Superpedestrian Copenhagen Wheel Review

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Summary

  • An advanced all-in-one electric bike wheel with the motor and battery combined in a sturdy red case, provides near-silent pedal assist based on four signals, measures rider input 100+ times per second
  • Offers three levels of assist with adjustable speed from 10 to 25 mph (in some geographies), allows you to regenerate energy with Exercise Mode or by pedaling backwards to trigger regen braking
  • Available in two wheel diameters and five rim widths to fit a range of bike frames and tire types, rims come in black or silver and utilize reinforcement eyelets for strength, uses sturdy 14 gauge curved spokes
  • Slightly increased battery capacity over prior generations, not the lightest conversion choice at ~16.8 lbs but it's durable and quiet (as most gearless motors are), rear-heavy design, can be pre-built into a wide selection of bikes

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Introduction

Make:

Superpedestrian

Model:

Copenhagen Wheel

Price:

$1,499 ($1,999 Preinstalled in Select Bicycles)

Suggested Use:

Neighborhood, Cruising, Urban, Commuting

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1), Speed Pedalec (Class 3)
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Warranty:

1 Year Comprehensive with 70% Battery Storage Capacity

Availability:

United States, Canada, Europe

Model Year:

20172018

Bicycle Details

Motor Weight:

16.8 lbs (7.62 kg)

Frame Colors:

Gloss Red

Frame Rear Details:

Compatible with 120 mm or 135 mm Rear Hub Spacing

Gearing Details:

10 Single Speed or 7, 8, 9 or 10 Speed Free Hub (SRAM or Shimano Compatible)

Brake Details:

Regenerative Braking (Pedal Backwards or Coast), Rim Brake Compatible (Not Disc Brake Compatible)

Rims:

559 mm or 622 mm Diameter, Aluminum Alloy, Double Wall, Machined Sidewall, Reinforcement Eyelets (Optional Silver or Black Color)

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, Silver Color, 14 Gauge Thickness, Proprietary Curved Spoke Design

Wheel Sizes:

26 in (66.04cm)28 in (71.12cm)

Accessories:

Includes Appropriate Tire (25c Road, 35c Hybrid, 50c Mountain) and Chosen Cassette

Other:

Developer Kit with Open API for Creating New Apps, Cafe Style Motor Lock Using the App, ROSA Safety and Self-Diagnostic System, 1.7 lb 2 Amp Charger with Magnetic EnergyBus Rosenberger Connector

Electronic Details

Motor Type:

Rear-Mounted Gearless Direct Drive Hub
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Motor Nominal Output:

350 watts (250 Watt, European Version)

Battery Voltage:

48 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

5.8 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

279 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

4 hours

Estimated Min Range:

15 miles (24 km)

Estimated Max Range:

30 miles (48 km)

Display Type:

Mobile App (iOS 9+ or Android 4.3+), Bluetooth Low Energy 4.0

Readouts:

Battery Capacity (Bar Infographic and Percentage), Speed (MPH or KPH), Wheel Power Output Bar, Human Power Output Bar, Assist Level (Exercise, Off, Eco, Standard, Turbo), Distance, Wheel Lock, Trip History (Distance, Duration, Avg Speed, Calories, Map, Power Output for Motor and Rider, Share)

Display Accessories:

Charge Indicator (5 White LED

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Measures Pedal Torque, Pedal Power, Pedal Speed, and Pedal Position Over 100 Times Per Second

Top Speed:

25 mph (40 kph) (Adjustable Top Speed, Limited to 15.5 mph in Europe)

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Written Review

It has taken some time to get here, but Superpedestrian appears to be rolling ahead at full speed with their latest iteration of the all-in-one smart electric bike wheel called the Copenhagen Wheel! Dating back to 2011, this concept has been internationally praised and excitedly backed by individuals who put down deposits through crowd-funding websites like Kickstarter. Initially, it sounds like some backers were waiting over a year to get their wheels, but the company has caught up and now it’s fully available. So, whether you buy this as a stand-alone ebike conversion kit for your favorite existing bike (with 26″ or 28″ 700c sized wheels), or choose from one of the many pre-converted frames available from partner companies like Fyxation, Marin or Public, you’re going to get simplicity, intelligence, and fun. This thing is a lot cleaner than most of the other hub motor kits I have tested and reviewed in recent years, in large part because it’s completely wireless. It relies on Bluetooth and requires a smart phone to operate (iOS or Android). It will fit 135 mm or 120 mm rear dropout spacing (for single speed, 7 to 9 speed cassettes, or fixies), and I was told that in late 2018 or early 2019 they plan on supporting disc brakes! This is one of the big trade-offs with current gen Copenhagen wheels which only support rim brakes. The demo bike shown in the video review above only had a front rim brake and we relied on the regenerative braking feature to slow the rear wheel… which worked surprisingly well. My favorite parts of this system are how sleek it looks, the attention to detail in design and manufacturing of the hardware and the app, and how quiet but fluid it feels to ride. Some of my gripes include the overall weight of the system and that it’s rear-heavy vs. spread out across the frame, that the battery capacity is much lower than average (279 watt hours vs. 500+ wh on many new products), that it only comes in one color, and that the app must be open to change assist levels (and would slowly drain your battery and possibly create a large bright visual distraction in low lighting conditions). Like so many of the best products out there, this thing focuses in vs. on a few use cases vs. trying to do everything. And I must say, for city riding applications, it does very well.

The only thing I really know about the motor inside this hub is that it’s a gearless direct drive type, rated at 350 watts. That’s about average power in the world of e-bikes, but more companies are moving to 500 or even 750 watts for hub motors to make them better at climbing, accelerating, and being marketed. Those larger motors weigh more and drain the battery quicker… and some of them are physically larger as well, but the extra stat’s don’t mean a lot when you’re cruising on efficient tires through a moderately level city environment. Keep in mind, most cyclists stay below 200 watts when pedaling, so 350 watts nominal is still quite capable. This is a pedal-assist type of motor that requires human input to run, but I was impressed by how smart it was. I didn’t always have to push hard to get it moving. It sensed when I was pedaling lightly and still provided some help (especially in the highest level of assist). I compared the Copenhagen Wheel to the BionX D-Series in the video review because their cases have a similar wide look. The D-Series however, is just a big motor and their battery pack, controller, and display are all separate. Within a similar hub casing space, Superpedestrian has included batteries, a controller, sensor units, and a charging interface, but they rely on your smartphone for the display. I questioned heat dissipation in the conversation we had on camera, but I have no reason to think that it would have issues, despite acting as a generator in regen mode. Extreme heat and cold can impact performance of and degrade Lithium-ion batteries so one thought I had was about storage. Even if the motor stays relatively cool when in use, it may be subject to more extreme conditions if you cannot bring the entire bike inside. Perhaps the complexity of this all-inclusive design, making sure it was durable, is part of why it has taken Superpedestrian a bit longer to deliver a finished product to market? What I can say about the Copenhagen Wheel is that the power output feels very satisfying and zippy. It does surge a bit at low speeds because power output seems closely linked to pedal torque signal once cadence is registered. That is, you feel the motor kick in hard on a forceful downstroke and then ease out between strokes for the first few strokes. The benefit to this higher sensitivity is that the motor stops pushing you almost instantly when you stop pedaling and never feels out of control… it’s a more empowering drive system vs. one that feels like a scooter or on/off with delay. So many cheaper pedal assist systems measure one or two signals and do so with less frequency. Superpedestrian measures four signals more than 100 times per second and does deliver the experience of being a “super-pedestrian” or maybe a “super-cyclist” who is getting a response relative to their pedal actions. Eventually, when you do start slowing down and eventually stop pedaling altogether, there’s an opportunity to recapture energy by pedaling backwards to initiate regeneration with the motor. This is one of the neatest parts of the Copenhagen wheel to me, that pedaling backwards (even slowly), results in smooth deceleration that’s hands-free. A similar experience can be achieved by navigating down from one of the three assist levels into Exercise mode (simulating climbing a hill) or activate the bike lock through the app. Someone could still pick the bike up and carry it away, but riding becomes much more difficult in this locked mode and you receive a notification on your phone about the bike possibly being stolen, so you can check in on the situation. Once the wheel is stolen, it would be difficult to re-configure and re-connect to the wheel so much like smartphones, it’s not a great theft target. As a final thought, gearless motors are known for being durable because there aren’t gears rubbing together to create power from a gearbox but they do suffer from a bit of magnetic drag when coasting (called cogging) and they do weigh more because they require more magnetic material and copper winding inside.

Powering the bike is a slightly improved Lithium-ion battery pack that should provide 15 to 30 miles of range per charge, depending on which level of assist you choose and environmental factors. It’s not a long-distance solution and there does not appear to be a way to expand the capacity or even remove the battery for off-bike charging like a lot of systems that are coming out today, but it’s compact and still quite capable. Lithium-ion batteries have become the standard for e-bikes in recent years because price has gone down and this technology is lightweight and long-lasting. That is, it can endure over 1,000 full charge cycles before the capacity drops significantly. I mentioned that extreme heat and cold can play a role in the lifespan and even day to day use of these cells, and that storage is one consideration that would impact this. Given how clean and compact the Copenhagen Wheel is, and that many riders may already keep their bikes inside apartments in the city, perhaps this is not an issue? I thought about how quick and easy it might be to remove the entire rear wheel for storage, but remembered that the integrated torque arm adds to this complexity, and should be considered when it comes to rear-wheel maintenance. Most people who cycle regularly will advice that you check your tire pressure regularly to avoid dropping too low and getting a “pinch flat” where the rim cuts into the inner-tube when traveling over rough terrain. That’s a great consideration here, again because of the extra steps to remove the wheel. But to be fair, it’s not that much different from a lot of hub motors that have cables running to them… on those systems, you have an extra cable to disconnect and here, you have a torque arm. The included charger offers a standard 2 Amp output, which is fine for the modest capacity here, and has a fancy magnetic connector point that won’t get bent or pull the bike over if snagged. I love the four-LED charge indicator on the side of the wheel near the charging port, the power switch, and the cover device that protects the charging port. It’s all right there, compact and clean, but it does require that you lean down to interact and this is another interaction that makes me think of younger riders who live in the city. Being comfortable with a bit of extra weight to bring the bike inside, bending over to turn it on, dealing with limited brake options etc.

Operating the Copenhagen Wheel is simple once everything is setup, but it’s a system that requires a bit more up front work. You need to install the wheel, charge it, lean over and turn it on, then make sure the app has been downloaded to your phone, that you have paired the wheel over Bluetooth, and that your personal information has all been entered into the app. Now, you are ready to go. From this point, it’s pretty simple and satisfying to use. The main screen shows your assist level in the center (allowing you to swipe up or down to change) and your battery percentage on the left. I LOVE that they went with a big infographic and percentage for the battery considering that the capacity is a bit lower than on other ebikes. Even though the current lot of pre-made bikes seem to be efficient, the extra 16.8 lbs of weight here and the cogging factor wouldn’t make it super fun to pedal the Copenhagen Wheel up a hill or for long distances. It’s the curse of any electric bike, that the weight added for motor support can become a weight challenge if you run out of juice… Consider bringing the 1.7 lb charger in your backpack? Keep an eye on the battery level and swipe down for less assistance if you are running low and use the backwards-pedaling regen feature as much as possible. But be safe! And note that regen seems to deliver a very small percentage of actual refill potential. You’ll burn way more energy on calories trying to charge the bike on exercise mode than you would by simply plugging it in. But, you will get exercise! Yes, the app is neat, but it does add to the cost of owning this bike in that you need a compatible smartphone. Most people have one, it’s not a huge deal, but you will drain the battery on your phone if you leave the app open while riding around and it could get distracting at night with a big bright screen facing you. Yes, you can close your phone, but then you cannot change assist levels or see the battery readout. It’s a bit of a compromise, and there’s no way to charge your phone off of the e-bike battery because there are no wires running along the bike. This is one area where I’d consider getting creative with a case+battery for your phone or a portable energy bank. Like so many products, when you try to get super clean and simple, you end up making trade-offs. The optimal use for this bike system in my mind is for under 20 mile rides through the city with a more fit and active rider. This is when it becomes fun and empowering, it helps with hills when you need it, gives you a “tail wind” feel, and won’t become a drag because you’re really not going too far… and your phone won’t run out of juice either ;)

I’m told that one other update coming in late 2018 or early 2019, in addition to disc brake compatibility, is an 11-gear option. For now, you get 1-10 gears and rim brake support. I test rode a single speed bike because it keeps the chain tight and simple, it won’t fall off and the bike is lighter because there’s only one rear cog and no derailleur or shifter. In so many ways, the single speed option is best, because you get support from the motor to make up for a lack of gears. You can configure a bike like this to weigh in the mid 40 lbs (or less depending on the frame) which is lower than the average electric bike. Yes, it’s a bit rear heavy and you’re stuck with red unless you feel like getting creative with spray paint. In a lot of ways, this seems like the same Copenhagen Wheel that I have seen and been excited about before… but the app is always getting better and their hardware seems really solid and durable. I welcome feedback from newer customers, people who have bought the late 2017 model or through 2018. It would be neat to hear from someone who has had an earlier version and now upgraded to the latest and greatest. As someone who only has space for one electric bike in my apartment, this could be a great option for keeping an old favorite bicycle frame but breathing some new fun into the daily commute routine. Perhaps the biggest consideration then is range. Is there a spot to charge at work? The battery cannot come in, the wheel is not easy to remove, and leaving your fancy charger out near a public rack (perhaps in a parking garage) might not feel that safe. I would love to see a removable battery from Superpedestrian someday, or some other way to extend this product so people who have further commutes, or need to pickup groceries after work will not be stuck pedaling part way unassisted… and worse, fighting the additional weight and slight drag produced by the gearless motor. And please also chime in about the app locking feature, we found that it did not lock initially and that we had to turn off auto-pairing and even close the app… so perhaps that’s a software update or we had something mixed up. Big thanks to Superpedestrian for partnering with me on this post, coordinating the opportunity to see a converted bike at Propel Bikes in New York City and providing some insights into future improvements and features. It’s rare to get that from companies because they do not want to cannibalize current sales, but I think it makes sense here because many compatible bikes are not using disc brakes and 10 speeds vs. 11 speeds isn’t a huge deal in many cases.

Pros:

  • You can set the top speed as low as 10 mph and as high as 25 mph with one mile increments in between, this is great for people who have kids and want to limit their speed for safety or maybe just want to help extend range… in my experience, anything over 20 mph starts to see a big hit due to air resistance
  • You can set the power save timeout at one minute or up to 30 minutes, which is good because the gyroscope seems to be active and pulsing the motor power of the bike when it’s on and this could slowly sap the power
  • I like that they offer a range of wheel size choices, gearing options (which should include 11 speeds in late 2018), and even bikes now! You don’t have to build this yourself or get help from a shop, you can simply choose one of their bikes and they are all reasonably priced
  • Unlike many electric bicycle systems in this price range, the Copenhagen Wheel is constantly getting better because it receives over-the-air software updates and new app releases, it also has localized support depending on what country you live in
  • The charging interface uses a standardized magnetic clasp called Rosenberger which pops out easily if tripped over by accident, vs. bending or tipping the bike, it costs more but works pretty well (just avoid getting the plug end dirty or it can pick up metal filings and debris from garage floors
  • I really like the app that Superpedestrian designed, it’s clear and simple when riding but provides LOTS of supporting information and stats about how and where you traveled in the sub menus and even includes a profile system to make it more personal and relevant, and easy to share
  • The wheel seems pretty well made, both the hub and spoke integration but also the rim which has reinforcement eyelets to improve strength
  • Even though the price hasn’t risen, you now get a slightly higher battery capacity with the Copenhagen Wheel, it’s rated at 5.8 amp hours vs. just 5.5 and still runs at 48 volts for increased efficiency and peak power
  • The unique backward-pedal system, to activate regenerative braking, is so fun to use and made me miss it when I switched back to traditional bikes, it’s so cool to slow down using this approach vs. your hands and will limit wear on your brake pads over the long run while slowly re-charging the battery
  • The motor controller is very responsive, it provides power when you push and eases back when you release, there’s a bit of surge feeling at first (when making those first few pedal strokes) but quickly smooths out and just seems smarter and more active than a lot of sensors I have tested on other electric bikes and kits
  • The Copenhagen Wheel comes with a torque arm that connects to the left chain stay to spread force into the frame vs. the dropout, it’s a thoughtful and sturdy design, a nice little attention to detail
  • Gearless motors are known for being very durable and quiet, I can attest to how quiet the Copenhagen Wheel is and was impressed with the torque and zippy feel despite being so quiet
  • Customer support seems to be very good at the company now, they have built out the website and hired a team who are engaged to answer questions and provide support, they now offer a one year comprehensive warranty
  • Even though the Copenhagen Wheel is mostly sold direct, it appears that the company is now working with dealers as well, so it’s easier to take a test ride, get the wheel installed on your bike, and get post-purchase support

Cons:

  • The current wheel system is not compatible with a rear disc brake setup (late 2018 that is planned for release), at present you have to use rim brakes but at least the system does offer some regenerative braking, you backpedal to activate this
  • Only works with specific wheel size options including 26″ and 700c 28″ but not 20″, 24″, or fat bike which limits some of the possible use cases for the wheel, at least they provide several choices for different tire sizes with rim widths in addition to the two 26″ and 28″ diameters
  • Let’s hope you are okay with glossy red, because at this time, Superpedestrian only offers their wheel in one color, it seems like a branding decision, which makes sense, and they do let you choose the rim color (silver or black) but I might add a few stickers or even consider spray painting this product to better match my bike
  • It’s awesome that everything is contained in this one wheel, there are no wires running across the frame or extra things to setup but it also makes the bike rear heavy and might shake the batteries more than competing products that are frame mounted, the shorter spokes may not provide as much flex in the rear wheel which also makes it feel a bit stiffer
  • You must own a smartphone with iOS or Android in order to operate the Copenhagen Wheel vs. many other systems that have a stand-alone display panel and control pad, and there’s no way to physically connect your phone to any sort of charger that draws from the rechargeable e-bike battery
  • As with most of the direct-drive gearless hub motor ebikes I have tested and reviewed, there is some cogging drag which occurs because of the magnets repelling the stater inside the wheel, this adds a bit of work when pedaling unassisted or when coasting but also generates a small amount of electricity that goes back into the battery
  • The phone display has a battery percentage readout and realtime power charts (showing your power and how much power the motor is putting out) which is all great but the background is white and could be very bright and distracting at night, we were able to turn down the phone brightness but I think a night mode would be cool… maybe that’s already built in or coming with a software update

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Allan
2 weeks ago

I agree with the charging comment. Seeing the design of the new Orbea Gain, perhaps the solution is to have a port that allows a second battery to be used. This would allow for greater range and also allows for a removable battery that could be charged independent of the wheel itself.

I like the idea of the wheel, but I feel it is a bit pricey for what you get and it actually does not work on any of the bikes in my garage. I have a road and cross bike, both with 130 mm spacing and 10 speed, so the Copenhagen wheel doesn’t work with those. My wife has a hybrid with 135 mm spacing, but with disc brakes.

I would consider one for my wife once the disc brake model is released.

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Court Rye
2 weeks ago

Hi Allan, I’ll have to keep an eye out for the Orbea Gain. It’s neat to see more of the dual-battery options from Bosch and even Faraday has been toying with the idea of an expansion pack for their bikes (to connect under the saddle). The beauty of the CW here is that it’s wireless and simple, but there are definitely some trade-offs with that. It’s pretty good for what it is, but range could be a factor for some people with longer commutes and the whole on-bike charging only situation.

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Allan
2 weeks ago

Good point Court, the whole wireless nature and simplicity of the CW would be diminished if a 2nd battery option were integrated in that manner.

I have my eye on the Orbea or anything with the Fazua system. I like the Fazua system more because I could use it as my weekend road rider and simply remove the motor and battery. But I can also throw in the motor and battery to make my work commute a bit speedier.

Oh well, getting too far ahead of myself. I have a Crosscurrent S on the way. Hoping to have it within the next 4 weeks. Pretty excited about that!

Tom Reed
2 weeks ago

Allen,

I just purchased the Copenhagen Wheel yesterday off the Superpedestrian website and was researching the dropout spacing on my bike and found the Superpedestrian website to be a little confusing in regards to dropout spacing.

If you click on the Copenhagen Wheel link and scroll down to Tech Specs Superpedestrian says this…120 mm (single-speed); 135 mm (single-speed & multi-speed)

If you go to their support page and type in “dropout” you are sent to a page that says the following…

Dropout spacing is the measure of the space between the two supports on which your rear axle sits.
The Copenhagen Wheel comes in two versions – single-speed and multi-speed.
The single-speed version is designed to fit dropouts which are between 120 mm (4.72 inches) and 135 mm (5.31 inches).
The multi-speed version is designed to fit dropouts which are between 130 mm (5.12 inches) and 135 mm (5.31 inches).

Maybe Court can weigh in on this too. I can’t remember if he mentioned the dropout space on the bike he was reviewing in the video but I seem to remember the wheel comes with spacers to adjust the fit between the dropouts.

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Tom Reed
2 weeks ago

After watching Court’s video review and reading up a little more I decided to get the Copenhagen Wheel.

I bought a Electric Bike Company Newport Beach cruiser for my wife back in August and she has been quite happy with that e-bike so far. She has bad knees and really disliked riding regular bikes for some time. The e-bike converted her from a non bike rider to someone who now enjoys riding a bike again. I have owned a Jamis Coda Sport (non e-bike) for a little over a year and I really enjoy riding it but there are just some days I don’t want to workout so hard (we live in Atlanta and there are hills in the city) and just go on a leisurely ride. I am hoping the Copenhagen Wheel can convert my bike into something of a hybrid bike that I can use for both exercise when I feel like getting a workout in and a more laidback pedelec when I just want to have a nice weekend ride with my wife and don’t want to end up sweating when I get to our destination.

I do have some concerns about adding twenty extra pounds to my already 35 pound bike and also the battery capacity of the Copenhagen Wheel. Most of my rides have been 25 miles or less so I am not too concerned about the battery completely discharging but I would like to not go below 20% capacity on my rides and I think I can make adjustments to my riding style to try and prolong the battery life. I have mixed feelings about the color. It is a little eye catching and I am not sure I want all the attention it might bring but on the other hand my wife works for Coca-Cola and we can always slap the Coca-Cola logo on it and make it look like one of those old Coke signs.

One thing I would like to mention about the Superpedestrian ordering process is that there are two ways to order. The one I used was for me to fill in all the specs of my 2016 Jamis Coda Sport to make sure I was buying the version of the Copenhagen Wheel that would be compatible with my bike. It isn’t too difficult but if that is not your style you can just use the other option which is to purchase the wheel then Superpedestrian will contact you and have an expert walk you through the selection process. Originally I was going to have it shipped to a what Superpedestrian calls a “Hub partner” (a local bike shop) to have them install it and make any chain and derailleur adjustments but the Superpedestrian website did not give me pricing for the shop to do the install so it didn’t make much sense to ship it there not knowing what I could actually be charged for the installation. If I have issues with the installation process I can just bring it up to them at that point.

That being said I am looking forward to the wheel arriving in a week or two and installing it myself.

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Allan
1 week ago

Tom, that is quite interesting. After you get the wheel and use it for a while I’d love to hear your impressions of the product, what you like, don’t like, etc …….

Please post your experience in the forums.

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Leandro
6 days ago

We have a demo model here in our Brooklyn shop. There has been a lot of research and development put into the Copenhagen wheel and that is evident in its design. It responds really well and has a lot of neat features. Aside from only having a 1 year warranty, it seems to be a really well built system and the service team is quick to respond with help.

The Copenhagen hub, spokes, nipples, rim, tube, tire, and cassette/single speed cog are all included. You can build your own wheel on their website.

rich c
1 week ago

If your bike has a wheel size of 700c/28in or 26in, the Copenhagen Wheel may be worth a look. The wheel will replace your bike's current rear wheel. The trademark red hub of the Copenhagen wheel contains all the components needed to electrify a bike. This includes the motor, battery, controller, torque sensor, and accelerometer. The wheel is made to pair with an app on your smartphone via bluetooth. The phone can be placed in your pocket or on the bike's handlebar. The motor system works flawlessly and even has regenerative braking! To initiate the regenerative braking, just pedal backwards. Within a quarter revolution of back pedaling the bike will begin to slow down. The regenerative braking and other options can be configured to a rider's liking within the Copenhagen Wheel app. The wheel retails for $1,500 and is a great introduction to e-bikes, especially for rider's that are attached to their current bicycle and just need a bit of help.

How long have you owned one? There seemed to be some reservations about the system on the review you posted. What has been your experience? Does that $1500 include the rim and spokes? At that cost, it doesn't look like an introduction system. You can buy complete bikes for less.

Leandro
2 weeks ago

If your bike has a wheel size of 700c/28in or 26in, the Copenhagen Wheel may be worth a look. The wheel will replace your bike's current rear wheel. The trademark red hub of the Copenhagen wheel contains all the components needed to electrify a bike. This includes the motor, battery, controller, torque sensor, and accelerometer. The wheel is made to pair with an app on your smartphone via bluetooth. The phone can be placed in your pocket or on the bike's handlebar. The motor system works flawlessly and even has regenerative braking! To initiate the regenerative braking, just pedal backwards. Within a quarter revolution of back pedaling the bike will begin to slow down. The regenerative braking and other options can be configured to a rider's liking within the Copenhagen Wheel app. The wheel retails for $1,500 and is a great introduction to e-bikes, especially for rider's that are attached to their current bicycle and just need a bit of help.

Mark Stonich
2 weeks ago

Thanks for your answer. She had a motorcycle accident when younger. Things were actually fine until last year when she slipped on an ice patch and broke her knee cap. That's when the knee problems started to come back. There's a loss of strength accompanied by pain when putting too much pressure on the knee. Walking is not a problem, but carrying heavy loads is no longer possible. Not sure of all the details, as it's a friend's wife. I offered to help put the bike/kit together as they're both over 75.

In a lot of cases the apparent lack of strength isn't that the muscle isn't strong, but pain prevents you from applying full tension with it. Reducing the bend in the knee with short cranks and spinning freely (easier with shorties) often helps. That she has no trouble walking, where the knee isn't loaded while bent, suggests that reducing the bend MAY help. She should run this past her Ortho and PT to get their opinion.

If she's a candidate for knee replacement, everyone I know who's had one, including my wife, says they should have done it sooner. 7 weeks after Jane's TKR she was climbing much better than before. And she rode 9 miles the day before her surgery. But after replacement, a lot of people lose range of motion and still need shorties. I've sold at least 100 sets 100mm or shorter to adults. Many to people with knee replacements whose PT wasn't aggressive enough.

If you want to have them contact me I can help them determine if short cranks are likely to help. I have all the work I want/need and would have retired years ago if there was someone else, anywhere on the planet, doing the work. So if her situation doesn't warrant shorties, I won't try to talk them into anything to try to make a sale. If nothing else, I can offer her some strategies for biking with bad knees. And Jane can share her experience with the Copenhagen Wheel.

Mark Stonich; BikeSmith Design & Fabrication
5349 Elliot Ave S. Minneapolis, MN 55417 USA
Ph. (612) 710-9593 http://bikesmithdesign.com
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikesmith/ (Mostly Wildlife)

Recommended reading;
Crank Length, Leg Length and Power
Short Women / Short Crank Feedback
Range of Motion Limitations & Crank Length

In case they worry that short cranks will cost her power;

I recently got a phone call from an average sized adult mountain biker who says he's climbing familiar hills 1 or 2 gears higher on 135s than he'd used with 175s before he messed his knee up. He was just hoping shorties would let him ride again. Now he wants to get back into racing. He’s in Big Bear Lake California where the “Hills” are mountains.

A local Gravel Road racer is 6'-2” (188cm) and after much trial and error finds he is fastest on 135s despite having no RoM or other issues.

Another 6’2” gent in Texas competes in long distance Brevets on 95mm cranks due to severe range of motion limits. Another man with range of motion limits is climbing the hills of San Francisco with a single 38t chainring and a 12-25 cassette, also on 95s. The fellow in San Francisco bends pedal spindles. I just heard from another gent who does the grueling 200 mile Seattle to Portland on 95s.

One of my customers, 5'-7" (170cm) tall professional triathlete Courtney Ogden, won the big money 2011 Western Australia Ironman on 145s. He's done extensive work with the people at PowerCranks where they are becoming big advocates of shorter cranks.

A few years ago a team of 4 Australian MTB racers, ranging in height from 5'10 to 6"1 won a 24 hour MTB race on 125s. With the shorter cranks they rarely had to stand. conserving energy. And they were able to get by with a single chainring, before today’s monster cassettes, because the useful RPM range is so wide with shorties. Many customers have reported that they notice themselves needing to shift much less often.

This from a serious roadie with severe range of motion limitations;
"I’m 5’8” 168lbs – regarding strength, I’m not the strongest. However, I’m not the last up the hills and can do more than my fair share on the front of the group. The 115mm Andels you made for me still have no issues what so ever, I’m on my second set of rings! Please send me another set of 115s for my new bike.”
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Knee Friendly Pedaling

Riders usually push down on the pedals by using their quads to straighten the knee joint. First pushing the pedal forward, then down. There is always going to be a bit of this going on but you can do a lot to reduce the loads on your knees.

Try concentrating on using your glutes and hip flexors to swing your knees up and down. Relax your quads and just let everything below the knee act as a connecting rod between the knees and pedals. At the bottom of the pedal stroke use your hamstrings just a little bit to pull your foot back as though you were scraping mud off your shoe. Don't consciously push forward at the top of the circle. That's when knees are most bent and the tissues around them are most vulnerable.

If you aren't clipped into the pedals, and most of the time even if you are, you don't pull up on the pedal. But the idea of using the hip flexors to lift the knee is to reduce the amount of work done by the front foot that is wasted by raising the weight of the other leg and foot. If you aren't clipped into your pedals you don't want to completely unweight the upward foot. Some contact is needed to keep it located on the pedal. A grippy pedal like a spiky MTB platform or the MKS Grip King (AKA Lambda) makes this easier.

Pedalling on the mid-foot instead of the ball of the foot reduces stress on the knee. And testing has shown that it increases endurance, at a slight cost in peak power. However, be careful to avoid toe/tire interference.

If you do this while spinning freely, in low gears, you won't have to apply much force with any single muscle group. If you aren't comfortable spinning, your cranks are probably too long. 21-21.6% of inseam is best for healthy, non-triathlets, without joint issues. When a person is uncomfortable at higher RPM it isn't due to the muscles switching from extension to contraction more often. It is because their muscles are extending and contracting at a speed that is too fast for them. This recruits more fast twitch muscles, which produce more heat and lactic acid. Shortcranks reduce this speed by moving the muscles a shorter distance per revolution. Allowing more use of slow twitch fibers for a higher comfortable cadence.

Your quads will still end up doing much of the work. But easing some of the tension pulling your patella down onto the joint can make a big difference. When I get a twinge in my knee, it reminds me to concentrate on my pedaling and I actually accelerate.

BTW I read about this type of pedaling years ago, as a way to help you spin better. So it has a double benefit.

For eBike types, think of more efficient pedaling as a way to lessen drain on your batteries. ;)

Mark Stonich
2 weeks ago

I just picked up a Wheel for my 70 y/o wife, and found this forum while it charges. We had test ridden the wheel in her own bike and decided that it's what she needs. She needs short cranks so the Demo bike at Perennial Cycle here in Mpls MN didn't work for her. Paid $1500 but only had to wait a week for it.

Small price to pay for not having to decide between getting a good workout or riding with my sweetie. We've been biking together for 50 years. But her knees are a bit wonky and she's on the heavy side. So her climbing has suffered. At my age 13-15mph is a workout, so Eco mode lets her keep up, except for larger hills.

First project will be to build a cradle to hold the Wheel vertical. Because it's easier to put the bike down onto the Wheel than the Wheel up into the bike. This is needed because she will use it in 2 bikes and I may borrow it occasionally. When her shoulder is acting up she needs to ride the recumbent I built her, which is harder on her knees. Hopefully the Wheel will solve that issue.

With it's fat tubes and bright red paint, her Cannondale looks like it was made for the Copenhagen Wheel.

Sonoboy
2 months ago

https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/1/16379278/copenhagen-wheel-connected-bike-review
This pointer to the Weeds episode within The Verge article is Hilarious! Thanks, e-boy!

Sonoboy
2 months ago

https://www.theverge.com/2017/10/1/16379278/copenhagen-wheel-connected-bike-review
Interesting spoke attachment design. Looks like something that would come out of MIT.

Captain Slow
2 months ago

I agree with battery development being driven by the automotive industry you'll see better energy density. So either improved range or lighter weight batteries.

Maybe more systems like the Copenhagen wheel that are even lighter, allowing one to swap between a regular riding experience and an electric but not having to store 2 bikes instead of 1. I know I'd appreciate that, I'm storing too many bikes in the garage ....

Embra
6 months ago

I have a phone app that claims to provide ongoing monitoring of the phone's battery charge status. It's provided some insights to me for best charging practices to prolong battery service life, and justification in my mind for buying a Satiator.

Two caveats to acknowledge up front:

(a) phone batteries and ebike batteries are not exactly the same thing. They're both li-ion, so I am presuming that the data I am seeing is at least conceptually applicable to my bike battery, so it's not an apples to oranges comparison. Rmachin's mention of prius battery management is indeed relevant; recommendations for the Nissan Leaf that we leased were to keep the charge between 20% and 80% as much as possible--the same stuff I hear and read for all different sizes of li-ions.

(b) I don't really know how valid the app's data are...I take them at face value. However, trends in the data seem useful even if it is the case that accuracy is less than ideal.

So I'm posting two screen shots that show charge and discharge histories. The number I would direct your attention to is the battery wear cycle associated with each particular charge. One full cycle would be required to charge from a depleted battery to 100%. There's variation in how many cycles a given battery can endure (affected by environmental factors like temperature), but here's an estimate table of how many recharges from http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries

So in the screenshot from my phone, note that charging from 5% to 20% (a 15% boost) took .02 cycles. Charging from 19% to 80% (a 61% boost) took .21 cycles. But the last 20% from 80% to 100% took .74 cycles. So holding the charge to 80% or so does appear to make a significant impact.

My practice is to recharge to 80% whenever my batteries get down to 50% or lower.; The Satiator makes it easy for the one it works with, and I can also set it to charge slowly at 2 amps (supposedly makes batteries happier). I use a timer to charge the Copenhagen Wheel since it's got some complicated communication protocol that the Satiator can't figure out.

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Ann M.
7 months ago

No ebike is perfect, this is a thread dedicated to sharing known issues or problems with electric all-in-one kits from Superpedestrian/Copenhagen Wheel as well as any help and solutions you know of. Sometimes that means a DIY fix and other times it can mean a recall, software update or part replacement by a dealer.

Please be respectful and constructive with feedback, this is not a space for hate speech. In many cases, representatives from the company will see feedback and use it to improve their product. In the end, the goal is to enjoy riding and help each other go further and be safer.

Jan1of1
8 months ago

Well that is a little odd. I ordered a Copenhagen Wheel for my wife's Trek 7000 Multirack which is an aluminum framed bicycle and the wheel went on without any problems and has worked fine since it first went on the bike. My only word of caution is that the Copenhagen wheel has an an extension that is secured to the chainstay which could get damaged if one is not careful. Sorry to hear about your problem with the C-Wheel as it really is quite nice.

eric siegel
8 months ago

Superpedestrian, Inc Copenhagen Wheel has a problem. I ordered the wheel three years ago. It was delivered last week. I tried to get it mounted on to my 201x Trek 2000, which is an aluminum bike. The bike shop told me that the hub is too wide to mount on my bike, and that any aluminum bike would be weakened by trying to deflect the fork wider to mount the Copenhagen Wheel. One of the partner shops listed on superpedestrian's web site (who had no idea they were a partner) also told me they would not mount it on an aluminum bike for the same reason.

So, it may be cool, but Superpedestrian, Inc needs to clarify that it may well not be useable on an aluminum bike, or at least on one that is bog standard like the Trek 2000.

I am not trying to bust them or anything, I just want to alert people who are searching on these keywords that this might be an issue.

Alex Paulsen
2 weeks ago

Too little too late. This thing lost its public interest years ago. If it were released in 2013 it might have gained a significant market share, but instead it's poorly released some many years later after I suspected it to be nothing but vapourware. Funny spoke pattern (patented) doesn't really make any sense to me.

Oh, and disc brakes? Nope.

Electric bike conversions don't need to be fast, they just need to be sensible and dependable. Some years ago before electric bikes were so abundant, I guess this may have had a chance, but it's not cheap, it's not terribly good, and it just seems to be completely uninteresting. It's criminally underpowered and low-range too, which further implies there's no good reason to own this over anything else available.

ForbinColossus
2 weeks ago

Amazing that the Copenhagen Wheel is back yet still looks identical to design of several years ago! In the meantime, bicycles sold with disc brakes have taken over the market. I want to see Superpedestrian succeed ... It seemed ready to go before, so one wonders what the heck happened behind the scenes. So many new companies crank out bookoo product; it doesn't inspire consumer confidence the way their product delay was handled. Anway, would prefer to see it on a bike with gears. Their website is fairly simple to select the correct size wheel.