Juiced Bikes CrossCurrent Air Review

Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent Air Electric Bike Review
Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent Air
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Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent Air 9 Speed Shimano Altus
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Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent Air Selle Royale Saddle Kickstand Wellgo Pedals
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Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent Air Electric Bike Review
Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent Air
Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent Air 350 Watt 8fun Motor Speed Pedelec
Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent Air 48 Volt Samsung Battery Pack
Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent Air Led Button Console Trigger Shifters
Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent Air Integrated 5 Volt Usb Port On Battery
Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent Air 9 Speed Shimano Altus
Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent Air Plastic Chainring Guard
Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent Air Rigid Alloy Fork 180 Mm Mechanical Disc Brake
Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent Air Selle Royale Saddle Kickstand Wellgo Pedals
Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent Air 1 7 Lb 2 Amp Ebike Battery Charger

Summary

  • An affordable speed pedelec with high-definition cadence sensor, mechanical disc brakes and a nine-speed Shimano Altus drivetrain, it's well balanced and relatively light weight
  • Removable battery and quick release front wheel make it easier to lock securely and fill-up at your place of work or possibly in class if you're a student, integrated USB charging port for portable electronics
  • Fairly stealth with a compact planetary geared hub motor and tiny LED display console, might not attract as much attention... optional LCD display, torque sensor and battery upgrades
  • All-Aluminum frame without suspension can mean back and neck stiffness at higher speeds, mid-step model does not have bottle cage bosses, cables are exposed vs. internally routed

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Introduction

Make:

Juiced Bikes

Model:

CrossCurrent Air

Price:

$1,095

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Urban, Commuting, Road

Electric Bike Class:

Speed Pedalec (Class 3), Throttle on Demand (Class 2)
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Warranty:

1 Year Comprehensive, 2 Year Mechanical, Lifetime Frame

Availability:

United States

Model Year:

2017

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

48 lbs (21.77 kg)

Battery Weight:

5.5 lbs (2.49 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.4 lbs (3.81 kg)

Frame Material:

6061 Aluminum Alloy

Frame Sizes:

16.5 in (41.91 cm)17.5 in (44.45 cm)19 in (48.26 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

step-thru: 16.5" Seat Tube, 23" Reach, 27" Stand Over Height, 71" Length, High-Step Medium: 17.5" Seat Tube, 23" Reach, 30" Stand Over Height, 71" Length, High Step Large: 19" Seat Tube, 23" Reach, 31" Stand Over Height, 71" Length

Frame Types:

High-Step, Mid-Step

Frame Colors:

Flat Black

Frame Fork Details:

Rigid 6061 Aluminum Alloy, Custom Geometry (Interchangeable with Suspension Fork), 9 mm Quick Release Skewer

Frame Rear Details:

135 mm Length, 10 mm Threaded Axle with Nuts

Attachment Points:

Rear Rack Bosses, Rear Fender Boss, Bottle Cage Bosses

Gearing Details:

9 Speed 1x9 Shimano Altus Derailleur, 11-34T Cassette

Shifter Details:

Shimano Triggers on Right

Cranks:

170 mm Length, 52 Tooth Chainring with ABS Plastic Guard

Pedals:

Wellgo Aluminum Alloy Platform

Headset:

Neco, Threadless Integrated 1 1/8"

Stem:

Frank Alloy 80 mm, 6° Rise

Handlebar:

Frank Alloy Low-Rise, 27" Length

Brake Details:

Shimano BRM375 Mechanical Disc with 180 mm Rotor Front, 160 mm Rotor Back, Wuxing Levers with Motor Inhibitors

Grips:

Generic Flat Rubber

Saddle:

Selle Royal Free Way

Seat Post:

Frank Aluminum Alloy

Seat Post Length:

300 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

27.2 mm

Rims:

Double Wall, Alloy with Reinforcement Eyelets, 36 Hole, Flat Black

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 12 Gauge Rear Spokes, 13 Gauge Front Spokes, Silver

Tire Brand:

Kenda, 700 x 45c (28" x 1.75")

Wheel Sizes:

28 in (71.12cm)

Tire Details:

50 to 95 PSI

Tube Details:

Schrader Valve

Accessories:

Optional Trigger Throttle ($99), Optional 20 mph Speed Limiter for Class 2 (Canada, Australia), Optional 8 Amp Quick Charger from Grin Technologies ($299), Optional Torque Sensor Upgrade ($199)

Other:

Locking Removable Battery Pack, 1.7 lb 2 Amp Charger, 13 Amp Controller Output

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

8Fun

Motor Type:

Rear-Mounted Geared Hub
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Motor Nominal Output:

350 watts

Motor Peak Output:

624 watts

Battery Brand:

Samsung or LG, 3C Discharge Rating

Battery Voltage:

48 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

8.8 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

422.4 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

4 hours

Estimated Min Range:

20 miles (32 km)

Estimated Max Range:

40 miles (64 km)

Display Type:

King Meter, Fixed LED Console

Readouts:

Battery Level (5 Dots), Assist Level (Eco, 1-4, Sport)

Display Accessories:

Sport Button (Jumps to Highest Power), 5 Volt Standard USB Port on Battery

Drive Mode:

Cadence Sensing Pedal Assist (High Definition Hall Cadence Sensor)

Top Speed:

28 mph (45 kph) (Optional 20 mph Limit with LCD)

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Written Review

Juiced Bikes started out in 2013 with electric cargo bikes designed to haul loads and go far… they offer some of the highest capacity battery packs in the space and tend to be popular with delivery cyclists. In 2016 they launched the CrossCurrent, a sporty city bike with more traditional battery integration, a suspension fork and hydraulic disc brakes at an impressive $1,500 price point and now, they’ve got the CrossCurrent Air. This is an even more affordable, stripped-down version of the CrossCurrent that still comes in three frame sizes and a mid-step for people with shorter inseams. You get mechanical disc brakes, no suspension fork and a slightly less sexy frame (boxier tubing vs. smooth rounded) for just over $1k. Yes, it’s still a 28 mph capable Class 3 speed pedelec and you can purchase a throttle accessory if you prefer that kind of riding (the throttle will cut out at 20 mph). This bike rides comfortably with nine gears and a low but not lowest-level Shimano Altus derailleur. Just like the regular CrossCurrent, you can pay more for larger battery capacity if you plan to ride further and you get a solid one year warranty (two year components and lifetime on the frame) and it can be purchased through dealers! Many of the other “affordable” electric bikes I see and review only ship direct. That means you spend more time unpacking, dealing with trash, tuning the bike up and possibly pulling the trigger on purchase without test riding and knowing exactly what frame size is best. Big props to Juiced Bikes for working with dealers and hitting a price point that can still support them.

Driving the CrossCurrent Air is the exact same 8Fun internally geared hub motor used on the standard CrossCurrent. It offers 350 to 600+ watts output and is zippier than most motors this size based on a higher 3C rating for battery current output. While the motor does produce a bit of whirring noise, it’s not too bad with the lower levels of assist and it really does get you up to 28 mph. Perhaps my only complaints here are the same complaints that most hub motors get which is the lack of quick release and a wire coming out the right side of the axle where the shifter cables and derailleur are. It’s not as tucked in as the latest fanciest ebikes and could get bent or snagged more easily. Just be careful with that wire and enjoy the fact that this hub motor is compact, built from a mainstream supplier (Bafang/8Fun) and much lighter than a 500 or 750 watt option. Note also that the spokes are slightly thicker and the rims (painted black to match the frame and hub motor) use reinforcement eyelets so they won’t crack as easily under pressure. Sometimes these speed pedelec models can be uncomfortable to pedal at higher speeds if they aren’t geared correctly but those nine options felt good to me and I liked how clean the cockpit was with trigger shifters only on the right. Note that the chainring has a plastic guard to keep your pants or dress from getting dirty or snagged but it’s just plastic and only on the outside so you could still drop the chain towards the inside if the terrain gets really bumpy.

Powering the Juiced Bikes CrossCurrent Air is an efficient, high output 48 volt 8.8 amp hour battery by default but you can get more amp hours with two battery upgrade options and that will take you further. Range depends on a lot of things including how actively you pedal, whether you ride above 20 mph frequently as wind resistance takes a lot of energy to power through and if you’ve got the throttle accessory. For me personally, I’d probably stick with the smaller two options since the goal here is to keep the price low and I like lighter weight ebikes for carrying up stairs and bringing into my room for storage vs. leaving outside overnight. With the mid-step frame option, the largest battery simply will not fit so that’s a consideration also. I do like that Juiced made an option for petite riders but was a little bummed that it didn’t have bottle cages like the diamond frame seen in the video review above. This frame would be the easiest to lift, put on car or bus racks and have the bottle cage but all frames have threaded bosses at the rear for adding a traditional rack and that can be a real back-saver if you’re a student with books, laptops and other gear trying to get across campus on a budget. Note that the Air does not have that suspension fork so your body and gear might get a little jarred around at those higher speeds.

Operating this electric bike is about as easy as it gets. Once the battery is charged and locked ot the frame (you can charge it on or off the bike) just press the power button on the little LED console and watch it light up and dance through the different power levels and charge readouts before staying solid to let you know the bike status. You can press plus and minus to navigate through eco, 1, 2, 3 and sport with the higher levels going faster and feeling zippier. Once you decide on a comfortable level, say level 2 or 3, you can instantly jump up to sport for the most power (perhaps to pass someone or ascend a hill) with just one button press on the console. The red sport button jumps you right up and then back down when pressed a second time and makes riding a little safer than if you had to press several plus or minus steps and look down. The display is compact, mostly black to blend in with the bar and grips and close enough to reach without taking your hand all the way off. It does of course lack speed and odometer readouts but Juiced Bikes offers an upgrade for that as well. You can pay extra to get an LCD console that’s more thorough. Another option is a cadence + torque sensor that will respond to how hard you push in addition to pedal rotation. I wasn’t disappointed with the standard torque-only sensor that the Air came with because it responded quickly and was tucked into the rear dropout vs. using a plastic disc with magnets at the bottom bracket. Again, if you’re going to get this bike… the more basic version, and save $400 off the standard CrossCurrent then why spend hundreds more to upgrade one area or another when you could get those hydraulic disc brakes, suspension fork etc. all at once? I guess the big reason is that the standard CrossCurrent also does not come with an LCD display, both bikes require an upgrade to get that.

All things considered, Juiced Bikes has done an impressive job balancing value with quality for the CrossCurrent Air. Little upgrades like Wellgo platform pedals, sealed threaded electrical connectors and textured brake levers usually aren’t found on the other $1k range e-bikes. You might not be able to see how fast you’re going or get a perfectly accurate charge level readout with the basic display and the motor might not be as robust as some of the larger hubs or mid-drive options on the market now but they still work well. The drive system spreads weight out across the bike and the hub motor does not impede gear shifting or pedaling the way some mid-drives do… requiring more finesse to use without damaging the chain, sprockets and derailleur. Tora, the founder of Juiced Bikes, speaks multiple languages and lives part time overseas to ensure that his products are made to the correct specifications and this is a company that has been in operation for several years now. He and his team have taken their time to add products to the fold and the Air really speaks to me as a useable electric bike that wouldn’t break just from getting banged up a little at the rack and wouldn’t be as devastating if stolen as some of the $2k+ models out there. I see it as a great option for students and other commuters with a limited budget. Big thanks to Juiced Bikes for partnering with me on this review and driving to meet me with a whole van full of models to compare back to back and show on camera :)

Pros:

  • One of the most affordable electric bikes I’ve reviewed that can be purchased through dealers, Juiced Bikes also sells direct but it’s great if you can test the sizes and have the bike setup in person… that’s a great value at this $1,095 price point
  • Solid warranty for the price, you get one year on the battery and basically two years on everything else including components (lifetime on the frame)
  • Even though the motor is rated at 350 watts, it peaks out above 600 watts and the controller has been tuned to feel zippy and go faster… it actually works pretty well but doesn’t weigh as much or look as obvious as some huge motors
  • I love the matte black color scheme, this electric bike blends in because the battery, wires and hub motor are all black and the display panel is super small and compact, it might not attract as much unwanted attention at bike racks
  • The display has a cool “sport” feature that lets you jump from any of the three assist levels up to the highest speed and then back down with just one press vs. a bunch of clicks up then back down
  • The battery capacity isn’t huge at 48 volts 8.8 amp hours and will deplete more quickly when you ride above 20 mph due to air resistance but they do offer upgrade options and frankly… I like that they used higher quality Samsung cells with a 3C discharge rating (faster for charging and discharging to give you torque and power) and included a 5 Volt USB charging port on the side of the pack, consider a right angle adapter like this to charge your phone, lights or other electronic devices
  • Great pedals, they match the bike, offer good traction and are large and stiff enough to accommodate taller and heavier riders who might have big feet and need the support
  • Even though this electric bike uses a more basic rear-mounted hub motor drive system, they balanced out the weight by bringing the battery forward and keeping it low, impressively, they were able to squeeze in a mounting point for a water bottle cage along the seat tube (at least on the high-step models), so many ebikes don’t include this but it’s very useful even for things like folding locks and mini pumps
  • There are three frame sizes to choose from including a mid-step which will be easier to mount and stand over for people with a shorter inseam… that’s incredible for such an affordable product in my opinion
  • Despite the lower price, you get a solid nine-speed drivetrain with Shimano Altus groupset (one step up from the lowest Tourney groupset) so you can climb or ride at higher speeds with a comfortable cadence
  • The wheelset is bolstered with reinforcement eyelets to help spread weight out and handle the higher speeds and different rider weights, the spokes are upgraded to 13 gauge which is thicker and sturdier
  • The bike comes with threaded holes along the seat stays (the bars that come off the seat tube and go down to the rear wheel dropout) and these can be used to add a rack! Juiced Bikes even sells a rack that will fit the bike so you could carry your gear more comfortably than using a backpack
  • While the bike comes stock with a cadence-only sensor that isn’t quite as fluid and responsive as the torque + cadence sensor on the higher level CrossCurrent, Jucied Bikes does let you upgrade this part for $199 more if you wish, they also let you buy a throttle so you don’t have to pedal if you prefer not to
  • The cadence sensor in use here measures hub rotation as you pedal with a hall sensor and seemed more responsive and better protected than some of the plastic magnet rings that I often see on the bottom bracket of cheaper electric bicycles
  • Both brake levers have motor inhibitors so they cut power when pulled and that’s a nice safety option, especially if you get the optional throttle accessory
  • Even though cadence sensors aren’t as dynamic and smooth feeling as a torque sensor, they don’t require that you push actively to make the bike go faster, it’s more like a throttle activated with your feet and for people with sensitive knees that could be a good thing

Cons:

  • Since this is a Class 3 speed pedelec that can reach ~28 mph with pedal assist, the ride can get a little bumpy… especially since there is no suspension fork, the medium sized tires and gel saddle help a little, I would definitely consider a 27.2 mm seat post suspension like one of these
  • The kickstand is positioned just under the bottom bracket and if you back the bike up while it’s in the down position the left crank arm will collide with it, would be better if it was mounted slightly towards the rear and out of the way (also so you could pedal the cranks backwards while servicing the drivetrain without need for a full stand)
  • The power cable running to the motor protrudes from the end of the right side of the axle where the derailleur and shifter cables are, this is a little crowded and more vulnerable than if it were tucked into the left side as some newer Dapu motors offer, also there’s no quick release on the rear wheel, just the front
  • I like that they included a plastic chainring guard but would love a full guide (plastic walls on both sides of the chainring to keep from dropping the chain on bumpy terrain)
  • The display panel is not removable so it could take wear from the weather and sunshine a bit more when parked outside (as well as being scratched or banged up) but it’s so small and relatively simple that maybe a few scratches aren’t a big deal compared with a fancy LCD
  • The shifter cables and electronic wires aren’t internally routed and hidden the way they are on some more expensive e-bikes but I was told they are more serviceable this way and since they are black, they blend in with the frame pretty well, the top tube is kept bare at least which makes it easier to lift and put on racks without snags
  • Since you only get an LED console display by default, you won’t see as many readouts or trip stats but they do offer an upgrade to LCD if you want that stuff… nice to have the option
  • I’m not a fan of the little rubber nipple that fits into the charging port on the battery, it’s tricky to get in and since it’s low by your left crank arm it could get dust and water inside if you’re not careful… I do like that you can at least take the battery off the bike for charging or cleaning
  • No slap guard on the chainstay, consider using a piece of clear packing tape there to reduce nicks and dings when riding on bouncy terrain or buy a Neoprene wrap like this

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Mickey
7 hours ago

Help! I realize that there's this thread
https://electricbikereview.com/forum/threads/help-troubleshoot-assist-just-stops.5121/
but I would apppreciate your advice.

In the middle of a ride, the controller turned blank and there was no power. The battery light showed that there was a charge and in fact the battery was fully charged the evening before.

I now can't get the controller to turn on and I can't get any electric power. Luis called and said the battery can overheat, but in my opinion that shouldn't be the case 5 miles into a ride on flat paths.

Even if I can fix it, how can I (or anyone) go out for a long ride in the middle of nowhere and have the electric system break again? I should add that this is my third eBike, so I'm not a complete novice.

If anyone has solutions please let me know. I think the design and concept behind the CrossCurrent is excellent and the price is a bargain. Thanks.

Pingo2000
2 days ago

Hi, I'm from Cologne in Germany and I think the Juiced CrossCurrent is a very stylish and well designed e-bike with a perfect assistance algorithm: you have to pedal to get additional power from the motor. But, if you want to use it legal in Germany, on bike lanes etc., there is this EU-regulation, which says that the speed must be limited to 15/16 mph (motor cuts of) and only a max. 250 motor is allowed. Would a CrossCurrent with this limitations still make sense in your opinion? I would not need those Tektro brakes for exampel, right? And the concept would be counteracted, right: the thing is, that you pedal hard and get more speed for the work, which would be senseless with a 15/16 mph limitation... What do you think? (No, I don't want the insurance thing and it must be ridable without license.)

Dewey
4 days ago

Which bike is faster?

The CrossCurrent Air would be faster on level ground in pedal assist, the Biktrix looks to be controller limited to 20mph top speed but while the Juiced bike has a throttle limit of 20mph there is no limit for pedal assist so it should get you up to 25-28mph on the flats. The CrossCurrent Air has a geared rear hub motor so both are efficient hill climbers. You would be reaching the range limit after 2 round trips on the CrossCurrent Air 8.8ah battery unless you charged it in between.

Allanb0
5 days ago

Hi guys! I'm seeking your advice on my first e-bike. I will be commuting about a 6 miles round trip, maybe 2 trips a day so around 15-20 miles range at most. There is some elevation on the way to but nothing major. On the way back it's mostly down hill so it shouldn't be a problem. No dirt or trail, only paved road and bike path.

I don't want to pedal much on the way up so I'll rely mostly on the throttle, at least 15MPH for 3 miles with 700ft of elevation spread out. Also, I weigh 150lbs( planning to lose 10 lbs), and will most likely carry a backpack with minimum stuff. Comfort is not that big of a deal since it's a short commute.

I'm looking for bikes in the $1500 range. Two that stands out for me so far is the Cross Current Air versus the Biktrik Stunner 7 Speed. After throttle and 10.4AH battery upgrade, the CC Air comes out to roughly the same price as the 7s Stunner. Also the Stunner is mid-drive so I assume it will climb better? Which bike is faster?

Jax
5 days ago

I take my two small kids to school daily with my CrossCurrent and WeeHoo Igo 2 trailer (https://rideweehoo.com/products/igo-two-2/), probably close to 100 pounds of cargo including trailer. It works wonderfully, and my kids love it. Steep hills require some serious pedaling, but I can certainly feel the assist. It's far easier than when I used my non-electric bike. The throttle doesn't do much when the trailer is on, but I bought a CC because of its sporty feel, not as a scooter. In short, I think a CC would be more than sufficient to pull a 40 lb trailer, as long as you don't mind pedaling.

lark
1 week ago

i second this, or a send in upgrade to existing crosscurrent for motor and controller

Yep, that would help. If knew owner installable upgrades would be made available might make it easier to spring for model now that is very attractive for other reasons but fear is there won't have enough torque for your purposes

memberseven
2 weeks ago

Question for Tora or Juiced rep.-- Will the Cross Current be produced at any near date with a 500 watt motor? See the new Ocean has come out with this but like the Cc much better
i second this, or a send in upgrade to existing crosscurrent for motor and controller

america94
2 weeks ago

I'm on the South Shore MTL. Just after the first ride I wanted to buy the bike. The only thing holding me back is another one I've had my eyes on for a while: Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent. It's a city commuter that will also hit top speed, but is lighter and I would think feels more bike-like in moving and turning. Plus, it's available in an XL frame. I hate having my knees going higher than my waist when I pedal (hurts after 10 km), and I hate being at max length with a seat post, feels awkward.

So yeah, hesitating now between an electric commuter, and an electric fat bike commuter! :) Both at the same price... The Crosscurrent will probably be easier to maintain at high speed versus the TEO, but you can probably tell me about your experience with this. Laval is pretty flat too! I have a 25 km trip to work (50 km total per day). Wish I could just rent one to test it out on my daily commute.

I can recommend the Oka Trails (http://www.velo.qc.ca/sentier/centre?ID=284) for fat bike. Did those with my fattie last fall and winter, and it was superb! Same thing with Mont Oak (http://www.velo.qc.ca/sentier/centre?ID=127) in Bromont.

All I can say is that the TEO was fantastic enough to even be in that final list of contenders ahahah!

I looked at the Crosscurrent as well @SimonMTL . But only saw it at $3000CAD with the 17.4ah battery in Canada. Do you see it at $2200?

At first, I was certain I wanted only a commuter or MTB style bike, thinking I would not go offroad 99% of the time. Now I find myself wanting to go offroad more than anything! What made me pull the trigger with the Teo is the ability to transform it rather easily in a "commuter" with these tires, that fit right on the 26x4 wheels: https://www.amazon.ca/Maxxis-Hookworm-Urban-Beaded-26x2-5-Inch/dp/B000A8NQQC/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1492017358&sr=8-3&keywords=Maxxis+Maxxis+Hookworm If you select other sellers, you can get them at $41 shipped by amazon.ca.

They fit right on the RadRover 26x4 wheels, I don't see why they would not on the Teo. I am very tempted to order them right now for when I want to do long paved rides this summer for entire week-ends... Check out this thread for more details (page 2): https://electricbikereview.com/forum/threads/new-tires-and-rotating-tires-on-rad-rover.9443/

I can only imagine how quiet and "frictionless" these tires would be compared to the stock ones! Must affect the range and PAS quite a bit! The full wheel diameter goes from 29" to 27" though. Not as smooth for bumps, but must improve turning radius.

Thanks for the trail tips! I found out about Oka a few weeks ago and can't wait to go!

whamp
2 weeks ago

Just bought my HyperFat Founders Series last night. Can't wait! I added the 1000W MAC, the torque sensor and the 17.4ah battery.

I'm 6'1" 235lbs in Venice, CA and was wanting to ride a bike to work for exercise but there is a MASSIVE hill on the way in to the office that would be a deal breaker. That led me to e-bikes and I eventually found my way to Juiced. I had decided on the CrossCurrent but once i saw it was backordered I discovered the hyperfat which looks amazing. I'm a long time motorcycle rider and am excited to find such an interesting combination of a bike and motorcycle.

Anyway sorry for rambling but I'll be sure to check in here with my initial review.

SimonMTL
2 weeks ago

Where are you located? I am in Laval myself. Found several fat bike tracks around my neighborhood already and the Velo Quebec website has a list of fat bike trails to use in both summer and winter - so many places to visit soon! Feel free to contact me if you have questions, I'll be glad to help :)

I'm on the South Shore MTL. Just after the first ride I wanted to buy the bike. The only thing holding me back is another one I've had my eyes on for a while: Juiced Bikes Crosscurrent. It's a city commuter that will also hit top speed, but is lighter and I would think feels more bike-like in moving and turning. Plus, it's available in an XL frame. I hate having my knees going higher than my waist when I pedal (hurts after 10 km), and I hate being at max length with a seat post, feels awkward.

So yeah, hesitating now between an electric commuter, and an electric fat bike commuter! :) Both at the same price... The Crosscurrent will probably be easier to maintain at high speed versus the TEO, but you can probably tell me about your experience with this. Laval is pretty flat too! I have a 25 km trip to work (50 km total per day). Wish I could just rent one to test it out on my daily commute.

I can recommend the Oka Trails (http://www.velo.qc.ca/sentier/centre?ID=284) for fat bike. Did those with my fattie last fall and winter, and it was superb! Same thing with Mont Oak (http://www.velo.qc.ca/sentier/centre?ID=127) in Bromont.

All I can say is that the TEO was fantastic enough to even be in that final list of contenders ahahah!

memberseven
2 weeks ago

Has anyone ridden the crosscurrent in the rain? I want to know how it does with water. I know water is an issue for any electric bike but with the cutoff issue with some of the battery packs depending on the version, I was wondering how it would do in the rain or if there might be any other issues with the battery pack. I'm thinking about getting a 21 amp battery with the crosscurrent as my daily driver.
I rode it in the rain in the past month when it was raining a lot in LA,
If anybody is looking for a low profile bell I can recommend one of these Rockbros bells. It pushes the shifter over to the left a little but it's still usable.

what light is that?

memberseven
2 weeks ago

I'm contemplating installing a BBSHD onto my juiced crosscurrent and have it work in conjunction with the rear 350w motor, is there anything I should watch out for?

Brooklyn Tony
2 weeks ago

Tora,

Since the Crosscurrent Step-Thru model only can only accommodate the 52 cell 10.4Ah battery pack. Why not offer the Panasonic GA 3500mAh cells as an option to the Samsung 2600mAh cells?

Samsung = 52 cells x 3.7v x 2.6Ah = 500Wh / 48v = 10.4Ah
Panasonic = 52 cells x 3.7v x 3.5Ah = 673Wh / 48v = 14Ah

34% increase in capacity over 10.4Ah and no need to design a new pack.

fasht45
2 weeks ago

Has anyone ridden the crosscurrent in the rain? I want to know how it does with water. I know water is an issue for any electric bike but with the cutoff issue with some of the battery packs depending on the version, I was wondering how it would do in the rain or if there might be any other issues with the battery pack. I'm thinking about getting a 21 amp battery with the crosscurrent as my daily driver.

memberseven
2 weeks ago

I have a juiced crosscurrent and my girlfriend has the vika+, I've also rode her bike extensively on long rides about 15 to 20 miles, you do feel the vibration a little more, but the seat spring suspension does help a lot in that regard, but the maneuverability and hill climbing with the small wheels is pretty damn awesome compared to my crosscurrent. Plus I didn't have any problems riding it being 6'1.

David Elderton
3 weeks ago

Hello to all the Canadian CrossCurrent/AIR/OceanCurrent owners out there. We have a special on remaining 7.8 batteries! $100.00 off the already great price of $499.00 CAD. Use coupon code J62LPW05T1 on our site www.juicedriders.ca Shipping is dangerous cargo, so will cost an additional 59.00. Shipping to Canada only!
For those of you waiting for the 17.4 and 21 batteries, they are on order, please stay tuned. Pricing is as follows:

17.4 Battery only 1349.00 CAD
21 battery only 1899.00 CAD
Upgrade from 10.4 to 17.4 when purchasing bike add 500.00
Upgrade from 10.4 to 21 when purchasing bike add 999.00

Best Regards,

David Elderton
Owner, Hill Eater Ebikes Ltd
Official Canadian distributor of Juiced Bikes

Dewey
3 weeks ago

Juiced Bikes CrossCurrent AIR for $1095 plus free shipping, it's a mountain bike that can get up to 28mph. The 8.8ah battery would be enough for your commute. Court reviewed it recently and placed it on his Editors Choice list for Best Affordable electric bikes for 2016/2017. Currently it is sold out in medium and large size but they're taking orders for delivery in May.

Tora Harris
4 weeks ago

Here is what the thumb throttle looks looks like on the Current-Series e-bikes.

On most e-bikes with throttle and pedal assist, the throttle overrides the pedal assist or the pedal assist overrides the throttle. Either case it super counterintuitive and jerky. The rider loses confidence in the throttle and the magic of the pedal assist vanishes.

We have designed our throttle in a very smart way. Basically the throttle and pedal assist systems are always active. The controller (ECU) is comparing which input signal will have the greater effect in real time. It is doing this comparison super fast, like 1,000 times a second. The end result is that you can transition from throttle to pedal assist seamlessly. It works exactly how you expect it to work.

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Boghey
4 weeks ago

Thank you all for the replies and comments! I think I'm going to go with the Crosscurrent and get the throttle as well.

@Arun Looks like Court just did a review: https://electricbikereview.com/juiced-bikes/crosscurrent-air/

Ann M.
4 weeks ago

@Arun, both of the CrossCurrent models are available with an optional thumb throttle, so I wouldn't worry about just torque sensed power. Juiced also offers the Cross Current Air with an upgraded torque sensor that is nice for those of us with a lighter pedal push.

Arun
4 weeks ago

Actually, I might order the crosscurrent Air specifically because of the step-thru compared to the mid step with Radcity, and for the lighter weight. I can let you know in a couple of weeks when I will have the bike (Air). I have no idea about the E-glide.

Miguel
4 weeks ago

Hi! Boghey´s is also my dilemma.
Why do you guys think the CrossCurrent Air is better than the E-glide SS Plus for a city commute? Besides, isn´t the RadCity much heavier?

In any case, I would like to know your opinions on the following question: which one of these bikes would be best to be shared by a 5'11"/176 guy and a 5'7"/135 woman? What size/type frame should we choose?

Thank you very much!

Boghey
1 month ago

Great, thank you for your replies.

Now it seems I'm down to the Juiced Crosscurrent and the Radcity. If this was your decision, which one would you pick and why?

Boghey
1 month ago

Hey guys, I'm Dan. I'm new to the whole e-bike world, but I have been a spectator from afar for a couple months now.

I'm moving and my commute is about to become 13 miles one way to work in Denver, which is fairly flat. Due to several unfortunate circumstances, I will not have access to a car either, so I'm looking at the e-bike route. I wish I could have a higher budget, but it looks like I'll be somewhere around $1500 max. I know that this isn't ideal for an e-bike, but unfortunately that's what I'm working with.

I've done a little bit of research and it looks like some of the better bikes that are in that price range are the Juiced CrossCurrent, the AIR, and the E-glide SS. Ideally, if I go the Juiced route, I'm thinking about the refurbished Juiced Crosscurrent and upgrade to a 10.4Ah battery to put me at about $1450, but I'm not sure if the Crosscurrent is that much better than the AIR?

I'm just wondering if anyone has any thoughts on one over the other, or even any other bike recommendations int his range.

Commute will be about 26 miles round trip, I don't mind charging the battery at work. It will probably be mostly on a bike trail. I weight about 135 lbs, 5' 8". I'm interested in getting back and forth without getting really sweaty. I like that the E-Glide has a throttle, but if the cross current ends up being a better bang for my buck, that's not a total necessity.

Thank you in advance!
Dan

linkguy30
2 weeks ago

bike looks really awesome but I couldn't understand any of the terminology lol

Mr Sawyer
3 weeks ago

i like the square style frame

Jay Starr
3 weeks ago

18:05 Could the bigger battery pack be used to power an AWD bike?
_( does it have multiple outputs? )_

NWforager
3 weeks ago

GOod indepth info from the Juiced guy . sweet fast whip for 1000 bucks .

Richard Fillerup
4 weeks ago

I want to know about the hyper fat bike that Juiced is working on.

jacob paternostro
4 weeks ago

Awesome. Want one!

moinsen mann
4 weeks ago

around 1550EUR in Germany as we have no Juiced Bikes dealers over here :(

Ingo Jacobs
4 weeks ago

I wish they'd come to Europe. No: I beg for it!

RedHawk Studios
4 weeks ago

What's the max rider weight (i.e. how heavy can a person weigh)?

Juiced Bikes
4 weeks ago

150 kg

Terry Brightwater
4 weeks ago

Cool review ;0) Great value and loving all the options, especially that monster battery pack :0)

Dave Caldwell
4 weeks ago

Looks like fantastic value! Court, do you know if these are available in Europe?

farber2
4 weeks ago

Hey guy, ever see a Leed's bike kit, with one on front and also a back powered wheel? I have one on the front now, if you know how to connect the controllers so they both work together I would try it. thanks.

Roger Remnant
4 weeks ago

Like the more extensive battery discussion.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 weeks ago

Cool, appreciate your feedback on that Roger! I enjoy hearing from the makers as well and Tora is a fun guy to chat with :D

David Harding
4 weeks ago

Torah, however he spells it, seems like a good dude. Hope his company does well.

David Harding
4 weeks ago

BTW, You do an awesome job with all of these videos man, incredible work. Thanks for all of the free information on ebikes man. Peace.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 weeks ago

I agree with you David... I think he spells it Tora and he was an Olympic level athlete and speaks several languages and studied at Princeton I think, neat life and glad to have him engaging with the Ebike industry so passionately :D

Clothed in shadows
4 weeks ago

Pretty impressive, I must admit. Could you swap the tires on these juiced bikes for fat tires ? .

Juiced Bikes
3 weeks ago

Hype is the high performance division for Juiced. Its like the AMG of Mercedes or M division for BMW.

milliamp
4 weeks ago

Curious why is the Hyper Fat marketed as Hype instead of Juiced? I see it's made/assembled in the US too, different partners?

Juiced Bikes
4 weeks ago

http://www.hype-bikes.com

Clothed in shadows
4 weeks ago

ElectricBikeReview.com Yeah, I kinda figured you couldn't swap the tires judging how the space between that fork looked. Bummer. These "juiced" bikes are ok. I just think they'd look much better with some "fat tires" because they're sort of plain looking (in an aesthetically ugly way).

But I can't complain about their performance. Pretty decent.

Thank you Mr. Courtney.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 weeks ago

I don't think so, you need a fork and rear section that can accommodate them but you could probably use larger tires just under the plus size like 2.5ish?

Tim Battig
4 weeks ago

I have owned my CrossCurrent AIR for nearly a month now. Definitely one of my smartest purchases ever. I might upgrade to the torque sensor in the near future because there has to be quite a bit of initial effort taking off from stop lights to get a real jump on cars off the line.

Fishpig65
1 week ago

ElectricBikeReview.com , I'm leaning to purchase this bike! Thanks!

milliamp
4 weeks ago

A lot of people who ride prefer peddling at high cadence but I'm generally the opposite in that I stay in higher gears and I'm trying to figure what impact this will have on my sensor selection. I think I'll look for a place near Denver that will let me test ride both.

Juiced Bikes
4 weeks ago

Awesome!

Tim Battig
4 weeks ago

ElectricBikeReview.com and thank you for all that you do for this genre! In making my purchase decision, I watched and read many of your reviews and they were extremely helpful! EBR became my major resource.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 weeks ago

Nice! Thanks for the official feedback Tim, it's always great to hear from an owner, especially if you've had it for a while, glad you like it :)

pipeman451
4 weeks ago

Finally a nice bike that doesn't live in nose bleed altitude. Nice review

pipeman451
4 weeks ago

That isn't so highly priced

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 weeks ago

I have no idea what you mean but I'm glad you liked the review :D

critter keper
4 weeks ago

Any body know much about Kayman electric biks

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 weeks ago

I had a bad experience reviewing their products and interacting with an individual from their company in 2015 and as a result, I have not prioritized their products in the years since. I wish you luck and welcome you to ask others about their products in the EBR forums. I built a section for their brand but there is only one comment so far: https://electricbikereview.com/forum/forums/kayman/ My experience in 2015 may not represent how they are doing now, several years later, and I wish them the best. One employee made a strong effort to right the difficult situation and I hope that individual is still there doing good things to bring their company up :)

Alex NC
4 weeks ago

I love that they have so many upgrade prices. That allows the customer to buy a cheaper build, then upgrade later. This might be my first electric bike.

Clothed in shadows
4 weeks ago

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Juiced Bikes
4 weeks ago

Thanks! yes, the idea is to make the bike as scalable as possible. This industry is changing super fast and we design our bikes on a platform that can be upgraded as the new technology comes out.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 weeks ago

Yeah, not only does it make getting the bike easier... it also reduces waste for people who don't want or need the extras :)

Martian Megafauna
4 weeks ago

I really admire the Juiced approach of bringing ebikes to the masses, but there are some lines that I think should not crossed. Aluminum Forks: No. If you have to put a non-suspension fork on an ebike, it should be a well made steel fork.They are more resilient and do a better job with with lots of energetic inputs (the first MTB had steel forks!!). Aluminum can fail catastrophically with no warning. Even modern aluminum: its still aluminum.

FRANK ROBY
3 weeks ago

Martian m Aluminium is good enough for the fastest vehicles on earth me thinks 😃

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 weeks ago

Not an engineer so I'm not going to comment but I appreciate your feedback! I see Aluminum forks on speed pedelecs that even the largest companies produce and sell like the Giant Quick-E+ which inspires some confidence... but I'd still prefer Steel for comfort https://electricbikereview.com/giant/quick-e-plus/