Riese & Müller Tinker NuVinci Review

Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Electric Bike Review
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Bosch Cx Mid Drive Electric Bicycle Motor
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Removable Bosch Powerpack 500 Ebike Battery
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Ergonomic Grips Bosch Intuvia Display Panel
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci 50 Mm Spinner Grind Os Suspension Fork
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Adjustable Height Telescoping Stem
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Tektro Auriga Comp Hydraulic Disc Brakes 160 Mm
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Abus Shield 5650 Frame Lock
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Alloy Rear Rack With Bibia Rubber Straps Hebie Kickstand
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci N380 Continuously Variable Transmission
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Bosch 4 Amp Electric Bike Charger
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Electric Bike Review
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Bosch Cx Mid Drive Electric Bicycle Motor
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Removable Bosch Powerpack 500 Ebike Battery
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Ergonomic Grips Bosch Intuvia Display Panel
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci 50 Mm Spinner Grind Os Suspension Fork
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Adjustable Height Telescoping Stem
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Tektro Auriga Comp Hydraulic Disc Brakes 160 Mm
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Abus Shield 5650 Frame Lock
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Alloy Rear Rack With Bibia Rubber Straps Hebie Kickstand
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci N380 Continuously Variable Transmission
Riese And Muller Tinker Nuvinci Bosch 4 Amp Electric Bike Charger

Summary

  • A premium compact electric bike with unique partial-folding features, the handlebar folds down completely but can also be raised and angled forward to accommodate taller riders
  • Sturdy rear rack, full-length fenders, reflective tires, and integrated Supernova lights offer utility and safety, three fun frame color option let you personalize the look
  • Bosch CX motor is e-mountain bike capable in terms of power and responsiveness, it's known for reliability and works well with the clean quiet Gates Carbon belt drive system
  • Fatter 2.15" diameter Schwalbe tires offer stability and comfort, they compliment the suspension fork and ergonomic grips allowing you to ride further without hand and back fatigue

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Introduction

Make:

Riese & Müller

Model:

Tinker NuVinci

Price:

$4,489

Body Position:

Upright, Forward

Suggested Use:

Neighborhood, Urban, Commuting, Travel, Youth

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

2 Year Comprehensive, 5 Year Frame

Availability:

United States, Europe

Model Year:

2017

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

54.8 lbs (24.85 kg)

Battery Weight:

5.7 lbs (2.58 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.8 lbs (3.99 kg)

Frame Material:

Aluminum

Frame Sizes:

16 in (40.64 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

16.25" Seat Tube, 22" Reach, 24.5" Stand Over Height, 61.5" Length

Frame Types:

Mid-Step, Compact

Frame Colors:

Azure Blue Metallic, Matte Black, Orange Metallic

Frame Fork Details:

Spinner Grind OS Spring, 50 mm Travel, Preload Adjust, 100 / 9 mm Skewer with Quick Release

Frame Rear Details:

135 / 10 mm Threaded Axle with Nuts

Attachment Points:

Rear Rack Bosses, Fender Bosses

Gearing Details:

1 Speed 1x∞ NuVinci N380 CVT with 380% Ratio Range, 24T Cog

Shifter Details:

NuVinci C8 Grip Twist on Right

Cranks:

Riese & Müller Branded FSA Alloy 170 mm Crank Arms, 26T Cog for Gates CDX Belt Drive

Pedals:

VP-191 Alloy Platform with Rubber Tread

Headset:

FSA, Semi-Integrated, 1-1/8" Diameter

Stem:

Riese & Müller, Alloy, Adjustable Angle (180° with 3 Positions), Telescoping Height (3" with 5 Positions)

Handlebar:

FSA B-Drive, Flat, Alloy, 31.8 mm Diameter, 24" Length

Brake Details:

Tektro Auriga Comp Hydraulic Disc with 160 mm Rotors, Tektro Auriga Comp Levers with Adjustable Reach

Grips:

Ergon GP1 Ergonomic, Rubber, Locking

Saddle:

Selle Royale Lookin, Gel

Seat Post:

Aluminum Alloy

Seat Post Length:

430 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

34.9 mm

Rims:

Mach1 650, Aluminum Alloy, Double Wall, 32 Hole Front, 36 Hole Rear, 23 mm Width, Reinforcement Eyelets

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 14 Gauge, Black with Nipples

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Big Ben Plus, 20" x 2.15" (55-406)

Wheel Sizes:

20 in (50.8cm)

Tire Details:

Reflective Sidewall Stripe, 30 to 55 PSI, Performance Line GreenGuard

Tube Details:

Presta Valve

Accessories:

Flick Bell on Right, ABUS Shield 5650 Cafe Lock Keyed to Match Battery, SKS B65 Plastic Fenders, Riese & Müller Alloy Rear Rack with Racktime Compatibility and two Bibia Adjustable Rubber Straps and Child Seat Approved (44 lb Max Weight), Hebie FIX18 Adjustable Kickstand, Integrated Supernova E3 E-Bike V6s Headlight (165 Lumens), Integrated Busch & Müller Toplight Mini LED, Optional Thudbuster ST ($165), Optional Cargo Modul Carrier ($77), Optional Pizza Box Carrier for up to 10 Boxes ($439)

Other:

Locking Removable Battery Pack, 1.7 lb 4 Amp Charger

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bosch Performance Line CX

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

250 watts

Motor Torque:

75 Newton meters

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

11 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

396 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

3.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

25 miles (40 km)

Estimated Max Range:

75 miles (121 km)

Display Type:

Bosch Intuvia, Removable, Adjustable Angle, Grayscale, Backlit LCD, (Hold Reset and i for Settings Menu)

Readouts:

Speed, Assist Level (Eco, Tour, Sport, Turbo), Battery Level (1-5), Odometer, Trip Distance, Estimated Range, Clock, Max Speed, Average Speed, Trip Time, Shift Assist Recommendation

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad with Tactile Feedback on Left, 5 Volt 500 mA Micro-USB Port on Display

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Measures Wheel Speed, Pedal Cadence and Pedal Torque, Power Output Relative to Pedal Input: Eco 50% 40 Nm, Tour 120% 50 Nm, Sport 210% 60 Nm, Turbo 300% 75 Nm)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

When you want the steady feel of a non-folding bicycle but don’t have a lot of space for storage, compact bikes offer a good compromise. The Tinker is an electric assist compact bike from the famed German brand Riese & Müller with some unique folding properties that set it apart in the space. It offers the same high-quality frame design that other R&M models are known for along with premium components like a Supernova headlight, Busch & Müller backlight, Ergon ergonomic locking grips, a built-in cafe lock that’s keyed to match the battery, and a sturdy integrated rack that’s raised a bit to work with panniers and full-length fenders. While other compact e-bikes forego any kind of stem adjustment, the Tinker takes things to a whole other level… allowing you to raise and tilt the stem to accommodate petite and large sized riders alike. And yet, the steering and handling remains solid because of locking pins and quick release levers (two at the base of the stem) along with the low centered weight distribution of the motor and battery pack. When you combine a solid frame with slightly fatter tires and a stable stem and bar setup, you end up with a more traditional feel… and the suspension fork, while basic, takes the edge off of bumpy streets. Riese & Müller promotes the handling and comfort benefits of suspension on many of their models and although the Tinker is only a hardtail, they do offer a Thudbuster seat post suspension upgrade for $165 to improve comfort and control. If you’re bouncing around on the saddle, that movement may translate into the steering or pedaling and this is where a suspension post can help. I’m a big fan of this type of hardware but want to caution that it will raise the minimum saddle height by a few inches and may not be quite as long as the stock 430 mm rigid seat post. If you’re super short or tall, this is an upgrade to really think through so that you can maintain approachability and pedal extension. The other options you’ll have to consider when custom ordering a Tinker is which motor system to go with. In this review, I had the high-torque Bosch CX motor, which peaks out at 20 mph, offering up to 75 Newton meters of torque. The Gates Carbon belt drive and continuously variable transmission NuVinci hub were quiet and clean but add weight. And at ~54.8 lbs, this is one of the heavier compact electric bikes I have ever tested. Alternatively, the high-speed Bosch Performance Line Speed motor, which peaks out at 28 mph, offers up to 60 Nm of torque with a lighter Shimano 10-speed cassette and chain. Chains stretch over time, run louder, and can get your pants dirty compared to a belt drive but a chainring guard will help keep pants or skirts clear. While I haven’t had an opportunity to test ride the speed version of the Tinker, judging from the stability of this 20 mph model, I’d estimate that it would handle fairly well. And the 160 mm hydraulic disc brakes will provide great stopping power on both models but may lock up a bit easier than 24″, 26″ or 28″ wheels so take care when squeezing them. I did experience a bit of skidding during the test ride because of the mechanical advantage the brakes have on such a small wheelset, the adjustable-reach levers allow you to dial in fit for small or large hands and are nice for bringing in a bit if you ride with gloves as well.

Driving the Tinker NuVinci is a high-torque mid-drive from Bosch, whether you get the high speed or CX model. It’s incredibly responsive and fluid because it measures rear wheel speed, pedal cadence, and pedal torque one-thousand times per second! This drive system is known for being incredibly reliable but it does cost more and that’s reflected in the $4,489 price tag for the Tinker. Inside the motor is a gearbox that spins the small chainring 2.5 revolutions for every one crank arm revolution and this produces a small amount of friction and noise which can be heard when riding the bike unpowered. The benefit of using a smaller chainring, according to Bosch, is that it grips the chain or belt better. You won’t have to worry about dropped chains or belts when riding and in my experience, the quickness of the motor to start and stop the chainring results in reduced knee strain for starting and a sense of control when stopping or navigating precarious terrain. The Bosch CX drive unit is often reserved for electric mountain bikes so in many ways it seems like overkill on an urban model like the Tinker… you can save some money and opt for the Tinker City model which uses a 48 Nm Bosch Active Line motor and probably be just fine. It won’t be as loud and will help to extend your range but you also won’t get the same zippy fast feel that the CX and speed motors offer. It’s cool that there are so many options to consider for this ebike, including a rear basket and “pizza box” food container.

Powering the drive system, backlit display, and lights is a 36 volt Lithium-ion battery that comes in two flavors, the Bosch Powerpack 400 or 500 (on the Speed version). The batteries look the same, weigh within 0.3 lbs of each other, and interface with the same mount so you could have one of each if you decided to purchase a second pack to extend range. On the left side, there’s a power-test button that illuminates up to five LEDs to communicate how full the pack is. Charging is a breeze, whether the battery is mounted on the frame or is stored separately because the plug interface is the same. And the pack fills quickly thanks to the faster than average 4 Amp charger. Bosch has two charger models now and the four Amp is slightly larger and heavier, consider purchasing a second two amp “travel charger” if you intend to leave one at your place of work and one at home. While some electric bike companies have focused resources on integrating batteries into their frames, I’m guessing that R&M has stuck with the Powerpack because it will be supported longer, is easier to find (for replacement), and won’t cost as much to replace. The side affect is that the battery stands out on the frame, and given the tight triangle where the mount is positioned, it can be tricky to click the battery on and take it off. This is one area where compromises have been made… it’s a minor gripe and I’d much rather keep the top tube low to make the bike accessible to petite riders, but it can slow you down a bit, especially if you take the battery off to lift the bike up stairs or to charge while parking the bike outside.

Operating the Tinker is as easy as any other Bosch powered electric bicycle with the Intuvia display interface system. This is one of my favorite control panels because it’s large and easy to read, has an integrated Micro-USB port on the right to charge a phone or other portable electronic device, and is removable. If you park the bike outside, you can bring the battery and display panel in while not worrying so much about the sturdy integrated lights… just remember to lock the front wheel and saddle because they use quick release systems. The display panel is automatically backlit with a faint blue glow that is easy to read in low-light and dark riding conditions. It shows your current speed, battery capacity, assist level, power use, and a bunch of trip stats like average speed and trip distance. My favorite stat to check on is range. You can get to this readout by clicking the i button on the display or the left mounted control pad. When looking at range, you can arrow up or down through the four levels of assist to get an idea for how far the bike can go based on the last mile of riding and remaining battery level. It’s much more useful than the five-led battery indicator on the battery and five-dot battery infographic readout on the display. One other cool readout is shift recommendation, a little up or down arrow that appears above the speed readout, urging you to maximize pedal and motor efficiency by shifting. For people who opt for the NuVinci CVT system, shifting can be done at anytime without fear of mashing the gears. People who go for the traditional 10-speed will benefit from shift detection, where the motor eases off automatically to reduce tension as the chain is sent from one sprocket to the next… but this design cannot be shifted at standstill.

The Riese and Müller Tinker is a neat platform with some great drivetrain and motor options, it’s much more customizable than the ordinary electric bike, but it also takes longer to produce and deliver. R&M builds to order and has to ship internationally so I’m told there is a 1+ month lead time on their bikes. They are clearly more expensive and I was surprised by how much the NuVinci model weighed. The suspension fork is nice but doesn’t include lockout and as much as I like Thudbuster I believe they only make a 350 mm long post which comes up short compared to the 430 mm stock post. The stock pedals can be a little slippery if it’s wet out but the fenders should keep the rest of your clothes and gear dry. I’m not sure exactly how much weight this ebike is capable of holding but reinforced 20″ wheels tend to be very sturdy and the rigid vs. folding frame offers the same sort of strength properties. It’s easy to slap any generic fender and rack set onto an electric bike and have it look good but R&M opted for accessories that actually work well, notice how the rack is raised to allow for longer panniers to work on the sides, and there’s even a slot at the bottom for use with a bungee strap side to side if you need more support than the included rubber straps that go front to back. It’s also nice to have a kickstand and the placement here is spot on because it stays out of your way when backing the bike up (as the crank arms turn). The Tinker serves a niche but it does so very well and can break down smaller than most of the other compact models I have tested and reviewed. Maybe future models will come with a lockout suspension fork… and for those who want to get the saddle as low as possible, you may have to hack-saw the included post or buy a shorter one along with a shim to fit the unique 34.9 mm diameter. Big thanks to Riese & Müller for partnering with me on this post, it was neat to see their different products back to back for the sake of comparison. And thanks to Propel for hosting me in Brooklyn where the streets present all kinds of obstacles and the traffic and sirens blare ;)

Pros:

  • Compact electric bikes provide space savings characteristics similar to folding models but tend to feel a lot more stable because and rigid, the Tinker has a quick release front wheel, seat tube collar, and folding stem so you can break it down and store it in smaller spaces like closets or car trunks
  • The removable Bosch battery and display panel allow you to protect and charge the expensive bits at your office or home, I like that the display panel has a Micro-USB port for accessing battery power for portable electronics devices while the bike is powered on (I have used it to charge my iPhone before for GPS)
  • Supernova and Busch & Müller integrated lights are a big step up in terms of durability, the headlight in particular has an Aluminum housing that won’t crack or rattle over time with use, it’s aimable and the light is very bright
  • If you opt for the Tinker NuVinci, you’ll be able to shift gears at standstill which comes in handy for unexpected stops, it’s a smooth drivetrain that works well with the belt drive which will tend to require fewer tuneups than the 10-speed Deore cassette and traditional chain
  • The Bosch CX motor is very powerful but also smooth and dynamic, it doesn’t feel overwhelming or surprising and the new eMTB mode software update lets you ride in Sport level assist with access to low and high power all at once (based on pedal torque) so you don’t have to think about clicking the button pad while riding
  • Hydraulic disc brakes are smooth but powerful and the 160 mm rotors on this e-bike are perfect for the smaller 20″ wheel size, adjustable reach levers improve fit for small and large hands alike
  • Internally routed cables keep the frame looking clean while reducing snags, the adjustable rear-mounted kickstand stays out of the way and works well
  • Not only does the stem telescope up an down but it locks into position with a pin and secures with a clamp,
    lower down there’s a rotator which can angle the stem and bars more forward or back to really dial in fit and both systems just feel solid which makes the ride comfortable (especially important if you get the high-speed HS Tinker model)
  • I love the little extras like a flick bell and rubber straps on the rear rack, they let you hit the ground running on day one without needing to invest in add-ons
  • The optional Thudbuster suspension seat post is a great add-on for those with sensitivity in the back and neck, it turns the Tinker into something like a full suspension compact bike which is great considering the smaller diameter 20″ wheels don’t usually tend to be as comfortable on bumpy roads… you could always buy your own Thudbuster or other suspension post but make sure you get the longer length and a 34.9 mm shim so it will fit into the seat tube here
  • This is a really great option for super short petite people because the bar and seat do go down so far, the smaller wheels keep the bike frame closer to the ground and the stand-over height isn’t so tall
  • The Bosch electric bike battery charger is relatively compact, only weighs ~1.7 lbs, and puts out double what most chargers do, you get four amps which fills the larger Powerpack 500 watt hour battery pretty quickly
  • Clearly the bike can fit petite riders, maybe as short as 4’8″ but it is also quite capable for taller riders because of the longer seat post and telescoping angling stem, you could still ride the Riese & Müller Tinker comfortably if you’re over 6 foot tall!

Cons:

  • No integrated bottle cage bosses for bringing liquids and other accessories but you do get the standard-gauge rack which could be used with a trunk bag bottle holster and an ABUS Shield cafe lock for quick stops (I love that the frame lock is keyed to match the battery so you don’t need to have extra keys floating around), consider a bar mount cup holder or saddle rail adapter for adding a cage or other accessories
  • I was surprised that the Tinker, being so compact, weighs as much as most full sized electric bicycles, weighing in at 54.8 lbs this is not a lightweight ebike and that may be due to the fenders, rack, NuVinci CVT and possibly the sturdy build of the frame
  • While the NuVinci CVT hub and belt drive are quiet and clean, the Bosch motor does produce a high pitched electronic whir that becomes more noticable at high powere levels and high RPM (especially with smooth tires and the quite drivetrain)
  • Riese & Müller electric bikes offer a great warranty and use high-end components and hardware but they do cost more and there’s usually a one+ month weight time because they build and ship to order through dealers
  • I like the chainring protector because it doubles as a pants protector but it’s not as good as a fully enclosed plastic cover like I’ve seen on some other Bosch powered ebikes, given the nice fenders, it would be great to have a bit more protection against wet, dirt, and oil on the belt or chain
  • Because the Bosch Powerpack battery clicks down onto the downtube vs. sliding in from the side, the top tube wasn’t as low as it might have otherwise been and getting the pack on or off the bike can be a little tricky because there isn’t a lot of space above it
  • I reviewed this bike at Propel Bikes in Brooklyn New York and the owner, Chris Nolte, had replaced the stock pedals with larger grippier ones because they tend to feel more comfortable and aren’t as slippery (worth considering if you ride in the rain or wet environments frequently), I like these affordable Alloy pedals from Wellgo

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Mulga Bill
2 months ago

I just took delivery of my Tinker Nuvinci. It's something of a learning curve as I've never ridden an electric bike before. I fell off it on day two because I rode into a patch of Jacaranda blossoms after several days of rain. If you are familiar with Jacaranda trees then you will know that they are deadly for cyclists during their flowering season, particularly if it's been raining. Anyway I saw the jacaranda sludge on the path and took it the way I normally would on my Moulton with its skinny tyres. Wrong. The big fat tyres of the Tinker didn't cut through the sludge and find some grip but just slurped over the purple haze of rotting Jacaranda flowers and I went arse up. Lesson learned, I think.

I ordered it months ago. My impression of the Australian distributors so far is not so good but the dealers I ordered it through are excellent. They have dealt with every hurdle the distributors down south have put in my path.

https://electricbikesbrisbane.com.au

My initial impression of the Tinker is good. It rides very well and the controls for the electric assist are very easy to learn. As my daily bike for the last ten years has been a Moulton I'm well aware of the benefits of small wheels and the Tinker is no disappointment. But it sure is a lot heavier than the Moulton with its delicate Reynolds tubing. I wanted a bike I could get in the back of my car. When I picked it up I was actually able to squeeze it into my Citroën C3 with the front wheel removed but it sure waa difficult. This bike is heavy. I'll be putting it in the back of a C5 station wagon normally but even that is difficult. Looking into a bike carrier solution instead.

The ride is not as smooth as the Moulton but apart from that it's excellent. The handling is as good as any small wheel bike. (That's superior to big wheel bikes, for those of you unfamiliar with the difference.)

But the big thing is I will now dominate that damn Taringa hill I've had to ride over twice every day going to and from work.

E-Wheels
3 months ago

Hi everyone,

I am looking into buying either the Tern Vektron or Riese and Muller Tinker - I currently own the BH Neo Volt Sport and one thing I love about it is how responsive it is, i.e. you tap, it goes, which is great in heavy traffic. Does anyone have an opinion about which of the two bikes is more responsive? I see that the Tinker has the Bosch CX motor versus the the Vektron as the Active - is there a big difference in the feel / responsiveness between the two motors? Thx
kennyb researched both of these bikes and settled on the Tern. Hopefully he can chime in with his experiences
https://electricbikereview.com/forum/threads/vektron-and-elink-in-usa.12236/#post-102575
https://electricbikereview.com/forum/threads/riese-muller-tinker.11321/
Courts reviews here;
https://electricbikereview.com/tern/vektron/
https://electricbikereview.com/riese-muller/tinker-nuvinci/

Chris Nolte
4 months ago

I still look forward to your comments about your riding experience riding the tinker with the eMTB "flow" update (particularly if the Tinker model has the NuVinci N380 internal hub). I'm also curious about the possibility of reversing that update if, for any reason< one chooses to do so.
So I updated the bike and I think it's really nice. I didn't find myself using Sport mode too much in the past, usually it would be Eco/Tour or Turbo. I think I could get used to using the eMTB mode in the city. It seems like it might give me more of what I'm looking for, but frankly I'll need to experiment with it some more to get a more complete picture.

gumster
4 months ago

I think it's not a bad idea. I can try it out next week and let you know how it goes.

I still look forward to your comments about your riding experience riding the tinker with the eMTB "flow" update (particularly if the Tinker model has the NuVinci N380 internal hub). I'm also curious about the possibility of reversing that update if, for any reason< one chooses to do so.

Sonoboy
4 months ago

The Riese and Muller Tinker might be an option. While the handlebar support folds, the main frame does not, thus maintaining structural rigidity. If you get it with the Nuvinci and belt drive it would be a clean, relatively maintenance-free solution that you might could even consider storing inside the van. The Bosch walk-assist would allow you to guide it up a ramp, if necessary. The Bosch drive is one of the more reliable, and Bosch has a large network of dealers for any warranty issues. Read this thread: https://electricbikereview.com/forum/threads/riese-muller-tinker.11321/

Courts review:https://electricbikereview.com/riese-muller/tinker-nuvinci/

Chris Nolte
8 months ago

I think in simple terms, they are similar, but it's really what you want or need. I think one key element is that they both have the Bosch system, which is a win in my book. I think the Tinker is special in that it has a suspension fork, available with a Belt for lower maintenance. It's possible to get it with the 500Wh battery if you need longer range and it's a rigid frame so there are less moving parts to wear or break.

The difference with the Vektron is, it's foldable at a lower price point with slightly less expensive parts. All in all they're both very good quality bikes, it just depends on your needs and budget.

Keep in mind that the bikes are slightly different in Denmark and I tried to cater my response to you a little more. The Shimano hub isn't offered here in the US, but it's a good option to save a few bucks. The Nuvinci might be easier for family members to use if they are not that familiar or comfortable with shifting.

If you have the opportunity to ride both of them I would highly recommend it.

I hope that helps.

David Bonde
8 months ago

Hi,
Maybe you guys are up for new questions :)

I am in the market for a new bike and got interested in the Tern Vektron. Then I saw this thread and sort of fell in love with the Tinker. I really like the design, the belt drive and the hub-thing. I can see that it comes in two versions one with the Bosch active motor and a 8 speed hub and one with the cx motor and the nuvinci hub. Unfortunately I would really have to stretch it price wise to go with the cx motor and the nuvinci. So my question basically is. Are that upgrade worth the extra buck? I really like the idea of the nuvinci hub, but don't know if I would need the extra performance in the cx motor.

I need the bike for a short commute outside of the town and for longer pleasure rides in the weekend and just to get on the bike more often than now, where I choose my car more often than not. I will properly share the bike with my daughter for her ride 10km to dance lessons and my wife.

Chris, you wrote that with no upgrade you would recommend the Vektron. Is that because the Vektron is better value than the "basic" Tinker? I can see that the motor and battery is the same on the Vektron and the "basic" Tinker.

I like the folding option on the Vektron but I will properly not be using that much. But it might come in handy from time to time.

Thanks - David - Denmark

Zachary Laputz
2 months ago

Do u mean u could have filmed this in a nice green pretty  park??? Next time film @ the local refuse site!

Kelvin Anthony
2 months ago

I've been watching this scooter for a year now I haven't seen one in the US I'm starting to lose interest

D60Ebby
4 months ago

Will the Bosch units work without the display? Would you consider dating your reviews? Very helpful, thank you.

actnowone
4 months ago

I think this bike is neither here nor there, don't know who would buy this?

frank doster
4 months ago

I think I am going to get this one!!

Gill Ingram
5 months ago

Hi, how much are they selling for? Do you supply to the Uk? Gillian

Bruno Bronosky
5 months ago

What's with the full skid at 18:30?

mentuemhet
6 months ago

when i saw that little kid walk by i felt really sad that he can't have one the entire time :( no one can really afford these bikes.

mentuemhet
6 months ago

too expensive.

pipeman451
6 months ago

Love German products and these bikes appear to be so well engineered and manufactured.... however 5K. Its my only leap of faith I still can't make when it comes to paying that price. Some how frugal doesn't come to mind. I can see they'll sell well with all their designs.

ZiggZagg11
6 months ago

Big city, little bike review... I found the review environment as interesting as the bike...

frank doster
6 months ago

I think Riese Mueller are the best Ebikes

jeff GoPro
6 months ago

Nice video in NY I just put together a BMX with a front hub motor with two battery packs from a hover board and I took the packs apart made one pack and didn't use a BMS cause I add a balance leads and use a icharger 1010B to balance charge the pack I get 12 miles range with all front motor
325 watt hours battery pack This is my first ebike n it fits inside of my car

adlanger56
6 months ago

Nice bike, but he location full of trash.yuk

Finn Green
6 months ago

interesting design
informative review

thanks!

Chris Till
6 months ago

Big fan of Bosch system with a belt drive. But I really want more single speed ebikes. It must be doable.

Chris Till
5 months ago

Propel Electric Bikes I really like the elegant simple look but it seems the nuvinci system is the best option you can get for that on an eBike. Especially with the harmony version. That is really cool tech.

Propel Electric Bikes
5 months ago

It is doable in theory, but it would be like a car with a single speed transmission. It would be okay if there was no hills, but for most people's riding it wouldn't make too much sense. You'll also loose a lot of efficiency.

ÄmÏr Gïtëñs
6 months ago

Chris Till
Makes no sense.

nilling
6 months ago

That's one of the nicest compacts I've seen. Lovely design, great track, cafe lock and nice colour 😀

ElectricBikeReview.com
6 months ago

You said it, very well done e-bike :)

Steve Donovan
6 months ago

Too expensive but one of the nicest compacts I've seen.

actnowone
4 months ago

You Toober stupid money for a poor bike

You Toober
4 months ago

*$4489.00 usd - Holy sh*t!!*

ÄmÏr Gïtëñs
6 months ago

You should buy a damn car first!

ElectricBikeReview.com
6 months ago

I love the handlebar/stem adjustments... but yeah, it's pretty expensive and heavy

JayBenny77
6 months ago

Mate, can you do a review of the BMW Cruise Ebike please? I've been offered one from my local dealership and I can't commit till I see a professional review

Gill Ingram
5 months ago

JayBenny77 i

JayBenny77
6 months ago

ElectricBikeReview.com thanks, for me it is standing as a competitor to the haibike trecking or the specialised urban model, but my local dealership are offering substantial discount and 2years free servicing and warranty. It could be the bargain of the century ebike wise.

ElectricBikeReview.com
6 months ago

Hmm... okay, I'll try to connect with my local BMW reps, we were going to do a review a few months ago but things got busy. Thanks for the request

ForbinColossus
6 months ago

Important note: SMALL WHEELS are dangerous if your streets have potholes. Unlike a regular sized bike (26,27.5,29inch) that rolls over a divot or pothole, a small wheeled bike will fall into the hole, can get caught, and throw you to the ground painfully.

Stephen Smith
3 months ago

i ride a Brompton which has 16" wheels.... and i don't have more problems with pot holes, even when you hit one unexpected at night.... it more to do with rider experience and balance.... than when i ride my 27" wheel trek.... a bad pot hole can get you regardless of wheels size.... smaller wheels are of a stronger construction too...

peter wyatt middleton.
3 months ago

20'' tires are wider than most 26'' 650c 700c setups. So how exactly did that lead to this fellow wrecking himself on street car tracks??

Wheel diameter has nothing to do with slipping on tracks

peter wyatt middleton.
3 months ago

20" isnt that small

TheOutLaw Carpenter
4 months ago

I found pot holes that eat my 26". Yea I was on the ground.

ForbinColossus
5 months ago

this appears to be one of those situs where people get defensive about the bike they bought. Dynamically, a small wheel is inherently less stable spinning than a larger wheel, given the sizes in question. If it helps, substitute the word "drop" for fall. A smaller wheel drops down further in a pothole or rut than does a larger wheel that rolls right over it.
A co-worker who's 30 yrs old and athletic just dumped a new ebike with 20-inch wheels because the front hit a streetcar track and twisted to the side pitching the whole bike over and him with it. That's just one example of many who may not have that happen-- but I've ridden over the same tracks where he dumped only I had 27.5 rims and no catches in the track ruts. YMMV...