Focus Jarifa 27 Donna Review

Focus Jarifa 27 Donna Electric Bike Review
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna Bosch Performance Line Cx Emtb Motor
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna Bosch Powerpack 400 Removable Ebike Battery
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna Compact Bosch Purion Display
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna Suntour Xcm Rl Spring Suspension 100 Mm Travel
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna 9 Speed Shimano Deore Cassette
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna Shimano Br M315 Hydraulic Disc Brakes 180
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna Fast Electric Bike Charger From Bosch
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna Electric Bike Review
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna Bosch Performance Line Cx Emtb Motor
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna Bosch Powerpack 400 Removable Ebike Battery
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna Compact Bosch Purion Display
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna Suntour Xcm Rl Spring Suspension 100 Mm Travel
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna 9 Speed Shimano Deore Cassette
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna Shimano Br M315 Hydraulic Disc Brakes 180
Focus Jarifa 27 Donna Fast Electric Bike Charger From Bosch

Summary

  • A mid-level cross country style electric mountain bike with remote lockout fork, Shimano Deore 9-speed drivetrain, powerful Bosch CX mid-motor, and mounting points for fenders, a rear rack, and bottle cage
  • Seems oriented towards female riders because it comes in a smaller frame size option, uses 27.5" wheels vs. 29" on most cross country models, has an angled top tube and lower seat tube height, and uses adjustable-reach brake levers
  • Purpose-built frame routes cables internally for a nice look and reduced snag potential, the frame, fork, wheelset, and saddle are color matched for style, weight is positioned low and center for optimal balance and handling
  • The smaller Bosch Purion display panel is not removable and does not offer Micro-USB charging, the Bosch CX motor can be louder than some others and the chain is very close to the right chain stay, lower-capacity Powerpack 400 battery and slower compact 2 Amp charger vs. 4 Amp on some other models

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Introduction

Make:

Focus

Model:

Jarifa 27 Donna

Price:

$2,799 USD

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Trail, Mountain

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

2 Year Comprehensive

Availability:

United States, Europe

Model Year:

2017

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

48.6 lbs (22.04 kg)

Battery Weight:

5.4 lbs (2.44 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.8 lbs (3.99 kg)

Frame Material:

6061 Aluminum Alloy

Frame Sizes:

15.75 in (40 cm)17.32 in (43.99 cm)18.9 in (48 cm)20.47 in (51.99 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

Small 40 cm Specs: 16" Seat Tube, 21.5" Reach, 28" Stand Over Height, 27" Width, 73" Length

Frame Types:

High-Step

Frame Colors:

Gloss White with Purple and Light Blue Accents

Frame Fork Details:

Suntour XCM-RL Spring Suspension, 100 mm Travel, Preload Adjust, Remote Lockout, 100 mm Hub, 9 mm Skewer with Quick Release

Frame Rear Details:

135 mm Hub, 9 mm Skewer with Quick Release

Attachment Points:

Rear Rack Bosses, Fender Bosses, Bottle Cage Bosses

Gearing Details:

9 Speed 1x9 Shimano Deore Derailleur, SRAM PG-920 11-34T Cassette

Shifter Details:

Shimano Alivio Triggers on Right

Cranks:

Miranda, Aluminum Alloy, 170 mm Length, 18T Chainring with Alloy Guard

Pedals:

Concept Plastic Platform

Headset:

FSA 1-1/8", Threadless, Internal Cups

Stem:

Concept, 7° Rise, 55 mm Length, Two 10 mm Spacers, Two 5 mm Spacers

Handlebar:

Concept Low-Rise, 690 mm Length

Brake Details:

Shimano BR-M315 Hydraulic Disc with 180 mm Rotors, Shimano Levers with Adjustable Reach

Grips:

Concept, Rubber, Ergonomic, Locking

Saddle:

Concept Branded MTB Lady by Velo

Seat Post:

Concept, Aluminum Alloy

Seat Post Length:

240 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

27.2 mm

Rims:

Concept, 6063 Alloy, ETRTO 584x23, Double Wall, 32 Hole, Reinforcement Eyelets, Gloss White

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 14G Diameter, Black with Adjustable Nipples

Tire Brand:

Continental XKING 2.2, 27.5" x 2.2"

Wheel Sizes:

27.5 in (69.85cm)

Tire Details:

65 Max PSI, Reflective Logos

Tube Details:

Presta Valve

Other:

Locking Removable Downtube Mounted Battery Pack, 1.5 lb 2 Amp Compact Charger

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bosch Performance Line CX

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

350 watts

Motor Peak Output:

570 watts

Motor Torque:

75 Newton meters

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

11 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

396 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

4 hours

Estimated Min Range:

20 miles (32 km)

Estimated Max Range:

65 miles (105 km)

Display Type:

Bosch Purion, Fixed, Backlit LCD Control Panel with Integrated Button Pad, (Hold - to Cycle Through Readouts, Hold - and Press Power to Change Units)

Readouts:

Speed, Assist Level (Eco, Tour, Sport, Turbo), Battery Level (1-5), Trip Distance, Total Distance, Estimated Range, Lights

Display Accessories:

Micro-USB Port for Diagnostics and Software Updates Only

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Measures Wheel Speed, Pedal Cadence and Pedal Torque, Power Output Relative to Pedal Input: Eco 50% 40 Nm, Tour 120% 50 Nm, Sport 210% 60 Nm, Turbo 300% 75 Nm)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

Focus is a Germany based bicycle company that designs and produces higher quality e-bikes. They are part of the Pon Group which also owns Kalkhoff, Gazelle, and Faraday but Focus offers more of the sporty and mountain concepts which is what the Jarifa 27 Donna is… Actually, this bike spans a couple of categories in my mind because the frame geometry, 100 mm suspension fork and knobby wheels are cross-country capable but you get a remote lockout on the fork for easy transitions to concrete, a rear-mount kickstand, and mounting points for fenders, a rear rack, and bottle cage. In my opinion, it would be well suited to women because it comes in a range of four sizes that start at extra small. The top tube is angled and the seat tube is fairly low, allowing for people with shorter inseams to mount and stand over more comfortably. Even the 27.5″ wheelset seems to have been chosen to lower the overall height of the bike vs. a more traditional 29″ wheelset on many other cross country bikes. A few additional highlights that might suit female riders, who tend to be more petite, are the adjustable-reach brake levers which are connected to hydraulic disc brakes that tend to provide great stopping power without as much hand effort and fatigue. The slim ergonomic grips reduce hand numbness and are another nod to the urban+trail capabilities of the Jarifa Donna. And finally, the color scheme appears to be more femanine with purple and light blue accents. Focus went all the way with this design choice and has matched the frame, fork, wheelset, and saddle accents to the white theme. I’m not sure if it’s my personal favorite, but I cannot deny that white stands out from the side, especially at night, and is more reflective than black or some other dark color. The only downside here is that Bosch only produces a dark grey plastic housing for their motor and battery pack… and most shifter, brake, and electrical cables are wrapped in black plastic. Focus has used stickers to help the battery blend in, but we are seeing more internally mounted batteries and compact integrated motors now that make this setup look dated and clunky. In terms of performance, it’s fantastic, and I feel that the reputation of focus, premium Bosch drive systems, excellent 2+ year warranty, and reasonable $2.8k price point makes this a fantastic electric bike.

Driving this bike is the mountain specific Bosch Performance line CX motor. It offers up to 75 Newton meters of torque and is one of the fastest responding drive units I have tested. This is critical if you’re climbing steep trails and working through varied terrain. It might be overkill for a cross country model but you do get one unique advantage over the standard Bosch Performance line motor, and that is eMTB mode availability. Because the Jarifa 27 Donna was introduced in 2017, it’s possible that you may need help from a shop to get the firmware update that enables eMTB, but it could be worth it. Basically, in this mode (which replaces the Sport level) you get access to the full range of power output without having to click up and down on the control pad. It allows you to focus on the trail, steering, pedaling, and shifting gears and it works very well in my experience. I believe that this mode relies more on torque to extend the power band while all of the other assist options are limited and focused. The motor controller measures rear wheel speed, pedal cadence, and pedal torque over one thousand times per second! It’s a smart system that is also durable and well supported by a network of Bosch Certified technicians across America. In addition to the three signals that activate the motor, there is also shift detection built in that makes it easier for the chain to switch between the nine gears without as much banging and strain. Note however, that the smaller chainring does not provide as much clearance as a more traditional sized sprocket and thus, will drag and slap into the right chainstay more than average. This is true for most of the current-gen Bosch motors that do not have pulley wheel risers or mount beneath the stay. But, Focus includes a thick Neoprene slap guard to make sure you won’t get frame damage from the chain, and that’s nice to see.

Powergin the Jarifa 27 Donna is a standard Bosch Powerpack 400 battery pack. I’d call it average in terms of capacity, but the power can be used very efficiently if you shift gears thoughtfully. Unlike a hub motor, the mid-drive gets a mechanical advantage by leveraging the same gears you do to pedal with. You can even get a realtime update for how far the bike might go in each assist level by navigating to the Range menu on the display panel. Just hold down the minus key for a few second to switch from assist level readout to trip meter, odometer, and eventually range. These Powerpack batteries can be charged on or off the bike frame, have a sturdy loop at the top for safe handling and transport, and even have built-in LED charge level indicators so you can check on them occasionally during periods of disuse. I have read that storing Lithium-ion batteries in cool, dry locations is best, and that they will last longer if you store between 20% and 80% if you aren’t going to be using them for extended periods (in fact, that is how they often arrive, charged to ~30%). This battery does not offer as much range as the newer Bosch Powerpack 500 but it is slightly lighter weight and less expensive. Note also, that this bike comes with the Compact Bosch charger which provides 2 Amps of output vs. their larger 4 Amp charger… which I am guessing is another way to save money. It’s not a huge issue given the slightly lower capacity. As someone who stores his bikes inside, I usually remove the front wheel and battery when lifting or transporting with my car rack. This makes the bikes easier to work with and lighter to lift and is applicable here with the Focus Jarifa Donna. Both wheels offer quick release, the only part that is not easily removable is the display panel.

Interacting with the bike is very easy thanks to the mounting position of the Bosch Purion display. This the most compact model they offer, designed to keep your handlebars clean and clear, but it is not removable, does not have a Micro USB charging port that is active (just for software updates), and it does not offer as many readouts as the larger Bosch Intuvia. Some shops will actually upgrade the display panel for you if you pay extra, but for most applications, the Purion is good enough. I mention the USB port because of the urban use cases that this bike might work well for. If you wanted to use GPS or add a headlight and charge from the display, you would need to upgrade to the Intuvia. Anyway, you power the bike on by pressing the power button at the top of the display and then press + or – to add or remove assist power. There are four levels and I find myself using the lower two the most. Sport and Turbo are fun, but they drain the battery quicker, produce more noise, and sometimes take me faster than I’d like on technical trail sections. This, and most other electric bikes can easily be pedaled above the 20 mph top assisted speed, and they certainly cost downhill very quickly. There is no extra drag on the rear wheel because of the motor system but there is a touch of mechanical drag when pedaling due to the gearbox design of the motor. One quick tip about the display is that the buttons activate most easily if you press in near the screen vs. lower near the left edge. I didn’t understand this at first and was frustrated by inconsistent action. Near the base of the display is a walk mode button which you can press to initiate and then hold + to use. This can be handy if you are walking up a steep section of trail or taking a shortcut across some grass in a crowded area… or if you have loaded up the rear rack and prefer to walk vs. ride for safety. Not all electric bikes with the Bosch system have enabled walk mode but it did appear to work on this Focus bike. And finally, you can hold the minus key to cycle through different menus or hold it and tap the power button to switch units from miles to kilometers and back.

All things considered, I would rank this as a mid-level cross country bike with high-level motor systems and special attention to women riders. The nine-speed Shimano Deore drivetrain should hold up well under the rigors of mountain riding and mid-drive use, but will benefit from shift detection. You don’t get the Shimano Shadow Plus clutch that some Deore XT derailleurs offer (which tightens the chain and reduces slap) but the trigger shifter mechanism offers two-way action and a multi-shift low shifter. The 180 mm Shimano disc brakes are excellent for stopping and very easy to use. And the most unique thing here is just how the frame is setup with that shorter reach, lower stand over, and smaller size option. Note, the bottle cage might not fit an actual water bottle on the smallest frame, but at least it’s there for other accessories. It appears that Focus is no longer offering their proprietary Impulse drive system in the USA because their lineup of products is more limited… and perhaps they do not want to support additional systems without the same support that Bosch can offer. I think that says a lot about the Bosch motor and battery, that you can find a great number of dealers who are familiar with it and willing to provide service. I want to call out that the Bosch Performance Line motors support higher cadence RPM operation which means you can pedal up to 120 RPM vs. just 100 on some competing products from Shimano and Yamaha. You can always upgrade the fork on this bike and switch to tubeless on the tires for improved performance, but the motor is something you cannot easily swap later. So, even though it stands out a bit more in terms of integration and colors, it’s actually a big win here. If you wanted to improve comfort beyond the large knobby tires and 100 mm suspension fork, you could always swap out the rigid seat post for a suspension model like this, but it will raise the minimum saddle hight by a few inches so keep that in mind. BodyFloat, the company that makes this post, also has a lightweight version for riders in the 100 to 115 lb range that might be relevant to petite riders. Another suggestion for upgrading might be the plastic pedals, if you do not use clipless (clip-in) pedals, you could always swap to lightweight magnesium platform pedals that have adjustable pins like this, which provide more traction and durability and come in white to match your frame :)

Pros:

  • This would be a great platform for cross country riding or “all terrain” commuting because it has rear rack and fender bosses, the 27.5″ wheel diameter might be easier to stand over than a 29″ for petite female riders and the frame comes in four sizes to ensure a great fit
  • I’m a fan of light colored bike frames because they increase your visual footprint from the side, this is especially relevant if you do ride to work or school and end up in low-light conditions
  • Great attention to detail with the protective alloy chainring guard and neoprene slap guard, these should protect your pants or skirt from snagging and keep the frame in good shape when riding over rough terrain
  • Both wheels offer quick release for easier trail maintenance, portability, storage, and reduced weight if you need to lift the bike (and the battery can be easily removed as well)
  • The fork offers remote lockout making it easy to transition from trails to pavement with optimal efficiency, the ergonomic grips were a nice little upgrade in terms of comfort
  • Bosch produces one of the most reliable motor, battery, control system combinations in the industry according to a lot of the shops and end users I speak with, the weight of this system is positioned low and center on the frame and you get a solid two year comprehensive warranty with five years on the frame from Focus
  • The frame is purpose-built to be electric and the cables are all internally routed for a clean look with better protection, I appreciate that the bike also comes with a kickstand while many electric mountain bikes do not
  • Because the Focus Jarifa 27 Donna is outfitted with the Bosch CX motor, it can offer eMTB mode with a software update, this changes the sport level of assist to a full-range output mode that behaves more like a torque sensor… you don’t have to switch levels while riding to get more power, just push harder (which happens automatically when climbing much of the time)
  • Focus did a great job matching the frame, fork, wheelset, and saddle (which are all white or have white accents), this is what you might expect for a higher priced ebike but I think the price is pretty good for a Bosch CX drive system at $2.8k, the only challenge is that the black battery and motor casing do not blend in quite as much
  • I was super impressed that this bike had bottle cage bosses on the seat tube! unfortunately, there does not appear to be enough space to actually fit a bottle rack on the smallest frame size (that we were reviewing) but you could still use these for a mini-pump or folding lock and it might work with even more accessories on the large frames

Cons:

  • Minor gripe here, but it sounds like the color scheme hasn’t fully resonated with a lot of the potential buyers who saw the bike at the New Wheel in Marin, I noticed that the battery and motor are not as integrated into the frame as some other Bosch powered electric bikes like the comparable BULLS SIX50 E 1.5 here but that may have to do with the smaller frame size availability and making room for an angled top tube which can still allow for a downward battery interface vs. side slide-in
  • Bosch motors are extremely responsive and the CX offers great power delivery but it also produces more noise than the standard Performance line product, especially in the highest levels of assist and when pedaling at a faster RPM
  • The Bosch Purion display panel is compact and possibly more durable than the larger Bosch Intuvia but it is not removable, does not have a functional Micro-USB port for charging, and does not offer as many readouts such as shift recommendation, average speed, max speed, and timer
  • Bosch is now offering a 500 watt hour battery pack which offers 25% more capacity and range but only weighs 0.4 lbs more, that would be nice to have on this bike but perhaps they went with the Powerpack 400 to keeep the weight low, the good news is that you can get a Powerpack 500 later and it works with the same mounting interface
  • Compared with some other mid-drive motors, the Bosch Performance Line offers shift detection and is extremely responsive for starting and stopping but the chainring is a bit smaller and relies on a reduction gear to spin 2.5x for every crank revolution which does add some friction and noise (even when pedaling unpowered), the bike coasts just as efficiently and offers great range under power but you might be dealing with just a bit of extra friction as you pedal
  • Some of the more affordable Bosch powered electric bikes now come with the 2 Amp compact battery charger which is lightweight and small but takes longer to fill the battery, it actually makes sense with this e-bike because of the smaller battery size but is a minor gripe for me

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mbrown
3 days ago

I will definitely go with Dapu motor. I tried several Dapu motors such as Pedego, BH and Bafang versions. I will focus not on torque rather than watt power (as it is not telling much about power alone. It is showing the efficiency of the motor ). You can also check Ariel Rider which also uses Dapu motors and they have a discount as i see on their facebook page. You can get one around $1700 (with hydraulic brakes I guess but not sure. You better contact them and ask details. As with a high power motor hydraulic brakes really make a big difference. For e-glide I see they have suspension fork which is a very good point but i didn't see much about components such as if they have torque sensor, what kind of display, etc... And if you are not going to wear only shorts, not having a chain cover on a bike can be really annoying. Anyway my two cents of advice is go with Dapu motor especially if you are looking for a geared hub motor.

bob armani
1 week ago

I have never seen an e-MTB with a motor that small. Pretty remarkable if you can get some decent power out of it...

John from Connecticut
1 week ago

Hello Will, Wow, You are spot with your post. I have 'lived' and experienced everything you've written. Your point is very well
taken regarding installing Suspension Seat Posts after test riding the correct first saddle first. My prior enthusiasm was misguided
by the overwhelming improvement the Cirrus BodyFloat brought to my riding experience.

I ride a Trex XM700+ Ebike, for me it was (is) stiff. After a comprehensive professional fit, I felt like I was sitting on a
stump. ( Nothing to do with the fit ) . I was seriously considering returning the bike because of the stiffness and how it
impacted (no pun intended) my back and neck. I installed the Cirrus BodyFloat Seat Post...Bingo a new bike !

Question... I'm always been a fan of Brooks Saddles. I'm considering installing a Brooks Cambium C17. My LBS Mgr / Fitter upgraded and installed a Bontrager Montrose Comp saddle. It's very comfortable and I can ride 'forever' with no pain and neck issues. Your thoughts on a Brooks ?

Thanks,
John from CT

jeffb
1 week ago
Scooteretti
1 week ago

@PimpMan As mentioned above speak to a bike expert who knows bikes and has be trained on doing a proper fit. Keep in mind anytime there are issues with a rider's back, suggesting a road style bike or a mountain bike is not going to offer exceptional comfort. Sure you can add extensions etc..... but that does not correct the stresses and bends in persons body by riding such a bike. They were not designed for comfort but rather for their specific application, hence their different geometries.

From what you said this is for food delivery / transportation, Don't put too much emphasis on weight of the the product but rather focus on components, posture and comfort. If your bike is properly set up, you are comfortable and your leg extension is properly set. Your legs will produce more power that more than compensates for a light bicycle that does not not fit your properly or that is uncomfortable to you. People think I am a magician when I get them on a bike that weighs 15 lbs more than their other bike and they find it easier to pedal. It's not the weight, it's how you optimize your body on the bike.

DISCLAIMER HERE: Now if you are doing the Tour De France that is a whole different scenario. :)

Spend some time looking at some of the more upright bikes and touring bikes. Many of the upright bikes nowadays offer adjustable stems which will allow you to change your position (posture) on the bike quickly and easily.

Saddle: Always invest in a saddle designed for your body. A universal saddle designed for men and women needs to be chucked out. Get a saddle that is designed for your gender, designed for the type of bike and your posture on the bike (no cruiser seats on road bikes OK). There are some great saddles that even assist with relieving back pressure off your spine which is what I use and love it. A good saddle will be $60-$80. No you don't need to spend $200-$300 on a saddle.

Suspension Seat-Posts: I like them but I always tell my customers to start with a saddle first, suspension seatpost 2nd. There is no point spending $200-$300 on a suspension seatpost when you have a $10 saddle that doesn't fit you correctly. Spend $60-$80 and ride the bike a few times and if better but not perfect, then look at a suspension seatpost. Day in and day out I see people spending money on seat covers (OMG never do this) and fancy seatposts but skip the saddle. Start slow and talk to an expert!

hope this helps,

Will
shop.scooteretti.com

jared1843
1 week ago

I can't seem to find anything on the Raven.

jeffb
1 week ago

I agree the Jam2 is one of the closest looking e mtb to a regular mtb Focus as a company has some very interesting ideas. Check out the in the works Raven.

jared1843
1 week ago

Also, aesthetically speaking the Focus Jam is better looking too ;) And less common.....

jared1843
1 week ago

Jeffb,
My Levo is an aluminum hard tail so the handling of a full suspension Levo I can't really speak to. The Brose motor is great and is very quiet. This new Shimano e8000 motor is just about as quiet and I hardly notice its on. Both motors are really smooth and responsive. The Shimano motor is smaller and lighter and the Focus has a smaller battery in the down tube which is done on purpose to keep the bike lighter. Its in the neighborhood of 5 pounds lighter than the Levo and that weight is noticeable to me. Right now I'm loving the new firmware update that has the trail mode constantly sense torque from your pedaling and apply more power when you provide more power. Very cool.

bob armani
2 weeks ago

ebikerocker-Wow 3 months! Glad to see your patience has paid off. I think Tora has really turned his company around for the better. Seemed like he was always focused on giving the consumer a quality product at 1/2 the price of an ebike in its class. A speed pedelec for $1600.00 is phenomenal. I've watched some of his testing videos in China. Looks like he does fine work with tuning and calibrating his bikes. Good luck with yours.

jared1843
2 weeks ago

Hello!

This past week I purchased a new Focus JAM2 thought I should share my first impressions. First, the bike is beautiful. After my girlfriend and I finished our ride we stopped at an old historic bar and parked the bikes outside. More than a few people asked questions and looked at it. Its definitely a head turner. I have the flat green/black one. I upgraded to this bike from a specialized hard tail Levo, and also own a Yeti 4.5C for reference. This thing feels so planted and sturdy while riding it I just love it. The suspension feels bottomless and is very smooth on trails. The vast majority of climbs I did were great, the only small issue is with really steep stuff the front end has a tendency to get light. That's more of a footnote than a concern though. Shimano's Steps E8000 system is just about as quiet as my specialized and is definitely just as smooth. The power comes on quickly and consistently. I did order the TEC battery pack for it to double the battery range but haven't received it yet. I plan to use the TEC pack for my longer ride days. My whole idea behind electric bikes was to regularly pedal 40 plus miles in a day without completely wrecking myself. So far its been a great experience!

Let me know if anyone has questions.

Over50
2 weeks ago

Unfortunately I can't provide much advice because I have no experience with Bulls nor do I have experience with full suspension bikes. It could be a superb bike easily competitive with the R&M in which case I would say you might want to stay with the almost local Bulls dealer.

I do own the R&M Charger with the Nuvinci (28 mph bike). In the Detroit area, when I started shopping there was very little in the way of e-bike inventory available for test riding (still pretty much the case). After trying a bunch of bikes at an e-bike expo in Wash D.C. (not including Bulls or R&M) I opted to order the R&M as I knew the Bosch system and style of bike would meet my needs. I trusted in the R&M reputation. I ordered from Propel in Brooklyn but when it arrived from Germany I flew to Brooklyn to try it out (ensure the sizing and that I liked the bike). For me, ordering from a distant dealer (Propel) has worked out well for two reasons: 1). Propel is a good/honest outfit and is customer service focused - so everything with the sale and shipping was as-promised and they have been responsive to my follow-up questions; 2). I have an LBS that is mostly a Trek shop but which is Bosch certified - they are really receptive to servicing bikes that were not purchased from them and in fact they carry a large banner on the front of their store that says "we service all makes and models". So while sometimes it is a lottery there as to whether you'll get a tech with little or much experience, I know I have service available and they can figure out most issues. I suppose if I had a warranty issue with the R&M (and not the Bosch system) I might have to go through Propel but I am confident they would be helpful. Since I am a very bad bike mechanic, having an LBS nearby that is happy to service bikes they didn't sell took a lot of the risk out of my transaction.

In your case: Have you talked to the Bulls dealer and did they say they might get some demo bikes in soon? Again I think the bike will be available soon because Court showed it in his recent Urban Evo video. And I'd expect Court's review on the TR Street to hit this website any day now. So maybe the Bulls would be the way to go because you have a dealer fairly close. Of course the ideal is that you can try both bikes but I understand that will require some waiting and some logistical and perhaps expense issues. If you decide to have a bike shipped to you and if you aren't a great mechanic then I'd try to be sure that you have an LBS available that can provide basic bike service (wheel truing, brake bleeding etc). And for Bosch service, you'll have to go through a Bosch dealer regardless of where you buy. I would imagine that in the Chicago area it shouldn't be a problem to find a Bosch servicer. Some folks on this forum have said that some dealers will charge for firmware updates and such. I haven't had to perform service on the Bosch system yet so I can't speak to this.

As for the Nuvinci, I've expressed my opinion in my thread about the Charger. It isn't a bad system and it is working for me but when/if I replace my R&M, I won't select the Nuvinci system. I have mostly flat terrain for my commute and the Nuvinci doesn't quite have the gear range to allow me to cruise under that 28 mph cut-off comfortably. I can cruise maybe at about 23 mph but at that speed I'm spinning pretty fast. I have hit 26-28 mph in short bursts but I'm really spinning and working hard. I have only once surpassed 28 mph on a flat and that was with good pavement and a strong tailwind. I can't help but having the feeling, when I am at the end of the gear range and cruising on a flat, that I am just lacking one more gear. For most of my commute, the top speed isn't so relevant because I have a lot of start/stop city riding. But for the couple of stretches I have where I can do some cruising, I would really like an "extra gear". The system has been reliable so far and as I've learned to use the Bosch assist levels like gears (mostly Eco to Tour sometimes to Sport) then I find I don't have to worry about changing gears that much. This contrasts to my Haibike with derailleur where I'm shifting all the time.

Martin Schmidt
4 months ago

I dont like the colors but i think bc Its a Ladys bike. the mid drive is top notch. The frame is of course made as a ebike frame although Its Not integrated good. The other parts are also good. :)

ilikewasabe
4 months ago

Good observation on the chainstays. They could have lowered the bb a bit to alleviate the problem like what you see on a regular mtb.. Maybe they didn't account how small the chairing is..

Mark Ramil
4 months ago

Can you do a review of the M2S All Terrain Kush R750? I've been interested in it but can't find any decent reviews. Thank you

Mark Ramil
4 months ago

I tried their chat in their website but didn't get any replies. Their lack of response scared me away a bit from the company.

I plan on using it on sand dunes in Utah and those sand dunes can get pretty steep. There are also really soft areas. It might be a stretch but if you can take their Kush R750 (750w rear hub motor version) in one of those sand dunes, that would be a great watch and helpful.

I'm still interested in their bikes so I'm looking forward to it. Thank you.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

Hi Mark, I'm in touch with the M2S team and hoping we will get some reviews later this year or early next. Looks like a good value and the man behind it is responsive and friendly

Robert Green
4 months ago

Is it just me or are these bikes all starting to look the same!

GameOn
4 months ago

Yeah, really mature answer. English is not my first language, so i really don't see your point. BTW i was fucking joking! They all have motor and battery in the same place so that is why they look similar.

Robert Green
4 months ago

GameOn Anyway, I meant all these ebikes are morphing into the same mtb like form. You rarely see a cruiser and even less recumbents. I just wish there was more diversity so that it wasn't so boring.

Robert Green
4 months ago

GameOn When you learn English , you can criticize. You mean, don't not doesn't.

GameOn
4 months ago

Doesn't all MTB look the same, electric or not? It's bicycle!

D Danilo
4 months ago

Great perspective, Court! I think we're in the midst of an exciting era for e-bikes. Technical progress is coming quickly to the consumer; manufacturers and dealers are trying hard to keep up and be responsive to the market. Thanks for another great video...you're "leading the pack" in the Review Department!