish blends well with accents on the frame and it doesn’t seem out of place next to the 10 speed cassette and 180 mm disc brake rotor on either side. What it delivers is smooth, powerful and near silent acceleration that reaches ~26 mph and then gracefully eases off. One of the big differences between the Turbo X and standard Turbo here vs. the more expensive Turbo S is a slightly lower top speed (the S can reach ~28 mph). In my experience, both of these slower ebikes still offer a very satisfying ride and one side benefit of the speed limit is increased range. While servicing the rear wheel, you’ll benefit from a quick disconnect point at the left side of the motor and the sturdy thru-axle which is easier to align and tighten down than a skewer. You don’t get quick release here (just on the front wheel) but the custom Electrak tires feature “Armadillo” flat protection which should help to reduce punctures. The wheelset is 700c which is a larger, more efficient size used by most road and city style bikes. The tires are 700x45c sized and that’s much wider than a road bike which are often 700x23c so you get a nice cushion that compliments the suspension and ergonomic grips at higher speeds. The tires are really unique… almost like race car slicks, they don’t feature any tread.

Powering the motor and both lights, is a super high quality 36 volt 13 amp hour battery pack. This thing is one of the major highlights on the bike because it integrates so perfectly into the downtube, creating a seamless look. The battery contains Samsung cells which are packed by Simplo (this company does Apple stuff and are recognized as a quality leader in the space). You get fifty individual 18650 cells containing a Lithium-ion chemistry that’s warrantied for two years… or 300 full cycles. I was initially put off by the seemingly low number of cycles in the guarantee but those are “full cycles” and a year contains 365 days, so if you were riding the bike from full to empty every single day 25+ miles (based on my range tests) that would be more than 9,000 miles which seems pretty solid. In short, the battery looks great, is well made, uses excellent cells and comes with solid support. If you do need a replacement or decide to get a second battery pack it will cost $800 so do take care of it! You can do this by storing it in a cool dry place and keeping it above half full when not in use over long periods (check it every few months and top it off). Now here’s a bit of an issue I noticed, the battery charger that comes with the bike is huge and weighs ~4.5 pounds. It’s not exactly backpack friendly and while you could get the optional city kit with fenders and rear rack (or add your own stuff) it would take up a lot of room and I just wasn’t stoked on the whole thing. The upside to the stock charger is that it delivers 4 Amps of energy which will charge the 468 watt hour battery in ~3.5 hours. For an additional $120 you can grab a travel charger which is slower (1.6 Amps) but much slimmer and lighter at ~1.3 pounds. I think I’d buy the travel charger for use at home (charging overnight) and then leave the larger quick charger at work for top-offs during my daily commute. Of course, the battery can be charged on or off the frame but I noticed that the lights come on whenever it is being charged on the frame (they do shut off when it’s full). This is one of my gripes about the Turbo, the lights are always on! When you charge and when you ride… They are really nice looking, especially the metal Supernova in the front, and I guess it keeps you safer and reduces complexity in the LCD menu system but it does get annoying. The original Turbo that I reviewed in 2013 seemed to let you turn the lights off by pressing in on the joystick but the new models do not. I found myself tossing a couple of shirts over the bike while charging because my room is small and the LED’s were distracting me.

Speaking of the display… it’s one of the smallest and stealthiest I’ve seen but it does have a few issues. Once the pack is charged and mounted to the frame, you press the metallic circular button at the top of the battery for a second and four LEDs flash on in sequence. If you see one of them flash multiple times it means that something is wrong in the system and each dot relates to a different component such as the motor, battery, display and lights. At this point, the sleek LCD unit near the right grip lights up and shows your speed, assist setting and one of three other readouts (odometer, trip odometer and battery charge percentage). The trip odometer resets when you plug the bike in or if you hold the little rubber joystick to the right for three seconds while in trip odometer mode (make sure you just switched into trip mode or holding to the right won’t work). The menu is really easy to navigate with the joystick thing and fairly simple to understand as long as you don’t need to do advanced stuff like disable the backlight or change from miles to kilometers… it’s all in the attached manual and involves clicking down or holding it in one direction or another. Basically you’ve got four drive modes to choose from including Turbo (which is the highest and offers full power and the 26 mph top speed), Eco mode (which is programmable between 10% and 70% output), No Assist and Regen (which turns the motor into a generator to fill the battery slowly). I really enjoyed the Eco mode and experimented with 40% and 50% output to create a slightly lighter, faster feeling “bicycle”. The Turbo is more bike-like than any other electric bike I’ve tried to date and the torque sensing motor is consistent, smooth and rarely surprising. I found myself holding the brakes while pushing down on the pedals at a stop light and unlike some other electric bikes, it didn’t try to go (even though it does not have motor inhibitors in the brake levers). I think the bike has to get going just a bit before the motor will kick in but it’s not 2 mph or anything, it’s just a little bit and it feels natural. There is a basic throttle mode built into the menus as well and you can access this by going up into Turbo mode, holding the joystick up for a few seconds until the icon flashes and then pressing and holding it up to accelerate. Note that the bike does have to be moving slightly for the throttle to kick in. Note also that I haven’t used the joystick for more than a week with a brand new demo bike and cannot comment on how well it will hold up over time. It looks well protected against water but may be delicate compared to more basic buttons used on other ebikes. One final grip about the display is that it’s not removable and cannot be swiveled to reduce glare because it’s built into the right brake lever. It’s not a huge deal because the display is small but it’s just not as convenient as some other bikes.

At the end of the day the Specialized Turbo is a $3,800 electric bike that’s priced on par with other premium offerings with the Bosch or Impulse mid-drive system but it goes faster, operates much quieter and looks more normal and “stealth”. During my ride tests it attracted more positive interest and excitement from bystanders than other ebikes I’ve tested and I think that’s because it truly blends in and is made by a company they recognize and trust. I took it to a picnic with family members in their 50’s and many of them wanted to test it out and were very impressed after a short ride. That hasn’t been the case with other electric bikes I’ve brought home. With four frame sizes to choose from (even though they are all high-step) and the vast network of Specialized dealers across the US it feels like an excellent choice, a true car replacer. In the video review you can see me racing cars from light to light and the extra speed seems to generate respect on the road which is great. While I did not install the mirror it did look nice and the locking grips and body geometry saddle worked flawlessly. This isn’t a “do everything” electric bike (I’d recommend it primarily for smooth paved riding) but it is an exciting electric bike. The weight of the motor and battery are perfectly balanced across the frame (I weighted it using a luggage scale connected near the middle of the top tube) and the pedals, cranks and 10 speed cassette perform well at low and high speed. with the bike in Eco 30% it almost feels like an ultra light road bike, until you put your foot down and remember that there are 50 pounds there instead of 20. If you want to go further, climb easier, avoid sweating or just have some fun keeping up with your friends then this could be a great choice.

Pros:

  • Mounting points for a bottle cage, lock or other accessory built directly into the top of the in-frame battery pack
  • Excellent weight distribution! While the bike is somewhat heavy given the large battery and motor, the mass is kept low to the ground and balanced front to rear
  • Sturdy, beautifully integrated LED lights by Supernova, the battery is designed to maintain enough capacity to run them at all times and even if it empties completely, the motor generates enough power through cogging to keep them going
  • Well positioned mounting points for adding fenders at the front and rear as well as a four-point carry rack, great for commuting (optional commuter package from Specialized to match perfectly)
  • Ergonomic grips and active saddle by Body Geometry from Specialized help to reduce hand and butt fatigue over long distances and higher speeds
  • All-black frame, components and accessories make this a beautiful ride and it truly blends in… less pronounced as an “electric” bike than many others
  • Includes a side mirror for safer street and city riding, this is a requirement for speed pedelecs in Europe (along with the rubber brake nubs and lights)
  • Quick disconnect motor cable and thru-axle makes service easier, the quick release front wheel makes transporting more convenient
  • Optional quick charger is slim, light weight at ~1.3 lbs and costs $120, it could be useful for commuters

Cons:

  • The little rubber joystick used to navigate the display may be more delicate than clicky buttons used on more traditional displays I’ve tested
  • LCD display panel is built into the right brake lever and cannot be swiveled front to back for improved view or reduced glare
  • Center mounted kickstand makes changing the front tire easy and keeps the bike straight but feels tippy side to side, overall less stable than some other stands
  • The included battery charger is very fast but also large and heavy which makes it much more difficult to take along in your pack to charge at work etc. however, there is a small light weight travel charger available for ~$120
  • When charging the battery pack on the bike the headlight and taillight come on and seem to stay lit which can be annoying if you don’t want the extra light
  • No way to turn off the headlight and tail light while the bike is turned on (I think the Turbo S let’s you toggle them by pressing the joystick in), sometimes it’s nice to cruise without blinding friends or try to blend in more in my opinion so this would be a nice feature
  • It would be nice if in addition to the regen mode (which requires you to click down two or three times using the joystick) the Turbo X and standard Turbo offered regenerative braking so you could capture electricity and save the brake pads more seamlessly by pulling the brake levers
  • It seems like anyone could press the power button on the battery pack and tamper with the display, you don’t need the key or any kind of special fob or password to activate the bike… still, the motor won’t start without the bike rolling a little bit so if it’s chained up maybe that’s not a huge deal (aside from lights being on)

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Ken
3 years ago

Hey, I just got this bike and love it. The one thing I don’t particularly like is that I can’t seem to figure out how to turn off the lights during the day. Do you know how to do this. I see in the 2014 model the instruction manual just says to hold the joystick down but the 2015 model it doesn’t have this option. Thanks

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Court Rye
3 years ago

Hi Ken! This was one of my big complaints with the Turbo X and it sounds like maybe all newer models… You cannot turn off the lights (at least from what I could tell and I think I also asked Specialized). Even when charging the bike, the lights stay on and that’s annoying if you’re trying to sleep :/ just put a rag over it with a rubber band or something I guess. If you figure it out, let me know for sure!

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Dan
3 years ago

Hey Ken, I just bought the bike too. Rides great. However my buying experience was horrible. I was told by the dealer (Fresh Bikes) that the bike doesn’t come with the magnetic rubber plug cover. I pointed to the pictures in the manuals. They just tried to send me on my way. I called Specialized directly while in the store and was told that it should have come with a plug. I was forwarded to someone who was away at lunch. Hopefully when he returns, he will send me a plug cover. (Hours later and still no call back by Specialized.) This is not how my “special” and expensive bike experience should be starting. I am saddened and worried. Dealer was sure nice when they getting me to pay. Not so much after they got the money. To make matters worse, after I got my bike home I researched the plug issue and learned that the list price for the bike is $3000 instead of the $3800 price.

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Court Rye
3 years ago

Sorry they weren’t more attentive with the magnetic plug… yeah, that should definitely come with. Regarding price, I was told $3,800 but there might be adjustments as seasons change. I hope you enjoy riding the bike and service improves in the future, it’s a great design but yeah… quite a bit of money and you’d expect friendly service. Which Specialized dealer was this?

Niklas
3 years ago

Hi Court. Thanks for a brilliant review! Any idea if its possible to attach a child carrier hitch to this bike? Its usually no problem with a quick release system but this one seems to have a thru axle

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Court Rye
3 years ago

Hi Niklas! Great question… I believe the Turbo models use a 12 mm thru-axle which could possibly be modified (along with your hitch) but might require extra work and time (and tools). Some other bicycle trailers and carriers attach to the seat and chain stays on the left side (but there’s a disc brake on the Turbo here which might collide) and still others attach to the seat post, this might be the best option to pursue but I cannot guarantee it will work. Depending on the age and balance of the child you could explore a trailer more like this or try to make your own adapter. I wish I could offer more help but this is a new area for me, I’d love to hear what you end up doing and how it works, feel free to post pictures in the Specialized forum here :)

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Hudson
2 years ago

I bought Specialized Turbo X and it was missing the battery cap. My dealer took a week to get a replacement. I found out the battery cap is hiding inside the battery transport box. I hope that answers your searching question.

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Court Rye
2 years ago

Great tip Hudson, thanks for chiming in!

Niklas
3 years ago

Hi again. A solution found here http://www.thule.com/en-us/us/products/active-with-kids/multifunctional-child-carriers/accessories/thule-syntace-x-12-axle-adapter-_-1684669

Couldn’t be easier:-). Turbo purchased today here in Oslo Norway. Cant wait to pick it up tomorrow:-) thanks again for a brilliant review(s) of all kind of ebikes!

Product Description: Thule Syntace X-12 Axle Adapter. This thru axle adapter allows Thule child carriers to be compatible with bikes with 12 mm Syntace X-12 rear axle and costs $59.95

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Court Rye
3 years ago

This is awesome Niklas! Thanks for sharing, that looks like the perfect part for adding a trailer. I hope you and your family enjoy the bike, thanks for the compliment, I do my best to help people find a good product and I believe Specialized has created something special and high performing with the Turbo. Ride safe :)

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Lyn
3 years ago

Just bought one here in New Zealand for my birthday. I have a hilly commute for about 6k, then another 6k on a flat bike path. Can’t wait! I’ll report back once I’ve broken it in. And thanks for the review; most helpful.

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Court Rye
3 years ago

Awesome Lyn! I hope you love it and have a great time riding around, would love to hear your thoughts after a bit of use ;)

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Lyn
2 years ago

I just had my first real test ride, and it was absolutely amazing. I’ve been bike-commuting with my Trek by driving to a bike path about 6km from work and then cycling the rest of the way. Our main road is narrow and clogged with logging trucks, just way too scary. The Turbo allowed me to use the hilly back roads just parallel to the main road. It was so fast and easy, yet still a good workout. Once I add in the time to mount my rack and fiddle getting the bike on and off, it’s only going to add about 15 minutes to the commute to bike the whole way!

I love how responsive and natural the bike feels. I used to bike quite bit back in the day, so I appreciate a bike that feels like a ‘real’ bike. I think the review is spot on – I do wish that display was easier to read. It’s a great bike for us older riders (I’m 57), and it’s not easy to read whilst riding. If I had had an option for a suspension fork I would have taken it, but there are limited models available in NZ.

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Court Rye
2 years ago

Hi Lyn! Great testimonial, thanks for taking the time to share… sounds like the Turbo has enabled you to go all-bike and skip the short drive. I really enjoy backroads but they can add a strain without assist, do ride safe out there! Bummer that there weren’t any Turbo X models with the suspension fork where you’re at but at least you’ve got the larger tires and a solid platform. I really enjoyed testing the Turbo, it’s a beautiful bike and I hope it works well for you ongoing :)

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Ray
2 years ago

Does anyone know what the main differences are between the 2015 and 2016 standard Turbo models (not Turbo X or S)? Far as I can tell, it seems the only difference is they dropped the price a whopping $800 from $3,800 to $3,000. If they dropped the price without changing any of the components, this is fantastic, but how are they doing this? Excess supply of the older 200w motors? It would make sense since the Turbo X and S are now being outfitted with bigger motors for 2016 (250w and 500w, respectively).

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Court Rye
2 years ago

Hi Ray, I think you’ve got it… The primary difference seems to be the lower price and availability of more powerful or richly outfitted options.

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mike
2 years ago

Having been looking at reviews off/on past year. Happened so see Specialized Turbo avail on sale locally. Was looking for 2016 models Evo or Nitro as more powerful batteries, and more efficient frames. Some Q I hope you can answer, if you have not reviewed the 2016 models perhaps sending a link whenever will do. ( not urgent).

What is your view in comparing these models? Use for a day vs weeks, what do you find important. How important is range, if less than say 40k/day is range important. Comfort, noise, squeaky breaks/rattles, viewable displays, easy display use, shocks, treaded tires… Many items not really identifiable from your reviews No product vs product comparison.

My kids have grown up and are into cars, not bikes, so if I buy a new bike they won’t destroy it. See use as mainly road (but roads have pot holes), sidewalks and perhaps dirt paths. I liked the Evo offerings but the new Nitro look even better. Never looked at Specialized before today and a quick compare would be appreciated (ride-ability not features). Like the Evo price and features but the Specialized with numerous options for things like fenders, racks, bottle holders…

How do these bikes compare in terms of ride ability, reliability, battery life(long-term), battery replacement (future), are there any features that you would say would make one more favorable? As an “urban” resident have Q about extras you would recommend are needed on an e-bike vs a pedal bike. Is a something like a removable display a preferred requirement? Are you better off taking your battery with you? Not an avid biker (anymore), but perhaps an e-bike will start me up again.

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Court Rye
2 years ago

Hi Mike, I believe both the Specialized and Easy Motion models could be outfitted with racks, fenders and lights to suit your needs and I definitely recommend taking your battery inside when parking the bike at a rack or even in a cold/hot garage. Keep the battery in a cool dry environment and store at ~60% for long periods or charge before each ride. You can get great range on the Turbo or Nitro but the higher speed swill limit you as drag increases significantly above 20 mph as the square of air resistance.

I prefer an electric bike with suspension for longer rides and I usually take my charger with me so either bike could work for this (the Specialized Turbo X is my favorite because it has a suspension fork). Both companies offer good warranties and have a network of capable dealers. Specialized Turbo models are quieter because they use gearless direct drive hubs and this also potentially makes them more durable. The price of the new base model Turbo for 2016 is ~$3k which is awesome but still, I’d pay a bit more for the Turbo X myself. I love that it comes in several sizes for a good fit and that it has lights for safety. I hope this helps, the site will have a compare feature soon but I am fixing some bugs right now so it’s disabled.

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Al
2 years ago

Is it possible to swap out the rear wheel with a more powerful motor?

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Court Rye
2 years ago

I’m sure it’s possible but probably not something officially offered or supported by Specialized… In my experience these Go SwissDrive motors are pretty zippy and you could choose the Turbo S if you want the most powerful version vs. buying the bike and swapping out the rear wheel and motor.

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GB
2 years ago

Just test rode a Turbo today.

  • Nice – smooth, natural & quick.
  • Close to a Stromer st1, at a lower price point.
  • Make sure to include the Turbo on your “short list” of possible options when you head out for your test-rides.

Also Court, please consider getting a helmet mount for your camera, as I’d hate to see a bad Wipe-out while you’re speeding along one-handed!
Safety first and keep up the great work.

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Court Rye
2 years ago

Nice! Thanks for the feedback GB, sounds like you really enjoyed the Turbo. It’s a sweet bike for sure, I love the Specialized designs and am stoked to see them offering more Turbo models in 2016 :D

Also, thanks for the safety tips GB, I’ve got some new equipment that helps to get nice angles and improve safety but really appreciate your care and feedback :)

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Hudson
2 years ago

I just purchased 2015 Specialized Turbo X in California! Does anyone know how to charge Specialized Turbo on public electric automobile charging station? Is there an adapter? Who do I need to contact in order to purchase a public charging adapter!

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Court Rye
2 years ago

I remember visiting the ChargePoint guys in the Bay Area a while back and it seemed like their paid stations had standard wall outlets built in (at least some of them). You might be better off bringing the battery inside with you and plugging into a normal wall socket :/ ps. maybe this site can help, I built it a number of years ago and now a friend runs it.

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DK
2 years ago

These comments are to inform potential purchasers so they can be well informed, as I have found very little real user feedback online. Take it all with a ‘grain of salt’. I’ve been commuting (20+ miles each way with hills) on my Turbo now for well over a month and overall I like it a lot. Because I’ve been commuting with it for a while now and gotten over the initial novelty, I feel confident commenting about the bike. The integration is undeniable, it is oh so clean, I get positive comments all the time. The first question I get is; how long does the battery last. With a topped off battery and a commute of 20 miles of which I have a solid 3/4 mile climb and several tiny ones, I still have 40% when I get to the office. I weigh ~200lbs with all my gear. For my very first ride into the office, I only had 14% left when I got into the office and was really concerned I didn’t make the right choice. Don’t be alarmed, the battery takes a couple of charges to get to full capacity. Now, I’ve got plenty of juice and never suffered range anxiety since.

I feel a little duped because all the advertising and on Specialized’s website says 28mph, it’s only assisted to 26mph. I know 2mph difference seems trivial, but I want it to go 28mph with assist, especially if they advertise it as such. Only the S, and now the X is 28mph capable with assist. 200 watts is barely sufficient if you have any real climbs during your ride, especially given the poor choice of the stock 32t low gear, save yourself and get a 34t at minimum or a 36t for the real world if you have climbs in your ride. Buy a second charger, I have one at the office and one at home. I don’t regret my purchase, but in retrospect, the X model might not have been a bad way to go given the suspension, a slightly more powerful motor, and slightly greater capacity battery. If your riding is more flat, then the Turbo’s 200 watts will be enough. There are a few other short comings that you will discover, but will overlook because the bike is so darn fun to ride. Now, I’m saving for a Turbo S!!

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Court Rye
2 years ago

Excellent feedback DK, I agree with each of your points and appreciate the background on how range was more limited when it was brand new and how the second charger has made a difference in addressing range anxiety. I love the Turbo X due to its suspension and would like to see a greater range of sprockets for climbing just like you’ve pointed out. Thanks again!

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Doug
2 years ago

I have been riding my 2016 Specialized Turbo since mid-November, 2015. A couple of additional observations…The “2016” model is, in fact, identical to the 2015. I have seen several supposed 2016 models which were manufactured in October – November of 2014 as mine was. Notwithstanding, I was glad to get the $800 discount by buying it as a 2016 model. I had it delivered with an 11-36 SRAM cluster instead o the 11-32, and I then found a 44T chainring and bash guard to replace the stock 48T. This allows me to ride at a cadence of 85-90 rpm at or slightly above the 42kph limit in 9th or 10th gear while getting a 21% lower first gear. I have had no issues powering up hills and save the “Turbo” button for this use. Riding at ECO40 I can get a 50 mile range. At full Turbo, I plan rides no more than 25 miles. I have added the fender/rack kit, changed to treaded 700 x 37C tires, a Thudbuster ST seatpost, and Kool Stop organic brake pads (work MUCH better than stock metallic). The stock handgrips are not very comfortable, so I also changed to a set of Ergon GP5’s.

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Court Rye
2 years ago

Wow! You sound very experienced with bikes Doug, thanks for sharing the details of your upgrades and also how the bike performs on rides for you. Would you mind sharing what frame size you got and also your weight? I think that could be useful for others considering the bike and trying to determine how far they might go per charge. Also, what fender + rack setup did you buy for your Turbo?

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Doug
2 years ago

Court, This is a much delayed reply. I have a Large frame. I am 5’11” and 235 lbs, 65 years old, and recovered from a heart attack 16 years ago, so I am not terribly athletic. I now have around 1000 miles on my Turbo and still really like it. I went on a 30 mile ride yesterday at ECO70 (or full Turbo) and still had 30% battery left, suggesting a comfortable range of around 40 miles at ECO70. I am quite certain my range at ECO40 is over 50 miles in warm weather.My longest ride to date is 45 miles in cold weather with around 16-20% battery left.

Also, I am using the factory fenders/rack kit with the built in tailight. I wired the tailights so both the seat light AND the rack light work simultaneously. I also have a Serfas flashing tailight mounted over the reflector in the rack so that I now have three BRIGHT tailights, one of which flashes.

Another tip based on experience. When riding on bike trails here in New England, full Turbo is too much. These paved, but somewhat narrow and rough trails are not safe at 25 mph when other bicyclists, pedestrians, skaters, kids, and horses are sharing the trail. I only use the higher speeds when riding by myself on regular roads.

Alex
2 years ago

I did not agre with most of this review the riding quality of this turbo it’s not smooth at all not due to the 700x 45c tires but the frame construction I can say is more inclined to a super stiff than smooth if you happen to atach a sport camera like gopro on the handlebar the video will be ending shaking a lot due to the stiffness of the ride. The electric motor is 250 watts not 200 watts this version of the specialized turbo it’s limited to 25/mph. Since this is pedalec assistance bicycle a better bottom bracket is essential, surprisingly not the case of this specialized turbo. A good example of this will be climbing a little hill (2 miles long) at 9% inclination you will feel the need of stiffness in the bottom braket, also prolonged climbing at this inclination will get the electric motor hot regardless how fast or slow you can pedal. The regenerative option works only when you go downhills if you try to pedal in this option on the flat you ending tired of moving 50 lbs bicycle plus the generator force distance varies depending on how much you stop, hills, windy days and ovbiosly how much you pedal it will take couple of days to learn the basics like not to extra pedal at certain speed reached when the motor cuts because you get tire sooner again pushing 50 lbs bicycle, people asking haw fast you can go! This specialized turbo is designed to go 25/mph you can go faster but again if you are on a flat road and you use the economy mode at 40% anything faster than 25/mph is useless.

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Court Rye
2 years ago

Thanks for the feedback Alex, I do my best to get the specs right and always ask reps at the shop and study the websites but sometimes I’m looking at a brand new bike and just don’t have all of the details. I agree that this is a stiffer bike and it can feel abrasive at high speed. For me, the best Turbo right now for street riding is the X model because it has a suspension fork :)

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Jeffrey Baker
1 year ago

I recently got one of these and I wanted to write down a few surprising things, so that people can find this information online. I have a 29-mile round trip commute that starts with a 2-mile, 750-foot descent, followed by 12.5 miles of flats, then the reverse. The bike can just barely do this on 80% of its battery, if I use Eco mode for most of the flat part and keep the speed to 25 miles/hour or less. When the battery gets to 20% the bike will not use Turbo mode, only Eco. This is a bit of a nuisance if it hits 20% and you still have a climb home, because in Eco this bike is like riding a cargo bike with totally inappropriate gearing. Speaking of gearing, what were they thinking? The 32T first gear isn’t low enough to get up a mountain, and the 9th and 10th gears are useless because you can’t reach those speeds on this bike with these tires. Last thing is the regeneration mode is useless. I can put it in Regen mode and ride 2 miles and 750 feet down at 25 m/h and the battery doesn’t gain even 1% charge. In the other direction it loses 15-20% battery charge depending on speed! I think you would have to descend quite a distance (i.e. down Mt Whitney) to noticeably charge the battery.

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Court Rye
1 year ago

Great feedback, thanks for taking the time to share Jeffrey! Hope you’re enjoying the bike overall, sounds like the range is a bit disappointing.

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Pedro
1 year ago

If you had choice between the turbo or izip e3 dash mid drive which is a better buy for warranty and drivetrain

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Court Rye
1 year ago

Hmm… are both bikes available at your local dealer? Even if warranty says it’s going to cover you for an extended period, there’s a lot to be said for convenience of a local dealer who can support you vs. sending emails and potentially mailing a bike or parts for repair. The Dash is an awesome bike and I like mid-drive systems for efficiency but the Turbo is quieter, smoother and better looking. With the Dash, your drivetrain (chain and sprockets) will take more wear and your top speed will be dependent on which gear you’re in vs. on the Turbo where the motor is separate.

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Pedro
1 year ago

Thanks the bike shop here in Salt Lake City is a big specialized dealer and I also think one of their big warehouses is here as well the guys tell me they can get parts and bikes like in a day that’s good know for sevices

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Court Rye
1 year ago

Sounds like a good fit, especially if they are excited about the bike and willing to help you out. I have owned several Specialized ebikes and love their designs, the support is usually solid… they just cost a bit more :)

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Corey Meyer
12 months ago

I’ve had a Specialized Turbo since 7/2016 or so. I bought it b/c I moved somewhere about 10 miles from where I work (used to live about 5 miles easy biking from work) and started off driving – which I hated. I researched and discovered the electric bikes and found that the shop around the corner carried the Specialized Turbo. The test ride was great, reviews were great, so I bought it. After this many months, if I could again – I probably wouldn’t.

So, basically I bike 10 miles each way, most of the time at 40% boost, only really using 100% for hills. If I’m in a hurry, I demolish the trip on 100%, which I quite enjoy. So I don’t push it very hard and rarely use it at full go. I bought the bike during the summer (I live in New England w solid winters) and for the first couple months had no issues – was great. However, the bike has been in/out of the shop since then. Mostly electronics issues – lot of troubles w the connection between the battery and control panel. And while the warranty covers parts, it doesn’t cover labor. And so I’m paying my bike guys (who are GREAT) to try to figure out electronics issues – which isn’t their strength. I’ve had a number of things replaced (including the entire battery, the control panel – which they tried to say wasn’t covered b/c it gets used, and non-electronics like a spoke). At this point, I honestly feel like I’m being punished for trying to do a good thing.

In the end, the bike is great when it works, but it’s been a VERY expensive pain in the butt that I lose for 1-3 weeks at a time every couple months due to issues that my bike guys struggle to figure out b/c it’s not their expertise, and that Specialized seems to be difficult about (from my end). If I had it to do again, I’m honestly not sure I would do it again.

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Court Rye
12 months ago

Hey Corey, I think you delivered that perfectly and empathize with your situation… I have heard similar statements from ebike shops about specific brands of bikes and there has been some migration to brands like Bosch which tend to be more reliable. Perhaps that is the direction Specialized themselves are going with the new Vado that uses a Brose motor system. In any case, I appreciate you trying to do something good by riding your bike and I only wish your first experience had been a bit less painful. I hope this resource has served you well but recognize my own shortcomings as a “reviewer” who really just does good overviews. As a sort of early adopter, there are painful moments to deal with. Thanks for taking them in stride and sharing so constructively :)

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Adam
10 months ago

Hey Court,

I just purchased the $2500.00 turbo. I have the FSR Levo at home for 2 weeks as a demo and demo’d the first Turbo when it came out. I like the speed and feel as a commuter bike which is why this was my purchase and the other side is I do want to buy again when more options come out. Anyway, they do not carry the fenders any longer “sold out” and for my commute I really do want/need them. I’ve ordered the panniers and looking to see if you have or know of any way to get the factory fenders used or elsewhere?

Thanks!

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Court Rye
10 months ago

Hi Adam! Thanks for the update about fender stock… sounds like they are preparing for the upcoming Vado model and offering a big discount on the Turbo and thinning out parts. I feel like there would be aftermarket fenders you could buy and attach. The best approach might be to ask for advice in the Specialized Forums or work with a shop that carries the Turbo and has one in stock they could measure. One ebike shop that I believe carries Specialized among many other brands is Propel Bikes in Brooklyn. I hope this helps!

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Doug
10 months ago

I have commented above a few months ago, but wanted to add comments.

Just got back on the bike after a pretty long winter. My bike now has about 1400 miles. Since my last comment, I have made some other mods. I changed the shifting over to 11-speed Shimano XT from the SRAM. I now have an 11-42T rear with 48T front (same as the Turbo S). Lots better on hills and better choice of the right gear for a 85-90 rpm cadence at high speed.

My original battery developed an intermittent failure where the entire bike would cut out. Rather than diagnose and repair, Specialized offered to replace the battery. I offered to pay for a Turbo SC (691Wh with Bluetooth) battery and got it for the difference in price ($200). So now, with upgrades to shifting, battery, and other mods, my base Turbo is functionally equivalent to a Turbo S EXCEPT for motor power. The big bonus is range. I now get a solid 40 miles at full TURBO setting and 100 miles at ECO40. No more range anxiety at all!

A last comment on speed, etc. At full TURBO, I can average between 19 – 21 mph over distance on rolling rural New England roads. Tops assisted speed is 42 kmh (26,2 mph). If I had a Turbo S rear wheel, I could probably average 25+ mph with a top assist speed of 28 mph as Ravi did on his Stromer ST-2S on his marathon ride last summer. The speed up hills would also be GREATLY increased. OTOH, the range would be back to about what my Turbo was when I got it (20-25 mi at full Turbo and 40-50 mi at cruise) I need the range much more than I need the speed….but power is corrupting!

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Court Rye
10 months ago

What a great update Doug! I’m glad to hear that Specialized took care of you and even offered the flexibility of a battery upgrade. Excellent choice, very cool that you can now get the range you need. What a great time of year Spring is, I’ve been getting back out and riding my bikes in Colorado since the snow has melted :D

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Kevin Smith
7 months ago

Been a couple of months since anyone posted on this bike but I wonder if anyone can provide any thoughts?

I am considering purchasing this bike at a great discount. Local dealer has one still in stock at 30% off. The technology is a year or two old but the bike looks and rides great and it lets me get into a decent ebike at less that $3k Cdn.

Alternative would be the new Turbo Vada 3.0 for $1400 more. The Vado is equiped better but the older Turbo is much more of a hybrid style which I like. I will be using it for recreational riding a few times a week of 30/40 km on paved and gravel paths. I’m 60 and have arthritis in my hips etc. so the eBike will help me keep riding a few more years.

Will I have any issues with parts or service? Maybe I should hunt down and purchase spare battery while stock is still available?

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Court Rye
7 months ago

Hi Kevin! Based on a lot of comments here and some in-person feedback it does sound like you will struggle with support and parts on these older models. Specialized has moved completely to Brose and even when the the GoSwiss Drive was still the main system, it sounds like people had trouble getting a replacement battery pack, controllers, and the little display with the joystick on some models. Completely good ebikes with just one little issue could not be fixed. Now, the flip side is that this is a beautiful and awesome electric bike! I have known some people who bought it and had it work great for a long time. If you care for it, I think it could last… but if anything goes wrong, you may have to source parts from other people who are dismantling their bikes or try to fix it yourself. I personally would get the Vado because Brose is a bigger company and this is the direction Specialized is going now. It’s a bit of a bummer because the original Turbo models are great when they work :)

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Foolke
16 hours ago

I bought an Specialized Vado 6.0.
In the android app store I downloaded the ‘missioncontrol app’.
In my phone blue tooth I can see my bike. But when I switch to the app trying to complete the add bike procedure, my bike doesn’t appear in the found bikes list.
Can some 1 help please?

e-levity
18 hours ago

Hi Jim,

I’m surprised that your new Expert Levo came with a SRAM chain. The Specialized website says the 2018 Expert should have a KMC X11ET (recommended above by LimboJim). X11ET chains came stock on our ‘18 Comp Levos, and they have held up well to lots of abuse riding in desert sand. However, we haven’t used them in the type of mud shown in your original picture.

In any case I wouldn’t give up on a bike due to something as simple as a chain. Try a different one, and monitor wear as LimboJim suggests. I haven’t heard of SRAM Power Links (or KMC Missing Links) being especially susceptible to failure when caked with mud, but perhaps you should just switch to a pinned chain. I’ve had good luck with Shimano XTR pinned chains over the years, but now I’m even using their new removable link on one of my other bikes.

Good luck.

Lost
1 day ago

Yep, one order from luna had everything I needed. I already had an extra battery so I just got their bbs02 kit and stuck it on. To make things easy, I told the LBS that I will buy the bike if they took the bottom bracket apart for me. After the weird look, it was all done. I love this bike, it is. a great, trouble free conversion. I’ve since added hydraulic 203mm brakes on the front and a spyke rear caliper, which I like even more than the hydraulic front setup.

LimboJim
1 day ago

My Bulls FS3 eMTB has a Brose motor, same as your Turbo Levo, Jim. Sure, Specialized "custom-programmed" the motor's software, but it's still cranking the same 90Nm of extra torque through the drivetrain. I also own a Haibike Sduro Allmtn+ with a Yamaha (80Nm), and a Motobecane w/Shimano (75Nm). My friends and I have put hundreds of trail miles on all three, and we've broken a few chains.

We've all been mountain biking since the early '90s, and consider ourselves to be experienced riders who know how and when to shift. eMTBs, however, are a different story. I find that they're far more susceptible than unassisted MTBs to bending chain links when shifting under any kind of load and/or the slightest cross-chaining, and are totally intolerant of standstill shifts (especially when caked in dried mud, which makes everything stickier). Of these three ebikes, the Bulls w/Brose has been the most prone to chain breaks, even when freshly cleaned and properly lubed. I suspect it's because of the motor's higher torque (it's also the heaviest of the three).

My 2002 Stumpjumper could go indefinitely without lubing its chain, and did 15 years ago when I first got it. One of my buds now wants to buy his own eMTB, which is great, but he only cleans his current MTB semi-annually, and maintenance is not something he does frequently, either. I told him what I'm saying to you - if you expect to treat an eMTB just like a mountain bike, you'll likely be disappointed. For me, pedal assist amplifies the fun factor by at least 10, but also requires three times the maintenance.

That's a trade-off I'm willing to make.

rich c
1 day ago

That's an odd question, I mentioned earlier I had a 30 year career at Caterpillar in post #9. There is plenty of tensile strength chain data on-line, but I don't know what SRAM chain you have.

PCDoctorUSA
1 day ago

My big concern is the ascent back up. I've reached out to a lot of people here who have had offered some great feedback both in these forums and private conversations in hopes of coming up with a consensus of the best direction to go in regards to type of drive: geared rear hub or mid-drive. I don't know anyone locally who owns any type of electric bike, and I only spot an electric bike in my daily commute once in a blue moon so these forums are my only source for info. I have yet to find a LBS that is both knowledgeable and passionate about selling ebikes that could help me. The big brand dealers (Specialized and Trek) only have a few models to make the Brand happy while they concentrate on selling non-ebikes. The owner of one ebike-only shop couldn't even tell me the correct model names of the bikes he had to sell or even figure out their displays to show me the Assist levels. I actually knew more than he did thanks to EBR forum members and Cort's reviews.

For those that have looked at the https://www.dropbox.com/s/ym61mubq23mjhg5/Commute%20Elevation.jpg?dl=0, most have said the geared rear hub on the Yukon 750 will make the once daily climb without issue. I've had one reader in another EBR forum that says a geared rear hub won't make it, but a Bafang BBS02 mid-drive will. My goal this weekend is to visit a shop that rents ebikes to the tourists and see if they have a geared hub model so I can see how it does on my hill. I'm really hoping the geared rear hub will do the job because there are no mid-drive options in the Yukon's price range even with adding in the cost of changing out the tires to something more street commuter friendly once the Yukon arrives. Voltbike's shipping charge of $120 to Hawaii is also the cheapest of ANY online dealer I've found yet. If a dealer ships to Hawaii at all, the price is between $300 and $500.

Thanks in advance to anyone else that would like to chime in.

Jim Laslett
1 day ago

I haven’t done any calculations that’s why I’m asking SRAM first saves me the job and they might say the chain is not suitable for this bike.
The dirt on the bike is from the night before, I personally don’t think this was the reason
For the chain snapping. I’ve only ridden the bike five times As I said if this chain can’t cope with mud there is little sense in fitting it to an off road bike. The chain will be working in mud and rain whilst using the bike. If I was to leave the bike for me more than one day I would clean and lube but seeing as this is light surface mud and the chain is new I would expect it to cope.
Do you work for specialized?

Jim Laslett
1 day ago

Has anybody else had problems with the chain breaking on 2017 specialized turbo Levo FSR Expert 6fattie electric bike??

Jim Laslett
1 day ago

All very valid points, I’ve emailed SRAM asking for the chain tolerances. This is an off road bike so I will be riding in the mud and expect the chain to cope with mud. The chain is so new it’s not within maintenance duration. I’ve been riding motorbikes since I was five in the mud and never had a chain snap. I’ve been cycling for 30 year and never
Had a chain snap. I know how to lube a chain as I used to be a motorbike mechanic.
I’m not here to argue this is information on this bike and the unhelpful retailer. I own to other specialized bikes which are great this is why I am so disappointed.
If I was the retailer I would of at the very least offered a new chain.

Jim Laslett
1 day ago

The chain is SRAM

Thank you for the advice very helpful, I do t think these ha e been tested properly and if they have I don’t want a bike I have to change the chain on every 28 days

The chain is SRAM PC-X1, to be honest from my engineering point of view any chain put on this sort of bike should not break so easy. I mean it’s an off road bike it should be able to take most punishment at £3750.
If it can’t I don’t want to be changing chains every 28 days. The chain should be strong enough to cope. For Rutland not to offer any help when the bike is still in warranty and there website offer a 30 day satisfaction on any electric bike, I’m contacting a retail solicitor and trading standards Monday. I’ve had the area manager contact me sounding panicked. The bottom line is this is a new bike costing £3750 now broken, by law they should offer to fix it or replace it. I am a touch annoyed.

RostHaus
1 day ago

Check out Luna Cycle, they'll have kits to do exactly what you are looking for. Its quite straight forward and only requires 2 or 3 basic bike tools to complete.

I like the Como 2, but its about 3 times the cost of a Roll Sport plus a BBSO2/HD kit.. One thing I would recommend is but the lower end or mid range Specialized Roll; the one with gearing only on the rear wheel. Makes things easier and you won't be using the mid gearing anyways.

Farther
1 day ago

Wow, I'm very impressed!

I'm new to the forum and have been wanting an ebike for a while now so my rides can be longer and with less strain on my body.

Just returned from a week in Florida where I rented a Specialized Roll and was very impressed with it, so I did a search for an ebike conversion for that bike and found your post.

Can you please provide a list of your parts and where you got them? Also any other tips would be greatly appreciated.

Not sure I have the guts to pull the trigger, but this mod would be perfect for me. If I buy factory built, I'm leaning heavily towards the Specialized Como 2, which is basically an electrified Roll Sport.

I've not done any bike mods, or even maintenance, but I have high mechanical aptitude. I'm a machinists and had my own shop for 18 years before selling out. I now manage a shop for a former customer.

Any help, or advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Motodaddy
24 hours ago

I was recently your position looking for an ebike that fit my commuting needs (10 miles, some hills but nothing crazy). I tried hub drives and mid drives. Hub drives I tried were cross current, Stromer st1 and magnum. As soon as I stepped on a mid drive with a bosch cx system I didn’t look back at the hub drives. The responsiveness and natural feel of this is perfect for the stop and go of real life commuting. Also the emtb mode is great for traffic because you can “set it and forget it” and the system will adjust assist to your needs leaving you able to concentrate on traffic. Turbo mode is just mental. Anyways try this system before you buy anything else. There are a 2017 cube bikes available, I got my cross pro for equivalent of 2100usd.

Jim Laslett
1 day ago

Hi

I purchased a specialized turbo Levo for expert 6 fattie 18th January 2018 the chain has snapped and bent the chain guide. This has only taken 28 days which I’m am shocked about.
I have barely used this bike and I was using it to walk the dog this morning. This happened from a standing start as soon as a started to ride.
I am a qualified mechanical engineer and have two other specialized bikes (not electric)
This is a design fault, the chain is not strong enough for the torque of the motor. I have lost confidence in this product and believe this will be a on going problem.

Rutland cycles have this reply:
Hi Jim,

Thank you for your email and the images. Due to the size of your original email I have been unable to reply in the same chain.

We are sorry to hear that you have experienced issues so early on.

Unfortunately chains are a wear and tear part and on occasion a chain may snap due to several circumstances not limited to; starting off in the wrong gear, shifting under load or having debris entering the drivetrain.

The torque of the motor will not be a factor in the sudden failure of the chainlink. The Levo motor produces at most 700-800w most chains are able to withstand over 2000w regularly.

To rectify this issue all you will need is a split link to join the chain back together, on some Levo's one even comes with the bike, located in the top cap area.

As the issue can be repaired and the bike has been ridden it cannot be returned.

Best regards,

Danielle

Customer Services

E: enquiries@rutlandcycling.com

T: 0330 555 0080 lines open Monday to Friday 9.30am-5.00pm

Best regards,

Customer Services

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Gina
3 days ago

I am 61 years, 95 lbs and want to switch to an electric assist to help me up the hills to the tennis courts. I'm used to riding my bike to the courts but have lived in flat terrain in the past. Now I live with some steep hills and they are just too tough for me. Most of my riding will be the 4 mile return commute to the courts three times a week but I'd like to be able to take the bike to parks and ride through the trails so I'd like the bike to be as light as possible yet have the nice features such as hydraulic disc brakes as I'm a slow rider, a little nervous going down the hills or going fast. Anyone have either of these bikes, compared them yourself, or have some suggestions that I may not have considered? I haven't tested the actual bikes as they have to be ordered so I want to be almost certain before I have one ordered. I rode the Trek but the 16.5" frame and I rode last year's medium frame Turbo, slightly different model. E-bikes are totally new to me and they both felt good. Thank you for any feedback or suggestions!

Dmitri
4 days ago

GX Rohloff handles just fine at high speeds. The only things I can complain about is that wind affects at this speed are colossal. Depends on your posture I suppose, I sit in a vertical position so greater area of 'sail' for wind to move. Rohloff handles speed just fine, just ramp it up slowly and you'll be fine. To go 45-50kph I just switch to Sport, never had to use Turbo.

JillRide45
5 days ago

I have a 2018 Carbon Comp Levo, and when I purchased it they had the discounted women's models on the floor. If you ride rocky technical MTB trails I would go with the 2018. The 2018 is so much smoother than the 17. Power on the 17 never felt as nice as the 18 motor. Components are a big deal on the electric bike because they take a beating. Also if you are riding technical rocks you will need a dropper so right there is $300 you would have to put in the 17. Also check the front fork, the Carbon comes with the new Revelation (Pike) and it is great. I put on some light weight carbon wheels and Schwalbe Nobby Nic/Rocket Rons and my Levo weighs 45 lbs ready to ride. Love the bike and it does amazing on the rocks! Have fun

rocketman
6 days ago

In the past 18 months I’ve owned two Specialized ebikes...the TurboX and the Vado 5.0
I’ll keep it brief but both models gave me so much grief that the dealer refunded my original purchase price.
Btw...my Specialized dealer was incredible to work with and went to bat for me with Specialized over the continuing issues I was having with both bikes. IMO...without a convenient and supporting Specialized dealer, I’d choose another brand. FWIW, I went with a Bafang mid-Drive kit.

jeffcrilly
7 days ago

Am thinking about getting a Turbo Vado 6.0 for my 12 mile commute which has some elevation changes, but is mostly straight bike lane.

https://www.specialized.com/cw/en/mens-turbo-vado-6-0/p/133868?color=216924-133868

Its kinda spendy, but seems well equipped.
I dont mind spending a few extra $$ to eliminate some hassles (and duct tape).
However, all the custom bits (battery, rear "rack", integrated lights) remind me of vehicle accessories that are tough to fix/replace when they fail.

I've seen a couple reviews on youtube which are great (these were Specialized invite-the-journalists events).
The design looks greate... the only thing it doesnt have is a "throttle" option, which would be nice for my application.

But questions are holding me back:

1) Does anyone know for sure which Brose motors are used in which bikes?
My understanding is there is the older Brose T motor, and the new S motor. Afaict, the S is used in the Specialized Levo.

The confusing part is Specialized refers to the motors as :
All the MTBs?: Specialized 1.3, Rx Trail tuned
Vado 6.0: Specialized 1.2 S, Rx Street Tuned
Vado 5.0: Specialized 1.2, Rx Street Tuned
Vado 3.0: Specialized 1.2, Rx Street Tuned

I've read that the vado 6.0 has the same motor as the Levo, but i wouldnt expect that from reading the product listing.
In fact, no where on the Specialized site do i see a mention of Brose.

2) I have seen anecdotal notes about Brose motor issues (something about a crack, another had water entry issues).
Anyone know if these issues are fixed in the new models?

3) Are there any Vado Turbo 6.0 owners here that can comment on the performance, reliability, and support?

Fwiw, I'm just thinking a "more conventional" ebike with serviceable/upgradable motor/battery parts would be nice once that 2 year warranty runs out.
(Possibly even a hub-drive motor. Which, afaict, would also be less $$.)

thx for any info / suggestions.

-jeff

ROJA
1 week ago

I just completed my longest ride ever (by a good margin). 44 miles! Thanks to @ouglas Ruby and others for the tips and encouragement!

Bike is a 2016 Turbo X (250W) with the 691 Watt hour battery. I was trying to do the full commute from home to work for the first time ever. 44 miles, only about 600 ft of climbing, 15+ miles of dirt/gravel along the way, tons of beautiful and remote shoreline, and at least 8 bridges to cross!

My previous (shorter) rides indicated (using simple math) that Eco40 would not yield sufficient range to make it. I hadn't tried Eco30 and didn't know how much difference that would make.

I started off fully charged in Eco30 and watched the battery consumption and range carefully. At about mile 3, I was at about 96% but I shut the bike off for a train crossing. When I turned it back on, it read 100% again. Weird!

Around mile 9, I was at about 90% or high 80s so I was very happy with the forecasted range. Around miles 16-20, I was tracking somewhere in the expected total range of 70 miles, so I knew I was in great shape. By mile 30, I was still tracking well with 56% left (estimated range of 60 miles with a margin for safety). I wanted to improve my speed a little, so I kicked it up to Eco40 for the last 14 miles. I ticked along at roughly 2% per mile for that last 14 miles, which means that I *might* have been able to make it the whole way in Eco40, but it would have been closer than I'd like for my first attempt. Crossover point where Eco# = trip mileage # was about 38 (i.e., 38% left at 38 miles in). Final battery charge at the end = 28%.

A few things that might have helped with the range:
- used Eco30 for the first 30 miles
- temps were above 50F the entire time (started at about 51 and got a bit warmer as I went)
- much of the ride is open trail with no stops/lights
- I did not bring my usual pannier and instead put everything (incl. laptop) in my Osprey backpack (I did miss the pannier and would like to try it next time)
- I tried to spin more by using one gear lower (easier/larger sprocket) than usual, which also reduced my cruising speed (as did the lower assist level)

A few things that probably used more battery than a perfect scenario:
- I rode a good portion of the way on dirt/gravel paths, which means more friction/rolling resistance than pavement
- There were still some lights/stops
- On the trail sections, I had to slow down for a number of 90-degree turns, bridge access, etc.
- A few small hills but very flat overall (only about 600' total climbing)

Final Stats:
43.92 miles
2:22 moving time
2:29 total time
18.5 mph average speed

For comparison, I did a very similar route on my gravel (non-e) bike last summer and it took me 20 minutes longer and my average speed was 16.5 mph.

ROJA
1 week ago

They sent an email a couple of weeks ago. Try this in case it helps:

[INDENT]Dear Turbo Rider,

As we previously mentioned, we've migrated our usernames and passwords to a new sign-on system in order to provide better security and consistency across Specialized’s website and apps.

Effective immediately, please reset your password for your account.
1. Go to https://specialized.us16.list-manage.com/track/click?u=8df501b016dbc2ea923d9affe&id=80bd062f13&e=bfdc22c886
2. Click “Forgot Your Password?”
3. Enter your Mission Control App email address and click “Submit.”
4. An email will be sent with instructions to reset your password.

If you created an account with a username that is not your email address, your username will now be the email address you are receiving this communication with. We will no longer be supporting usernames that are not an email address, and going forward, you will need to sign-in with your email address as your username and your new password.

Thank you for being a Turbo customer,
The Specialized Team
[/INDENT]

Court
2 weeks ago

Hi Paul, I did some research and actually explored my https://electricbikereview.com/specialized/turbo-vado-6-0/ and discovered that the plug type you might need for your display panel is a Micro-USB. If your iPhone uses a Lightening plug type, then https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074PMMSQR/ref=as_li_ss_tl?ie=UTF8&linkCode=ll1&tag=ebrcta-20&linkId=a3c75562f355ce29bc92b0cdb289d7cc might be what you need! I hope this helps and welcome your feedback.

Thomas Neece
6 months ago

Can you get a front shock for this model?

Christopher Railwah
8 months ago

i bought this bike in 2017 and have been absolutly having a blast commuting to work. thanks for tall the vid court

Eric Gruntfuttock
9 months ago

I'm in the UK with this bike....can i de-limit its speed...?

William Edwards
11 months ago

Could you tell me how i could remove the chip / restricter to allow the bike to go faster

Shawn McGuire
11 months ago

Anyone know where the "secret throttle" that he speaks about is?

Pacific Chief
1 year ago

Can you switch out the forks for suspensions?

Tesla. Paris
1 year ago

Hej Court !
What is this strange sound we hear when you deccelerate every time, like a weird whistling ?
"Working as intended" or a setup/tuning issue ?
Cheers from Stockholm, Sweden.

Pacific Chief
1 year ago

It's the brakes.

Tcho Tcho
1 year ago

I am thinking about purchasing this bike. What is the distance range? I think you did not talk about the range. Or I missed it.
Thank you

Fancy a Bev Mate?
2 years ago

will you be doing the FLR variant review at some point

Eric Leblanc
2 years ago

Just got my Turbo today, Canadian version and top speed is 32KM, anyone know how to unlock it to 45KM or 30 Miles ?

Eric Leblanc
1 year ago

Hey Jesse, really like my turbo, top speed is 45KM or 32Miles, average cruising is around 20 miles per hour, battery is good for about 50 miles or 3 hours of usage, no issue so far.

Jesse McDougall
1 year ago

How about an update on your experience so far. What's the cruising speed, battery life expectations? Any issues so far? Thanks.

Eric Leblanc
2 years ago

+Eric Leblanc 2016 base turbo

Sita van Waarde
2 years ago

Cheap ?? No ! Butt iTS Supergood stuff I hope They keep fabricate Nice bikes in THE future !

Mike Ferrell
2 years ago

Good review - why the big cost multi-thousand dollar difference among the 3 versions? Are they really that different from recreational rider perspective?

James Jacocks
2 years ago

Hi Court. I thought some viewers might be interested in some info on the Turbo X, a similar bike (2015 vintage). Had mine since August 2015 and have put on a several hundred miles, closer to a thousand actually. I get almost exactly 100 miles/charge in 30% boost mode and maybe 45 to 50 miles in 300% boost. That is a lot more than Specialized suggests in their specs. I weigh about 155 lbs. and ride on only moderately sloped terrains. The bike rides fine with power off as well. The guys I ride with are neos and sometimes I just power off entirely to feel like I am doing some work. I have ridden most of the fabulous C & O Canal towpath and the super stealthy bike has given me some great experiences. I do load my bike down with photo equipment generally and often lock out the front suspension so I ride differently than a lot of folks. These are superior electric bikes from my point of view. No equipment issues so far. I bought the bike after testing it but found out about it on EBR, so, thanks!

Evik James
1 year ago

That's helpful. Thanks!

harringtonb2
2 years ago

Does anyone know if this bike the Specialized Turbo base model can hill climb? I am 6 feet and a 190lbs looking for a bike to commute on. My commute has some hills that make me sweat on my normal bike. This looks like an awesome bike but I am worried the smaller wattage motor will not pull me up the hills adequately and I will arrive to work drenched. I appreciate anyone's input.

Byron Sutton
2 years ago

Is the battery and motor warranty for 2 or 3 years?

Byron Sutton
2 years ago

thanks for the follow up

Eric Leblanc
2 years ago

+Byron Sutton 2 years on battery here in Canada.

Lawrence Yan
2 years ago

Is there an updated 2016 Specialized Turbo like how the Turbo S was updated?

bsgnine
2 years ago

did someone say these are coming with stronger motors for 2016?

wazzucoug69
3 years ago
David Macdonald
3 years ago

I think there cost is just getting a bit much . And 800 for a battery . .

Baronial10
3 years ago

Man... I have been watching all of your videos. Love all the videos and your style of reviews! Keep them coming! Subscribed :)