eProdigy Magic Pro Review

Eprodigy Magic Pro Electric Bike Review
Eprodigy Magic Pro
Eprodigy Magic Pro Achiever 750 Watt Mid Motor
Eprodigy Magic Pro 48 Volt Downtube Battery Panasonic Cells
Eprodigy Magic Pro Lcd Display Handlebar Throttle
Eprodigy Magic Pro Ergonomic Grip Rubber Button Pad
Eprodigy Magic Pro Rigid Alloy Fork Reflective Tires
Eprodigy Magic Pro Sate Lite C1 40 Lux Headlight
Eprodigy Magic Pro Alloy Rear Rack Velo Comfort Saddle Kickstand
Eprodigy Magic Pro Integrated Led Backlight On Rack
Eprodigy Magic Pro Nuvinci N380 Cvt Drivetrain
Eprodigy Magic Pro Plastic Chain Cover Wellgo Alloy Pedals
Eprodigy Magic Pro White
Eprodigy Magic Pro Electric Bike Review
Eprodigy Magic Pro
Eprodigy Magic Pro Achiever 750 Watt Mid Motor
Eprodigy Magic Pro 48 Volt Downtube Battery Panasonic Cells
Eprodigy Magic Pro Lcd Display Handlebar Throttle
Eprodigy Magic Pro Ergonomic Grip Rubber Button Pad
Eprodigy Magic Pro Rigid Alloy Fork Reflective Tires
Eprodigy Magic Pro Sate Lite C1 40 Lux Headlight
Eprodigy Magic Pro Alloy Rear Rack Velo Comfort Saddle Kickstand
Eprodigy Magic Pro Integrated Led Backlight On Rack
Eprodigy Magic Pro Nuvinci N380 Cvt Drivetrain
Eprodigy Magic Pro Plastic Chain Cover Wellgo Alloy Pedals
Eprodigy Magic Pro White

Summary

  • An approachable, highly adjustable, high-powered electric bike with lots of utilitarian extras including fenders, lights, extra reflectors, and integrated rear rack
  • Compact mid-drive motor keeps weight low and centered on the frame while freeing up the rear wheel to work with a NuVinci N380 or Harmony continuously variable transmission
  • Reliable Gates carbon belt drive won't fall off as easily as a chain and doesn't make as much noise, hydraulic disc brakes provide excellent stopping power without requiring much hand strength
  • Responsive cadence sensing pedal assist with trigger-throttle override and motor-inhibiting brake levers, only one frame size but they offer two colors (dark grey or white), extra USB ports for charging portable electronics via the battery pack or LCD display panel

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Introduction

Make:

eProdigy

Model:

Magic Pro

Price:

$2,999

Body Position:

Upright, Upright Relaxed

Suggested Use:

Neighborhood, Commuting

Electric Bike Class:

Throttle on Demand (Class 2)
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Warranty:

5 Year Frame, 2 Year Motor and Battery (Must Register)

Availability:

United States, Canada, Worldwide

Model Year:

2018

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

57.5 lbs (26.08 kg)

Battery Weight:

7.4 lbs (3.35 kg)

Motor Weight:

12 lbs (5.44 kg)

Frame Material:

6061 Alloy

Frame Sizes:

17 in (43.18 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

17.25" Seat Tube, 23.75" Reach, 17.25" Stand Over Height, 31.5" Minimum Saddle Height, 28.5" Width, 73.5" Length

Frame Types:

Step-Thru

Frame Colors:

Matte Charcoal, Matte Glacier White

Frame Fork Details:

Rigid Aluminum, 100 mm Hub Spacing, 9 mm Axle with Quick Release Skewer

Frame Rear Details:

135 mm Hub Spacing, 12 mm Threaded Axle with Nuts

Attachment Points:

Fender Bosses

Gearing Details:

1 Speed 1x∞ NuVinci N380 CVT with 380% Ratio Range, 24 Tooth Cog

Shifter Details:

NuVinci C8 Grip Twist on Right

Cranks:

Alloy, 170 mm Crank Arms, 46 Tooth Cog

Pedals:

Wellgo K79 Alloy Platform with Fixed Pins

Headset:

Neco, Straight 1"

Stem:

Zoom Quill Style, Adjustable Height, Adjustable Angle Stem, 25.4 mm Clamp Diameter

Handlebar:

Alloy, 55 mm Rise, 18° Backsweep, 720 mm Length

Brake Details:

Tektro Hydraulic Disc with 160 mm Rotors, Dual-Piston Calipers, Three-Finger Tektro Levers with Motor Inhibitors and Adjustable Reach

Grips:

Rubber Ergonomic

Saddle:

Velo VL-6393 Gel, Comfort

Seat Post:

Alloy, Forged Head

Seat Post Length:

400 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

30.9 mm

Rims:

Alex DM18, Alloy, Double Wall, 18 mm Width, 32 Hole, Reinforcement Eyelets

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 14 Gauge, Silver with Nipples

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Balloon Big Ben, 27.5" x 2.0" (50-524)

Wheel Sizes:

27.5 in (69.85cm)

Tire Details:

35 to 70 PSI, 2.5 to 5.0 BAR, Puncture Resistant Tire Casing, Reflective Sidewall Stripes

Tube Details:

Schrader Valve

Accessories:

Integrated Alloy Rear Rack with Pannier Rod and Bungee Loop, Plastic Fenders with Mud Flaps, Rear-Mount Adjustable Kickstand, Sate-lite C1 Integrated Headlight (40 LUX), Sate-lite M2 Integrated Backlight (Single LED), Reflective Accents

Other:

Locking Removable Downtube Semi-Integrated Battery Pack, Gates Carbon Belt Drive with CDX Alignment, 1.5 lb 2 Amp Charger

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Achiever

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

750 watts

Motor Peak Output:

1000 watts

Motor Torque:

120 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Panasonic 18650

Battery Voltage:

48 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

14.5 ah (Optional 8.7 ah)

Battery Watt Hours:

696 wh (Optional 417.6 wh)

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

6 hours

Estimated Min Range:

30 miles (48 km)

Estimated Max Range:

70 miles (113 km)

Display Type:

KT-LCD3, Fixed Backlit, Monochrome

Readouts:

Battery Level (5 Bar), Trip Time, Total Time, Assist Level (0-5), Current Speed, Avg Speed, Max Speed, Motor Wattage, Motor Temperature, Distance, Odometer, Voltage, Outside Temperature

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad on Left Bar, Buttons: Up, Mode, Down, (Hold Up for Headlight, Hold Down for Walk Mode, Hold Up and Down for Settings), Full Sized USB Port on Display and Battery Pack (5 Volt, 500 Milliamp)

Drive Mode:

Cadence Sensing Pedal Assist, Trigger Throttle (12 Magnet Internal Sensor)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

eProdigy is a Canada-based electric bike company that has been producing and selling a range of mid-drive products since 2011. Their Achiever motors are compact, efficient, and in the case of the Magic and Magic Pro… very powerful. This is an ebike that was designed from the ground up to be approachable, comfortable, and utilitarian. The base model comes with a smaller battery and traditional 9-speed Shimano Alivio derailleur but the Magic Pro, which is the focus of this review, comes with a continuously variable transmission (CVT) NuVinci drivetrain. For those who are unfamiliar, the NuVinci N380 can be shifted at standstill and uses a slide of 380-degrees vs. stepped gears. There’s no mashing or clunking, and this is especially relevant when paired with a centerdrive because there’s more power going through the drivetrain (your legs power and the motor). The NuVinci hub adds a bit of weight and friction, but works perfectly with the Gates carbon belt drive for clean, quiet operation. In order to offer the N380 or upgraded NuVinci Harmony (which provides automatic electronic shifting for $499 more), the Magic Pro was designed with a cutaway frame for the belt to fit on. The frame only comes in one size, to keep the price down, but is offered in two colors. With hardware like the adjustable angle stem, swept-back handlebar, and wide range of saddle heights, it remains approachable even though there’s only one frame size.

There is so much to say about this electric bicycle, many things that set it apart and make it both enjoyable and utilitarian. Take the wheel size and tire choice for example; eProdigy opted for a middle-sized 27.5″ diameter vs. 26″ or 28″ and this allows for a blend of approachability (the frame sits closer to the ground) and comfort (the slightly larger wheel size can span cracks, overcome obstacles, and provide more cushion because of increased air volume). They chose Premium Schwalbe tires based on their highly puncture-resistant casing and reflective sidewalls. Even the rims have been upgraded with reinforcement eyelets to improve strength. The bike fork and frame have reflective accents, and the headlight and backlight are wired-in, running off of the main battery. There are some drawbacks to consider here however: the rear light is a bit basic with only one LED and the kickstand is fitted with an adapter vs. a standard tab, the fork is rigid vs. using suspension, the plastic fenders can rattle a bit, and the motor makes a whirring noise regardless of power level. Frankly, there aren’t many products out there that offer a belt drive, the NuVinci systems, battery capacity choices, and a sturdy step-thru frame. Notice how the downtube and seat tube are reinforced with an additional bar for strength. The bike felt stable and tracked well during my test rides in Burnaby, Canada. One of the founding team members, Melody, even hopped on for a test ride. She’s 5’2″ (157.48 cm) and was able to mount and pedal comfortably while still having room to lower the saddle more if she had wanted. Owners of this bike can lower the motor power and even reduce the top speed… they can disable the throttle completely to go from Class 2 to Class 1 if needed, but I love how the trigger throttle overrides assist for easy starts and those times when you might want to rest your legs. The Magic Pro is a wonderful addition to thee eProdigy lineup, my favorite model to date, and it’s the platform that is being used for their new rental program in Vancouver called Bees Knees Rentals.

Driving the Magic, Magic Pro with NuVinci N380, and Magic Pro with NuVinci Harmony is the same 750 watt Achiever mid-motor. This is a proprietary canister drive system that is very compact, but capable. Its peak output reaches 1,000 watts and I’m told the torque can be as high as 120 Newton meters. That’s significantly more than Bosch, Yamaha, Shimano and the other big name brands that hover around 70 to 80 Nm. For someone who weighs more or expects to climb a lot of hilly terrain, the extra torque is a great thing. However, that force is all transmitted into the chain or belt and the gearing system, and there’s no fancy shift detection to keep it from straining the drivetrain. It’s less of an issue with the sturdy Gates carbon belt drive and CVT hubs, but the base-level Magic (with that 9-speed cassette) could take some damage if you don’t shift carefully. I found the 12-magnet cadence sensor to be very responsive, but it’s not as dynamic as a torque or torque+cadence sensor… so you’ll really want to ease off or even tap the brakes when shifting gears if you get the standard Magic. Coming back to the Magic Pro with the CVT hub, you can shift however you want… even when using the throttle, because there are no steps in the gearing. It cannot mash and there’s only one belt ring cog and one rear sprocket so the belt cannot drop off. Many shops and brands that work with the Gates belt drive system have told me that it is extremely reliable and clean. It’s also quiet, but the Achiever motor does produce some whirring noise when in use, so the quiet is spoiled a bit. I love that both the chain or belt are covered by a full-length plastic chain cover to keep your pant legs or dress ends clean and snag-free. Both wheels are covered by durable plastic fenders with rubber flaps. I noticed that they utilized double support stays to reduce rattling, which is great. All things considered, I welcome and appreciate this proprietary motor system because it’s aesthetically pleasing, powerful, and compatible with a throttle while most other mid-motors are not.

Powering the base level Magic is a 48 volt 8.7 amp hour battery pack, but the Pro models come with a higher capacity 14.5 amp hour battery. It doesn’t weigh much more, I’m guessing under one pound, and is physically the same size. It’s just using fancier “high-capacity” Lithium-ion cells. For people who might wish to upgrade the battery on the stock Magic ebike, eProdigy only charges $375. The higher capacity 696 watt hour battery will help you ride further or move more weight and climb more effectively. It’s a neat upgrade, and there are many ways to spend the energy… not just the motor. The integrated lights are efficient but do draw a bit of power from the pack, the backlit display is the same, and both the battery and display panel have USB ports built in for running or charging portable electronic devices! I’ve seen many ebikes that only have a USB port on the battery, and this requires a long cord that could get snagged while pedaling. By having a port up at the display panel, you could charge your phone, an additional light, a GPS device, or maybe some fun Christmas lights while riding. Once you reach your destination, the main battery pack could be removed for charging or to use as backup power. I frequently remove the battery from my ebike to fill up at work and to keep it out of the hot sun or cold winter air. Extreme temperatures can be hard on Lithium-ion packs and it’s best to keep them charged up and avoid going under 20% to keep the cells from stressing. Thankfully, eProdigy has opted for high-quality Panasonic cells here, which are known for being long lasting and reliable. All things considered, the battery pack is sturdy (being encased in aluminum alloy), well designed (with a handle for easy carrying), and positioned well on the frame (low and center for balance). The charger is a bit basic, only putting out 2 amps vs. 3 or 4, but is compact and lightweight.

Operating this bike is a cinch, once the battery pack has been charged and locked onto the frame, you simply hold the center button on the rubberized control pad which is mounted near the left grip. The monochrome LCD boots up, displaying your current speed, battery level, and assist level 0-5. Level zero disables pedal assist and the throttle, but allows the display and lights to run. Weighing in at roughly 58 lbs with the NuVinci N380 and high-capacity battery, this isn’t the lightest ebike… but the rear rack, fenders, and lights all contribute, and it’s also not the heaviest bike out there by any means. So pedaling it around without assist is possible, especially with the efficient tires, as long as you have them aired up appropriately (higher pressure is more efficient but less comfortable). Speaking of comfort, the ergonomic grips and gel saddle feel very good, but I’d probably purchase a 30.9 mm seat post suspension if I was riding far or expecting bumpy road conditions. Back to the display, you can activate the lights by holding the up arrow and activate walk mode by holding the down arrow. Simply clicking these buttons will raise or lower assist, and I love how the throttle is active with full power anytime you’re using 1-5 assist, it’s not capped by the level. Considering that the trigger throttle offers variable power output, it’s just nice to be able to really juice it to catch up with a friend or climb a short hill… but leave your pedal assist down in a more modest 1 or 2 level for pedaling. This display is fairly large, and it can swivel a bit to reduce glare, but it is not removable. I feel like it’s well protected at the center of the riser handlebar, but it could still get scratched at a rack and take some sun and rain damage over time. The systems should all be highly water resistant (eProdigy is based in Vancouver where it rains after all). I appreciate how most of the wires are internally routed through the frame, and how nicely the blend in on the dark grey colored frame, but the white one might be safer for early morning and night rides.

I really enjoyed covering the eProdigy Magic Pro and catching up with Melody Chan to hear about their rental program. Electric bikes can empower people to commute to work without knee and hip strain or sweat, they can flatten hills, reduce the effects of high wind, and they can enable us to ride together if skill levels differ. They are super efficient, especially mid-motors, and in this case super intuitive (with the shifting at standstill or electronic auto-shift option). I haven’t explained that much… but for $499 extra, the NuVinci Harmony lets you set a preferred pedal cadence, and then it automatically shifts to allow you to pedal with the same force and at the same speed by slowing the bike down or speeding it up. It’s a very unique option, one that lets you focus more on the surroundings vs. shifting. I feel that the grip shifter on the N380 is also very intuitive, and the control pad is reachable and simple enough to be enjoyable by less tech savvy riders. I realize that shifting gears can be confusing and intimidating for some riders, and then you add a little computer into the mix and it can feel overwhelming. The eProdigy system is very intuitive and also durable with the NuVinci CVT, you won’t grind gears or damage it at bike racks or if the bike tips as easily. Yes, the bike costs a bit more with these options, but they should last. That also goes for the company, they are super friendly and provide an excellent two-year comprehensive warranty with all of their products. For those who want to commute with the bike, the rear rack was sturdy and had both pannier hangers as well as bungee loops. The kickstand is positioned out of the way, the pedals are large and sturdy, the adjustable stem is simple to use and doesn’t even require tools. One of my favorite aspects of this ebike however, is that it comes with adjustable hydraulic disc brakes that have motor inhibiting levers for instant stops. The bike feels natural and safe, it gives you lots of control, and I think it looks great as well. Big thanks to eProdigy for partnering with me on this post and to Melody for meeting with me. I’ll do my best to answer questions in the comments below and welcome you to join in the discussion and post stories and photos in the eProdigy Forums!

Pros:

  • Extremely clean, quiet, and durable drivetrain, this ebike uses a Gates carbon belt drive instead of a traditional chain, there’s no derailleur or cassette at the back so it’s less likely to go out of tune or get damaged
  • Instead of changing gears, you smoothly adjust through a 380-degree range of cadence options using the NuVinci N380 continuously variable transmission hub, you can adjust this whether the bike is moving or stopped
  • The battery and motor are positioned very well on the Magic Pro, both are kept low and centered on the frame which improve handling and stability
  • The bike only comes in one frame size but it’s extremely easy to approach and mount because of the wave step-thru design, and you can dial in fit with the adjustable angle quill stem and swept-back riser handlebar
  • I was really impressed with the high power and torque of the proprietary Achiever mid-motor, it offers 750 watts nominal and up to 120 Newton meters of torque for easy starts and effective climbing
  • Excellent utility and safety here with reflective puncture-resistant tires from Schwalbe, reflective accents on the fork seat tube and rear rack support, integrated front and rear LED lights, a sturdy built-in rack with pannier hangers, and a chain cover and full-length fenders
  • The motor is very compact, almost hidden compared with many other mid-drive solutions… it doesn’t offer fancy shift detection and it does produce some whirring noise when driven at full power, but it’s actually pretty impressive for an off-brand part (compared to Shimano, Brose, Yamaha, or Bosch)
  • eProdigy is offering two versions of this ebike and the more expensive pro model comes with a high-capacity battery pack that fits into the same downtube interface, it provides 48 volts and 14.5 amp hours making it above-average for longer or more powerful rides
  • Very few mid-drive powered electric bikes offer throttle operation but the Magic and Magic Pro do! It’s a handy option for people who might not be able to pedal comfortably or those who need help getting started
  • The cadence sensor that activates the motor when pedaling is completely internalized and well protected, it felt very responsive to me but you can also just override using the throttle for immediate power
  • Minor praises here, I like the adjustable kickstand, sturdy alloy pedals, quality rims with reinforcement eyelets, and internally routed brake/shifter/electrical cables (even though some cables are exposed below the bottom bracket), the black frame really hides the cables and battery pack well but the white frame color could be safer in low light – keeping you more visible from the sides, it’s nice to have a choice
  • The frame felt pretty responsive and stiff despite being a step-thru, you can see the little brace tube near the base of the downtube (where it meets the seat tube), this still won’t be as stiff as a high-step, but it’s a lot more approachable
  • Both the battery pack and display panel have a full-sized USB 2.0 charging port so you could maintain a phone, Garmin GPS device, or other portable electronic accessory on the go and when parked
  • Unique wheel size here, the 27.5″ diameter splits the difference between a low frame height 26″ vs. a low attack angle 700x 28″ (it’s a balance of approachability and comfort)
  • Great brakes, you get easy-pull hydraulic disc brakes with average sized 160 mm rotors, and both levers offer adjustable reach for smaller or gloved hands and they also have motor inhibitors built in for immediate power cutoff

Cons:

  • The NuVinci N380 adds to the weight and price of the bike, there’s a special fluid inside that enables shifting but this also produces some friction that reduces efficiency compared to a traditional cassette
  • There’s no suspension fork here but the ergonomic grips, comfort saddle, and fatter 2.0″ tires provide decent comfort, you could always purchase a basic 30.9 mm suspension seat post like this to reduce impact on rough streets
  • The display and button pad are easy to use and relatively easy to see, you can swivel the display a bit to reduce glare, but it is not removable and could get scratched or just take more weather-wear if you park outside at a public bike rack
  • Minor consideration here, the charging port for the battery is positioned near the left crank arm and could expose the wire to snags or bumps if you’re charging it on the bike, just be careful
  • Minor consideration, there are no bottle cage bosses anywhere on the bike, it seems like there might have been room on the seat tube, but I can see how that would have exposed an accessory to being kicked when mounting or dismounting, consider using a basic trunk bag like this with a bottle holster instead
  • The rear light only has one LED, it doesn’t blink or do anything besides a constant on and it’s just a little basic… but at least it runs off of the main battery pack vs. disposable cells and turns on with the control panel vs. an independent switch :)
  • Weighing in at nearly 58 lbs, this isn’t the lightest electric bike, but at least the 7.4 lb battery is removable if you do need to lift it or perform maintenance
  • eProdigy has limited dealer reach in the USA which could make finding and test riding a unit a bit difficult… but they also sell online, be prepared to do a little setup work in this case, the company has been around since 2011 and is super friendly so that’s nice

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Mike R
1 week ago

HooRay! Finally, a mid drive ebike thats both powerful and has a throttle! The thicker tires are a better choice for here in Midwest, as most buyers here prefer that. Nuvinci and Gates belt are a nice touch too. On $3000 ebike though, they certainly could have put a bit higher end LCD display on it.

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court
1 week ago

Hey Mike! I agree with you, this electric bicycle offers a unique combination of features… and perhaps they opted for a more basic display because of the USB port built in? A few of the high-end ebike displays also have this (in the form of Micro USB) but they aren’t sold to work with a proprietary motor like eProdigy uses. It would be nice if this display was removable but overall, I think it’s a pretty decent choice :)

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Mike H
6 days ago

Are the Magic bikes currently available (12-Jun-2018)? I followed the links to the eProdigy web site and found nothing about the Magic or Magic Pro bikes.

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court
5 days ago

Hi Mike! I called Melody Chan (the woman in the video) asking about the availability of the Magic models and she said that the website has been undergoing some updates but they are available and you could call the company to ask questions and place an order (888) 928-9328 good luck :D

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Court
2 months ago

Following are some of the original comments that were made on that post:

WARP
I understand that you’re only showing bikes that you reviewed, but so I would like to add a few suggestions of my own.
The reason is that I have been looking for a e-assist bike for my wife. The options are quite limited for extra short people. My wife is 5′ and her inseam is around 28 inches. She likes to have a bit of clearance when straddling the bike.
A lot of the e-bikes that come in only one size are non starters. In the regular bicycle world, many bikes come in at least 3, often more. That’s why it’s frustrating to shop for e-bikes, they usually start at a men’s medium or large. For my wife, she needs a bike made for petite women, and even then she needs XS or XXS to enable her to comfortably straddle the top bar (top tube). Although the folding models would probably work, we want to go with a full sized wheel for more stability
And it’s not just matter of standover clearance, a low step over frame doesn’t mean a great fit either….for example, we tried out the Easy Motion Evo Easy Street, and she was way stretched out on that frame, even though she can easily straddle the frame. She looked a bit lost sitting on that bike….coming from her 44cm road bike frame, the one size fits all Easy Motion looked like a tank.
The companies that are real bike companies often the best range of sizing. Examples that would probably work for her:
Raleigh Detour iE Step-Through – comes in a small size in a low step frame.
Trek Conduit+ – Small size would fit somebody who’s around 155cm (or just over 5′)
Trek Lift+ – has a men’s and also a low stepover model and comes in small size
Devinci Newton S Bionx – comes in three sizes. The WF is a women’s model and comes in a Small (which is smaller than the men’s Small)
In the end, I’m probably going to build my own bike for my wife around a Bionx kit, we can choose an XS frame and use the rack mount Bionx kit. Ideally we would have liked to buy a complete e-bike, but this way gives us the best option for getting a fit she’s comfortable with.

COURT
Hi warp, I can understand your frustration… It’s uplifting to hear how much energy and time you’ve spent trying to find a perfect fit for your wife and I think the BionX option is a good one. Kits definitely have their place but I can understand the desire to have a more turnkey solution as well. The good news is that more and more electric bikes are being produced each year and a wider variety of sizes and shapes have come to market. Companies https://electricbikereview.com/pedego/24-step-thru-comfort-cruiser/ have started selling more models with 24″ wheels and the step-thru frame. I realize reach may still be an issue but with a bit of effort adjusting the bars (or even a replacement bar) the bikes can become more accessible to petite riders.

WARP
Yes, we’re looking for a “regular looking” fitness style hybrid, and even though some of those cruiser designs would fit, we’d prefer a design that is geared toward sporty riding. e.g. she’d riding with me when I’m on my full carbon road bike, for both speed and giving her a boost on the hilly parts.

RALPH LINIADO
Warp, I just read this thread. My wife is petite at 5′ just like your wife. We stopped into Small Planet Bikes in Dallas last season, the day after Court was there doing some tests. I was excited that they had the Evo Street as I had heard it was just what a small framed women would like, but my wife hated the bike. It didn’t fit. We tried everything he had and nothing worked. The salesman than suggested the Easy Pedelar T350, and inexpensive bike that is the heart of their rental fleet. My wife rode the bike and loved it. It was under $2,000 and we bought one on the spot to be shipped to us in Florida. I had never heard of the brand, yet I bought it without any research. Turns out https://electricbikereview.com/ez-pedaler/t350/ just the day before as I came to find out when he posted his review.
This is a small step thru bike. It has lights, a rack, a bell, and it is built like a tank. My wife thinks it is beautiful. Obviously the reason why they have a rental fleet of them at Small Planet, which is a great shop and all electric bikes. They had everything you could imagine on the floor. Fantastic. My wife loves it because it fits her small frame. It’s not as elegant as some of the other big name bikes, but it fits and it works great. I had it shipped to my local LBS who charged me $25 to put the handle bars on it and away we went. Hope this helps.

COURT
Awesome advice Ralph, thanks for taking the time to help and share your experience :)

RAY T
thanks for the comment….the bike you bought seems like a decent value for under $2K. Looks pretty comfy and it seems like a great choice for a small rider with its downsized wheels and low step frame.
I went ahead with my original plan to build my own. So I took a 13″ Trek 7.4 FX Womens, and added a Bionx rear mount kit. This is pretty much the smallest adult bike that Trek makes (and smaller than many other brands offer). I would have much preferred the battery to be on the frame but the bike frame is so small it wouldn’t fit. The rear battery rack makes the bike very rear heavy but that’s the tradeoff to get a bike that fits. here is https://flic.kr/p/H9C2Lu.
It ended up costing about $3K, which is higher than I wanted to spend, but at least we got a bike that fits right with a good e-assist system from a proven manufacturer. Now we’re itching to put some miles on it

JOHN HESLIN
Hi – really enjoy your reviews! Wondering if I can ask for your opinion. Are 20″ folding bikes too cramped for the average rider? I saw your E joe video and I think I can probably “fit” but at 5′ 10″ / 220 lbs. I’m not really sure. I’m a recreational user and ride mostly for exercise so pedaling is important. The key issue for me is whether the typical 20″ folding bike be pedaled normally with full leg extention? Thanks.

COURT
Great question John, folding bicycles tend to have longer seat posts to reduce that cramped leg feeling… My knees get sore and feel sensitive if they aren’t extending fully so I can relate to your concern (I’m 5’9″ by the way). On of the folding ebikes that felt lager to me was the https://electricbikereview.com/pedego/latch/ (notice the first photograph shows the seat fully extended). The downside here is that the Latch is heavier and has a rear-mounted battery, but at least it’s removable for easier transport. The founderf of Pedego are larger guys who weigh a bit more and I feel like the motor power and overall strength of the frame are designed to accommodate them. https://electricbikereview.com/gocycle/g2/ also felt large and had suspension to soften the bumps and the https://electricbikereview.com/tern/node-d8-with-bionx/ is also a bit larger with 24″ wheels vs. the standard 20″ that lifts the frame up higher and improves ride quality a bit given the narrower tires. I hope these ideas help you find a good product that will work well for your intended use, folding bikes usually present a compromise but there is a nice variety to choose from these days :)

ALASTAIR CAMPBELL
These are good reviews but none of them focus in on my requirements. Are there any ebikes with the following attributes: Pedal assist only, top speed on hills of 10 kms (6mph), 100 km. range (60 Miles), panier. puncture proof tires, small frame, minimum bike weight up to 45 pounds, can fit on a standard bike rack. This bike will be needed on bike trips with ordinary pedal bikes so no need to go fast up hills. Price up to $3,000 US. Want financial stability of manufacturer and a ‘vast’ dealer network in North America. Reasonable quality of components not made in China.

COURT
Hi Alastair! Thanks for sharing your detailed list of “must haves”. No ebikes I know of even come close to what you’re asking here because they are mostly all produced from parts made in China… especially in the sub $5,000 range. Most weigh at least 45 lbs and the vast majority are 50+ lbs and the speed up hills is so dependent on rider weight, cargo and environment (like wind) that I cannot say for sure. My first thought for you was the https://electricbikereview.com/kalkhoff/sahel-compact-impulse-8/ but it’s heavier than you want. A light weight ebike that isn’t as powerful but fits your other requirements (besides price) is the https://electricbikereview.com/faraday/cortland-s/. Hope this helps! You can use the advanced search tool on the right rail of each page here to narrow down by price, weight etc.

MARK
GOOD JOB COURT !!!

COURT
Hey mark, glad you enjoyed this article! Thanks for the props :D

FRED
Old thread but I thought I’d share. I have the same challenge for my wife. She’s 4’11”. We went with an XS Specialized Vita paired with a Bionx system with the battery mounted on the down tube. They had to drill a hole in the batter bracket mount given the odd position of the bottle cage mounts, but it fits great and balances the weight out nicely. Call the https://hostelshoppe.com/ and ask for big Scott. They are a dealer for both specialized and bionx.
If your wife has a 28″ inseam without shoes, she might fit on a Specialized Turbo for women. Standover is about 29″ in the Small. I’m going to beg them to make an XS and also ask if they have plans to motorize the fat boys. The Helga has a 26″ standover height and should be able to fit the bionx as well if the down tube triangle is at least as big as the Vita.

COURT
Hey Fred! Sounds like you and your wife got set up at the Hostel Shoppe, thanks for sharing your tips and ESPECIALLY the measurements around the small Turbo for women. I’ve been really impressed with the Specialized lineup of ebikes in different styles and sizes so far… maybe we will see an XS and a motorized fat boy someday :)

FRED
That would be sweet! You’re welcome for the info. The guys at the hostel shoppe are top notch. People come from all over the Midwest to go there.

GIL
I want my wife to be able to ride with me – at least 20 miles with light hills. She’s 5’2 about 250 lbs and has a bad knee. We’ve been looking at ebikes and understand we’ll probably need a small frame (15 inch?). She wants to look at options and try them out in the Chicago area – or southwest Michigan. Want pedal assist for physical therapy but also full throttle to coast. What models do you recommend we check out? Can you recommend a store(s) to try them out? Also, I want to be able to transport the ebike on my car. I only have a trunk mount bike rack – no hitch. Other option to consider is a folding bike that could fit inside the trunk or back seat. What recommendations do you have for such bike carrying capability?

COURT
Hi Gil, thanks for explaining your goals so well… I think I understand and can relate given that my own girlfriend is about 5’2″ and has had some struggles with mid-step models (even women’s frames) that we’ve tried. Since you’re in the Chicago area, one brand that comes to mind is https://electricbikereview.com/brand/volton/, they’re based there and the founder Joe is really cool. I just reviewed their latest model which is a mid-drive step-thru but they sell a very similar one with a hub motor that’s less expensive and has throttle on demand. I’d recommend going to their website and calling him. To carry this model or many of the step-thru ebikes out there with your trunk mount bike rack you’ll probably need a crossbar adapter https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ELSSZE/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&tag=elecbikerevi-20&camp=1789&creative=9325&linkCode=as2&creativeASIN=B000ELSSZE&linkId=7b2e5668a19575e25cca7cd87df72a46 and I’d recommend taking the battery off the bike before loading to reduce weight… and always mount it close to the car so it’s not hanging way out since even the frames tend to be heavier than normal bicycles. A couple other low-step models with assist and throttle that might be worth exploring are the [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/e-joe/gadis/']e-Joe Gadis[/URL], and the [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/easy-motion/evo-city-wave/']Easy Motion Evo City Wave[/URL] which looks beautiful but costs a bit more… given that they are a larger company (with a great warranty) and were sold in 2015 and 2016 you might be able to get a deal on “last year” inventory at your local ebike shop :)
As far as folding bikes go, they do tend to be smaller but not always lighter. Here’s [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/category/folding/']the full list[/URL] of models I’ve reviewed recently and you can also use the advanced search to look for compact models that don’t fold but are smaller and lighter. One consideration with folding is that they tend to be less comfortable due to the smaller wheels. If you can get a regular bike with 24″ or 26″ with the deep step-thru design that would probably be more enjoyable for your wife. I hope this helps! I realize there are a lot of options out there… Consider asking in the forums, there’s a section called “[URL='https://electricbikereview.com/forum/forums/choosing/']help choosing an electric bike[/URL]” I made for this exact sort of situation :D

GIL
Thanks for your thorough reply. Most helpful was the recommendation for a crossbar adapter.
I think I may have the choice down to the final 2: X-treme Malibu Beach Cruiser or Prodecotech Stride 300. The Malibu front wheel can easily be removed so I can put the bike in the back seat. The Stride comes in a fold-able model so I could put it in the trunk. The challenge remains that there’s no place close to home for my wife to try out either one prior to a purchase.
One other thing suggested by the guy at FarBike.com is that I wait til early Spring to make a purchase as riding in Chicago’s winter is unlikely. Purchasing closer to the time of use means a fresher battery.

COURT
Hey Gil, glad my tips helped you a bit. The Spring will bring all new models to bear and give you some time to think. In the mean time, feel free to poke around [URL='http://electricbikereview.com/forum/']the EBR Forums[/URL] and share your experience or ask more questions. I’ve made a few real life friends there and it’s fun to geek out about bikes and consider different options :)

ANNETTE NELSON
I am 4’9″ and 67 yrs old and trying get out of my house a little more. LOST MY HUSBAND 2 1/2 yrs ago and have suffered from depression and need sunshine. I thought an electric bike would be a good way to do it and guarantee my ability to get home should I go a little too far..I HAVE HAD 11 back surgeries and still have some back pain.
I bought a PRODECO MARINER 500. online and received it the day after Thanksgiving. Thank goodness my sons were here to help me put it together and watch me ride it. THE SALESMAN ON THE PHONE TOLD ME THAT I should have no problems riding it even hough I TOLD HIM MY HEIGHT AND THE concerns I had being able to lift my leg over the tall center bar. WELL! THERE WAS NO WAY I could lift my leg that high to get onto the bike. MY SONS HELD THE BIKE WHILE I lifted my leg using my hands and rode it down the block. Then to get off of the bike. I stopped, then my sons each grabbed the bike while I used my hands to lift my leg…when I STARTED FALLING BECAUSE I couldn’t get my leg over. One of my sons grabbed me and his fingers broke my ribs. I CONTACTED THE STORE AND THEY RECOMMENDED A STEP TROUGH BIKE? What can you recommend

COURT
Hi Annette, sounds like you’ve had a rough experience with electric bikes so far… they do tend to be heavier and many of the cheaper models only come in one frame size and style. ProdecoTech has a range of options but it sounds like you would do better with a true step-thru like the [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/pedego/boomerang/']Pedego Boomerang[/URL]. This particular brand has a bunch of dealers across the US so you can actually try the bike before deciding to buy. Also, the rest of my tips and suggestions on this page still stand. You can get further suggestions by connecting with others [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/forum/forums/choosing/']in the forums[/URL] or using the advanced search tools here on the site. I Hope this helps!

TRISH
Hi, I am an older(50+) rider. I don’t feel as comfortable on my 26″ wheel bike anymore as sometimes my sense of balance just feels a bit off. I also have some problems with arthritis etc. But I still want to go on adventures for as long as I can! So I am looking for an ebike that can go on trails, (there are some very cool rail trails here in BC, but sometimes there are portions that are a bit rough.) so probably a fat bike style for comfort. I am thinking a 350W motor should be plenty? I need a rack for my camping gear. My issue is that I am only 5′ and want a bike I can comfortably put my feet down if I feel wobbly. Even the 20″ tire bikes seem to have quite a high seat. I am not rolling in cash LOL, so don’t want to spend more than 1500.00 CAN. I was thinking of cobbling together some bikes we have around and putting a hub motor on it. But it looks like hub kits plus battery is going to cost me over 1000.00 CAN anyways? Seems its the batteries that cost the most by far. Any ideas? Thanks!

COURT
Hey Trish! I was thinking the Pedego 20″ Trail Tracker would be a good fit in terms of lower stand-over height and having those fat tires… but it is priced a bit higher. I can’t think of too many kits that work with small fat tires but I’ll keep my mind on it and perhaps you can ask [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/forum/']in the forums[/URL] to see if anyone else has an idea for you :)

MAE
I’m interested in going to an ebike, but I don’t want to jump into a large investment until I know that I like them. So I’m thinking about starting off by purchasing an ebike conversion kit to put on my current bike. I am only interested in pedal assist. Does anyone know of a conversion kit that offers pedal assist? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer. Mae

COURT
Hi Mae! There are many kits out there to choose from but I’ve reviewed a few [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/category/kits/']here[/URL]. I realize it can seem like a big investment but purpose built ebikes tend to just work better… I know a few people who tried to get a deal the first time around and had buyer’s remorse pretty quickly then upgraded to a more well-built ebike. This is part of the reason I don’t review kits as much these days. If you have a local ebike shop, I’d highly recommend visiting and doing some test rides before pulling the trigger on anything. In any case, good luck and please share your experiences :D

MAE
Hi Court. Thanks for the advice on purpose built ebikes. Wondering if you have ever reviewed the x-treme Sedona step through ebike. It is quite affordable at $1100, but I don’t see where it has been reviewed or has any buyer comments. I’m also considering these ebikes: Izip Vibe plus, Raleigh Sprite iE, Prodecotech stride series, Genze recreational e102, Tidal Wave, and Magnum ui5. Any helpful information you can offer about any of these bikes – good or bad – would be appreciated. I love your reviews and your love of this sport.

COURT
Hi Mae! I had a pretty good experience with the GenZe and Magnum products. Raleigh Sprite iE is also a good product from a larger company (with more dealers and a good warranty). I haven’t seen as much ProdecoTech stuff lately and have never seen X-Treme products… They caught my interest of course, people ask occasionally but I just don’t see them in shops and don’t know anyone who has bought one. Here’s [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u188uF4Pt9w']an interesting video[/URL] interview I did with the President of Raleigh Electric talking about the value of more expensive ebike products as I realize the trade off in cost can raise some questions.

DEWEY
Regarding converting a pedal bicycle, an interesting source of ideas for donor frames for shorter riders is [URL='https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j3f51td6emppjuBaTNjZXgtVPK923HtOudacuyt-g0Y/']this spreadsheet[/URL] on the City Bike subReddit – a list of step through pedal bikes available in North America with links to the manufacturer websites then you can check what frame sizes are available and where your nearest dealer is located.

COURT
Cool, thanks for the tip Dewey! Did you create a conversion ebike for yourself or find one that fit straight away that was already electric?

DEWEY
My thinking before converting my pedal bicycle was to make it easier for my local bike shop to help with the conversion and maintenance. I experimented with a [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/clean-republic/hill-topper/']24V hill topper kit[/URL] but I found it didn’t help me up the hills I climb so I bought a [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/8fun/bbs01/']36V BBS01 crank motor kit[/URL]. I would like the more torquey [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/8fun/bbs02/']48V BBS02 kit[/URL] but I need to stay under the [URL='https://www.markelinsurance.com/bicycle/resources/electric-bikes']750W 20mph[/URL] limit for e-bike liability insurance purposes.

ANDREJA
I am overweight, tend to feel unstabile on bikes, often am too short for various models (164cm and 100kg). Sometimes, because of the size of my belly, I can’t fully lift my leg. Can you suggest something for me? Regards from Croatia! :)

COURT
Hi Andreja, I think the first step would be to search for any electric bike dealers in Croatia. If you aren’t able to find one where you can go in for a test ride then it makes sense to look online. Unfortunately, I don’t think many brands will ship around the world and I’m based in the USA… so? who knows. But! One shop that has told me they will ship internationally is Motostrano in California. [URL='http://www.motostrano.com/']Here is their website[/URL], they have lots of ebikes and surely sell one that might work for you but they tend to be expensive. Another option is to see if [URL='https://sondors.com/']Sondors[/URL] will ship to your location, they have a cheaper folding model that might fit you and feel stable because it has fat tires.

ANDREJA
Thank you for your promt answer. Let’s say I have an option of buying suitable product whereever, hence I would be very interested in a model you can suggest, regarding the detals I described earlier. My problem is I can’t find right model that is suitable for overweight people. If you can suggest few, I would be grateful. :)

COURT
Hmm, I think the [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/pedego/24-step-thru-interceptor/']step-thru Pedego with the smaller 24″ wheels[/URL] is a great option. You can get it with pedal assist and throttle and it will be easier to mount and stronger for added weight. Beyond that, I like the [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/eprodigy/banff/']eProdigy Banff[/URL] and depending on how tall you are, the [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/corratec/lifebike/']Corratec Lifebike[/URL].

DAYRATE
How are the RadMini and Voltbike Mariner looked upon for rider height suitability? At 5’9″, like you, I figure either would be great for me, however, at 5’3″, I wonder about my wife fitting on one of these bikes. We are very interested in the Mariner. The frame geometry specs I have read don’t seem out of line with her height, what’s your opinion? Thanks for your well written and produced bike reviews!

COURT
Yeah, [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/voltbike/mariner/']the Mariner[/URL] is a pretty good ebike for petite riders, my girlfriend is similar in height to your wife and she had a blast riding it on the beach. She also tried [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/rad-power-bikes/radmini/']the RadMini[/URL] but I think the clamp design bumped her knee and thigh more easily. That one seems to have a higher stand over design as well. The cool thing about both products is that they use fat tires which are very stable and add some comfort when riding over bumps :)

BROCK HARVEY
Wow, what a fantastic article, and there’s even more information in the comments. You guys are all incredible!
I recently found [URL='http://www.ireviews.com/comparisons/5-best-smart-bikes-2017']this article[/URL], but I’m looking for some validity to their claims from people much more experienced than I.
Any info would be incredibly beneficial, so I’d really appreciate it! I’m looking to really change my life around in terms of my fitness. I’m 29, have a bit of expendable cash, live in a very cycle friendly city, so I think this could be a life changing purchase for me :)
Pretty excited, to say the least. Thanks heaps!

COURT
Hi Brock, thanks for sharing that article! More and more technology is coming to the ebike space and the models in their “five best smart bikes 2017” leaned more towards road and city. Drop bars are still pretty rare but I’ve seen a few from Bosch in recent years. Try exploring here by using the category drop down up top, it might guide you towards the high tech speed models if that’s what you’re into or you can ask around in the forums. My goal is to keep the space open and honest, people are pretty friendly and it’s exciting to share the latest tech but I have also seen that sometimes it never becomes publicly available… more like concept prototypes. All of the ebikes you see here have videos and are actually for sale (or were for sale at one point). If you have any specific questions, feel free to ask.

KERIN
**I am 5’1″ tall, about 140 pounds, and am in my mid 70’s and in good health. I am looking for a small ebike to ride on city streets and easy trails. I would prefer both throttle and pedal assist with a price of no more than $1,500. I live in a small town where there are no ebike dealers within several hundred miles where I can try out a bike to see if it fits. Anything out there that might meet these requirements?**

COURT
Hi Kerin, I speak with a lot of petite riders who choose folding ebikes because they tend to have smaller 20″ wheels that lower the frame and also have step-thru frame designs. I just reviewed [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/velomini/plus/']the VeloMini Plus[/URL] which could work and fits your budget. I like how lightweight it is too.

KERIN
Thank you. The Velomini Plus sounds good. Will the small wheels work successfully on trails that that have a gravel surface rather than being paved? How much assembly is required?

COURT
Hi Kerin! The 1.5″ wide tires aren’t going to be great for gravel, you might want to consider one of the fat folding ebikes for that such as the [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/rad-power-bikes/radmini/']RadMini[/URL] and [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/voltbike/mariner/']Mariner[/URL]. Most mail-order electric bikes require minimal assembly, the VeloMini Plus is especially easy and straightforward, you basically just unfold it :)

LUCY
Anyone have thoughts/advice How is the tern vektron for 5′ 2″ person with a short-ish reach? Ride Brompton now with M handlebars and the reach is a teeny tiny bit too far.
Deciding between Vektron and an Ohm 2017. Love folders ’cause I can take it anywhere….and Ohm is just amazing, too.
LUCY
And now I just rode the trek super commuter. So nice. So many great bikes.

COURT
Yeah, Trek is really doing great this year, lots of ebikes to choose from and the Super Commuter is awesome :D

COURT
Hi Lucy! The Vektron is a great bike one of the highest quality around right now (in large part because it uses Bosch). I’ll be reviewing some new OHM models soon and will record all of the measurements like reach and stand over height to help you decide. If you want light and compact, I think the [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/velomini/plus/']VeloMini Plus[/URL] is pretty cool.

LUCY
Looking forward to that review! I did, however, already purchase the Trek Super Commuter. I know! The most money I could spend in one place, like, ever. It was a good fit in the 45cm frame and I have great local bike shop support. I went to the Electric Bike Expo and road a Tern, Ohm didn’t bring their smallest frame, so didn’t get to try that bike. The range on the Trek/Bosch combo (long commute to work) and the excellent local support sold me on Trek. Shout out to Freewheel Bike!

BIKING WITH A LITTLE E-HELP
Hi, I’m looking for an e-bike with good e-power assistance as I am getting older and slower at normal biking especially up inclines… I am 170 cm tall and longish legs so am looking for a medium sized frame but still the space for my legs so that I can reach the ground easily when stopping yet have a good leg extension when pedalling and am not all squished up. Any suggestions of models to look for? TIA

COURT
Do you think you’d want a medium step-thru [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/bulls/cross-lite-e-step-thru/']like this[/URL] for easy mounting or prefer a higher stiffer frame? I just reviewed the [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/ohm/urban-ebike/']OHM Urban[/URL] which has a powerful motor and throttle operation (most mid-drive ebikes do not). They sell it in four sizes so you could dial in fit and the stand over height is reasonable because of the top tube design.

BIKING WITH A LITTLE E-HELP
I’m afraid it really needs to be a much lower instep. She has such the above items asked for on her current e-bike, however the e part is designed for long country rides and has not so much support/power for the city riding that she wishes to have such as being able to take off at the lights with the rest of the riders and keep up speed around the city on short journeys.

Court
2 months ago

Hi guys! I'm moving some content off of the main site and into the most relevant categories of the forum. This post was originally made on January 21st 2017:

Mid drive motors are becoming more popular on electric bicycles because they offer certain strengths over traditional in-wheel hub motors. These include:

[*]Improved frame balance front to rear and reduced frame flex
[*]The ability to leverage a larger cassette, internally geared hub or continuously variable transmission for optimizing RPM and efficiency
[*]Reduced unsprung weight (if the platform in question is a full suspension design)
[*]Easier maintenance for the drivetrain and wheels (as well as less wiring across the frame)

This last two benefits are key for off-road riding where trail maintenance and transporting the bike become a factor. I love mid-drive or centerdrive motors but want to acknowledge that they aren’t perfect for every situation… they do have some limitations and drawbacks worth considering and these include:

[*]Louder operation because they tend to be geared, they tend to produce the most noise in lower gears when the drive unit is spinning at higher RPM
[*]Increased wear on the chain or belt, sprocket teeth and derailleur because the motor is adding force to the drivetrain, often doubling and even tripling your own pedal input! Some mid-drive ebike systems do not offer shift detection to make the motor “ease off” at critical moments when changing gears and this further stresses components
[*]More active shifting and gear changing is required by the rider in order to start the bike, climb efficiently and reach maximum speeds due to limited RPM output at a wider range of operation vs. hub motors which connect directly to the wheel and don’t interface with gears

With this guide my intention is to offer a qualitative overview of the different brands of middrive ebike motors I’ve tested as of 2016 along with quantitative supporting points and specifications. Technology is evolving rapidly in the e-bike space and parts of this guide may become outdated so feel free to chime in using the comments at the end and I’ll make updates as needed. I’m not explicitly ranking the motors here but am starting out with some of the more popular, higher quality offerings. Bosch and Yamaha are two systems that get compared a lot and I’ve created a video with each of their stats and ride tests below to help demonstrate their differences:

Bosch Centerdrive
Bosch has been an innovator and leader in the mid drive motor space, both in Europe and the US, producing some of the most powerful and responsive systems I’ve tested. Companies that use it include https://electricbikereview.com/category/haibike/, https://electricbikereview.com/category/felt/, https://electricbikereview.com/category/trek/, https://electricbikereview.com/category/easy-motion/, https://electricbikereview.com/category/cube/ and others. The Bosch motor uses a smaller 16 tooth or 18 tooth chainring sprocket that spins faster than competing products (close to a 2 to 1 ratio) and is designed by each manufacturer… Some include metal chain guides (Haibike), plastic chain guards (Felt), narrow wide teeth and sprocket equalizing systems (Haibike) for their full suspension electric mountain bikes to raise the chain above the right chain stay, clear debris like mud and reduce kickback as the orientation of the rear cassette changes. There are several versions of this motor with output ranging from 15.5 mph (25 km/h) common in Europe to 20 mph (32 km/h) being the most common in the US and 28 mph (45 km/h) being a specialty motor available on some US models and requiring licensing in Europe. The Bosch electric drive system uses an advanced pedal assist system that listens for pedal torque, pedal speed and rear wheel speed to deliver near-instant motor control (it measures these signals ~1,000 per second). It also delivers a software-driven shift detection feature meant to reduce wear on chains and sprockets. Even with this system, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuSKCSFuxdY have reported more frequent chain breaks and derailleur replacement with thousands of miles of use. The Bosch system does not require brake lever inhibitors because it turns on and off so quickly and I love that it seems to deliver a wide range of RPM speeds allowing it to propel riders to peak speeds in mid level gears, not just the highest gear. One area where Yamaha excels is that it has “Zero Cadence” starts while Bosch will only start once you reach 20 RPM (which is still very responsive). The complaints I have for Bosch include that their motor tends to be louder, producing a high pitched whine as it spins much faster than competing offerings and that it is not available with throttle mode. One of my favorite ways to ride is in a lower level of assist for efficiency and exercise with momentary bursts of throttle to climb, pass riders or get started from zero on mid-drive systems that do offer throttles… Not only does the system lack a normal throttle mode, Bosch has disabled walk mode in the USA for some reason and that’s confusing and frustrating because the button is still there. I have only seen the Bosch system with a single chainring at the front while some competing offerings like Brose and Yamaha are now offering two sprockets for a greater number of gear choices. With Bosch the bicycle manufacturer may choose from 16T, 18T or 20T chainrings and some opt for narrow wide teeth to reduce chain slip for off-road use. The Bosch drive system also costs more and weighs a bit more at ~8.8 lbs (4 kg). I want to call out the removable Intuvia display panel that features an integrated USB charging port for portable electronics. In Europe an even fancier display panel called the Nyon was released which had some early complaints around software bugginess and certainly adds some cost to the bike, it is not known when or if this will reach the US. The chargers I have tested weigh 1.7 lbs and offer 4 Amp power output for relatively fast charging Below are stat charts I’ve created with more details for each version of the Bosch electric bike drive system:

Bosch Gen 1 ( 2012 / 2013 / 2014 ) Power Range (Watts)250 wMax. Torque (Newton meters)50 NmMotor WeightBattery Capacity (Watt hours)(36 v 8.2 ah) 295.2 whBattery Weight5.4 lb (2.45 kg)Shift DetectionSupport LevelsEco: 50% 1-3, Tour: 120% 1-3, Sport: 190% 1-3, Turbo: 275% 1-3Max. Speed15.5 mph (25 km/h)

Bosch Gen 2 / 3 Active Line ( 2013 / 2014 / 2015 / 2016 ) Power Range (Watts)250 w – 350 wMax. Torque (Newton meters)60 NmMotor Weight8.8 lb (4 kg)Battery Capacity (Watt hours)(36 v 11 ah) 396 whBattery Weight5.3 lb (2.4 kg)Shift DetectionYes, (Derailleur Only)Support LevelsEco: 50%, Tour: 120%, Sport: 190%, Turbo: 275%Max. Speed20 mph (32 km/h) in USA, 15.5 mph (25 km/h) in Europe

Bosch Gen 2 / 3 Performance Line Cruise ( 2014 / 2015 / 2016 ) Power Range (Watts)250 w – 350 wMax. Torque (Newton meters)60 NmMotor Weight8.8 lb (4 kg)Battery Capacity (Watt hours)(36 v 11 ah) 396 whBattery Weight5.3 lb (2.4 kg)Shift DetectionYes, (Derailleur Only)Support LevelsEco: 50%, Tour: 120%, Sport: 190%, Turbo: 275%Max. Speed20 mph (32 km/h) in USA, 15.5 mph (25 km/h) in Europe

Bosch Gen 3 Performance Line CX (High Torque) ( 2015 / 2016 ) Power Range (Watts)250 w – 350 wMax. Torque (Newton meters)75 NmMotor Weight8.8 lb (4 kg)Battery Capacity (Watt hours)(36 v 11 ah) 396 whBattery Weight5.3 lb (2.4 kg)Shift DetectionYes, (Derailleur Only)Support LevelsEco: 50%, Tour: 120%, Sport: 210%, Turbo: 300%Max. Speed20 mph (32 km/h) in USA, 15.5 mph (25 km/h) in Europe

Bosch Gen 3 Performance Line Speed ( 2015 / 2016 ) Power Range (Watts)250 w – 350 wMax. Torque (Newton meters)60 NmMotor Weight8.8 lb (4 kg)Battery Capacity (Watt hours)(36 v 11 ah) 396 whBattery Weight5.3 lb (2.4 kg)Shift DetectionYes, (Derailleur Only)Support LevelsEco: 50%, Tour: 120%, Sport: 190%, Turbo: 275%Max. Speed28 mph (45 km/h) in USA and Europe

This first photo album shows the Bosch Gen 1 drive system with the smaller 8.2 amp hour battery pack and HMI display panel that had three levels for each of the four assist settings (eco, tour, sport, turbo) that we still see on later displays like Intuvia and Nyon (which dropped the extra three levels). Note that the display panel stands alone with integrated buttons only vs. a remote button pad and that it is not center mounted.

This second album shows the 2014 / 2015 Bosch Gen 2 Centerdrive that had a larger plastic outer casing and is mounted horizontally. Bosch has explained that it has a 38% larger visual footprint than the 2016 Gen 3 Centerdrive which may be mounted at an angle, mechanically they are much the same.

This third album shows the 2015 /2016 Bosch Gen 3 Performance Line which is tipped up, surrounded with curved matching plastic instead of a flatter all-black case and delivers more torque or higher top speeds (for the CX and High Speed version respectively). Not all Gen 3 batteries will be inset into the frame as we see with the Haibike and not all will have a sprocket equalizing system to lift the chain or narrow wide teeth as seen here.

Bafang BBS02
The standard 8Fun BBS02 kit manufactured by Bafang is a decent mid-drive motor available in a range of sizes from 350 watts to 1,000 watts. My personal favorites are the 500 and 750 watt systems because they comply with federal regulations in the US but still offer plenty of power and potentially even higher speeds like a speed pedelec. I want to call out https://electricbikereview.com/category/e-rad/ because they offer physical shift sensing, a range of bottom bracket sizes and good customer support and warranty coverage. Most of the other BBS02 motors you’ll find on eBay or small online shops do not have the shift sensing support and are not available in different bottom bracket widths so you won’t be able to use them with fat bikes, some full suspension models and brands like Trek and Giant. I believe Luna Cycles may offer a customized BBS02 unit and a shift sensor accessory but have not tested their equipment. Frankly, the stock BBS02 would be much further down my list here without E-RAD. What I like about the motor is that it offers both pedal assist (more basic cadence sensing albeit) as well as throttle operation (twist or trigger) so there are no compromises in terms of ride style. You’ll definitely want brake levers with motor inhibitors with this system because the motor doesn’t stop as quickly as the Bosch Centerdrive and some others on this list. What you do get is lots of of power, relatively quiet operation and with the unlocked kits you can also go much faster (beyond 30 mph). Please, just be careful if you do unlock the motor and consider limiting top speed to ~28 mph as this will classify you as a speed pedelec if the throttle is unused. Anything above 20 mph with the throttle should only be used on private property or national forest where other motorized vehicles are allowed. I have only seen this kit built up with a single chainring to date but it may be possible to modify it to work with two sprockets and I believe there is a Tern + Xtracycle + E-RAD collaboration in the works that may deliver this. While E-RAD does offer some pre-built electric bikes, most customers seem to purchase just the drive system in order to install it on existing frames themselves which could require additional tools and effort. Many customers also prefer to swap out the stock chainring for a RaceFace NW (narrow, wide tooth) sprocket with fewer teeth and better chain tracking for off-road and e-mountain bike use. The smaller sprocket will allow the motor to spin faster and climb better much like the Bosch system described above. Depending on the motor size you get, the weight will change but expect the 350 watt to be around 7 lbs, 750 watt to be 7.7 lbs and the 1000 watt to be around 11.6 lbs.

Impulse
The Impulse drive system is one of the softer, quieter mid-drive motor systems I’ve tested and as a result it is not as immediately impressive as Bosch, Yamaha and some of the others. It’s relatively light weight at 8.37 lbs (3.8 kg) and commonly found on https://electricbikereview.com/category/kalkhoff/ and https://electricbikereview.com/category/focus/ electric bikes and comes in a smaller 250 watt size most frequently. As of 2015 in the US a 350 watt version was introduced for their speed pedelec bikes that can reach ~28 mph. The Impulse 2.0 drive system uses a single, more standard sized chainring and relies on an advanced cadence sensor to measure pedal torque and wheel speed to activate and de-activate. Just like Bosch and Yamaha it does not rely on integrated brake-lever motor inhibitor switches because it’s very responsive. It does however, offer mechanical shift sensing that is some of the best in the business. It actually measures the wires changing position as you shift gears vs. just using software to guess like Bosch. I was able to clearly distinguish when the motor stopped during shifting and it leaves a longer gap in time by default. If you’re into performance however, some of their more advanced display systems will let you alter the timing for shift sensing. I enjoy the 350 watt Impulse speed system the most but appreciate the light weight and quieter operation of the 250 watt for urban style electric bikes. It’s definitely designed for more active riding and required more effort when pedaling than some of the others. Unlike the BBS02 from E-RAD which relies on a cadence sensor that simply senses crank arm forward movement, this one relies more on pedal torque so you have to engage and push actively to get the motor to help out. This system does not seem to be available with throttles and complies more closely with EU regulations than some of the others which are adjusted for the US market to offer more power. That said, I was told that it offers 70 Newton meters of torque which is 10 more than the standard Bosch drive system (keep in mind, the CX from Bosch offers 75 and is used on Haibike models). My experience is that Bosch is still more satisfying and “active feeling” but louder and more zippy than Impulse so depending on your ride style this could be a high quality option. The chainring side of the motor can be difficult to photograph because most ebikes that use the system come with full coverage chain guards, so here’s the opposite side for reference on a Kalkhoff model:

The images below show the high speed version of the Impulse 2.0 and in this case the motor is flipped and protected by a louvered push guard on the downtube and base.

Yamaha
Yamaha is the newest entrant on this list, joining the electric bike space in 2016 in the US. Their system is less complex but costs a whole lot less and works pretty well… as long as you don’t mind huge charging bricks. It uses larger more standard sized chainrings and yes, rings plural! You can have more gears with one of their systems and it’s well suited to off-road use given the higher power rating of 500 watts and 80 Newton meters of torque. Lots of people have wondered how it compares with the Bosch system because https://electricbikereview.com/category/haibike/ offers both on their models and I’d say it’s generally less responsive and more on/off feeling based on pedal torque alone vs. smooth. One big thing that’s missing here in my mind is shift sensing and given the higher power output I wonder what kind of chain, sprocket and derailleur wear owners will encounter with long term use? For the time being, Yamaha is just another mid-drive choice that’s similar to the others for riding around the city but offers higher torque for climbing and the “Zero Cadence” feature which is nice for off-road climbing from rest. One thing that bugged me about it is that the motor seems to have a limited speed range and so, when you’re pedaling in a lower gear (even while using the High mode of assist) the top speed drops and you can’t hit 20 mph as easily. In order to actually hit ~20 mph I had to be in the highest assist level and the highest gear and this really slowed my cadence and put pressure on my knees and muscles. I prefer to spin quickly and have sensitive knees so I kept shifting down but would notice a steep drop off in power and speed as a result. I believe the system relies heavily on torque sensing and may do this to increase range but it’s very frustrating to be riding at high speed towards a hill while mountain biking, shift down to increase cadence for climbing and feel the motor support completely drop out… only to kick back in after you’ve lost 3 to 5 mph ultimately slowing your pedal cadence down again and straining your knees. While testing this system off-road for this guide I found myself shifting all the way down to the lowest gear to reduce my own effort but ended up going very slow as a result. I’d prefer to rush up hills if I could maintain momentum and I just don’t feel like the motor does this if you shift down. If I’m in the highest assist, I want help at 20 mph regardless of the gear I’m in (or at least the top several gears), not just the absolute highest gear. I appreciate that Yamaha has been able to reduce the price of mid-drive e-bikes with their drive system and also enjoyed both of their display panels (a more basic LED console is used for the cheapest bikes) and like how sleek their battery packs look and that they can be charged on and off the frame.

Yamaha Electric Bike System ( 2015 / 2016 ) Power Range (Watts)250 w – 500 wMax. Torque (Newton meters)80 NmMotor Weight7.6 lb (3.45 kg)Battery Capacity (Watt hours)(36 v 11 ah) 396 whBattery Weight6.5 lb (2.95 kg)Shift DetectionNoSupport LevelsEco+: 50%, Eco: 100%, Std: 180%, High: 280%Max. Speed20 mph (32 km/h) in USA, 15.5 mph (25 km/h) in Europe

Shimano STEPS
Shimano entered the US electric bike space in 2015 and delivers more than just a mid-drive motor, they also pair the system with electronic shift sensing in some cases (the https://electricbikereview.com/raleigh/misceo-ie/ for example). Some https://electricbikereview.com/category/trek/ and [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/category/izip/']IZIP[/URL]and [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/category/raleigh/']Raleigh models[/URL] also use the Shimano drive system. Their motor is quieter and less powerful than Bosch, Yamaha and some of the others but offers a nice blend of cadence sensing and torque sensing assist. I love how compact and light weight it is at just ~7.05 lbs as well as its responsiveness. Even the battery packs tend to be light at ~6 lbs depending on whether you get the downtube mount or rear rack design. It uses an advance pedal assist system that measures pedal torque, cadence and wheel speed so it doesn’t require brake lever inhibitors. Much like the Impulse 2.0 system mentioned above, it relies more on torque so you’ll have to pedal actively to get the most power, up to 50 Nm of torque with low 50%, medium 100% and high 200% relative feedback. It opts for a more standard sized chainrings and as of this guide is only available in the 250 watt nominal size (with peak out put closer to 500 watts). Just like Bosch, it relies on software for shift sensing but this feature is only available with the Di2 electronic shifting mentioned earlier and not on traditional mechanical derailleurs or internally geared hubs. This is a big reason why I’ve ranked it below the Impulse system, shifting gears while pedaling with assist can stress the chain and derailleur, produce chunking mashing sounds. Unlike some of the other systems that don’t ease off as you reduce pedaling pressure, the Shimano STePs motor seems more refined and won’t stress the gears as much if you are pedaling gently just before shifting. This is not a motor that offers higher speed ~28 mph operation nor is it available in different power configurations… you’ll mostly find it on neighborhood and city bikes. One other gripe I have about the system is that the 2015-2016 models featured battery packs that had to be removed from the frame in order to charge! All of the other batteries for motors listed above could be charged while left on the frame which reduced the chances of dropping and saves time. You also have to power the battery on for the display to activate vs. doing it all from the button pad up on the bars. I’m told that the next generation of Shimano batteries will let you charge on-frame so here’s to 2017! One neat feature I appreciate about their control pad interface is that it can be used on either the left or right bar (it’s actually the same physical design as their electronic shifter mechanism) and the display panel is removable for safer storage, you can even turn off the backlighting and beeping if you’d like by holding the up and down arrows simultaneously to enter the menu system.

Brose
This is a newer motor to me but one that’s popping up on a lot of electric bikes including the [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/specialized/s-works-turbo-levo-fsr-6fattie/']Specialized Turbo Levo[/URL] and Bulls models. It’s compact, powerful and fairly quiet because a belt drive is used inside verses gears on most of the others. It’s a great performer as a motor but in combination with cassettes, chains and even internally geared hubs it causes me concern because there does not appear to be any sort of shift sensing. I’ve heard more aweful bangs and mashing with this motor than all of the others listed above and while it does offer similar advanced pedal assist (speed, cadence and torque) it’s not instant and may require an adjustment in ride style to reduce strain on your chain, sprockets and derailleur. One thing I do appreciate about the system is how well integrated it and the accompanying battery pack can be. It seems a lot more flexible than the Bosch, Shimano, Yamaha and Impulse systems but may be more difficult to get replacement packs for. I saw two different battery configurations on the Bulls bikes alone and that costs more money to manufacture. Still, the integrated batteries look great and bring weight even lower on frames for improved balance. Generally speaking, this mid-drive motor and accompanying systems seem more custom and things like chain rings, guides and even control interfaces are varied across bikes which can look cool and be stealthy but increase price and may have an impact on usability and familiarity that shops have across different models.

TranzX
This system is very similar to the BBS02 in that it feels more like a cadence sensor and sort of bangs to start vs. being so smooth (at least in the higher levels of assist). It’s more affordable than the others for a reason and while it does not require shift sensors, the larger more standard sized chainring spins down slower than some. I used to promote the benefits of throttle operation on this motor with some of the [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/category/izip/']IZIP electric bikes[/URL] but starting in 2016 a lot of them seemed to disappear as manufacturers pushed for throttle regulation in the US so they could import exact models from the EU to reduce costs. That didn’t happen because Pedego introduced a separate bill to keep throttles and now we see a lot of mid-drives without assist and nothing special to offer other than a low price point. TranzX motors may also be found on [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/category/raleigh/']Raleigh[/URL] and [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/category/diamondback/']Diamondback[/URL] ebikes. Unfortunately, I have heard from users and some dealers that the TranzX system is also susceptible to a complete unit failure if used for heavier loads and climbing. I’m not sure exactly what the issue is but it sounds unrepairable and complete units have had to be replaced in many situations (so it’s nice that the unit is often warrantied for a year by the bicycle manufacturer using it).

This first group of images shows the oldest TranzX motor I’ve encountered called the M07, it is still used today on many ebikes because of the high torque output it offers. Many of the newer models have upgraded firmware that improves performance and smoothness.

This second group of images shows the TranzX M16 GTA motor which is slightly lower torque, a bit more smooth than the M07 and much more responsive. I see it on city oriented bikes vs. trail and off-road for the M07.

This final group of images shows the newest TranzX M25 which is more compact and lighter weight than the M07 and M16 models. It offers good torque and is found on the higher end speed-pedelec urban bikes.

Other Mid Drives (EVELO, iGo, eProdigy, Optibike etc.)
I’m not sure what to call this canister style mid-drive these canister and smaller circular mid-motors. In my opinion this type of product is best suited to neighborhood and urban use because it has a more limited RPM range. This causes similar problems to the Yamaha system mentioned earlier where you literally cannot hit 20 mph unless you’re using the highest gear. One upside with this system however (at least on the note of max-speed) is that you don’t have to push very hard on the pedals because they almost always rely on cadence sensors. One other positive with these systems is that they often allow for throttle mode as well! So it comes down to one of these low-end systems that do not have shift sensing and really aren’t all that powerful or fast, besides the EVELO 500 watt version, or one of the BBS02 8Fun kits if you want a throttle. These generic motors aren’t especially quiet and do not appear to be easy to work on (possibly a full swap vs. maintenance?) The benefits of having a middrive are greatly diluted by these factors and this is the level where getting a basic internally geared hub motor starts to look pretty good, especially given their mostly on-road use.

Most of the feedback in this guide comes from me testing demo bikes back to back to back… doing my best with qualitative observation to determine how each rides. I mixed in some stats and details from reviews and acknowledge that the systems are all changing year over year and that I may be incorrect in certain cases. Please chime in with your thoughts and experiences so this guide can be as accurate as possible. It is not sponsored or weighted by any particular brand and my goal is to be unbiased and objective. One other mid-drive system worth calling out here is the Optibike SIMBB found on one of their [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/optibike/simbb-29c/']custom models[/URL]. Optibike also delivers one of the lower end middrives on their Pioneer bikes and some super powerful ones on their R-Series but I left them out because they operate on throttle only and are not street legal given the higher power and top speeds. The SIMBB by comparison is completely sealed and includes the batteries inside! It’s powerful and responsive but did not include shift sensing at the time this guide was created.

Court
2 months ago

Hi guys! I'm moving some content off of the main site and into the most relevant categories of the forum. This post was originally made on October 8th 2016:

2016 was the fourth year I got to attend Interbike but this is only the third guide posted about it… and that’s because I got really sick in 2015 after eating a taco (served by a sick person) just before the week began last time! For those who don’t know, Interbike is a week long trade show and industry event where manufacturers from all over the United States (and some from other parts of the world like Europe and Asia) travel to Las Vegas and showcase their latest and greatest upcoming bicycles, accessories and some tangential exercise equipment. It’s a chance for IBD’s (Independent Bicycle Dealers) and IEBD’s (Independent ELECTRIC Bicycle Dealers) to choose what they’ll carry in the coming year and negotiate deals. Thankfully, it’s also a space where individuals who work in the media, like myself, can take pictures and make videos about those same new products. There’s even a special media event that happens just before the show where we get a sneak peek at what’s coming out. For me, Interbike is a special time where all the people I’ve met traveling and doing reviews gather in one place to connect. It’s fun, it’s exciting and it’s also a lot of work because Las Vegas can be loud, dry and hot!

This year I did not film updates at Outdoor Demo Day but was able to shoot several reviews. Some of the major brands who used to attend, like Trek and Specialized, were not present and as a result I think Haibike got a lot of extra attention. The event lasts two days and is held at Bootleg Canyon which has some awesome mountain bike trails and a paved path for people to test bikes on. There are actually big trucks that carry riders back into the canyon so they can coast down and try several bikes without getting exhausted climbing… Which I think is cheating! Oh, the irony ;) There are usually some great food trucks, the nauseating smell of gasoline and the jarring sound of generators keeping everyone’s booth up and running. I hope in the future we see more solar electric generators that run quieter and smell better. Highlights this year for me at ODD were the https://electricbikereview.com/brand/surface-604/, some new models from https://electricbikereview.com/brand/eprodigy/ and a custom built https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAPfPiId8j8 from Nomad Cycles using the EcoSpeed motor. One of the ebikes I got to review as the show was starting up was the SmartMotion Pacer shown below.

In the past, I’ve created compilations from Interbike where I just walked around and combined lots of little bits into a “day of” video. This year, I filmed individual videos with vendors that I felt either had a cool product or were friends that I’d worked with in the past. I wish I had been able to see everyone but time was limited so we simply did the best we could. My girlfriend Monica came along and can be seen and heard adding perspective along the way. All of these videos (and prior-year footage) can be watched in a new playlist I created on YouTube called https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMsufmMBrYpCkMofSBxtkJe-1u_3mknBY. The embedded video below is from Riese & Müller, makers of some of the most polished and unique bikes I saw at the show. They’re a German company with over 23 years experience working on bicycles, focusing in on electrics for the past 8 years and becoming exclusive in 2012. I expect to see some of their bikes at premium dealers in the US this year such as http://newwheel.net/ in San Francisco and http://propelbikes.com/ in New York.

Some of the other brands you’ll find videos for in the playlist (and linked directly below) include https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McGUO_JxJrs, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnw4MfLRh90, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsekUOKueXY, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDihNrNopwo, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16qCtZ0rKFY, [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sV1dpiMVgM']BESV[/URL], [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddpATbbfIzw']SmartMotion[/URL], [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALo-I-mS8kc']Tern[/URL], [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RlQuMpeFC8']Raleigh[/URL], [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pESh8ZC0VgQ']IZIP[/URL], [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osjM0ALHa2w']COBI Connected Bike Interface[/URL], [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26UxXB0hYaI']Biomega[/URL], [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Icr3LBTsbVg']Volton[/URL], [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POfmxZIDbJo']Skyway[/URL], [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5jJmqQiH8c']OHM and BionX[/URL], [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtxjT6RcrDU']Enzo Ebike[/URL], [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avn5YokqJzM']Magnum[/URL], [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPhs3amP1lM']Ariel Rider[/URL], [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VQ60sdPylc']Scott[/URL], [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdAepsS-aro']Yamaha[/URL] and [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fT6SyoZvjEs']Easy Motion[/URL] as well as some [URL='https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgEiloKVyKY']informal conversation[/URL]with a dealer friend who runs Cynergy E-Bikes and Jason Kraft who created [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/liberty-trike/electric-tricycle/']the Liberty Trike[/URL]. Once the trip was finished, Mony and I hit the road traveling through Utah and Colorado where we made a fun Vlog (video blog) showing our time exploring the wilderness, meeting new friends at AirBB locations and demoing a couple of Yunbikes with a full time RVer we met randomly at… you guessed it! a taco shack, where I did NOT get sick :D That video is posted below in case you’d like to join in on our little adventure.

Until next year, we’ll be on the road, filming electric bike reviews and producing interesting short videos of people, events and places that pique our interest. If you live somewhere cool and want to host us or just say hi feel free to comment below. We tend to drive for a day or two then settle for several days to meet with companies and film. If you have suggestions for what to film at future Interbike events or later this year or just questions about what we saw in 2016 feel free to shout out below :)

Court
2 months ago

Hi guys! I'm moving some content off of the main site and into the most relevant categories of the forum. This post was originally made on September 24th 2012:

This is the second year for Electric Bike Review to be on site at Interbike in Las Vegas covering all things fun, interesting and ebike related. This year the show moved to the Mandalay Bay but the Outdoor Demo days (first two days of the week) remained at Boulder City. This is also the first year that bicycle fans were invited to participate by attending on the fifth day of the show, Friday September 20th, for an event called Interbike by Invitation!

Video from day 1 – Outdoor Demo Day, Interbike 2013

Started off with registration and badge-getting then hopped over to the bus lines near Shark Reef at Mandalay Bay. Half hour bus ride, arrived at Boulder City where exhibitors were setup. Checked out the Easy Motion https://electricbikereview.com/easy-motion/neo-jumper/ and a prototype bike with Bosch mid-drive system. Cruised around, found the Felt booth and they also have several models that use the Bosch drive system. WD40 is launching a line of products for cleaning bikes including a protectant that will keep your paint nice almost like car wax.

Was getting hungry so I cruised by the https://www.skratchlabs.com/ truck and got a veggie curry burrito and tried their electrolyte drink (loved it). Checked out the new Stromer bikes, ST1 Platinum and Elite, which only offer pedal assist mode but can go up to 28 miles per hour. Confirmed there are new signs at the Golden Gate bridge urging bikers to “turn off electric motors”. Cruised over to the Sea Sucker tent and ogled the suction cup bike racks they have (these are awesome! less wind resistance when taken off vs. regular racks). Made it to the Specialized area and asked about the Turbo… all bikes were checked out but I was told they made the bike weaker to be street legal in the US. Dahon has a new folding electric bike that’s powered by BionX motor, battery and controller. Met with the ProdecoTech guys and saw three of their demo bikes. Saw an Elliptigo (elliptical machine style stand-up bicycle). Finished the day at the Currie booth eyeing the Zuma which has upgraded battery positioning and is lighter overall than last year’s model.

Video from day 2 – Outdoor Demo Day, Interbike 2013

Started the day at 2am because the internet at the Excalibur hotel is so slow… decided to hit the hay. Woke up about four hours later and the video was done! 11 people had viewed it, worth it! Headed out for the show and got off the bus to find an awesome Toyota Tacoma tricked out for the Skratch Labs company (who I had seen on Day 1). Love it! even though it’s not electric… Spotted a remote controlled quadcopter, waiting for the https://ride2recovery.com/ race to finish. A bunch of people were hanging around to cheer these folks on. Many are veterans recovering from injuries and the race is meant to honor American armed forces. After 25 minutes of waiting however, I decided to get on with the show and ran into some folks from Bennett’s Bike and Fitness in Mason City Iowa wearing funky POC helmets (love their designs) we played around and I gave the cute girl a ride in the front basket of an https://electricbikereview.com/izip/e3-metro/ I borrowed from the Currie booth. PS. cute girl from the shop, call me! You’re awesome :D

A little while later I ran into Pete Prebus from http://electricbikereport.com/ and we chatted about past shows and his time working at bike shops as a kid. The wind started to pick up and dust was getting everywhere. I grabbed one of the new Felt Bosch powered ebikes and headed up the mountain where I saw a few riders catching air then I cruised down by the Power Bar tents and chilled at the BMX pump track sponsored by Bell helmets. I wanted to try it out but accidentally got on going the wrong direction and then Bell made me try one of their helmets… which was sweaty. I was still trying to avoid the wind so I cruised up to the https://actionwipes.com/ booth and spoke with the founder Martha who told me a funny story about an old boyfriend who had purchased a great white shark, crashed his car then charged people at the boardwalk $1 to look at it. It’s what inspired her to become an entrepreneur. And yes, killing sharks is bad and Action Wipes are environmentally friendly. Win!

I cruised back down to the main show area and spoke with Frederick about the POC helmets and he showed me the super-aerodynamic model and explained how they made it for the olympic games in Beijing. They wind kept blowing and stuff was starting to fall over. I suggested he put the helmet on for safety. The day was ending so I started back for the busses and met the friendliest booth attendant ever, he was using a spray bottle to mist people as they walked by. Awesome. Got back in line and boarded the bus!

Video from day 3 – Exhibition Hall, Interbike 2013

I arrived at the show, stopped by the Pedego booth and saw the new https://electricbikereview.com/ford/supercruiser/ Electric bike then cruised over to the http://www.jtreelife.com/ booth and tried on some face stick sunscreen stuff… cool. Took a lap around the showroom floor and saw the media booth (which probably has good WiFi) and decided to keep exploring. After a bit I saw a unique bottle cage designed to fit between the seat post and downtube and be super aerodynamic called the http://www.mywedgie.com/cgi-sys/suspendedpage.cgi.

A bit later I ducked into the “Women’s Lounge” area and met with an endurance athlete brand called https://www.coeursports.com/ which just launched out of LA. They have stuff designed for long distance bicycling. A bit later I stopped by the Easy Motion booth and saw the new Neo Jet which is a stepthrough version of the https://electricbikereview.com/easy-motion/neo-cross/ presumably for women or smaller riders, it looked great. Easy Motion is also working on a few bikes that will utilize the Bosch mid-drive motor system and have 27.5″ wheels. I kept cruising and met Dwayne from [URL='http://www.bluemonkeybicycles.com/']Blue Monkey Bicycles[/URL] which is the first Pedego dealer out of Utah. We talked about putting skis on an electric bikes and ironically just after this I discovered [URL='http://www.gripstuds.com/']Grip Studs[/URL] which are tiny metal bits that screw into bicycle tires to give them more traction on snow and ice. I was told that larger tires like those on the [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/pedego/trail-tracker/']Trail Tracker[/URL] also help… awesome! Then I saw the razor scooters booth and a bigwheel tricycle for adults. I also passed by the Brompton folding bicycle booth, while I did not see any electric bikes being showcased there I do know that [URL='http://www.nycewheels.com/brompton-electric-bike.html']NYCeWheels[/URL] offers some converted Brompton ebikes.

A bit later I cruised over to the ProdecoTech booth and saw the new Oasis, several Outlaw models, a full sized folding electric bike and the Scorpion which uses water-bottle sized batteries. Apparently these are being used by police forces and can come with two hub motors (front and rear). ProdecoTech also has a new Rebel bike with oversized tires that can be built with two 750 watt motors!

I discovered a new company called [URL='http://www.cycledog.com/']CycleDog[/URL] which is an earth friendly pet company that offers some neat chew toys. They use old tubes to make some of their plastic and rubber stuff. Kept exploring and found [URL='http://www.hi-powercycles.com/']Hi-Power Cycles[/URL] which has a bike called the Revolution offering a 5,000 watt motor with air cooling and regenerative braking. I saw the new IZIP E3 Peak on display with custom mid-drive motor system from Currie.

Jumped outside to check out the outdoor test track. Back inside I saw a new hub motor by BionX which was super wide and narrow. The [URL='http://www.cyclelogicalgear.com/']Cyclelogical[/URL] booth had some cool t-shirts and racks for tablets and stuff. They also have a cool spoke reflector thing which makes you much more visible at night. By this time I was getting hungry so I decided to keep walking and find the cafeteria. I met an interesting fellow who was eating a banana and asked if I had seen Pulp Fiction.

Back on the test track I made friends with the security guy named Bob and offered to let him ride the new Electra Townie Go! bike. He said he’d get in trouble so I just kept riding. For some reason they were doing jackhammer work outside which was very loud. I found the [URL='http://www.ondaride.com/']Onda Ride[/URL] booth and checked out some of their neat lockable bike boxes and trailers (they even have one that glows in the dark!) The Clif Bar booth had a neat flower setup with fun egg beater chandelier hanging above (and free samples, yum). Discovered a new company called [URL='http://rocket44.com/']Rocket 44[/URL] which has a portable bicycle pump with pressure gauge and high pressure and high volume setting for road vs. mountain bikes. They also offer a hydration pack with two reservoirs (one for sports drink and one for water). Back on the show floor I found the Basil booth and saw a few new bags and a fun bell!

I floated back outside and found a company called [URL='http://www.realxgear.com/']Real X Gear[/URL] that makes cooling hats and towels, you just get them wet and wear around your neck or on your head, neat. PowerBar has some new “real fruit” gu stuff that I tried out, actually tastes pretty good and they told me it was magic :D

Video from day 4 – Exhibition Hall, Interbike 2013

I’m dubbing this day “Cute Girls at Interbike”. Started things out with some $17.00 sunscreen then a long walk to the tram followed by a long walk to the Mandalay Bay convention center. Was enjoying a Pro Bar for breakfast and avoided the long line at Starbucks. Spent a little bit more time at the map this time figuring out who I hadn’t seen.

Had plans to meet Jason from [URL='http://www.ebikekit.com/']e-bike[/URL] kit but we missed each other.. in part because we’ve never met in real life and don’t know what each other look like. Spotted one of those huge tired bikes and found out [URL='http://www.oldmanmountain.com/']Old Man Mountain[/URL] makes heavy duty custom racks for them. The GoPro booth had a Porsche rally car setup and just a bunch of neat extreme stuff.

Cruised by the [URL='http://ortliebusa.com/']Ortlieb[/URL] booth and called out some of the neat panniers they have with quick-lift release systems. I went back to the Electra booth and tried to ask a rep where to buy them but he basically referred me to the website, meow. Found the Dahon booth and saw their folding ebike along with a new prototype that the rep didn’t know about. Saw some of the new [URL='http://www.timbuk2.com/']Timbuk2[/URL] backpacks then cruised over to the Burley area where they were showcasing the Flatbed, Nomad and a seat-post rack carrier.

[URL='http://www.striderbikes.com/']Strider[/URL] had a huge booth setup with two sizes of bikes for teaching kids how to ride (they don’t have pedals, just coasting and foot rests). I snuck into a high-up booth for a better view then bailed. Found a new company called [URL='https://www.hybikes.com/']HyBikes[/URL] with scooter-esque ebikes using Lead Acid batteries, they were inexpensive but heavy. Kept exploring and found the e-joe booth which had a few models out for show (but not testing). I met the founder who told me that [URL='http://ejoebike.com/']e-joe[/URL] is for “everybody joes” which made me smile.

I met back up with the girl at [URL='http://www.eprodigybikes.com/']EPik bikes[/URL] (out of Canada) which I had tested during Outdoor Demo Day, saw a new model with a built in basket. Just after this I ran into Turbo Bob who runs a [URL='https://turbobobbicycleblog.wordpress.com/']bicycle blog[/URL]! We chatted about the industry a bit and then parted ways. Picked up and saw a tandem called [URL='http://buddybike.com/']BuddyBike[/URL] which looked neat and is actually designed to take kids with special needs out for rides! So cool.. There was an interesting bike setup called “purely custom” for dialing in seating and stuff.

Thule has a couple of rack systems designed to fasten directly to bike frames (no braze ons required) and they felt really solid! I also checked out the EasyFold rack which is capable of carrying electric bikes. It can carry 130lbs of bikes and has a little ramp and also folds so you can open your tailgate. Yakima also has a platform bike rack called the Hold Up capable of holding 120lbs of bikes (but has no ramp) and another rack called the Rack and Roll for towing several bikes.

I was hoping to speak with the [URL='http://chamoisbuttr.com/her-chamois-buttr/']Chamois Butt’r[/URL] folks about their creams and powders for helping to avoid chafing when riding bikes but I went to the wrong booth, oops! Finally fond the right one and saw a new product “for her” designed for women with lavender scent, yum. Kept exploring and saw lots of candy, shiny colorful stuff and these cute little light up squids. I also met the dudes at [URL='http://therimskin.com/']rimskin[/URL] which can print custom stickers for deep dish rims or glow in the dark stickers which look awesome. Saw some fishes at the [URL='http://www.lifeproof.com/']LifeProof[/URL] booth where they make waterproof cases and stuff.

I met a nice lady at the Peg Perego booth which has seats for kids that attach to bikes, seemed legit and also had thermo-form padding for comfort and is weather proof. I saw a few ladies riding on rollers which was pretty cool. Later I found the [URL='http://www.pedalpushersclub.com/']Pedal Pushers Club[/URL] booth with lots of fun t-shirts. One had a bicycle and lots of little hearts. Suddenly there were people cruising around on Yike Bikes and they now have a two wheel rear so you can carry a second passenger. Out in the lobby I saw a cute girl who looked like Taylor Swift so I asked and yes, she gets that all the time..

Video from day 5 – Exhibition Hall, Interbike 2013

Final day of interbike! and the first year of a special program called Interbike by Invitation that let shops bring their most loyal and interested customers (who still had to pay $50 to get in). Not sure how successful it was as I didn’t see one person who came for this program?

Made my way through the lobby of the Excalibur, past the inactive people movers.. taunting me. I tried the buffet at the Excalibur and Luxor and the Luxor is way, way better.. but still not that great. On the walk to the show a guy named Richard showed me the [URL='http://www.cherubim.jp/']Cheribim[/URL] which is a Japanese bike company, it had a fancy pair of tubes acting a the downtube. I have no idea how that makes it better or lighter or what?

Got into the event center right when it opened so things were very quiet. Found a booth for [URL='http://www.sevenstarbicycle.com/']Sevenstar Cycles[/URL], a new ebike company I haven’t heard of, then went outside to the test track. I met with a rep from [URL='https://optibike.com/']Optibike[/URL] and learned about their new mid-drive motor and battery system. Met with the founder of High Roller tricycles for adults. He excitedly gave me a product overview and pulled a power slide on his way out.

I kept doing rounds at the outdoor track and visited the Currie tents including IZIP, eFlow and Haibike. Hopped on the “Green Bike” from Pete’s Electrics and then spoke with Dean about their rental offering and the different shops across the US including Boulder, CO. Was really impressed with the lights that run off of capacitors and work even if the main battery is out. They also stay lit for five minutes after the bike is parked.

Saw a band playing at the outdoor event, ran back into Turbo Bob who was also having slow internet at the Travelodge. Then I spent some time with the founder of Juiced, Toro, who told me about their newest model which has a 48 volt 22 amp hour battery along with lights and hydraulic disc brakes. They have new colors including black, gray and blue. He also showed me the Yepp baby seat, box and a food container that work with the rack.

Walking through the hall I saw a guy who I met on day 4 who had a neat scooter thing for his broken ankle. I swung by the Stinger booth and got some honey snack samples. Cruised back over to the indoor Currie booth and saw some new colors for the IZIP bikes. I also spoke with the president of Currie about the new eFlow Fit folding bike. It features regenerative braking and a battery built right into the seat post.

I went back to the [URL='https://electricbikereview.com/category/bionx/']BionX[/URL] booth to look into that wide hub motor I saw on Day 3. It’s a new “D” series motor that offers 25 newton meters of nominal torque. It also has a peak of 50 newton meters. It’s more efficient and can be used with a rear cassette and disc brake. Drifted around at the Topeak booth and even spoke with a product manager there who covered the new mountain bike fenders which are AWESOME! They beak away, adapt to multiple wheel sizes and are adjustable to different seat post sizes as well.

Back outside I visited the A2B booth and learned about how Hero Eco was formed. The reps told me about the new names for their bikes (Metro is now the Octave, Velociti is now the Alva) and the key fobs that start the bikes which are pretty cool. I also checked out the Kuo folding ebike from A2B. I met back up with a friendly security guard outside who liked the pretty A2B Alva I was testing.

At the test track I saw some guys speeding around on the Stealth electric bike.. going way too fast for the safety of other riders, and I Saw Turbo Bob AGAIN testing out a custom chopper style ebike. I also discovered a [URL='http://solarelectricscootersinc.com/']solar powered electric scooter[/URL] that is made from a solar panel! To ride it you stand on the solar panel, it was pretty neat. A little while later I found the [URL='http://ecorecoscooter.com/']EcoReco scooters[/URL] which almost looked like tiny regular razor scooters. I met a guy from TheChallengeSite.com which is a site designed for companies to do marketing by creating challenges, the guy at the booth had some scratches on his hand from crashing on his longboard.

At another booth I met this very sexy girl wearing waterproof socks by [URL='http://www.sealskinz.com/US/']SealSkinz[/URL]. She explained that they can be used for biking in wet conditions and come in several sizes. Even though they are waterproof she said they are still breathable.. and she winked at me, yay!

At another booth some guys were showcasing [URL='http://www.ledbylite.com/']LED light strips[/URL] to make bicycles more visible at night. The strips can be set to pulse slowly and greatly increase visibility for riders. That was the last thing I saw before rushing off to the airport! Great times at Interbike, hope to see you there next year :D

Mark Peralta
6 months ago

I think the easiest way (most user friendly) to use a mid drive is to pair it with automatic transmission like the nuvinci harmony (or H/SYNC in the Bosch). It is also the most efficient since it will always keep your cadence at the optimum window, thus extending your battery range. Another advantage is it automatically shifts down to the lowest gear (first gear equivalent) when stopping and then upshifts by itself when you regained speed (just like your typical car with automatic transmission).

The system is so easy to operate. you just set it and forget it. Even a novice can fully appreciate the joy of riding a bicycle.

However, the cost is prohibitive as an aftermarket product (in fact it's not even openly offered as an aftermarket, only the manual version is available in the stores). I inquired FLX if they can offer Nuvinci Harmony and they said it's too pricey and a little heavier compared to the traditional gear cluster.

http://www.fallbrooktech.com/cycling/harmony

These are the ebikes that I'm aware of in the US to offer the OEM nuvinci automatic transmission.

1. Corratec Lifebike (H/SYNC). This ebike is originally designed in partnership with "Dr. Ludwig V. Geiger who developed the LIFE concept, aimed at encouraging people who would not normally ride to improve their life style with exercise." The frame is designed to handle heavy riders to almost 350 pounds. (You can use german to english google translator.)
http://e-bike-test.org/vergleich/der-vater-des-corratec-lifebike-bei-uns-im-interview/
You can change the setting on the youtube below for english caption.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=869&v=nXuYlbN2cRo
https://electricbikereview.com/corratec/lifebike/

2. CUBE SUV Hybrid SL 27.5 (H/SYNC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=483&v=Ctq6QzD_eZ4
https://electricbikereview.com/cube/suv-hybrid-sl-27-5/

3. Piaggio Wi bike active plus (H/SYNC, 28 mph top speed).

http://www.wibikenyc.com/activeplus/
It can also be applied as a fitness trainer using a smartphone app.
--https://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bGnlk-W1Fs

4. Evelo Galaxy ST & TT (programamble top speed, I think), it uses the H8 controller.

https://www.evelo.com/electric-bicycles/galaxy-st/
https://www.evelo.com/electric-bicycles/galaxy-tt/

5. Tempo electric bikes, a company supposedly catered for the ladies, short people (lower seat tube), for seniors with limited flexibility, and also for the novice and the non-mechanically inclined riders. However, you'll be surprised to find premium quality parts in these ebikes. It uses the more simple H3 controller with 3 predetermined cadence settings (low, medium, & high).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=E5rmCe1T6Zw
[URL]http://tempobicycles.com/bikes/[/URL]

There may be other models that I am not aware of.

ADDENDUM:

6. RIESE & MULLER CRUISER (H/SYNC)

[URL]https://propelbikes.com/product/riese-muller-cruiser/[/URL]

7. eProdigy Logan (H8 controller)

[URL]https://electricbikereview.com/eprodigy/logan/[/URL]

ReallyGoodEbikes
10 months ago

The Fairweather by eProdigy is an excellent choice, and I just confirmed with the manufacturer that they have stock available. This carbon fiber mid-drive weighs in at 35 lbs, comes with a carbon belt drive, and has a perfectly angled fork (to give you responsive yet stable turning). Call me for more information or to place an order if you like. Steve 805-881-3365.

Kathy Smith
10 months ago

I'm interested in this bike but aside from the review on this site I can't actually see it being sold anywhere and eprodigy website doesn't even list this model. Does anyone know what happened to it and if it's possible to buy it?

zephyr
10 months ago

Thanks for the responses everyone! These are really helpful options. I'll stop by a Yuba dealer and see if I can try one in person - that's my favorite option so far, but not sure whether to convert one myself (sounds difficult!) or to splurge on the budget.

@ReallyGoodEbikes / Steve: From the pictures, looks like only Emojo and eProdigy don't have a custom rear rack. Do you know if they have standard rack eyelets and would fit a carrier like the one @ohnT linked?

@indianajo Love the suggestion - hadn't heard of Yuba but I'll check them out! Have you done the conversion already; how did it turn out?

@Roland Thanks for the recommendation, but pretty set on step through

Any other testimonials for Yuba, Emojo, or eProdigy? I'm not familiar with any of these brands.

ReallyGoodEbikes
10 months ago

Full Disclosure: I sell ebikes online and would love to have you as a customer.

That being said, there are a number of ebikes that meet your criteria and are worth considering. Here are a few I think might meet your needs, all from very reputable ebike manufacturers.

https://reallygoodebikes.com/products/breeze-emojo-electric-bike
https://reallygoodebikes.com/collections/step-through/products/green-bike-usa-gb2-electric-bicycle?variant=34762751308
https://reallygoodebikes.com/collections/step-through/products/phantom-swirl-ladys-electric-bike
https://reallygoodebikes.com/collections/step-through/products/banff-electric-cruiser-bike-by-eprodigy?variant=36014298956
https://reallygoodebikes.com/collections/step-through/products/espin-flow-white-step-thru-electric-bike

Please let me know if you have any questions. I would love to help.

Steve
ReallyGoodEbikes.com
805-881-3365

Ann M.
1 year ago

No ebike is perfect, this is a thread dedicated to sharing known issues or problems with electric bikes from eProdigy as well as any help and solutions you know of. Sometimes that means a DIY fix and other times it can mean a recall, software update or part replacement by a dealer.

Please be respectful and constructive with feedback, this is not a space for hate speech. In many cases, representatives from the company will see feedback and use it to improve their product. In the end, the goal is to enjoy riding and help each other go further and be safer.

Dewey
1 year ago

Test ride a https://electricbikereview.com/gocycle/g3/ and the https://electricbikereview.com/eprodigy/fairweather/, they both use light frame materials, magnesium or carbon fiber, to bring down the weight under 40lb, both have 20" 1.75" tires. The GoCycle suggests a max rider weight of 220lb though.

Dave McGowan
3 days ago

Great Review
Thank you for your attention to detail. Looks like a super fun bike to ride. Well done with the mobile camera work.

Ken T
3 days ago

Thanks for the nice review. Still trying to learn about the classes. Is it a class 1 or 3 pedelec? Looked like a pedal assist, but I thought if an ebike has a throttle, then it would be class 2, power on demand, so can use the throttle to go without pedaling at all. Thanks.

okanaganmedia
5 days ago

The motor is a modified Bafang. Probably the BBS02. The high wattage lends itself to the BBSHD.

Dennis Dowd
1 week ago

Super looking, and I like the setup and the ability to upgrade the NuVinci to auto. Another great review, thanks so much. I like the other color, I truly want to be seen, rather than looks.

Dan Wolf
1 week ago

You guys should do a dad edition where you rate the best upright comfort bike while pulling a two kid trailer.

ElectricBikeReview.com
6 days ago

Hey Dan, that's a cool idea! Thanks for the suggestion :D

DiGiTaLGrAvEDiGGA
1 week ago

The only thing I question is that little motor, lets see how it holds up and what people have to say about it. Who makes that motor??? Court. Channel is starting to get more Subs gratz!!!

ElectricBikeReview.com
6 days ago

Thanks! Feeling very thankful for the growth here, just doing my best each day ;) and yeah, they make that motor custom, it's called "Achiever" and this is their most powerful version. I cannot say how well it holds up long term but they company seems to be doing alright. Most of the mid-drive systems are simply replaced if an issue comes up, they seem to be fairly reliable but can definitely strain the chain and drivetrain more than a hub. That's why the NuVinci and belt are cool upgrades here, they are more durable :D

TuxKey
1 week ago

i do like Nuvinci i read an article here in The Netherlands that the Nuvinci was first made for bikes but flopped it's not efficient but that's less of a problem with electric bikes. in efficiency from more to less (this is what i found doing my own research).. 1) deraileur, 2) Rohloff hub, 3) pinion gearbox, 3) Shimano alfine 11,...4) NuVinci... yep least efficient is the Nuvinci.. but still i went for it because of other benefits..and i wanted the same bike as my wife ..nice e-bike no hassle no maintenance.. if you can afford it i would go for Rohloff first and second Nuvinci depending on your use..

TuxKey
1 week ago

nice looking motor.. only thing they have to improve is the cabling. that should be running in the tube..i payed way more for my Riese&Müller and this looks as good so i'm impressed..

david bass
1 week ago

Yes with belt drive would be my choice for a city bike, and sure less price would not hurt. With throttle and Nu Vinci hub very nice bike.

philodygmn
1 week ago

Excellent attention to detail with minimal sacrifice to keep the price out of the stratosphere and the weight manageable. I'd love sensors that obviate motor inhibitors for less cabling (though recognize they're justified by the trigger throttle from stand-still), a removable hot-plug display that turns the bike on, and a fixed front basket mount, but those amount to relatively minor quibbles in a package this dialed-in. No bottle cage bosses *shrug* It seems plenty stable parked without a double-kickstand, but mighta been nice.

The only other contender for me right now is Evelo's Quest Max folding bike but I think I'd prefer Magic's superior stability and cargo hauling.

I really wish it were as quiet as Bafang. Court, have I somehow missed any comparably equipped Bafang mid-drives?

Ian Mangham
1 week ago

We already got 2 thumbs down bro, someone has bought a bike they've seen on your channel and they hate it, so they're getting their revenge by HATING 😨😄on you dude HA HA

ElectricBikeReview.com
6 days ago

Ouch! Yeah, it seems like every single video gets at least a few thumbs down ;)

MRBARBARYCOAST
1 week ago

Pretty good components and incredible n.m for that price point.

Ian Mangham
1 week ago

ElectricBikeReview.com 120nm is pure guts bro, that's some decent torque, I'm at like 20 lolz

MRBARBARYCOAST
1 week ago

ElectricBikeReview.com yes...this bike is very well equipped. I have never ridden a electric bicyle with an internal gear hub. So many great inventions happening these days. Thanks again.

ElectricBikeReview.com
1 week ago

Yeah, I was really surprised by the 120 Nm and I love the Gates belt drive and NuVinci N380... solid hardware on this ebike, even hydraulic disk brakes :)

Ian Mangham
1 week ago

Who's on first? 😄Howdy Cort mate 😊 👍 🙋

Ian Mangham
1 week ago

ElectricBikeReview.com I am getting bitten by bugs constantly bro, massive mozzies and gnats everywhere, very humid here man, jungle like 😥I'm still cruising on my homemade ebike bro, I love it that half throttle on the right grip is GRAVY, ebikes are like a kid riding a bike when an adult comes from behind and gives you a massive push 😄, folk don't know what fun they're missing homey 😎 🙋 💪 👍

ElectricBikeReview.com
1 week ago

You got it buddy! How has life been? Enjoying the warm Spring/Summer months?