Riese & Müller Nevo GH NuVinci Review

Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Electric Bike Review
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Bosch Performance Line Cx Motor
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Bosch Powerpack 500 Battery
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Bosch Intuvia Lcd Display
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci C8 Grip Twist Ergon Gp1
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Supernova V6s Headlight Sks Fenders
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Cane Creek Thudbuster St
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Selle Royale Nuvola Saddle
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Alloy Rear Rack Bibia Adjustable Straps
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Busch And Muller Toplight Mini Rear Light
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci 4 Amp Bosch Ebike Charger
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Electric Bike Review
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Bosch Performance Line Cx Motor
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Bosch Powerpack 500 Battery
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Bosch Intuvia Lcd Display
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci C8 Grip Twist Ergon Gp1
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Supernova V6s Headlight Sks Fenders
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Cane Creek Thudbuster St
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Selle Royale Nuvola Saddle
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Alloy Rear Rack Bibia Adjustable Straps
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Busch And Muller Toplight Mini Rear Light
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci 4 Amp Bosch Ebike Charger

Summary

  • A heavy-duty version of the standard Nevo with reinforced frame tubing, upgraded stem, handlebar, pedals and a nicer Thudbuster ST suspension seat post, available in two sizes and three colors
  • This electric bike is easy to approach because of the step-thru wave design but doesn't suffer from frame flex or speed wobble compared to many others I have tried, it's rated to handle up to 353 pounds
  • It includes lots of great safety features such as integrated lights, additional plastic reflectors on the front of the fork sliders, and reflective tires so you can be seen from the side, the tires also have puncture protection
  • Heavier, more expensive, and longer wait times to purchase than most competing products, Riese & Müller build each bike to suit and it can take a month or more to arrive in the US, the NuVinci system with belt drive is durable and easy to shift while pedaling or at standstill

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Introduction

Make:

Riese & Müller

Model:

Nevo GH NuVinci

Price:

$4,979

Body Position:

Upright

Suggested Use:

Neighborhood, Urban, Commuting

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

2 Year Comprehensive, 5 Year Frame

Availability:

United States, Australia, New Zealand, United Kingdom, Europe

Model Year:

2018

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

61.6 lbs (27.94 kg)

Battery Weight:

5.8 lbs (2.63 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.8 lbs (3.99 kg)

Frame Material:

Aluminum

Frame Sizes:

18.5 in (46.99 cm)22 in (55.88 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

Large 56 cm Stats: 22.5" Seat Tube, 24" Reach, 17.5" Stand Over Height, 26.5" Width, 75.5" Length

Frame Types:

Step-Thru

Frame Colors:

Midnight Blue Metallic, Racing Red, Gloss White

Frame Fork Details:

SR Suntour XCR32 Air, 70 mm Travel, Compression Clicker with Lockout, Rebound Adjust, 100 mm Hub Spacing, 15 mm Thru Axle with Quick Release

Frame Rear Details:

135 mm Hub Spacing, 10 mm Threaded Axle with Nuts

Attachment Points:

Rear Rack Bosses, Fender Bosses

Gearing Details:

1 Speed 1x∞ NuVinci N380 CVT with 380% Ratio Range, 28T Cog

Shifter Details:

NuVinci C8 Grip Twist on Right

Cranks:

Riese & Müller Branded FSA Alloy 170 mm Crank Arms, 22T Cog for Gates CDX Belt Drive

Pedals:

VP-658 Alloy Platform, Silver, Rubber Tread

Headset:

Acros AZX-220 with BlockLock, Tapered 1-1/8" to 1-1/2"

Stem:

Ergotec High Piranha, Alloy, 110 mm Length, 35° Rise, 31.8 mm Clamp Diameter, Safety Level 6, 20 mm Spacer

Handlebar:

Ergotec Plus XXL, 7050 T6 Aluminum, Low-Rise, 660 mm Length

Brake Details:

Magura MT4 Hydraulic Disc with 180 mm Rotors, Dual-Piston Calipers, Magura MT4 Four-Finger Levers with Adjustable Reach

Grips:

Ergon GP1 Ergonomic, Rubber, Locking

Saddle:

Selle Royale Nuvola, Strengtex, Gel

Seat Post:

Cane Creek Thudbuster ST, Aluminum Alloy, 31.6 mm to 34.9 mm Shim

Seat Post Length:

430 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

31.6 mm

Rims:

Alex MD40, 40 mm Width, Aluminum Alloy, Double Wall, 32 Hole Front, 36 Hole Rear

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 14 Gauge, Silver with Nipples

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Super Moto-X, 27.5" x 2.4" (62-584)

Wheel Sizes:

27.5 in (69.85cm)

Tire Details:

Reflective Sidewall Stripe, 30 to 55 PSI, Performance Line GreenGuard

Tube Details:

Presta Valve

Accessories:

Flick Bell on Right, ABUS Shield 5650 Cafe Lock (Keyed Alike to Battery), SKS B65 Plastic Fenders (65 mm Width), Riese & Müller Alloy Rear Rack with Racktime Compatibility and two Bibia Adjustable Rubber Straps and Child Seat Approved (44 lb Max Weight), Pletscher ESGE Comp 18 Adjustable Kickstand, Plastic Belt Cover, Integrated Supernova E3 E-Bike V6s Headlight (165 Lumens), Integrated Busch & Müller Toplight Mini LED Backlight

Other:

Locking Removable Downtube Mounted Battery Pack, 1.7 lb 4 Amp Charger, Gates CDX Carbon Belt, 160 kg (353 lb) Max Weight (Standard Nevo is Rated to 140 kg or 309 lbs)

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bosch Performance Line CX

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

350 watts

Motor Peak Output:

570 watts

Motor Torque:

75 Newton meters

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

13.4 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

482.4 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

3.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

25 miles (40 km)

Estimated Max Range:

75 miles (121 km)

Display Type:

Bosch Intuvia, Removable, Adjustable Angle, Grayscale, Backlit LCD, (Hold Reset and i for Settings Menu)

Readouts:

Battery Level (1-5), Assist Level (Eco, Tour, EMTB, Turbo), Speed, Odometer, Trip Distance, Clock, Max Speed, Average Speed, Trip Time, Range, Shift Assist Recommendation

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad with Tactile Feedback on Left, 5 Volt 500 mA Micro-USB Port on Display

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Measures Rear Wheel Speed, Pedal Cadence and Pedal Torque, Power Output Relative to Pedal Input: Eco 50% 40 Nm, Tour 120% 50 Nm, Sport 210% 60 Nm, Turbo 300% 75 Nm)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

Riese & Müller produces high-quality, sturdy (often heavier), electric bikes with an emphasis on durability, handling, and comfort. Almost all of their models have front suspension, and many, such as the Delite, have rear suspension as well. With the Nevo concept, they focused on approachability, opting for a deep step-thru or “wave” style frame. This allows riders with sensitive knees and hip joints to step-over the frame more comfortably. The frame tubing is reinforced for strength, to reduce flex as you pedal and turn, and the tapered head tube connects to the main-tubing with additional gusset plating on the GH compared to the standard Nevo. I did not experience instability or front wheel wobble while testing this product, which is impressive! What you get is an approachable but powerful and performant platform that is rated for heavier loads, up to 353 pounds vs. 309 lbs on most of the other R&M ebike models. The bike itself weighs in around 61.6 lbs and is not front or rear heavy, though some of the weight from the battery is positioned higher than on other models (to free up the step-thru area of the frame). Compared to the standard Nevo, the GH is only being produced with the Bosch CX high-torque motor that caps out at 20 mph top speed in the US. It has an upgraded Thudbuster ST seat post suspension vs. the Elegance-LT, sturdier stem and handlebar rated as Ergotec6 (the highest on a 1-6 scale), wider plastic fenders from SKS to provide full coverage for the wider 2.4″ wide Schwalbe tires, and stiffer wider pedals. I was told that the Nevo model has been one of the most popular in the Riese & Müller lineup, and they now sell variations in three frame sizes with two motor options (speed or high-torque) and even three wheel sizes (26″, 27.5″, and 28″). The GH is only available in two sizes (47 cm and 56 cm) with the 27.5″ wheels and NuVinci continuously variable transmission drivetrain, but you can still choose from three colors (red, white, and blue). If you weigh more, seek stability from wider tires, and are okay with the Bosch CX 20 mph motor, then this would be an excellent choice. The 180 mm hydraulic disc brakes provide ample stopping power with adjustable-reach levers and comfortable locking ergonomic grips. The 70 mm suspension fork has wider 34 mm stanchions and interfaces with the front wheel using a 15 mm thru-axle (compared to 9 mm quick release skewers on most bicycles) and since it’s an air fork, you can adjust the pressure for your body weight in addition to locking it out to reduce bob and dive if you mostly ride on flat smooth terrain. Just keep in mind that R&M electric bikes are made to order, and it could take a month or more from the time you commit to buy through a shop to when the actual product arrives and is assembled.

Riding this bike felt comfortable and more upright to me because of the steeper stem and riser handlebars, along with the gel saddle to settle back into. Any cargo that you connect to the rear rack (up to ~44 lbs) will benefit from the higher air volume of these Schwalbe Super Moto-X tires, including a child riding in an aftermarket seat like this. No, it’s not going to be as smooth as a full suspension design like the Homage, but it’s still pretty good. And as a safety nut myself, I love that this electric bike comes stock with sturdy fenders (the rear one is connected to the rack to reduce vibration and noise), a belt and chainring cover, reflective tires, and high-end integrated lights. The headlight has an alloy casing and can be aimed up or down to suit your environment, it delivers 165 lumens which is way above average. The tail light is tucked beneath the rack so it won’t be blocked by trunk bags or a panniers. They really thought this thing out and it shows. I love that the battery pack and display are removable for charging and protection if you park at a public rack, if you were using this bike to commute to work daily as a way to get some exercise and avoid automobile traffic. Since this is a Class 1 product, it should be allowed in more places than ebikes with throttles or higher top speeds, even some dirt trails. The bike is feature rich and the features are very well thought out vs. just slapped on. Perhaps the one complaint I have about accessories is that there are no bottle cage bosses on the seat tube and the fenders, sturdy as they are, do rattle a bit on rough terrain. Note that the headset is using BlockLock to prevent over-steer and frame damage, and the belt drive is from Gates and uses a carbon fiber rubber blend that is very durable and reliable – it won’t fall off easily because there’s a center track design that retains it.

Driving the Nevo is Bosch’s high-torque Performance Line CX mid-motor. It offers up to 75 Newton meters of torque output and is usually reserved for e-mountain bikes. I think it’s a perfect match for a heavy-duty ebike like the Nevo GH, and should peform well even in climbing situations as long as you shift through the CVT gearing appropriately. To help you do this, a little info-graphic shows a person riding a bicycle, and as you twist the shifter, the graphic shows him on flats or on a little hill. The hill represents climbing and makes pedaling easier while slowing the bike down. As a relatively lightweight rider myself, only weighing ~135 lbs, I usually average 35+ miles per charge regardless of the power output I choose (Turbo being the highest power). But heavier riders should expect 25+ depending on how much effort is spent, the terrain, and even factors like wind. One thing that really sets the CX apart in terms of operation, is that it can be (or may already be) updated with the eMTB drive mode. This setting allows you to arrow up from off to Eco, Tour, and then eMTB which provides a wide range of 130% to 300% power output. For riders who may be distracted by shifting gears or steering through traffic, this assist mode de-complicates riding and was developed for mountain bikers who may be intensely focused on terrain conditions. Anyway, this motor has so much to offer… including shift detection (which is not relevant with the NuVinci CVT drivetrain. It measures your rear wheel speed, pedal cadence, and pedal torque over 1,000 times per second to make decisions about how to assist you. One trade-off with all of this power is that you tend to get less range for charge. But Bosch has done their best to increase battery capacity with the Powerpack 500 to address this, and they provide a faster 4 Amp charger with the bike to cut wait times. Another trade-off here is noise, the CX motor whines more when being used in high power settings and when you pedal faster. I love that the motor can still assist you at 120 pedal strokes per minute, while so many competing mid-drives fade out or can only match 100 RPM. This is another design feature that allows you to focus on pedaling vs. shifting. The final complaint is minor, but worth exploring, and that is the proprietary smaller chainring used on all current generation Bosch Performance Line motors. The chainring sprocket spins at 2.5 revolutions for each one of your crank revolutions. So you pedal once, and that chain spins 2.5x, which means that there’s some friction happening in the reduction gearbox. The smaller chainring is good for the motor, providing a mechanical advantage, and it starts and stop very quickly, but if the motor is not on or you’re trying to pedal beyond 20 mph all by yourself, it just adds a bit of extra work. Coming back to the drivetrain, the N380 continuously variable transmission weighs several pounds more than the traditional Shimano Deore 10-speed derailleur+cassette (an option on the standard Nevo models) but won’t require as much maintenance. It can be shifted at standstill and produces less noise because it works with a Gates Carbon CDX belt drive… but in some ways, the quietness of the belt makes the motor sound louder. You can listen for yourself in the video review above.

Powering the motor systems, large backlit display panel, the Micro-USB accessory charger, and the integrated lights on this bike is a ~500 watt hour Lithium-ion Bosch battery pack. The pack is mounted higher up and further forward on this frame than the similar full suspension Homage model, and that should keep it from getting kicked as easily when you mount… but it also positions weight higher and more forward, which isn’t ideal for handling and balance. Still, it handled very well for me, even when riding with no hands. The pack fits neatly into a mount that’s inset into the tubing and is protected at the base by a sheet of black Aluminum alloy. I’m guessing this metal is designed to protect the battery and frame from scratches when people get on and off. Whenever the battery is clicked into the frame, it locks automatically and the sturdy core is provided by Abus, the same company that makes the cafe lock for the rear wheel. Both locks use the same key so you don’t need to cary two different keys around and clutter your keychain. And the battery can be charged on or off the frame by using the same quick charger which weighs ~1.7 lbs and could be tossed into a trunk bag. Bosch makes a slightly smaller, lighter, charger that only puts out 2 Amps vs. 4 Amps, and I’d consider adding that accessory for use in a commuting situation where you charge at work and then again at home (so you don’t have to carry the charger around at all times). The battery pack has a button on the left side that illuminates a 5-LED charge indicator so you can get a basic idea of how full it is, whether it’s on the bike or not. And this is brings up one of the minor complaints I have about the battery and the display unit. Instead of using a battery percentage on the Intuvia display, they just give you those same five bars, which represent 20% increments. And there’s a big difference between 20% and 0%, but you really can’t tell just by looking. Thankfully, the display also has a range estimator readout that is much more precise, and it’s not just measuring your voltage like a lot of cheaper units, it seems to measure Amp flow and stays consistent even when you vary how hard the motor is working.

To use the Range menu on the display, you first have to activate it by pressing the power button at the lower left corner. It boots up very quickly and shows you speed, assist level, and that battery infographic I talked about earlier. From here, you can press the i button on the right side of the display or on the remote button pad (mounted near the left grip). This cycles through trip stats like Odometer, Trip Distance, Average Speed, Max Speed, and Clock. When you get to range, try clicking up and down through the different levels of assist to see that the estimate changes dynamically. It’s based in part on battery capacity, but also how you’ve been riding for the past mile. If a new rider is getting onto the bike, they can hold the reset button on the left side of the display to get fresh estimates for themselves. This is a handy feature and one that sets Bosch apart from others in the space. And I love how intuitive and easy it is to find and use. There’s a new smaller Bosch display called the Purion but it doesn’t offer as many readouts and can be difficult to read and click at times. It’s also not removable… but if you really want that display, some shops can help you switch over to it and that would free up the stem area for mounting a phone, GPS, or other accessory. I guess the main point I want to make with the Intuvia display is that it is easy to approach but still deep, you can change from miles to kilometers by holding reset and i to enter the settings area, and you can even replace the display with a fancy Cobi interface to use your smartphone to run the bike if you want.

I thoroughly enjoyed testing the Nevo GH Nuvinci from Riese & Müller. It delivers high-end performance without sacrificing approachability and comfort, and is now even sturdier to accommodate large riders. Keep in mind that most electric bikes are rated up to ~250 lbs max weight… so ~350+ here is a big deal. Coming back to some of the highlights, I love that you can get the frame in a more masculine blue or white color scheme (white would be the safest at night), that the rims are wider and use 36 spokes at the back (where most of the weight is expressed), that they went with premium Magura brakes vs. heavier and less powerful alternatives, that the headlight offers 165 Lumens and that the grips are locking Ergon vs. something cheaper and less sturdy that could twist. Even the kickstand is well done, it stays out of your way and offers some adjustability in length to make the bike easier to load. Big thanks to Riese & Müller for partnering with me on this review and Chris Nolte at Propel Bikes for inviting me out to do test rides back to back and showcase the original Nevo NuVinci. It really helps to define the strengths and trade-offs for each model. And one final thought on the visual design of the bike… R&M don’t plaster their bikes with logos or get too busy with frame colors. Instead, they seem to choose one primary color and then use black for the supporting tubes to help the cables, seat post, saddle, tires, the fork, and even the motor and battery pack blend in. Well, maybe not the motor and battery pack here, but the point is that all of these accessories are often available in black only, so R&M seems to achieve some fun and style while also calming the clutter and keep the bike appearance “solid” and beautiful. It’s a minor thing, but it can be seen in all of their current models, and I like it.

Pros:

  • Uniquely positioned battery keeps weight relatively centered while freeing up the deep step-thru frame for easy mounting and stand over, the rear rack is left open purely for cargo or a child seat like the Yepp! Nexxt Maxi), but the frame still feels solid and stiff vs. flexy
  • The rear rack appears to be sturdier than aftermarket products even though it’s only officially rated at 44 lbs, you get a frame lock at the base of the rack for quick stops and I love that it uses the same key as the battery so you don’t have to deal with clutter
  • The extra-wide SKS plastic fenders are strong and quiet, they should keep you relatively dry and I like how the front fender extends down further than many more basic accessories
  • The Nevo GH offers a lot of utility and safety, whether you’re riding in wet or dark conditions, the reflective sidewall stripes on the tires and extra plastic strip protectors on the suspension fork lowers along with a high-quality integrated LED headlight with 165 lumens and nicer backlight help you to be seen while also illuminating your path (many cheaper lights just aren’t as bright or mounted as thoughtfully so they are suspended and out of the way), there’s also a little flick bell to help you signal to others in a friendly tone
  • Riese & Müller is known for their thoughtful integration of suspension to improve control and comfort, the Nevo offers a suspension fork with lockout and a nicer Thudbuster ST (short travel) suspension seat post stock, the Selle Royale gel saddle, 45 degree stem, and Ergon ergonomic grips are also nice in this regard
  • The Gates Carbon belt drive will stay cleaner and last longer than a traditional metal chain, this is the sort of belt you might find in your car engine, like a timing belt
  • If you opt for the NuVinci drive system, you won’t have to worry about a derailleur getting bumped or bent in tight situations like racks or if the bike tips over onto the right side, it can also be shifted at standstill which is very handy if you have to stop abruptly or ride on hilly terrain
  • In addition to standard fenders that cover the tires, the Nevo also has a plastic chainring cover with extended chain cover to help protect dresses, skirts, and pants from getting greasy and snagged as you pedal along
  • The Bosch CX motor (which peaks at 20 mph) offers high response time, torque, and ride feel for mountain biking applications, so it’s very capable of dealing with extra weight on this bike, Bosch uses three sensors to measure wheel speed, pedal cadence, and pedal torque 1,000 times per second and offers shift detection to reduce impact on the drivetrain
  • The bike is intentionally minimalist in terms of paint and styling, I believe that they wanted to highlight the main frame and color matched the fork, seat tube, and rack in black to help them blend in with the motor, battery, wheelset, and tires… to me, this is a pro because you still stand out and have a nice color but it’s more timeless and less branded, the frame design is the branding
  • I love that the bike comes in two frame sizes and three color options, this lets you find the perfect fit and make it uniquely yours, the large 22″ frame could work for taller men and is unique in the world of step-thru models which tend to have smaller sizes only or just be too weak for larger riders to enjoy without a lot of frame flex
  • I love the Bosch Intuvia display panel because it’s large and easy to read, has a Micro-USB port on the right side for charging your phone or other accessories, and can be quickly removed when parking outside for extra protection and security
  • The Bosch Powerpack 500 battery is the same dimension as the older and smaller Powerpack 400 but only weighs 0.4 lbs more, and either pack can be mounted to the interface on this bike so you could get a less expensive second pack to go further and maybe put it in a trunk bag on the rack, I like how fast the Bosch charger is, offering 4 Amps vs. just 2 Amps of output on most other chargers
  • The battery is indeed mounted on the downtube but is positioned not so low that it will get kicked frequently when mounting, this should keep it from getting loose or scratched up over time compared to some similar designs like the Riese & Müller Homage
  • The battery is easy to remove, has an integrated handle so you can grip it securely, and uses the same charging interface whether it’s on or off the bike so you don’t need extra adapters, there’s even a 5-LED readout to give you a quick idea of how full it is
  • Sometimes bicycles have kickstands that are mounted too close to the pedal crank arms and they get in the way when backing the bike up (because the cranks automatically turn) but the Nevo has a rear-mount stand that stays out of the way and also offers some height adjustment
  • The front wheel uses a stiff thru-axle, the head tube is tapered for strength, the wheels are large and efficient as well as being wider for stability and comfort at 27.5″ diameter and 2.4″ width vs. just 2″ width on the standard Nevo
  • I don’t have an exact number here, but I’m guessing that this step-thru would be able to handle more rider and cargo weight than a lot of competing ebikes because of the frame design and reinforced wheelset
  • The GH model is heavy-duty and designed to handle more weight (from the rider and cargo combined) up to 353 lbs vs. most of the other R&M models which are rated up to ~309 lbs, most e-bikes I test are only rated to 250 lbs
  • Many times when I test wave style frames, I experience frame flex and even some speed wobble as the front wheel jitters around at different speeds but that was not the case here, you can see this sort of wobble in the video review that I created for the Bulls Cruiser E here
  • Awesome wheel and tire setup, extra wide 40 mm rims from Alexrims, Schwalbe Super Moto-X tires that have GreenGuard puncture protection and reflective stripes on the side to keep you safe (along with the integrated lights)
  • The pedals on the Nevo GH are larger, stiffer, and grippier than those on the standard Nevo which is nice considering that this bike is made for larger, heavier riders, you could always go further and get Magnesium Wellgo pedals with adjustable pins for maximum grip and platform space, but those can scrape your shins up more easily if you do slip off
  • You can press the walk mode button on top of the control panel and then hold + to allow the motor to move the bike forward slowly which is very handy in crowded spaces where you cannot ride or going up hills with a loaded rack, especially when you’ve got a heavier ebike like this

Cons:

  • The NuVinci N380 Nfinity continuously variable transmission (CVT) is neat because it’s clean and can be shifted at standstill, but it does weigh more than a standard cassette and derailleur setup and it also costs more, it can take more hand effort to shift and is slower than a traditional cassette and derailleur
  • At 61.6 lbs, this is one of the heavier electric bikes I have tested (due in part to the 5.6 lb NuVinci CVT rear hub, the traditional 10-speed Shimano XT drivetrain option would be lighter by about 2 lbs), thankfully the 180 mm hydraulic disc brakes from Magura offer great stopping power and have adjustable-reach levers work well for people with smaller hands or those wearing gloves
  • I feel like there is plenty of space on the seat tube for bottle cage bosses, I realize a cage might get in the way of the step-thru frame design, but it could also be used for a folding lock or mini pump, this is a minor grip and you could always get a trunk bag with bottle holster like this or panniers, and this bag has fold out panniers so you can keep them up if you don’t need the space and want to reduce flopping round
  • Riese & Müller bikes are built to order which means you get exactly what you want… but it also takes longer to be in stock, over a month if you’re in the USA
  • I personally love the Thudbuster ST seat post suspension but it does add ~3″ of height to the saddle when lowered as far as possible, so if you’re petite and are having trouble reaching the pedals, consider swapping the stock post with a rigid 31.6 mm seat post like this
  • Bosch Performance Line motors tend to produce a whining noise at high power and high RPM, you can hear it clearly in the video review above, and in some ways it’s more noticeable with the quiet belt drive and NuVinci CVT vs. a traditional chain and cassette
  • The motor spins a smaller sprocket at 2.5 revolutions per single crank arm revolution and this creates some friction which requires extra pedal power when riding without assist or when pedaling beyond the assisted maximum speed, I am told that the upsides are better chain retention, faster response time, and a mechanical advantage for the motor
  • The Nevo GH is only offered with the Bosch CX high-torque motor whereas the standard Nevo can be outfitted with the Performance Line Speed motor

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Riese & Müller Roadster Touring HS Review

  • MSRP: $3,919
  • MODEL YEAR: 2017

A sporty speed-pedelec capable of 28 mph assisted rides, large efficient wheels with hybrid tires that balance comfort with speed and handling, color-matched plastic fenders, three frame colors. Available in three frame sizes for improved fit, 60 mm suspension fork improves comfort and…...

Riese & Müller Packster Touring 80 Review

  • MSRP: $5,149
  • MODEL YEAR: 2017

One of the longest electric cargo bikes on the market (comes in 60 cm or 80 cm), responsive and stable but also comfortable thanks to larger tires and a 50 mm suspension fork up front. Integrated lights run off the main battery pack and the headlight aims where you steer,…...

Riese & Müller Charger Mixte GT Touring HS Review

  • MSRP: $4,799
  • MODEL YEAR: 2017

A mid-step version of the Charger hardtail electric bike from Riese & Müller that's easier to mount and stand over, two frame size choices and two color choices. Mountain bike level hardware including a longer handlebar, tapered headtube, 100 mm air suspension fork…...

Riese & Müller Delite GT NuVinci HS Review

  • MSRP: $6,229
  • MODEL YEAR: 2017

A premium full suspension speed-pedelec that's built to order in Germany then delivered internationally, solid but heavy frame with dual-battery option for increased range. Integrated fenders that don't rattle, suspended rear rack and wired-in headlight and tail light offer…...


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e-boy
3 weeks ago

Please post All-Rounder , 27.5mm,28mph Speed Pedelecs w/Step-Thru and Suspension Fork .

Nevo GT nuvinci HS

Rodney
2 months ago

I've had the Nevo NuVinci for a little over a month. I'm not a prolific rider, but I've put a little over 100 miles on it (almost all of it on my 4-miles-each-way commute). In a word, I think the bike is fantastic. By way of background, I weigh 200 lbs and bought the larger frame with the Performance CX motor (20 mph top speed, 75 N•m of torque). The bike is built like a tank-- there's no flex of any sort that I can detect. The road to work is not in the best shape, lots of dimples, mini-potholes, uneven pavement, etc. I feel very secure going over it even at speed. There are a couple of downhill stretches where I've gotten it up to ~28 mph for several blocks and the thing is stable as can be. Additionally, I take my front wheel off every day at work (it's a Suntour quick release which, as far as I can tell, would require changing out the entire fork, etc. to change to a non-quick release) and it fits true every time I put it back on. No wobble or anything. The only minor gripe I have is that the front fender can scrape against the ground with the wheel removed-- I think mine has gotten very slightly misaligned as a result.

Things to watch out for: nothing, really. I bought it sight unseen, based on the video reviews here and at Citrus Cycles. In fact, I had never ridden any sort of electric bike before I received my bike, not even a test ride. It's a bit of an unusual sensation the first time you pedal with this thing as there's a very slight delay between your pedaling and the motor response. I notice it most at stop signs in Turbo mode when I start to pedal but have to stop for whatever reason, and the motor pulls me along for a split second before it cuts out. I don't think that' unique to this model, I'm sure every Bosch motor has the same issue. Anyway, it's really only noticeable in max assist-- anything less and it's not a problem. If you can stomach the cost, I highly recommend this bike. As best I can tell, it is one of the few bikes out there with: low-step frame; mid-drive motor; battery placed mid-frame. Those three were non-negotiable for me, which is how I came to this bike in the first place.

The one real consideration is how best to lock the bike. Because it's lacking a top tube, that eliminates a lot of options. Of course I use the built-in frame lock every time which should secure the rear wheel, and after a lot of time spent at thebestbikelock.com I decided I wanted the Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Mini (link). However, with no top tube and a very thick down tube, the only place to use that lock is the seat tube. So that's one thing to keep in mind. The other issue is one I mentioned above, the difficult-to-replace quick release front wheel. You can bring it with you, and in fairness it is VERY easy to take off, but who wants to do that all the time? So I also picked up the Abus Bordo 6500 folding lock (link) that I use to lock the front wheel to the frame. With the battery removed, this lock will pass through the front wheel and the down tube; with the battery in place, it's not long enough so you have to fit the lock through the wheel and the gap between the head tube and the suspension fork. It's not the most elegant solution, but it works. In this way, you can secure your front & rear wheels and the bike itself. That's a lot of money to spend on locks, but as a percentage of the cost of the bike, not really.

If it seems like I dwelled on the locks, it's because that's the most important concern about this bike-- making sure I keep it in my possession! Everything else about it just works, and works beautifully. I'd be happy to answer any specific questions you might have.

Rom
2 months ago

I've had the Nevo NuVinci for a little over a month. I'm not a prolific rider, but I've put a little over 100 miles on it (almost all of it on my 4-miles-each-way commute). In a word, I think the bike is fantastic. By way of background, I weigh 200 lbs and bought the larger frame with the Performance CX motor (20 mph top speed, 75 N•m of torque). The bike is built like a tank-- there's no flex of any sort that I can detect. The road to work is not in the best shape, lots of dimples, mini-potholes, uneven pavement, etc. I feel very secure going over it even at speed. There are a couple of downhill stretches where I've gotten it up to ~28 mph for several blocks and the thing is stable as can be. Additionally, I take my front wheel off every day at work (it's a Suntour quick release which, as far as I can tell, would require changing out the entire fork, etc. to change to a non-quick release) and it fits true every time I put it back on. No wobble or anything. The only minor gripe I have is that the front fender can scrape against the ground with the wheel removed-- I think mine has gotten very slightly misaligned as a result.

Things to watch out for: nothing, really. I bought it sight unseen, based on the video reviews here and at Citrus Cycles. In fact, I had never ridden any sort of electric bike before I received my bike, not even a test ride. It's a bit of an unusual sensation the first time you pedal with this thing as there's a very slight delay between your pedaling and the motor response. I notice it most at stop signs in Turbo mode when I start to pedal but have to stop for whatever reason, and the motor pulls me along for a split second before it cuts out. I don't think that' unique to this model, I'm sure every Bosch motor has the same issue. Anyway, it's really only noticeable in max assist-- anything less and it's not a problem. If you can stomach the cost, I highly recommend this bike. As best I can tell, it is one of the few bikes out there with: low-step frame; mid-drive motor; battery placed mid-frame. Those three were non-negotiable for me, which is how I came to this bike in the first place.

The one real consideration is how best to lock the bike. Because it's lacking a top tube, that eliminates a lot of options. Of course I use the built-in frame lock every time which should secure the rear wheel, and after a lot of time spent at thebestbikelock.com I decided I wanted the Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Mini (link). However, with no top tube and a very thick down tube, the only place to use that lock is the seat tube. So that's one thing to keep in mind. The other issue is one I mentioned above, the difficult-to-replace quick release front wheel. You can bring it with you, and in fairness it is VERY easy to take off, but who wants to do that all the time? So I also picked up the Abus Bordo 6500 folding lock (link) that I use to lock the front wheel to the frame. With the battery removed, this lock will pass through the front wheel and the down tube; with the battery in place, it's not long enough so you have to fit the lock through the wheel and the gap between the head tube and the suspension fork. It's not the most elegant solution, but it works. In this way, you can secure your front & rear wheels and the bike itself. That's a lot of money to spend on locks, but as a percentage of the cost of the bike, not really.

If it seems like I dwelled on the locks, it's because that's the most important concern about this bike-- making sure I keep it in my possession! Everything else about it just works, and works beautifully. I'd be happy to answer any specific questions you might have.

Kelly @ CitrusCycles.ca
2 months ago

I'm probably biased since we sell Riese & Muller, but the Nevo is a fantastic eBike. It is one of our top sellers, and one of my personal favourites. Up until recently, my wife had a Nevo, and I think I rode it as much as her, as I really enjoyed it. (She now has the Homage, which in my opinion is the only bike better than a Nevo.)

We haven't had a single problem or complaint, and I've never heard of a speed wobble issue with the Nevo. You can ride it very aggressively if you wish, as the handling is superb.

If it helps, I have a video review here: http://citruscycles.ca/r-m-nevo-step-thru-bosch-ebike

I also just posted a review of the Homage: http://citruscycles.ca/r-m-homage-full-suspension-bosch-ebike

There are a few different models available, but I'm really excited about the Nevo GH Nuvinci, as I love the Super-Moto X tires.

Hopefully my biased opinion helps a bit :-)

Thanks,

Kelly

Leandro
2 months ago

The Riese & Muller Nevo may be worth a look. It is super stable and rigid for a low-step bike. The bike has tons of options including a Nuvinci hub paired with a Gates belt drive, making it super easy to operate and maintain. You can also equip the bike with wider rims and tires for a more stable and comfortable ride; this option will have the moniker "GT". The bike comes standard with an extremely reliable Bosch Performance Line CX mid-drive motor and you can opt to get the Performance Line HS that can top out at 28mph. This bike is built to last upwards of 10+ yrs with exception of the battery, which has an average lifespan of 3-5yrs.

Sonoboy
3 months ago

Thanks for the info. The Roadster urban probably isn't the right bike for me, but I like the aesthetics and am intrigued by the new motor and the electronic shifting Alfine.
Also, thanks for the feedback on the Nuvinci. Maybe I should try it out on a more extensive test ride. The demo Charger and Delite I rode both had derailleurs, but my local dealer has a Nevo with the Nuvinci.
I'm loving the Delite with NuVinci that Chris sold me. As I told him, I feel like a kid again.

510cm
3 months ago

Riese & Müller won't be bringing any Active Plus motor bikes into the US for 2018. They are trying to keep the lineup simple as they work to build up the US market. Keep in mind the Active Plus motor is much different than the CX or the Speed motor found on the other R&M bikes. I do think the Nuvinci is much more robust than the Alfine though.
Thanks for the info. The Roadster urban probably isn't the right bike for me, but I like the aesthetics and am intrigued by the new motor and the electronic shifting Alfine.
Also, thanks for the feedback on the Nuvinci. Maybe I should try it out on a more extensive test ride. The demo Charger and Delite I rode both had derailleurs, but my local dealer has a Nevo with the Nuvinci.

Chris Nolte
3 months ago

Court and I had a visit with the Riese & Müller team at Interbike and Court made a video. Check it out below:

Here is Court’s Synopsis for reference:

For 2018, Riese & Müller is celebrating it’s 25th anniversary by launching a “top of the line” Deluxe Signature model. It’s built around their full suspension, dual-battery, Deluxe model which is designed for touring. It comes stock with two batteries for 1,000 watt hours, integrated metal lights, it uses a carbon handlebar, a Shimano XTR Di2 electronic shifting, and Fox Factory air suspension. This model is priced at $11,000 USD. They built it with all of the top-end components that they would like to have on their own personal bicycles without worrying about spending more, it’s a joint effort by Marcus Riese and Heiko Müller who founded the company, they are physically signing each model with a hand written autograph.

The Homage has also been updated, with a new 27.5” wheel size option with fatter tires. This should bring the frame closer to the ground for lower stand over height and offer some improvements with comfort and stability. This bike will be priced similar to before, maybe $100 more at the $5,899 price point. You can see my original review for the 2017 Homage model at: https://electricbikereview.com/riese-...

From here, we moved to the Packster 40 which is a slightly smaller version of the original Packster which I have reviewed here as the 2017 Packster 80 https://electricbikereview.com/riese-... The new version is shorter but still offers more load capacity than the Riese & Müller Load model which has full suspension. The packster is a bit less expensive as it only has a front suspension fork. One thing that struck me as being unique, was the look-through window on the front of the load that makes steering easier. It aims to be a crossover between a standard bike which is narrow, short, lightweight, and nimble, with a cargo bike that is capable of hauling supplies or a child. It fits one child and they are seated backwards so you can see them and talk with them easier. There’s a dropped area where feet can go and this doubles as a storage area for when you fold the soft seat materials down in. This model comes either with a belt drive and Nuvinci CVT or a standard chain and sprockets. You can get the Bosch CX or Bosch Speed motor here. The Nevo has also been updated with a 27.5” plus tire option, just like the Homage, this improves stability and adds some comfort when riding. You can watch the full Nevo review I did on the 2017 NuVinci model here: https://electricbikereview.com/riese-... they now offer a smaller frame size option at 43 cm which would be great for petite riders, it comes with 26” wheels, so even lower to the ground. Heiko told me that the Nevo was one of their most popular models in 2017. It is easy to approach but can still handle heavy riders up to 353 lbs. It also comes stock with an SR Suntour NCX Suspension seat post to improve comfort as well as a traditional suspension fork.

The Roadster model has also been updated for 2018, having a more integrated battery which seats into the downtube a bit. They now offer a mixte step-thru frame for people who cannot mount the diamond high-step frames as easily. I reviewed the 2017 roadster model at https://electricbikereview.com/riese-... it comes in white, metallic lime green, and matte black colors.

Heiko ended our interview by saying that 2018 looks very good for electric bikes, more people are adopting them (they were common to see at Interbike, very popular this year) and the options are getting better and better. Riese and Muller will be attending the Ebike Expo events around the USA in 2018 so you can go for test rides and there are a number of shops that now carry them including Propel in New York, New Wheel in San Francisco, and Splendid Cycles in Seattle (there are about 15 shops total at the time of this video). Because the models are more expensive, it’s great that they are growing their dealer base in the USA.

You can see some of my previous Riese & Müller ebike coverage at https://electricbikereview.com/brand/... and learn more about the company at their official website: https://www.r-m.de/

I’ll try to update this thread with photos later when I have more time.

scrambler
4 months ago

As mentioned above, not sure why you want so many gears on an E-bike. This is one of the benefits of pedal assist, you can simplify the gearing system.

If you want many gears so you can fine tune your pedal cadence, have a look at bikes using the NuVinci Continuously Variable transmission, it basically gives you an infinite number of gears.
You can twist to any gear ratio within the total 380% range.

You also did not mention if you want a full suspension bike, or hard tail...

Koben (below) has a bike with the Nuvinci N380 and a Carbon belt. It is not step thru, but has a low inclined top tube, and they have a great frame size selection, including 15" and 17".
They are using the Bafang Max motor which has 80 nm of torque and 350W (750W peak)
http://www.karmicbikes.com/shop/koben-s
But no suspension.

Now range wise, it depends on the usage (terrain, level of assist etc...). Most E-Bikes use batteries with a capacity around 500Wh, but what you can do is carry a second battery with you if more range is needed.

Some manufacturer like Riese & Muller offer Dual Battery bikes, like the various Delite models below (full suspension)
https://www.r-m.de/en-us/e-bike/
But their smallest frame height seems to be 19" (49cm), and I am not really sure if that is the seat tube height or something else (worth checking with them)

They do have step thru models like the Nevo (front suspension | hard tail), and you could carry a spare battery with that one.

They have many configurations for each model, including choices of gearing system, from the Continuously variable transmission, to regular derailleur, to even the Rohloff 14 speed Internal Geared Hub on the Delite.

EBR also has a guide with bikes for small people below
https://electricbikereview.com/guides/ebikes-for-small-people/

There is also a European database search where you can search by advanced criteria. Some of the model are also sold in the US, but not all of course
https://www.ebike-base.de/en/

Mark Peralta
4 months ago

Many thanks for all your suggestions:
JayVee - Thanks for the Wallerang suggestion, it looks like a good bike, and I've found a dealer and scheduled a test ride.
Scrambler - Thanks for the NuVinci CVT suggestion. I had not thought of that, but it looks good. I am familiar with Felt as my wife previously rode a Felt road bike and liked it. I'm not familiar with Evelo but will look into it. I also found the Reise & Muller Nevo which uses the NuVinci/Bosch combo and I've scheduled a test ride of it.
IRA - Good suggestion of keeping the weight low by mounting the battery on the downtube rather than the rack. I will let my wife's feedback after test rides determine whether this is a high or low priority.
86 a.s.k. - You're right that a throttle would remove the need to shift much, BUT we've pretty much decided on a mid-drive pedal-assist model. (our recreational road bike group would likely allow a long-term member to keep riding if she was pedaling like everybody else, but I don't think they'd accept somebody just sitting there on what might as well be a motorbike!)
Thanks to all for your help.
Hi, you might want to check out Corratec LIFEBIKE with nuvinci h/sync. You just set the cadence (like 75 RPM) and the bike will automatically sort out the ratio for you, regardless of speed and effort. You don't have to think if you're in the right gear and just focus on the joy of riding.

Here's the full review and info by Court, EBR moderator.
https://electricbikereview.com/corratec/lifebike/

Here's another step through with nuvinci h/sync.

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scrambler
4 months ago

Riese & Muller do have a great selection of bikes with the NuVinci and a Gates Carbon belt. But in the US, for some odd unknown reason, they are not importing the models with the Harmony controller.
So you will have to use the manual shifting. It is still a great system, as it is continuously variable, but not electronically assisted.
The Nevo is a great step thru model.

Dave F.
4 months ago

Many thanks for all your suggestions:
JayVee - Thanks for the Wallerang suggestion, it looks like a good bike, and I've found a dealer and scheduled a test ride.
Scrambler - Thanks for the NuVinci CVT suggestion. I had not thought of that, but it looks good. I am familiar with Felt as my wife previously rode a Felt road bike and liked it. I'm not familiar with Evelo but will look into it. I also found the Reise & Muller Nevo which uses the NuVinci/Bosch combo and I've scheduled a test ride of it.
IRA - Good suggestion of keeping the weight low by mounting the battery on the downtube rather than the rack. I will let my wife's feedback after test rides determine whether this is a high or low priority.
86 a.s.k. - You're right that a throttle would remove the need to shift much, BUT we've pretty much decided on a mid-drive pedal-assist model. (our recreational road bike group would likely allow a long-term member to keep riding if she was pedaling like everybody else, but I don't think they'd accept somebody just sitting there on what might as well be a motorbike!)
Thanks to all for your help.

scrambler
5 months ago

Hi, new here, but long time lurker :)

I am looking into an E-bike for my wife that would ideally have the following characteristics

Integrated Torque / speed / cadence sensor for best of breed PAS
IGH, Ideally a NuVinci CVT, ideally with Harmony
Gates carbon drive belt system
Mid drive with as much power as possible for the steep hills of the SF Bay Area... The Bosch 350W would be a minimum, the new Bafang Max looks interesting with more torque, and the Bafang Max Ultra sounds exciting with 1000W...
Front suspension, plus suspension seat post for light trail riding.

I have a few on my radar (see below), none of which of course fit the complete bill, so I am looking at what it would take to customize one of the almost perfect ones to fit the bill.
One of these customization, would be to replace the rear derailleur and cassette by a NuVinci.

Hence my Question / post title.
Does anyone know of a bike shop in the San Francisco Bay Area that can source and install the NuVinci system on an electric bike?

Thank you for any insights.

PS: For those sharing the same specs interest, here is my current shortlist.
EVELO new Galaxy model (closest to spec at lowest price): Would need to add a suspension fork and seat posts.
FLX Blade (more exciting motor): Would need to Add the new NuVinci 380x, and a Belt drive system
RIESE &MUELLER Nevo (expensive, no throttle ): Would need to add the harmony controller
Other expensive contenders:
FELT versa E10; Cube SUV Hybrid pro 500; BULL Lacuba Evo E8 Wave

Lithotech
9 months ago

Hello Kelly,
I have watched your videos about the Delite is quite the machine. I just Viewed Courts video on The Delite as well this morning. This has been a fun morning for me. I am attending The White Sox home opener in Chicago today. So I have the day off work and have extra time to indulge in some YouTube videos. I also viewed your video on the Riese & Muller Nevo. I enjoyed it so much, I ordered a R&M Nevo Nuvinci HS from Propel. My experience has brought me to the opinion, that if one will utilize an e-bike for several thousand miles annually as a car replacement, that quality really counts and price should be a secondary consideration. Thanks again for the in-depth review and opinion on the Nuvinci CVT gearing, and Bosch drive system. I look forward to seeing and hearing Courts review Of the Nevo, and wish I could attend the Riese and Muller launch party at Propel, on Saturday April 8th so I could test ride the Nevo and meet the engineers. Thanks Again Kelly and Thanks Court for the awesome website and all the excellent reviews that I so enjoy watching.

ofthenorthvt
10 months ago

I live in northern Vermont where we have limited access to full-fledge ebike dealers. I have learned a great deal watching a great many of Court's reviews and reading the discussions. It has been invaluable. Based my local terrain and the solid Bosch reputation, I became convinced that a Bosch ebike made the most sense to me. I scoured the excellent web sites of the New Wheel and Propel Bikes and have had excellent phone advice from Karen at the New Wheel and Chris and Kyle at Propel. Chris has also been very responsive to email correspondence.

I ended up purchasing an Electra townie Go from our local Trek dealer. This allows me to get into ebiking with a Bosch drive, internal gear hub, rack, fenders, lights, and local support. Our locals are quickly coming up to speed on the Bosch-based bikes. Although our coastal friends didn't make a sale (this time), I want to thank them for the tremendous ambassadorship for ebikes they are providing. They provided a foundation of information along with EBR that allowed me to really understand the state of the art and to get into the market where I otherwise would have stayed on the sidelines. I hope that someday my budget will allow me to get back in touch with these guys to special order an awesome Riese & Muller bike (maybe a Nevo Nuvinci high speed) as a future step along my ebike pathway.

Many thanks,

Dennis from Vermont

Genecop Coppola
1 day ago

Nicely done again Court...making NY proud...

Mark Elford
2 days ago

Nice rack, good commuter Ebike.

b b
2 days ago

Court, you should review the greaser ebike by Michael blast!

Colton Jones
2 days ago

Nice i just got one for the wife and i and 4 kids... Not..

Rick
2 days ago

I might have missed this in your awesome video, does this have a throttle Only mode??

Jozef Dobias
1 day ago

no, R&M bikes are done for EU/German market spec, means no throttle to stay in line with regulations of pedal assist.. thats why they call them Pedelec, not a motorbike.

Dmitri Nesteruk
2 days ago

What's your impression of NuVinci compared to Rohloff?

FarcryTheBrave
3 days ago

I missed you!

Josue Chavez
3 days ago

You should do a giveaway :D

Gino Janssen
3 days ago

The bike seems ok to me . But the prise is lil bit steep .. almost even expensive like mine stromer .

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 days ago

Yeah, it seems like most of the R&M models are pricy like this. It's a well made product with nicer components and drive systems but you're paying for the German engineering and custom building along with the name

polok890
3 days ago

if a $5000 bicycle is junk after 10,000 miles, that equals $.50 a mile just for purchase price loss. id a get a great deal on a german haibike on ebay, theyre selling for $1500

Jozef Dobias
1 day ago

interesting not what German bike selling sites say... and every bike is only as good as its owner. I know guys with 70s race frames riding sportives.. and I know a guy who bought a €150 Tesco bike and binned it in 2 months.

polok890
3 days ago

id be most worried about ovaled bearing races, especailly on the crank and if the motor could be rebuilt/refreshed

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 days ago

Interesting calculation, I'm not sure how many miles these bikes could go before they were truly junk, most of the wearable hardware is replaceable and I have been told that Bosch plans to support and sell Powerpacks for 10+ years. The frame should last and these motors are known for being very durable and reliable. Similar calculations can be done for automobiles but they tend to require even more expensive maintenance, servicing, and the fuel is more costly

ForbinColossus
3 days ago

@17:14 Court I know you say "I like to spin" Is it possible for you to 'tag' your camera footage with a running number to display your pedaling rpm?

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 days ago

Great suggestion, I have tried to include that data in the monitor stats on some of my "let's ride" videos. It's not easy to do when filming multiple bikes and traveling, but I'll try to work it in more often in the future :)

kawikaphotography
3 days ago

Thanks for the video. I'm glad they're serving bigger riders but sheesh, I thought my Large Road-e at 44lbs was heavy. I wonder if the rear rack rating is because the bike could have a bigger rider.

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 days ago

Yeah, most electric bikes I see that have fenders, racks, lights etc. weigh at least 50 lbs, most are 55+ so this one at 62 is on target given the really thick main tube that is designed for stiffness. And as for the rear rack rating, I'm not sure why it's rated lower, I think it's just their design and maybe they are estimating more conservatively?

pj520
3 days ago

$5000.00 for a bike with rattily fenders, a tail light you can barely see and no BRAKE light, no thanks!

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 days ago

The fenders were louder than I expected... but that was a very bumpy stretch of road :D I think lots of fenders would rattle there and they had to choose extra wide ones to cover the big tires. Yeah, the backlight could be brighter, but most of the things on this bike are setup very well in my opinion :)

Ddr Hazy
3 days ago

The belt looks really sturdy. Motor sounds good. Small battery, small motor and overpriced.

Jozef Dobias
1 day ago

was just gonna say the same :D :D until some other company comes to market with such high quality and customer service as Bosch there isn't a comparison really.. 'numbers over quality' isn't what Germans do. Well apart from VW :D

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 days ago

These motors are surprisingly powerful if you shift, but there are indeed more powerful options out there from Bafang. I appreciate how this one will be easier on the drivetrain and has a good reputation for durability. The battery capacity is above average for consumer ebikes, but 500 watt hours is becoming the norm, at least it's lighter weight and easy to replace. I wish I could have had a really large friend ride it to show how it performs with more weight. I think it could do very well based on the mountain biking I've done with the Bosch CX over the past year

extra time
3 days ago

which type of ebikes are legal in nyc for 2018?

extra time
2 days ago

ok so that means that class 3 ebikes are legal with not throttle? thank you so much for the answer and time guys.

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 days ago

I think kawikaphotography is correct, Class 1 pedelecs are allowed. I had a conversation with Chris from Propel about this (since his shop is in Broklyn) and you can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idZ5-4FZpTc&t=1s

kawikaphotography
3 days ago

According to GCN, pedelecs are okay. It's the ones that have a throttle that are banned. https://youtu.be/iA927OgEcQw?t=7m15s

ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
3 days ago

How does this compare to the Evelo bikes? R&M is premium priced, but is it value for money? Did that Thudbuster make much difference?

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 days ago

Oh yeah, I'm a huge fan of the Thudbuster, Bodyfloat, and SR Suntour NXC suspension posts... and you can get any of them for under $200 to add to any ebike (though you might also need a shim adapter for wider or uniquely sized seat tubes). I think the higher price on this product is about the German engineering, quality, and a bit about the brand. It does use nice parts throughout and the frame is completely custom and balanced. Evelo does make some nicer products lately and has some good prices too. It's all good :)

Aaron Kuehn
3 days ago

It looks like that bike has a rear hub motor and a mid drive. True?

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 days ago

Hi Aaron, good observation! This model actually uses a hub style gearing system called a continuously variable transmission (from NuVinci). Sometimes people call this a CVT and you can learn more about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN8CCY1vFC8 so no, there's only one mid-motor and the rear hub is actually for changing gears to change pedal speeds and make climbing easier. It also uses a belt drive instead of a chain like other bikes.

kevin delporte
3 days ago

What do you prefer ? Derailer or nuvinci ?

Chris at Propel
2 days ago

The Nuvinci is most popular for us, but some like the slightly more sporty feel of the derailleur. Having the belt is super nice and only available on the Nuvinci version.

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 days ago

It depends on the application for me, a bike like this is perfect for NuVinci because the extra weight isn't an issue, the CVT shifts slower but can shift anytime which is nice at stops. I mostly ride lightweight mountain bikes with full suspension because I have a sensitive neck and back... and I always get derailleurs for those. I prefer NuVinci to some of the cheaper internally geared hubs.

ceebeedf
3 days ago

Yes GH models go up to 160kg max load, 20kg more than the standard range.

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 days ago

Nice, thanks for the input!