Riese & Müller Nevo GH NuVinci Review

Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Electric Bike Review
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Bosch Performance Line Cx Motor
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Bosch Powerpack 500 Battery
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Bosch Intuvia Lcd Display
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci C8 Grip Twist Ergon Gp1
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Supernova V6s Headlight Sks Fenders
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Cane Creek Thudbuster St
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Selle Royale Nuvola Saddle
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Alloy Rear Rack Bibia Adjustable Straps
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Busch And Muller Toplight Mini Rear Light
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci 4 Amp Bosch Ebike Charger
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Electric Bike Review
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Bosch Performance Line Cx Motor
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Bosch Powerpack 500 Battery
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Bosch Intuvia Lcd Display
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci C8 Grip Twist Ergon Gp1
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Supernova V6s Headlight Sks Fenders
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Cane Creek Thudbuster St
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Selle Royale Nuvola Saddle
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Alloy Rear Rack Bibia Adjustable Straps
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci Busch And Muller Toplight Mini Rear Light
Riese Muller Nevo Gh Nuvinci 4 Amp Bosch Ebike Charger

Summary

  • A heavy-duty version of the standard Nevo with reinforced frame tubing, upgraded stem, handlebar, pedals and a nicer Thudbuster ST suspension seat post, available in two sizes and three colors
  • This electric bike is easy to approach because of the step-thru wave design but doesn't suffer from frame flex or speed wobble compared to many others I have tried, it's rated to handle up to 353 pounds
  • It includes lots of great safety features such as integrated lights, additional plastic reflectors on the front of the fork sliders, and reflective tires so you can be seen from the side, the tires also have puncture protection
  • Heavier, more expensive, and longer wait times to purchase than most competing products, Riese & Müller build each bike to suit and it can take a month or more to arrive in the US, the NuVinci system with belt drive is durable and easy to shift while pedaling or at standstill

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Introduction

Make:

Riese & Müller

Model:

Nevo GH NuVinci

Price:

$4,979

Body Position:

Upright

Suggested Use:

Neighborhood, Urban, Commuting

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

2 Year Comprehensive, 5 Year Frame

Availability:

United States, Australia, New Zealand, United Kingdom, Europe

Model Year:

2018

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

61.6 lbs (27.94 kg)

Battery Weight:

5.8 lbs (2.63 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.8 lbs (3.99 kg)

Frame Material:

Aluminum

Frame Sizes:

18.5 in (46.99 cm)22 in (55.88 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

Large 56 cm Stats: 22.5" Seat Tube, 24" Reach, 17.5" Stand Over Height, 26.5" Width, 75.5" Length

Frame Types:

Step-Thru

Frame Colors:

Midnight Blue Metallic, Racing Red, Gloss White

Frame Fork Details:

SR Suntour XCR32 Air, 70 mm Travel, Compression Clicker with Lockout, Rebound Adjust, 100 mm Hub Spacing, 15 mm Thru Axle with Quick Release

Frame Rear Details:

135 mm Hub Spacing, 10 mm Threaded Axle with Nuts

Attachment Points:

Rear Rack Bosses, Fender Bosses

Gearing Details:

1 Speed 1x∞ NuVinci N380 CVT with 380% Ratio Range, 28T Cog

Shifter Details:

NuVinci C8 Grip Twist on Right

Cranks:

Riese & Müller Branded FSA Alloy 170 mm Crank Arms, 22T Cog for Gates CDX Belt Drive

Pedals:

VP-658 Alloy Platform, Silver, Rubber Tread

Headset:

Acros AZX-220 with BlockLock, Tapered 1-1/8" to 1-1/2"

Stem:

Ergotec High Piranha, Alloy, 110 mm Length, 35° Rise, 31.8 mm Clamp Diameter, Safety Level 6, 20 mm Spacer

Handlebar:

Ergotec Plus XXL, 7050 T6 Aluminum, Low-Rise, 660 mm Length

Brake Details:

Magura MT4 Hydraulic Disc with 180 mm Rotors, Dual-Piston Calipers, Magura MT4 Four-Finger Levers with Adjustable Reach

Grips:

Ergon GP1 Ergonomic, Rubber, Locking

Saddle:

Selle Royale Nuvola, Strengtex, Gel

Seat Post:

Cane Creek Thudbuster ST, Aluminum Alloy, 31.6 mm to 34.9 mm Shim

Seat Post Length:

430 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

31.6 mm

Rims:

Alex MD40, 40 mm Width, Aluminum Alloy, Double Wall, 32 Hole Front, 36 Hole Rear

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 14 Gauge, Silver with Nipples

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Super Moto-X, 27.5" x 2.4" (62-584)

Wheel Sizes:

27.5 in (69.85cm)

Tire Details:

Reflective Sidewall Stripe, 30 to 55 PSI, Performance Line GreenGuard

Tube Details:

Presta Valve

Accessories:

Flick Bell on Right, ABUS Shield 5650 Cafe Lock (Keyed Alike to Battery), SKS B65 Plastic Fenders (65 mm Width), Riese & Müller Alloy Rear Rack with Racktime Compatibility and two Bibia Adjustable Rubber Straps and Child Seat Approved (44 lb Max Weight), Pletscher ESGE Comp 18 Adjustable Kickstand, Plastic Belt Cover, Integrated Supernova E3 E-Bike V6s Headlight (165 Lumens), Integrated Busch & Müller Toplight Mini LED Backlight

Other:

Locking Removable Downtube Mounted Battery Pack, 1.7 lb 4 Amp Charger, Gates CDX Carbon Belt, 160 kg (353 lb) Max Weight (Standard Nevo is Rated to 140 kg or 309 lbs)

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bosch Performance Line CX

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

350 watts

Motor Peak Output:

570 watts

Motor Torque:

75 Newton meters

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

13.4 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

482.4 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

3.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

25 miles (40 km)

Estimated Max Range:

75 miles (121 km)

Display Type:

Bosch Intuvia, Removable, Adjustable Angle, Grayscale, Backlit LCD, (Hold Reset and i for Settings Menu)

Readouts:

Battery Level (1-5), Assist Level (Eco, Tour, EMTB, Turbo), Speed, Odometer, Trip Distance, Clock, Max Speed, Average Speed, Trip Time, Range, Shift Assist Recommendation

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad with Tactile Feedback on Left, 5 Volt 500 mA Micro-USB Port on Display

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Measures Rear Wheel Speed, Pedal Cadence and Pedal Torque, Power Output Relative to Pedal Input: Eco 50% 40 Nm, Tour 120% 50 Nm, Sport 210% 60 Nm, Turbo 300% 75 Nm)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

Riese & Müller produces high-quality, sturdy (often heavier), electric bikes with an emphasis on durability, handling, and comfort. Almost all of their models have front suspension, and many, such as the Delite, have rear suspension as well. With the Nevo concept, they focused on approachability, opting for a deep step-thru or “wave” style frame. This allows riders with sensitive knees and hip joints to step-over the frame more comfortably. The frame tubing is reinforced for strength, to reduce flex as you pedal and turn, and the tapered head tube connects to the main-tubing with additional gusset plating on the GH compared to the standard Nevo. I did not experience instability or front wheel wobble while testing this product, which is impressive! What you get is an approachable but powerful and performant platform that is rated for heavier loads, up to 353 pounds vs. 309 lbs on most of the other R&M ebike models. The bike itself weighs in around 61.6 lbs and is not front or rear heavy, though some of the weight from the battery is positioned higher than on other models (to free up the step-thru area of the frame). Compared to the standard Nevo, the GH is only being produced with the Bosch CX high-torque motor that caps out at 20 mph top speed in the US. It has an upgraded Thudbuster ST seat post suspension vs. the Elegance-LT, sturdier stem and handlebar rated as Ergotec6 (the highest on a 1-6 scale), wider plastic fenders from SKS to provide full coverage for the wider 2.4″ wide Schwalbe tires, and stiffer wider pedals. I was told that the Nevo model has been one of the most popular in the Riese & Müller lineup, and they now sell variations in three frame sizes with two motor options (speed or high-torque) and even three wheel sizes (26″, 27.5″, and 28″). The GH is only available in two sizes (47 cm and 56 cm) with the 27.5″ wheels and NuVinci continuously variable transmission drivetrain, but you can still choose from three colors (red, white, and blue). If you weigh more, seek stability from wider tires, and are okay with the Bosch CX 20 mph motor, then this would be an excellent choice. The 180 mm hydraulic disc brakes provide ample stopping power with adjustable-reach levers and comfortable locking ergonomic grips. The 70 mm suspension fork has wider 34 mm stanchions and interfaces with the front wheel using a 15 mm thru-axle (compared to 9 mm quick release skewers on most bicycles) and since it’s an air fork, you can adjust the pressure for your body weight in addition to locking it out to reduce bob and dive if you mostly ride on flat smooth terrain. Just keep in mind that R&M electric bikes are made to order, and it could take a month or more from the time you commit to buy through a shop to when the actual product arrives and is assembled.

Riding this bike felt comfortable and more upright to me because of the steeper stem and riser handlebars, along with the gel saddle to settle back into. Any cargo that you connect to the rear rack (up to ~44 lbs) will benefit from the higher air volume of these Schwalbe Super Moto-X tires, including a child riding in an aftermarket seat like this. No, it’s not going to be as smooth as a full suspension design like the Homage, but it’s still pretty good. And as a safety nut myself, I love that this electric bike comes stock with sturdy fenders (the rear one is connected to the rack to reduce vibration and noise), a belt and chainring cover, reflective tires, and high-end integrated lights. The headlight has an alloy casing and can be aimed up or down to suit your environment, it delivers 165 lumens which is way above average. The tail light is tucked beneath the rack so it won’t be blocked by trunk bags or a panniers. They really thought this thing out and it shows. I love that the battery pack and display are removable for charging and protection if you park at a public rack, if you were using this bike to commute to work daily as a way to get some exercise and avoid automobile traffic. Since this is a Class 1 product, it should be allowed in more places than ebikes with throttles or higher top speeds, even some dirt trails. The bike is feature rich and the features are very well thought out vs. just slapped on. Perhaps the one complaint I have about accessories is that there are no bottle cage bosses on the seat tube and the fenders, sturdy as they are, do rattle a bit on rough terrain. Note that the headset is using BlockLock to prevent over-steer and frame damage, and the belt drive is from Gates and uses a carbon fiber rubber blend that is very durable and reliable – it won’t fall off easily because there’s a center track design that retains it.

Driving the Nevo is Bosch’s high-torque Performance Line CX mid-motor. It offers up to 75 Newton meters of torque output and is usually reserved for e-mountain bikes. I think it’s a perfect match for a heavy-duty ebike like the Nevo GH, and should peform well even in climbing situations as long as you shift through the CVT gearing appropriately. To help you do this, a little info-graphic shows a person riding a bicycle, and as you twist the shifter, the graphic shows him on flats or on a little hill. The hill represents climbing and makes pedaling easier while slowing the bike down. As a relatively lightweight rider myself, only weighing ~135 lbs, I usually average 35+ miles per charge regardless of the power output I choose (Turbo being the highest power). But heavier riders should expect 25+ depending on how much effort is spent, the terrain, and even factors like wind. One thing that really sets the CX apart in terms of operation, is that it can be (or may already be) updated with the eMTB drive mode. This setting allows you to arrow up from off to Eco, Tour, and then eMTB which provides a wide range of 130% to 300% power output. For riders who may be distracted by shifting gears or steering through traffic, this assist mode de-complicates riding and was developed for mountain bikers who may be intensely focused on terrain conditions. Anyway, this motor has so much to offer… including shift detection (which is not relevant with the NuVinci CVT drivetrain. It measures your rear wheel speed, pedal cadence, and pedal torque over 1,000 times per second to make decisions about how to assist you. One trade-off with all of this power is that you tend to get less range for charge. But Bosch has done their best to increase battery capacity with the Powerpack 500 to address this, and they provide a faster 4 Amp charger with the bike to cut wait times. Another trade-off here is noise, the CX motor whines more when being used in high power settings and when you pedal faster. I love that the motor can still assist you at 120 pedal strokes per minute, while so many competing mid-drives fade out or can only match 100 RPM. This is another design feature that allows you to focus on pedaling vs. shifting. The final complaint is minor, but worth exploring, and that is the proprietary smaller chainring used on all current generation Bosch Performance Line motors. The chainring sprocket spins at 2.5 revolutions for each one of your crank revolutions. So you pedal once, and that chain spins 2.5x, which means that there’s some friction happening in the reduction gearbox. The smaller chainring is good for the motor, providing a mechanical advantage, and it starts and stop very quickly, but if the motor is not on or you’re trying to pedal beyond 20 mph all by yourself, it just adds a bit of extra work. Coming back to the drivetrain, the N380 continuously variable transmission weighs several pounds more than the traditional Shimano Deore 10-speed derailleur+cassette (an option on the standard Nevo models) but won’t require as much maintenance. It can be shifted at standstill and produces less noise because it works with a Gates Carbon CDX belt drive… but in some ways, the quietness of the belt makes the motor sound louder. You can listen for yourself in the video review above.

Powering the motor systems, large backlit display panel, the Micro-USB accessory charger, and the integrated lights on this bike is a ~500 watt hour Lithium-ion Bosch battery pack. The pack is mounted higher up and further forward on this frame than the similar full suspension Homage model, and that should keep it from getting kicked as easily when you mount… but it also positions weight higher and more forward, which isn’t ideal for handling and balance. Still, it handled very well for me, even when riding with no hands. The pack fits neatly into a mount that’s inset into the tubing and is protected at the base by a sheet of black Aluminum alloy. I’m guessing this metal is designed to protect the battery and frame from scratches when people get on and off. Whenever the battery is clicked into the frame, it locks automatically and the sturdy core is provided by Abus, the same company that makes the cafe lock for the rear wheel. Both locks use the same key so you don’t need to cary two different keys around and clutter your keychain. And the battery can be charged on or off the frame by using the same quick charger which weighs ~1.7 lbs and could be tossed into a trunk bag. Bosch makes a slightly smaller, lighter, charger that only puts out 2 Amps vs. 4 Amps, and I’d consider adding that accessory for use in a commuting situation where you charge at work and then again at home (so you don’t have to carry the charger around at all times). The battery pack has a button on the left side that illuminates a 5-LED charge indicator so you can get a basic idea of how full it is, whether it’s on the bike or not. And this is brings up one of the minor complaints I have about the battery and the display unit. Instead of using a battery percentage on the Intuvia display, they just give you those same five bars, which represent 20% increments. And there’s a big difference between 20% and 0%, but you really can’t tell just by looking. Thankfully, the display also has a range estimator readout that is much more precise, and it’s not just measuring your voltage like a lot of cheaper units, it seems to measure Amp flow and stays consistent even when you vary how hard the motor is working.

To use the Range menu on the display, you first have to activate it by pressing the power button at the lower left corner. It boots up very quickly and shows you speed, assist level, and that battery infographic I talked about earlier. From here, you can press the i button on the right side of the display or on the remote button pad (mounted near the left grip). This cycles through trip stats like Odometer, Trip Distance, Average Speed, Max Speed, and Clock. When you get to range, try clicking up and down through the different levels of assist to see that the estimate changes dynamically. It’s based in part on battery capacity, but also how you’ve been riding for the past mile. If a new rider is getting onto the bike, they can hold the reset button on the left side of the display to get fresh estimates for themselves. This is a handy feature and one that sets Bosch apart from others in the space. And I love how intuitive and easy it is to find and use. There’s a new smaller Bosch display called the Purion but it doesn’t offer as many readouts and can be difficult to read and click at times. It’s also not removable… but if you really want that display, some shops can help you switch over to it and that would free up the stem area for mounting a phone, GPS, or other accessory. I guess the main point I want to make with the Intuvia display is that it is easy to approach but still deep, you can change from miles to kilometers by holding reset and i to enter the settings area, and you can even replace the display with a fancy Cobi interface to use your smartphone to run the bike if you want.

I thoroughly enjoyed testing the Nevo GH Nuvinci from Riese & Müller. It delivers high-end performance without sacrificing approachability and comfort, and is now even sturdier to accommodate large riders. Keep in mind that most electric bikes are rated up to ~250 lbs max weight… so ~350+ here is a big deal. Coming back to some of the highlights, I love that you can get the frame in a more masculine blue or white color scheme (white would be the safest at night), that the rims are wider and use 36 spokes at the back (where most of the weight is expressed), that they went with premium Magura brakes vs. heavier and less powerful alternatives, that the headlight offers 165 Lumens and that the grips are locking Ergon vs. something cheaper and less sturdy that could twist. Even the kickstand is well done, it stays out of your way and offers some adjustability in length to make the bike easier to load. Big thanks to Riese & Müller for partnering with me on this review and Chris Nolte at Propel Bikes for inviting me out to do test rides back to back and showcase the original Nevo NuVinci. It really helps to define the strengths and trade-offs for each model. And one final thought on the visual design of the bike… R&M don’t plaster their bikes with logos or get too busy with frame colors. Instead, they seem to choose one primary color and then use black for the supporting tubes to help the cables, seat post, saddle, tires, the fork, and even the motor and battery pack blend in. Well, maybe not the motor and battery pack here, but the point is that all of these accessories are often available in black only, so R&M seems to achieve some fun and style while also calming the clutter and keep the bike appearance “solid” and beautiful. It’s a minor thing, but it can be seen in all of their current models, and I like it.

Pros:

  • Uniquely positioned battery keeps weight relatively centered while freeing up the deep step-thru frame for easy mounting and stand over, the rear rack is left open purely for cargo or a child seat like the Yepp! Nexxt Maxi), but the frame still feels solid and stiff vs. flexy
  • The rear rack appears to be sturdier than aftermarket products even though it’s only officially rated at 44 lbs, you get a frame lock at the base of the rack for quick stops and I love that it uses the same key as the battery so you don’t have to deal with clutter
  • The extra-wide SKS plastic fenders are strong and quiet, they should keep you relatively dry and I like how the front fender extends down further than many more basic accessories
  • The Nevo GH offers a lot of utility and safety, whether you’re riding in wet or dark conditions, the reflective sidewall stripes on the tires and extra plastic strip protectors on the suspension fork lowers along with a high-quality integrated LED headlight with 165 lumens and nicer backlight help you to be seen while also illuminating your path (many cheaper lights just aren’t as bright or mounted as thoughtfully so they are suspended and out of the way), there’s also a little flick bell to help you signal to others in a friendly tone
  • Riese & Müller is known for their thoughtful integration of suspension to improve control and comfort, the Nevo offers a suspension fork with lockout and a nicer Thudbuster ST (short travel) suspension seat post stock, the Selle Royale gel saddle, 45 degree stem, and Ergon ergonomic grips are also nice in this regard
  • The Gates Carbon belt drive will stay cleaner and last longer than a traditional metal chain, this is the sort of belt you might find in your car engine, like a timing belt
  • If you opt for the NuVinci drive system, you won’t have to worry about a derailleur getting bumped or bent in tight situations like racks or if the bike tips over onto the right side, it can also be shifted at standstill which is very handy if you have to stop abruptly or ride on hilly terrain
  • In addition to standard fenders that cover the tires, the Nevo also has a plastic chainring cover with extended chain cover to help protect dresses, skirts, and pants from getting greasy and snagged as you pedal along
  • The Bosch CX motor (which peaks at 20 mph) offers high response time, torque, and ride feel for mountain biking applications, so it’s very capable of dealing with extra weight on this bike, Bosch uses three sensors to measure wheel speed, pedal cadence, and pedal torque 1,000 times per second and offers shift detection to reduce impact on the drivetrain
  • The bike is intentionally minimalist in terms of paint and styling, I believe that they wanted to highlight the main frame and color matched the fork, seat tube, and rack in black to help them blend in with the motor, battery, wheelset, and tires… to me, this is a pro because you still stand out and have a nice color but it’s more timeless and less branded, the frame design is the branding
  • I love that the bike comes in two frame sizes and three color options, this lets you find the perfect fit and make it uniquely yours, the large 22″ frame could work for taller men and is unique in the world of step-thru models which tend to have smaller sizes only or just be too weak for larger riders to enjoy without a lot of frame flex
  • I love the Bosch Intuvia display panel because it’s large and easy to read, has a Micro-USB port on the right side for charging your phone or other accessories, and can be quickly removed when parking outside for extra protection and security
  • The Bosch Powerpack 500 battery is the same dimension as the older and smaller Powerpack 400 but only weighs 0.4 lbs more, and either pack can be mounted to the interface on this bike so you could get a less expensive second pack to go further and maybe put it in a trunk bag on the rack, I like how fast the Bosch charger is, offering 4 Amps vs. just 2 Amps of output on most other chargers
  • The battery is indeed mounted on the downtube but is positioned not so low that it will get kicked frequently when mounting, this should keep it from getting loose or scratched up over time compared to some similar designs like the Riese & Müller Homage
  • The battery is easy to remove, has an integrated handle so you can grip it securely, and uses the same charging interface whether it’s on or off the bike so you don’t need extra adapters, there’s even a 5-LED readout to give you a quick idea of how full it is
  • Sometimes bicycles have kickstands that are mounted too close to the pedal crank arms and they get in the way when backing the bike up (because the cranks automatically turn) but the Nevo has a rear-mount stand that stays out of the way and also offers some height adjustment
  • The front wheel uses a stiff thru-axle, the head tube is tapered for strength, the wheels are large and efficient as well as being wider for stability and comfort at 27.5″ diameter and 2.4″ width vs. just 2″ width on the standard Nevo
  • I don’t have an exact number here, but I’m guessing that this step-thru would be able to handle more rider and cargo weight than a lot of competing ebikes because of the frame design and reinforced wheelset
  • The GH model is heavy-duty and designed to handle more weight (from the rider and cargo combined) up to 353 lbs vs. most of the other R&M models which are rated up to ~309 lbs, most e-bikes I test are only rated to 250 lbs
  • Many times when I test wave style frames, I experience frame flex and even some speed wobble as the front wheel jitters around at different speeds but that was not the case here, you can see this sort of wobble in the video review that I created for the Bulls Cruiser E here
  • Awesome wheel and tire setup, extra wide 40 mm rims from Alexrims, Schwalbe Super Moto-X tires that have GreenGuard puncture protection and reflective stripes on the side to keep you safe (along with the integrated lights)
  • The pedals on the Nevo GH are larger, stiffer, and grippier than those on the standard Nevo which is nice considering that this bike is made for larger, heavier riders, you could always go further and get Magnesium Wellgo pedals with adjustable pins for maximum grip and platform space, but those can scrape your shins up more easily if you do slip off
  • You can press the walk mode button on top of the control panel and then hold + to allow the motor to move the bike forward slowly which is very handy in crowded spaces where you cannot ride or going up hills with a loaded rack, especially when you’ve got a heavier ebike like this

Cons:

  • The NuVinci N380 Nfinity continuously variable transmission (CVT) is neat because it’s clean and can be shifted at standstill, but it does weigh more than a standard cassette and derailleur setup and it also costs more, it can take more hand effort to shift and is slower than a traditional cassette and derailleur
  • At 61.6 lbs, this is one of the heavier electric bikes I have tested (due in part to the 5.6 lb NuVinci CVT rear hub, the traditional 10-speed Shimano XT drivetrain option would be lighter by about 2 lbs), thankfully the 180 mm hydraulic disc brakes from Magura offer great stopping power and have adjustable-reach levers work well for people with smaller hands or those wearing gloves
  • I feel like there is plenty of space on the seat tube for bottle cage bosses, I realize a cage might get in the way of the step-thru frame design, but it could also be used for a folding lock or mini pump, this is a minor grip and you could always get a trunk bag with bottle holster like this or panniers, and this bag has fold out panniers so you can keep them up if you don’t need the space and want to reduce flopping round
  • Riese & Müller bikes are built to order which means you get exactly what you want… but it also takes longer to be in stock, over a month if you’re in the USA
  • I personally love the Thudbuster ST seat post suspension but it does add ~3″ of height to the saddle when lowered as far as possible, so if you’re petite and are having trouble reaching the pedals, consider swapping the stock post with a rigid 31.6 mm seat post like this
  • Bosch Performance Line motors tend to produce a whining noise at high power and high RPM, you can hear it clearly in the video review above, and in some ways it’s more noticeable with the quiet belt drive and NuVinci CVT vs. a traditional chain and cassette
  • The motor spins a smaller sprocket at 2.5 revolutions per single crank arm revolution and this creates some friction which requires extra pedal power when riding without assist or when pedaling beyond the assisted maximum speed, I am told that the upsides are better chain retention, faster response time, and a mechanical advantage for the motor
  • The Nevo GH is only offered with the Bosch CX high-torque motor whereas the standard Nevo can be outfitted with the Performance Line Speed motor

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Ravi Kempaiah
5 hours ago

Range - weight - price are all interconnected.

For longer range (50 miles), ideally, you would want 750+Whr battery, but then it creases the weight substantially.
If you could get a ~40lbs E-bike, then with 500whr battery + fair bit if your own power, you could get 50 miles.

If you are 6ft+ in height, I would strongly recommend you to get this one. They will ship the bike to your nearest dealer and for the money, it's a absolutely great value. it has top of the line DT Swiss wheels, just a great bike overall.

https://www.haibikeusa.com/sale/2016-xudro-race-s-rx.html

Most importantly, it tips the scale at 42lbs and with the aero riding position, you should get 40+ miles using a 500Whr pack.

You could get a 2017 Giant Road E for $3500 at most dealers across the nation. Here is a fun video featuring that bike.
This is also a fairly light weight bike.

Now, if you get something with 750+Whr, then you're looking at 53+ lbs of weight.

Any Trek bike shop would be able to get you a police E-Bike. For the money, it's top class. Swap the fork for a lighter carbon one and you're again in the sub 44 lbs zone.

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/mountain-bikes/cross-country-mountain-bikes/police/police-electric/p/22241/

There are other bikes with bigger batteries and weight, Stromer, Riese & Muller, but they are often poor value compared to some of the bikes mentioned above.

Alaskan
12 hours ago

The TQ 120S looks sexy but puts the emphasis in the wrong places. They put the money into a cool looking carbon fiber frame that surely weighs a few pounds let than aluminum would be, but a few pounds matters little on an ebike. Then they saved money on the derailier and cassette with only a ten speed with an 11-36 cassette. Depending on the front sprocket, I would find a 36 tooth lowest gear to be too high a gear to comfortably negotiate the hills around Bellingham.

My Cube came with a Shimano xt shadow plus with an 11 speed cassette that went from 11 teeth to 42. The bike has the Bosch CX. I found that it lacked a high enough gear for downhill runs and spun out at about 24 mph. I changed the sprocket at the crank from a 15 tooth to a 17 tooth which gave me grip up to 30 mph. Then I swapped out the cassette for an 11 speed 11-46 tooth set up which gave me a real hill climbing, grunter of a low gear.

The best mirror for a bike is the 701 I have on my Riese & Muller Nevo Nuvinci GH it is made by Busch & Muller, folds in easily, stays in adjustment during the ride and is big. You can get it at Propel Bikes in Brooklyn https://propelbikes.com/product/busch-muller-701-mirror-e-bikes/

Alaskan
4 days ago

Go by G & O Family Cyclery up on Greenwood & 85th They are friendly, knowledgeable and have Riese & Muller Demo bikes there and other well chosen brands. Test ride a few of their bikes so you know what is possible at the high end of things with meticulously engineered and built, Bosch powered bikes using many top tier components. If they are beyond your budget, start figuring out which elements you really want and which ones you can do without and look at other brands and other configurations. Don't rush it, read lots, test ride a bunch, take your time. You will be riding this thing more often and further than you expect. Being careful and methodical in making your choice. The Seattle Folding and Electric Bike shop in Ballard on Leary way is another shop with a wide variety of bikes. Good guys over there too.

Alaskan
1 week ago

Mike, I went through this process back in January. I spent loads of time reading Court's reviews, watching his videos and then test riding bikes in four different bike shops in Seattle and one on Vashon Island.

I live in Bellingham, have been ebiking since February and just love it. I am 67 and peaked out at 238 lbs last year. I now ride my bike almost every day for at least averaging 17 miles. The only time I drive my car is if it is raining or I need to haul something too big for the bike. I am now down to 208 lbs. I wake up every day and look out the window to see if I can ride. The feeling of freedom, health and vitality is addicting.

Keep up the good work doing research. There are a wealth of shops to visit in Seattle. Resist the urge to buy until you do some more test riding. You will find one that feels right for you soon enough.

Make your next trip to Seattle Electric & Folding Bikes in Ballard http://electricvehiclesnw.com/ They have been around longer than anyone else in the area, are very helpful and friendly.

Next go up to G&O Cycles at 85th & Greenwood https://familycyclery.com/. They are the Riese & Muller dealer and have a good number of demo bikes to ride...nice people as well.

Seattle Electric Bike https://seattleelectricbike.net/ is nearby. They carry Cube, Bulls, Raleigh, Felt , Focus and others. My experience with the owner was quite offputting though. PM me if you want details.

After you have visited these three shops, the style of bike that will work best for you should begin to emerge.

Alaskan
1 week ago

Riese & Muller Nevo Nuvinci GH - Bosch CX, 500watt x2 batteries, fairly level (800 foot gain & loss), paved trail, mostly touring (2nd lowest level), some EMTB (auto assist mode) , bike weight 75, my weight 208, 43 miles.

Alaskan
2 weeks ago

The Orlieb panniers have inserts in the hangers that can be removed and do fit the robust square tubing racks on my Riese & Muller Nevo.

Orlieb bags fit up to a 16mm tube and comes with adapters for 8mm & 10mm tubing

Alaskan
2 weeks ago

I went for a ride yesterday on the Centennial Trail in Western Washington State. It is east of Interstate 5 on an old railroad bed that has been paved over about 18 feet wide. It runs from south Skagit County down through Arlington, Lake Stevens to Snohomish and covers about 35 miles and then ties into the Burke Gillman Trail which takes you by the University of Washington and through the Ballard neighborhood of Seattle and ending at Shilshole Bay on Puget Sound.

It is mostly flat with gentle grades running mostly through second growth forest and fields. Where it runs through towns, it is well marked and still quite wide. People consistently stopped to let me cross even when they had right of way.

I started at the north end of the trail and rode south for 22 miles and then headed back north to my car. I rode with an extra battery so I could ride till the battery quit. I almost made the 44.75 mile round trip on one battery with the battery running out at 43.4 miles.

Key stats:

Bike: Riese & Muller Nevo Nuvinci GH (with Bikespeed RS dongle)
Weight: Bike 77 lbs.
Rider: weight 208 lbs.
Drive System: Nuvinci 380 with Gates Belt Drive
Elevation Gain/Loss: 837/801
Average Cadence: 76
Average Speed: 16.8
Average Rider Power Output: 111 watts
Power Output Rider: 40% - Engine 60%
Assist Modes: Eco 10% - Tour 66% - EMTB 23% - Turbo 1%
Battery range: 43.4 miles
Watts per Mile: 11.52
Battery percentage per mile: 2.3%

Chris Davies
2 weeks ago

Hi, Just a three month update on the R&M Superchargers.
I have just posted a three month update on our R&M Superchargers on You Tube

vasubandu
2 weeks ago

Until I read this, I never even considered going that route. That is very intriguing.

vasubandu
2 weeks ago

Ann M, J.R., Ebikefevercure and Rich C, thanks and I get it. I should have been more clear. I just want a better idea of what the issues are before I do that so that I will be better able to evaluate things. In the end, it will be a bike to ride, not a bunch of specs on a spreadsheet. And I may think that I have found the perfect bike, but when I ride it, find that it does not work at all. For me, it is kind of learning enough so I can pay attention to what the issues are for each bike. Otherwise, I am liable to fall in love with the first thing I ride and ignore any issues it might have. I have made the mistake in the past of just trying things and ended up making bad decisions. Then again, I also have made bad decisions by reading a bunch of reviews online and then not putting things to the test. So I am trying to make sure I do both. And that will mean taking a hard look at bikes in all price ranges to get a feeling for what the brackets really are.

So far, the most helpful suggestions have been the minimums. Alaskan suggested tires at least 2 inches wide, but not too wide. That reminded me of my youth when I had a 10-speed with those ridiculously skinny wheels and the number of times they decided to move sideways. I had forgotten that and would not have paid attention. He suggested a minimum of 180 mm hydraulic disc brakes, and I see some bikes with less, and others with 180 in the back and less in the front. Again, that would not have occurred to me as a requirement. TML has me confused because he suggested a minimum of 540 wh battery. and I sort of thought that 500 was the very high end. I need to figure this out, but I had not been thinking about battery life.

These are the kinds of things that I have seen in comments here, and I suspect that many of you don't realize how helpful and valuable they are. You guys have learned these lessons the hard way, and people like me get to coast behind you. You obviously can't tell me what bike to buy, but you can help me avoid some awful mistakes. In the end, I suspect that there will be at least 5 bikes that would meet all my needs at a price that makes sense, and it will come down to personal preference. I am not trying to find the perfect bike, just a good one.

Out of curiosity, one of the bikes that really appeals to me visually is the Moustache Samedi. Or maybe the Friday. But I see very little discussion of them here or elsewhere. They a French and maybe have little market share. They are not cheap, but not crazy expensive either. Propel has the Samedi 27 XRoad 3 and the Friday 27.3, both with Bosch Performance Cruise, 20mph and 500 Wh Bosch battery POwerpack, and both $3,550. Beyond that, the price shoots up.

The Stromer bikes are all gorgeous to my eyes, but man are they spendy. And they seem proprietary, so it is hard for me to compare.

My sense for some reason is that companies like iZip are second tier, but their E3 Moda is attractive and seems well equipped for $3,000. And going cheap, the E2 Protour is on sale for $1600 with an E3 motor and a 417 Wh battery, but its range looks really limited, and who knows about that motor.

Alaskan rides a Riese & Muller Nevo Nuvinci GH and lives nearby. He says it is well adapted to the Pacific Northwest, but yikes, it is a $5,000 bile. Plus I really prefer the step over style. I have to say that the R&M Supercharger is to me the most attractive electric bike I have seen. And you can load it up with 2 500 Wh batteries, but when you do, you are getting close to $7,000.

I do not see any Moutache dealers close by. The nearest seems to be on Vancouver Island in Canada, which would be a trip, but doable. They have the Friday 27.5 for $4,250 US, the Samedi 27 Xroad 5 for $4,000 and the Samedi 7 28.3 400 for $3,500.

There are several Stromer dealers in Seattle, so that would be easy. I may run by tomorrow and see what this is all about.

Thanks to everyone for the help.

,

Gator
2 weeks ago

Well said and appreciated on my part. I do have a thing for reliability =D I looked at R and M and I love the dual battery models. They appear well designed and look super sharp. I would like to test ride one if I can find a dealer.

Nelson37
2 weeks ago

A mid-drive will involve a lot of shifting, for the hill and for any stops. It will not be like the electric motorcycle you really want. But, a mid-drive is the only type of turn-key ebike that is still a bicycle, will do 28 mph if you get the right model, and climb that hill with zero pedaling without melting the motor.

Take a 1500W DD hub, put it in a 20" wheel on a cargo bike frame, feed it 58 or more volts of high amp battery, and that will give you closer to the electric motorcycle, still look like a bicycle, climb the hill at decent speed with no pedaling and do 28 mph, with no moving parts in the motor. Easily in the price range you are looking at, you could get two, or have it professionally assembled, or a custom frame, for less than the Riese & Muller, which is an excellent quality company.

Bran Vasqez
3 months ago

Will you please consider reviewing the new Riese and Miller Tinker Model (2018) as well?

KK89
5 months ago

Dude you need some proper shoes. and btw.. aluminum does not rust.

Tracey McNeel
5 months ago

For bikes that have no water bottle cage mounts; there are devices that will hold a water bottle cage such as on one's handlebars or the rear of the saddle on the bike.

Genecop Coppola
5 months ago

Nicely done again Court...making NY proud...

Mark Elford
5 months ago

Nice rack, good commuter Ebike.

james eagle
5 months ago

Court, you should review the greaser ebike by Michael blast!

Mark Akers
5 months ago

Nice i just got one for the wife and i and 4 kids... Not..

Rick
5 months ago

I might have missed this in your awesome video, does this have a throttle Only mode??

Pete Mulder
4 months ago

Rick n

SCOOTERETTI
4 months ago

Hey Rick, the Bosch mid drive units are pedal assist bicycles only and do not come with a throttle.

Jozef Dobias
5 months ago

no, R&M bikes are done for EU/German market spec, means no throttle to stay in line with regulations of pedal assist.. thats why they call them Pedelec, not a motorbike.

Dmitri Nesteruk
5 months ago

What's your impression of NuVinci compared to Rohloff?

SCOOTERETTI
4 months ago

Dmitri, it depends on the application. In my recent interview with Heiko Müller, at Interbike 2017 looking at the 2018 models I asked him his personal thoughts. In summary, he mentioned that the Rohloff system is the system to go with for those riders doing huge amounts of mileage on their bikes. The Nuvinci system is ideal for commuting and recreational cycling.

Now with that being said the Rohloff can be used by anyone and is a beautiful system. Personally, for myself, I went with the Nuvinci system on my 2017 Charger with dual batteries as it was much more practical for my needs and required absolutely zero maintenance and is ultra quiet. I didn't really see the point in getting the Rohloff for my commuting needs (about 5,000 Km's per year)

regards,

Will

Josue Chavez
5 months ago

You should do a giveaway :D

Gino Janssen
5 months ago

The bike seems ok to me . But the prise is lil bit steep .. almost even expensive like mine stromer .

ElectricBikeReview.com
5 months ago

Yeah, it seems like most of the R&M models are pricy like this. It's a well made product with nicer components and drive systems but you're paying for the German engineering and custom building along with the name

polok890
5 months ago

if a $5000 bicycle is junk after 10,000 miles, that equals $.50 a mile just for purchase price loss. id a get a great deal on a german haibike on ebay, theyre selling for $1500

SCOOTERETTI
4 months ago

These bikes will last significantly longer than 10,000 miles. That is not a lot of mileage for these bikes. If you are not the type of person who is abusive with your personal belongings and does maintenance these types of bikes will last. Certainly like anything with lithium batteries expect to invest in a new battery 5-7 years from now along with the normal wear and tear items like brakes, tires etc..... The Bosch drive units are super reliable and will most likely never cause you any issues.

Like Court mentions, Bosch will have replacement parts for many years to come. There are so many Bosch systems out there that parts won't be an issue any time soon.

If you are planning to do high mileage riding with the NEVO then you should seriously look at the GH model as the Super Moto X tires are awesome and last longer than any other I have ever ridden on as well as the Magura brakes.

take care,

Will

Jozef Dobias
5 months ago

interesting not what German bike selling sites say... and every bike is only as good as its owner. I know guys with 70s race frames riding sportives.. and I know a guy who bought a €150 Tesco bike and binned it in 2 months.

polok890
5 months ago

id be most worried about ovaled bearing races, especailly on the crank and if the motor could be rebuilt/refreshed

ElectricBikeReview.com
5 months ago

Interesting calculation, I'm not sure how many miles these bikes could go before they were truly junk, most of the wearable hardware is replaceable and I have been told that Bosch plans to support and sell Powerpacks for 10+ years. The frame should last and these motors are known for being very durable and reliable. Similar calculations can be done for automobiles but they tend to require even more expensive maintenance, servicing, and the fuel is more costly

ForbinColossus
5 months ago

@17:14 Court I know you say "I like to spin" Is it possible for you to 'tag' your camera footage with a running number to display your pedaling rpm?

ElectricBikeReview.com
5 months ago

Great suggestion, I have tried to include that data in the monitor stats on some of my "let's ride" videos. It's not easy to do when filming multiple bikes and traveling, but I'll try to work it in more often in the future :)

kawikaphotography
5 months ago

Thanks for the video. I'm glad they're serving bigger riders but sheesh, I thought my Large Road-e at 44lbs was heavy. I wonder if the rear rack rating is because the bike could have a bigger rider.

ElectricBikeReview.com
5 months ago

Yeah, most electric bikes I see that have fenders, racks, lights etc. weigh at least 50 lbs, most are 55+ so this one at 62 is on target given the really thick main tube that is designed for stiffness. And as for the rear rack rating, I'm not sure why it's rated lower, I think it's just their design and maybe they are estimating more conservatively?

pj520
5 months ago

$5000.00 for a bike with rattily fenders, a tail light you can barely see and no BRAKE light, no thanks!

Dennis Dowd
2 months ago

I believe that what customers are expecting for fairly high priced models is such things has good lights which includes a back light that also indicates braking. I feel the electric bikes and what type of standard safety issues are still coming to be. It may take about 5 years to get this all down, but eventually a lot of the issues that you talk about will become standard. After watching this video this bike has a lot going for it. Surely lights can be added, and most likely I would be doing that anyway. Another great review, thank Chris for me great guy. Both bikes a very nice looking, Thanks!

ElectricBikeReview.com
5 months ago

The fenders were louder than I expected... but that was a very bumpy stretch of road :D I think lots of fenders would rattle there and they had to choose extra wide ones to cover the big tires. Yeah, the backlight could be brighter, but most of the things on this bike are setup very well in my opinion :)

Ddr Hazy
5 months ago

The belt looks really sturdy. Motor sounds good. Small battery, small motor and overpriced.

Jozef Dobias
5 months ago

was just gonna say the same :D :D until some other company comes to market with such high quality and customer service as Bosch there isn't a comparison really.. 'numbers over quality' isn't what Germans do. Well apart from VW :D

ElectricBikeReview.com
5 months ago

These motors are surprisingly powerful if you shift, but there are indeed more powerful options out there from Bafang. I appreciate how this one will be easier on the drivetrain and has a good reputation for durability. The battery capacity is above average for consumer ebikes, but 500 watt hours is becoming the norm, at least it's lighter weight and easy to replace. I wish I could have had a really large friend ride it to show how it performs with more weight. I think it could do very well based on the mountain biking I've done with the Bosch CX over the past year

extra time
5 months ago

which type of ebikes are legal in nyc for 2018?

extra time
5 months ago

ok so that means that class 3 ebikes are legal with not throttle? thank you so much for the answer and time guys.

ElectricBikeReview.com
5 months ago

I think kawikaphotography is correct, Class 1 pedelecs are allowed. I had a conversation with Chris from Propel about this (since his shop is in Broklyn) and you can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idZ5-4FZpTc&t=1s

kawikaphotography
5 months ago

According to GCN, pedelecs are okay. It's the ones that have a throttle that are banned. https://youtu.be/iA927OgEcQw?t=7m15s

ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
5 months ago

How does this compare to the Evelo bikes? R&M is premium priced, but is it value for money? Did that Thudbuster make much difference?

ElectricBikeReview.com
5 months ago

Oh yeah, I'm a huge fan of the Thudbuster, Bodyfloat, and SR Suntour NXC suspension posts... and you can get any of them for under $200 to add to any ebike (though you might also need a shim adapter for wider or uniquely sized seat tubes). I think the higher price on this product is about the German engineering, quality, and a bit about the brand. It does use nice parts throughout and the frame is completely custom and balanced. Evelo does make some nicer products lately and has some good prices too. It's all good :)

Aaron Kuehn
5 months ago

It looks like that bike has a rear hub motor and a mid drive. True?

ElectricBikeReview.com
5 months ago

Hi Aaron, good observation! This model actually uses a hub style gearing system called a continuously variable transmission (from NuVinci). Sometimes people call this a CVT and you can learn more about it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN8CCY1vFC8 so no, there's only one mid-motor and the rear hub is actually for changing gears to change pedal speeds and make climbing easier. It also uses a belt drive instead of a chain like other bikes.

kevin delporte
5 months ago

What do you prefer ? Derailer or nuvinci ?

Chris at Propel
5 months ago

The Nuvinci is most popular for us, but some like the slightly more sporty feel of the derailleur. Having the belt is super nice and only available on the Nuvinci version.

ElectricBikeReview.com
5 months ago

It depends on the application for me, a bike like this is perfect for NuVinci because the extra weight isn't an issue, the CVT shifts slower but can shift anytime which is nice at stops. I mostly ride lightweight mountain bikes with full suspension because I have a sensitive neck and back... and I always get derailleurs for those. I prefer NuVinci to some of the cheaper internally geared hubs.