Evelo Quest Max Review

Evelo Quest Max Electric Bike Review
Evelo Quest Max
Evelo Quest Max Quiet Bafang Max Mid Drive Ebike Motor
Evelo Quest Max Folded Left Battery Inside Downtube
Evelo Quest Max Backlit Color Bafang Lcd With Usb Port
Evelo Quest Max Bafang Dp C18 Button Pad Trigger Throttle
Evelo Quest Max Nfiniti C8 Grip Shifter For Nuvinci N380
Evelo Quest Max Front Schwalbe Big Apple Tire
Evelo Quest Max Integrated Spanninga Kendo Headlight Reflective Tires Plastic Fenders
Evelo Quest Max 180 Mm Tektro Aries Mechanical Disc Brakes Magnetic Clasp For Folding
Evelo Quest Max Usb Type A Charging Port On Battery On Off Switch
Evelo Quest Max Brown Selle Royale Free Way Comfort Saddle
Evelo Quest Max Alloy Rear Rack With Bungee Double Leg Kickstand
Evelo Quest Max Gates Carbon Belt Drive Cdx 70t Beltring
Evelo Quest Max Nuvinci N380 Cvt Hub
Evelo Quest Max Independent Spanninga Duxo Rear Light
Evelo Quest Max Folding Ebike Handlebar
Evelo Quest Max Folding Electric Bike Rear Rack
Evelo Quest Max Folded Right Side Belt Drive
Evelo Quest Max 36v 10 2ah Internal Battery
Evelo Quest Max 2 Amp Ebike Battery Charger
Evelo Quest Max Unboxing Foam Packaging
Evelo Quest Max Electric Bike Review
Evelo Quest Max
Evelo Quest Max Quiet Bafang Max Mid Drive Ebike Motor
Evelo Quest Max Folded Left Battery Inside Downtube
Evelo Quest Max Backlit Color Bafang Lcd With Usb Port
Evelo Quest Max Bafang Dp C18 Button Pad Trigger Throttle
Evelo Quest Max Nfiniti C8 Grip Shifter For Nuvinci N380
Evelo Quest Max Front Schwalbe Big Apple Tire
Evelo Quest Max Integrated Spanninga Kendo Headlight Reflective Tires Plastic Fenders
Evelo Quest Max 180 Mm Tektro Aries Mechanical Disc Brakes Magnetic Clasp For Folding
Evelo Quest Max Usb Type A Charging Port On Battery On Off Switch
Evelo Quest Max Brown Selle Royale Free Way Comfort Saddle
Evelo Quest Max Alloy Rear Rack With Bungee Double Leg Kickstand
Evelo Quest Max Gates Carbon Belt Drive Cdx 70t Beltring
Evelo Quest Max Nuvinci N380 Cvt Hub
Evelo Quest Max Independent Spanninga Duxo Rear Light
Evelo Quest Max Folding Ebike Handlebar
Evelo Quest Max Folding Electric Bike Rear Rack
Evelo Quest Max Folded Right Side Belt Drive
Evelo Quest Max 36v 10 2ah Internal Battery
Evelo Quest Max 2 Amp Ebike Battery Charger
Evelo Quest Max Unboxing Foam Packaging


  • A feature rich, powerful, folding electric bike with extendable stem and long seat post option for taller riders, it's easy to mount and handle, weight is positioned low and center
  • The Bafang Max mid-motor is powerful but efficient, you can adjust pedal speed gearing at standstill or while riding and there is no mashing because of the NuVinci CVT hub
  • Weighing nearly 51 lbs, this is heavier than the single-speed Evelo Quest One, and it costs $900 more, but is much more versatile and powerful, available in two colors (light blue and metallic grey)
  • Sturdy double-leg kickstand makes loading the rack or folding the bike easy, padded grips and and saddle pair with the premium Schwalbe Balloon tires for comfort, integrated lights and fenders increase safety, two USB charging ports, excellent customer support and warranty

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Quest Max



Body Position:


Suggested Use:

Neighborhood, Urban, Travel

Electric Bike Class:

Throttle on Demand (Class 2)
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2 Year Comprehensive, 4 Year (20,000 mile) Frame, Battery, Motor, Controller


United States, Canada

Model Year:


Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

50.8 lbs (23.04 kg)

Battery Weight:

4.1 lbs (1.85 kg) (Larger Pack 9 lbs)

Motor Weight:

7.5 lbs (3.4 kg)

Frame Material:

6061 Aluminum Alloy

Frame Sizes:

11.25 in (28.57 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

Unfolded Dimensions: 11.25" Seat Tube, 24.5" Reach, 23" Stand Over Height, 24" Width, 62.5" Length, Folded Dimensions: 32.5" Length, 18.5" Width, 28.5" Height

Frame Types:

Mid-Step, Folding

Frame Colors:

Granite Gray, Arctic Blue

Frame Fork Details:

Rigid Steel, 100 mm Hub Spacing, 9.8 mm Skewer with Quick Release

Frame Rear Details:

135 mm Hub, 10 mm Axle with Nuts

Attachment Points:

Rear Rack Bosses, Fender Bosses

Gearing Details:

1 Speed 1x∞, NuVinci N380 Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT) Hub, 380% Gear Ratio Range, 24 Tooth Sprocket

Shifter Details:

Nfinity C8 Half-Grip Twist on Right (Optional NuVinci Grip Twist on Right Bar)


8Fun Forged Alloy, 170 mm Crank Arms, 70 Tooth Gates CDX Beltring


Wellgo K20410 Plastic Platform, Folding


1-1/8" Threadless Internal Cups


Alloy, Folding, 280 mm Base Height, Telescoping Height (0 mm to 130 mm), Quick Release Handlebar Clamp 25.4 mm Diameter


Flat, Aluminum Alloy, 600 mm Length

Brake Details:

Tektro Aries Mechanical Disc with 180 mm Rotors, Four-Finger Levers with Motor Inhibitors


Padded, Stitched, Faux Leather, Brown or Black


Selle Royale Free Way, Brown or Black (Optional Upgrade Program)

Seat Post:

Aluminum Alloy

Seat Post Length:

460mm, 580 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

31.8 mm


Aluminum Alloy, Double Wall, 36 Hole, Machined Sidewalls, Black


Stainless Steel, 13 Gauge, Silver with Nipples

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Big Apple, 20" x 2.15" (55-406)

Wheel Sizes:

20 in (50.8cm)

Tire Details:

30 to 55 PSI, 2.0 to 4.0 BAR, LiteSkin Reflective Stripes, Performance Line RaceGuard Puncture Protection

Tube Details:

Schrader Valve


Adjustable Length Double-Leg Kickstand, Aluminum Alloy Rear Rack with Bungee Strap (25 kg 55 lb Max Weight), Integrated Spanninga Kendo Headlight, Independent Spanninga Duxo Backlight (Two AA Batteries), Plastic Fenders with Mud Flaps (60 mm Width), Double Leg Kickstand, Magnetic Clasp to Secure Folding, Optional Comfort Package (Ergon GP2-L Ergonomic Locking Grips, Suspension Seat Post, Extra Large Saddle for $199), Optional Safety Package (High Powered Lights, Bar-End Mirror, Bell, Reflective Light Band for Pants $99), Optional Commuter Package (Teflon Lubricant, Tire Levers, Patch Kit, Mini-Pump, Hex Key Wrench Set $99), Optional Security Package (Heavy Duty Chain Lock, Pinhead Security Hardware System $199)


Locking Removable Main-Tube Integrated Battery, 1.1 lb 2 Amp Battery Charger, 250 lb Max Weight Rating, Gates Carbon Belt Drive with CDX:EXP

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bafang Max Drive

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

350 watts

Motor Torque:

95 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Samsung (A & B Rated Cells) (Optional Panasonic)

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

10.2 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

367.2 wh

Battery Chemistry:


Charge Time:

5 hours (Up to 6 With Larger Pack)

Estimated Min Range:

20 miles (32 km)

Estimated Max Range:

40 miles (64 km)

Display Type:

Evelo Branded Bafang DP C18.UART, Fixed, Color, Backlit LCD with Light Sensor


Clock, Light Icon, Battery Capacity (Percentage, Infographic), Trip Distance, Odometer, Max Speed, Average Speed, Dynamic Range Estimate, Calories, Timer, Assist Level (0-5)

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad on Left (Buttons: +, -, Lights, Power, i), USB Type A Charging Port on Bottom of Display, Night Mode (Hold Up Arrow or Light Icon), Walk Mode (Hold Down Arrow), Settings Menu (Double Click i Button), USB Type A Charging Port on Side of Battery, On Off Switch on Side of Battery

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist, Trigger Throttle (8 Pole Cadence Sensor and Torque Sensor)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

At the time of this review, Evelo was producing two folding electric bicycles. I reviewed the lighter, more affordable, Evelo Quest One in 2017. It offered an efficient 250 watt geared hub motor and single speed drivetrain with a Gates belt drive. The Evelo Quest Max moves from the 41 lb footprint of the One, up to 50.9 lbs, while bringing a lot more power and a wide range of gearing. It still has the clean, quiet, durable, belt drive system with CDX center-track retention features, along with lights, fenders and a rear rack… but the rear light is not integrated. That means you’ll have to turn it on and off each time you activate the bike, and it requires independent AA batteries vs. running off of the main ebike battery. Either one of these folding ebikes would be great for people who travel with RV’s, boats, or private planes. The Quest Max will climb easier because of the 350 watt mid-motor and gearing, but might be difficult to lift without removing the seat post and possibly the 4.1 lb battery. Perhaps you’re someone with a shorter inseam, and just want a bike that can be mounted and controlled easily? The smaller 20″ wheelset brings the frame down, the motor and battery are both mounted low and centered here, and the stand-over height is just 23 inches. However, the folding joint at the middle of the frame can be a source of bumped and bruised knees and inner legs because it bulges out a bit. Without suspension, the Quest Max feels relatively stiff and stable, the fatter 2.15″ tires provide some comfort, along with the padded grips and upgraded saddle. I noticed that the seat post is thicker than average at 31.8 mm in diameter and the stem base is longer than that of the Evelo Quest One. Perhaps you’re a taller, heavier rider? This bike is capable of handling people with long legs because it comes with two seat post lengths. I fully extended the shorter 460 mm post and it worked great for my ~31″ inseam, but the 580 mm option is always there for people who need it, and want to maximize leg extension when pedaling.

Driving this bike is one of my favorite new mid-drive motors. It’s called the 350 watt Bafang Max Drive, and it’s very smooth and quiet. Capable of producing up to 95 Newton meters of torque, it should have no problem with hills, as long as you shift the gearing to a lower climbing ration. This mid-motor does not offer shift detection like some of the fancier Bosch hardware, but you don’t really need that with a continuously variable transmission. Inside the rear-mounted NuVinci N380 are metal orbs that change the rolling speed of the casing relative to the axle. The casing is connected to the spokes and wheel, while the axle remains fixed. The benefits are smooth, seamless shifting, without any jumps… you get 380 degrees of freedom, but it adds to the price and weight of the bike. Shifting is pretty simple, just twist the half-grip Nfiniti C8 on the right portion of the handlebar and watch as the infographic changes from a person climbing to a parson on flatter terrain. Evelo chose a very large 70 tooth chainring for this bike in order to offset the faster rotation speed of the small 20″ wheels. This way, pedal strokes feel natural and slow vs. super fast. During my test ride, I shifted through different gearing ratios and found that in order to reach the top assisted speed of 20 mph, I had to shift to a lower gear. When using the higher gears, the motor would spin quickly and produce a higher pitched whine while only reaching ~10 mph. This is perfect for climbing, and it all makes me appreciate how versatile a mid-motor can be compared to the hub motor and single speed drivetrain of the Evelo Quest One. I love how light that bike is, but it just isn’t as fun to start or climb with. Since there is only one beltring and one rear belt sprocket on this bike, the belt is very straight and taught. It shouldn’t come off, and won’t be as noisy or messy as a chain. My pant leg did touch the belt, but there were no issues with snags or grease.

Powering the motor, beautiful color display panel, and headlight, is a good sized 36 volt 10.4 amp hour internally mounted battery pack. This pack only weighs ~4.1 lbs because it is encased in plastic vs. aluminum. The pack slides into the main tube of the battery, locking in place, and can only be accessed when the bike is unfolded. You can unlock the pack and slide it out to charge separately (and keep it away from extreme heat and cold to reduce strain on the Lithium-ion cells), or you can open the little rubber flap on the left side of the frame to charge while mounted. The battery charger for this ebike is a very average speed 2 amp design that is compact and lightweight at just 1.1 lbs. It’s the kind of thing that can easily be tossed into a trunk bag and brought along on rides! Evelo actually sells a very nice trunk bag that has integrated reflectors and can be unzipped to fold down on the sides for extra space in integrated panniers. Evelo sells a wide range of accessories and upgrades to help you with comfort, security, and commuting, but I think it’s pretty well setup stock. So again, for a folding ebike, the Quest Max weighs a bit more than average but offers a powerful motor, relatively large battery pack, and gives you many ways to use that power. There’s a USB port built into the side of the battery as well as the display panel (along the bottom edge) so you can charge a phone while riding. This is useful if you’re exploring a new area and using your phone for GPS directions. The only drawback to the battery design that I experienced with this review, was that it does not power the rear light. A couple of times when unfolding the bike, I also saw the black cable housing cover (a little plastic strip running along the base of the middle of the frame) come off as the wires pulled on it. Most cheaper electric bicycles do not have fancy cable routing like this, and perhaps it was only my demo bike that had the issue? I must say however, that the bike arrived to me in excellent condition and had been shipped with a lot of love and care. It was double boxed, had lots of foam pieces, zip ties, and even bubble wrap, as well as a service checklist and deep instructions guide. This is a great experience when buying such an expensive product sight unseen… and the 2+ year Evelo warranty and phone support are above average in my experience.

Operating this bike is two or three step process depending on the lighting conditions outside. The first step is to consider that rear light, do you need to turn it on in anticipation of dark conditions? It might be worth activating even in the daytime… Next, you can click the little toggle on/off switch that is physically located on the left side of the battery, reached through the rubber opening on the left side of the frame. Click it from the 0 to the 1 and then replace the rubber grommet. Next, you need to hold the power button on the control pad for a few seconds. Once active, the display will readout “EVELO” and then show a clock, battery percentage, current speed, assist level (0-5) and trip distance. If you press the i button on the control pad, you can cycle through lots of other menus such as odometer, max speed, and range. The range estimator menu is very fancy! It dynamically calculates how far the bike can go in the currently-selected level of assist. I was clicking through on a full battery and got a 48 mile estimate for assist level 1, which is pretty impressive. Most rides in higher levels of assist, or with the throttle, will probably reach 20+ miles. This display can be angled to reduce glare, but it is not removable. Pay special attention to turn it off when mounting and dismounting, and consider putting a sock over it when folding the bike, to reduce scratches that might occur. I love how the dropouts on this frame have magnets to keep the bike folded, but I did notice some scratching and chipping had occurred where the clasp came undone… that’s just the name of the game with folding bikes, blankets and towels can help. Back to the display, you can enter into the settings menu to adjust the top speed of the bike, change brightness, or enter a security password by double pressing the i button. To me, the whole setup was really nice, and I appreciate how the display has a light sensor built-in to automatically adjust brightness and activate the headlight. There’s a manual light button on the control pad as well, so it feels like everything has been thought of. My biggest discovery when riding however, is that the trigger throttle only becomes active once you are riding six miles per hour (or faster). This is probably a safety feature, but it can be frustrating if you’re climbing a big hill slowly (because you’re in a low gear) and need throttle support. It would be much nicer if the throttle activated at two miles per hours, or maybe even from zero, to help you get started after stop signs and traffic signals. That said, very few mid-drive ebikes even have throttles like this. The motor listens for cadence and pedal torque so you get pretty instant help pedaling, and since you can shift to low gears without even moving the bike, the setup should work well-enough for most situations.

All things considered, this is an amazing folding electric bike! But, it really should be for this price point. I really appreciate the two color options, light blue and metallic grey. The blue is fun, but the grey is a bit more masculine, and this platform could work great as a his and hers setup for RV couples. Folding and unfolding the bike was relatively easy with the sturdy double-leg adjustable kickstand… but it didn’t always stow perfectly without a bit of extra help. Even though it doesn’t have a suspension fork, the ride quality and comfort was good because of the adjustable stem, seat post, and the great tires. Really, these tires are awesome! They have reflective sidewalls to keep you visible and integrated puncture protection lining. It’s no fun to get a flat tire when riding in a new city. Both wheels require tools to remove and work on because they are attached with bolts, and the rear wheel has special horizontal dropouts with tensioners to make the belt tight. Keep an eye on the tire pressure and just try to avoid thorns and glass etc. if you can. The 180 mm mechanical disc brakes are large and strong, with motor inhibitors built into both levers. I have seen fancier levers from Tektro with rubberized edges that feel a bit nicer and have an integrated bell (something this bike did not have). The four finger design gives you plenty of leverage to stop at high speed, but the smaller 20″ wheels start to feel a little unstable at high speeds… even with the reinforced and sturdy joints of the folds on this bike. I guess what I’m saying is that, I probably wouldn’t want to ride over 20 mph, but that this feels more stable than average for a folding bike. There’s a lot to consider when buying a bicycle online, but I have seen how far Evelo will go to help their customers, and I trust them. This is one of the few folding electric bikes that offer the unique combination of a quality mid-motor with a belt drive and CVT hub. It’s a beautiful looking product too, so you won’t stand out or be creating a lot of noise, even on longer rides. I’ll do my best to help answer questions in the comments below and you can connect directly with others in the Evelo Forums. I’d like to thank Evelo for partnering with me on this post, sending out a demo bike to test in the cold snowy weather! It worked out pretty well :)


  • In many cases, people who purchase this ebike will be receiving it by mail because there is only one showroom (in Seattle, Washington), but the packaging was excellent… double layer cardboard and lots of strategically positioned foam and bubble wrap, the bike came in near-perfect condition
  • The bike came with a very thorough easy-to-read manual and a checklist of all the things that Evelo tested before shipping the bike, there’s a higher level of care here, and the company is well-known for offering excellent customer service
  • Evelo offers some of the best customer service in the industry based on what I hear and have experienced as a customer when they were just getting started in 2013, you get a 2-year comprehensive warranty, a sliding-scale battery replacement plan, and they now have a factory shop in Seattle where you can take test rides
  • The Bafang Max Drive motor is one of the quietest and smoothest value-priced mid-drives I have tested, I like how it measures cadence and torque and really appreciate the integrated motor inhibitors here on the brake levers, for an added layer of safety and control
  • Very few mid-drive ebikes offer throttle operation, but you get that with the Evelo Quest, the only limitation is that you must be pedaling a bit and moving faster than ~6 mph for the throttle to activate
  • Weighing ~50.9 lbs, this isn’t the lightest folding ebike, but it does have lights, fenders, and a rear rack… the mid-motor and NuVinci N380 CVT add the most weight, thankfully, you can remove the battery and saddle with seat post quickly to make it easier to lift, it would then be ~45 lbs
  • I love that display panel has a full sized USB port built into the bottom, so you can run portable electronic devices while riding (such as your phone for GPS), and there is a second USB port on the battery pack itself so you can use it for portable power on the go
  • The display provides lots of detailed readouts, including battery percentage and a dynamic range estimate, you can adjust settings by double tapping the i button and set a lower top speed, a password, backlight brightness, and more
  • The demo bike that I received came with two seat posts, one was extra long for taller riders, I like how the stem telescopes upwards and has a longer sturdy base than the Evelo Quest One
  • Even though this folding e-bike does not have suspension, it does have a plush saddle, puffy stitched grips, a vibration dampening steel fork, and high quality 2.15″ wide balloon tires that reduce vibration and bumps
  • Considering that a folding bike may come along on adventures to new locations where you might not know your surroundings… it’s wonderful that this one has integrated lights and reflective tires to help keep you safe
  • The NuVinci N380 continuously variable transmission can be shifted at standstill and has a super simple shifting mechanism, the half-grip twister is clean and easy to understand (you twist forward to make pedaling easier for starting and climbing and twist backward to make the bike go faster but pedaling will increase in difficulty)
  • Very few electric bikes come stock with the Gates Carbon belt drive but it’s an awesome feature, lasting longer than a chain, weighing less, getting less dirty, being less likely to fall off because of the CDX center-track design
  • Evelo sells a few optional accessory packages and I LOVE the trunk bag option, it has reflective fabric and fold-out panniers for those times when you really need extra space… the bag is awesome and works perfectly with this smaller rack design, full sized panniers may hang down and rub (though I have not tested them)
  • I feel like Evelo found the perfect balance of control and safety with their throttle design, it is not active at assist level zero or when the brake levers are pulled, you can only activate the throttle in 1-5 assist when moving at 6+ mph, it’s still a good idea to always shut the bike off before folding or mounting/dismounting just to be safe
  • Even with the fenders and rack, which sometimes rattle on electric bikes, the Evelo Quest Max rode very quiet, even across the bumpy sections of road I tried


  • The double-leg kickstand is very stable and is useful when loading the rear rack or folding the bike, it even stays out of the way of the crank arms! but it doesn’t stow very easily, I had to kick back and inwards to get it up
  • Along the base of the main tube, there are two plastic covers that help to organize and hide the wires that come from the brakes, shifter, and control center, and the second section of plastic kept falling off (especially when folding the bike), perhaps a zip tie or more secure attachment design for this piece would be good
  • Evelo does have a physical storefront, in Seattle Washington, but most people will probably order online without getting to take a test ride, setup of the folding bike was very easy (I only had to adjust the handlebars a bit), but there’s a lot of packaging and waste to deal with in the process
  • I love the magnetic clasps at the front and rear dropout on the left side of the bike, that keeps it folded, but did notice some scratching and chipping on the fork from where the clasp had released, you might want to use an adjustable bungee cord and a towel to add extra support when transporting the bike and keep an eye out for scratches on the steel fork in particular, because it could rust over time compared to the aluminum alloy frame
  • The throttle is disabled at standstill and requires the bike to be moving ~6 mph to activate (and possibly for you to be pedaling a bit too), sometimes it’s nice to have throttle at zero to get started from stop signs and traffic signals… but at least you can shift gears at standstill with this ebike
  • Minor consideration, the folding hinge at the middle of the frame bulges out for strength but could bump your knee or inner leg when pedaling or mounting and dismounting the frame
  • The Spanninga brand lights are very nice, and I love how the headlight is aimable and runs off of the main battery, the backlight is not quite as fancy and requires two AA batteries (which are included), it’s just one more step to turn on and off each time you go for a ride
  • The display panel is not easily removable and could get scratched when folded or parked near other bikes, it does offer adjustable angle and you could always put a sock over it to keep it from getting damaged during transport
  • Plastic folding pedals don’t usually offer as much stiffness, surface area, or traction as metal or non-folding, you’ve already got fenders here and if you ride in the rain a lot, maybe consider some upgraded metal folders like these
  • The seat post doesn’t slide all the way down to the seat tube level which means you probably want to take it completely off when folding the bike (to make the bike as compact as possible), the downside is that the saddle and post will then be floating around, unattached to the bike


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14 hours ago

I have an EV and I would like a folding bike as an emergency travel option if I need to leave the car charging as well as for travel fun. I an 5 foot one and wight 260 (don't judge). I have RA and was also hit by a car and had my back and sacrum and fibula broken and at 53 that healing process is slower now. I need a comfy, not too heavy folding bike, and have been looking at the Evelo Quest one, the Mate s and the RADmini. I am open to all and any suggestions. I have an iZip cruiser but it is too big for the Bolt. Thanks!

1 day ago

So I've had my 2016 Full7 Bosch powered Haibike for about a year and 1400 miles of total enjoyment!
Only issue is what seems like chain noise. It used to be so quiet, the only noise being the rubber hitting the road. But over the last several hundred miles it has developed a noise that only occurs while I am pedaling. Brought it over to my Haibike dealer (around the corner from where I live!) and they changed out the chain and put a new bearing in the small sprocket equalizing system which helped but not entirely, and now, a hundred miles or so later the noise is back. A friend mentioned that she has the same noise from her Full7.
I keep the chain and sprockets clean and well lubricated. I ride 99% of the time on bike paths but very little off road.
Any ideas? Could my cluster need replacing? Could it be coming from the motor? Any help very welcomed!

3 days ago

Selling my low mileage/usage Sondors 7 speed with upgraded battery, suspension forks & LCD display.

Local sale only. Portland, OR area. Willing to travel within reason.

Paid $1,152 shipped to my door. Make an offer. I'm around $900 price range so don't try to low ball me with your sob story. Either you can afford it or you can't. Fair deals. No charity here.

Silver in color.

Bought to develop our product offerings to be compatible with sondors folks. However the admin of the facebook sondors group is a jerk and banned me for owning another brand e-bike so... unable to market our products to Sondors owners - I have no need to own this bike for research/development reasons - which is what it was purchased for. ...you can thank the admins of the Sondors group for the lack of GREAT low priced, hand made in USA, Sondors specific accessories. Hence the reason for the sale of this bike. Useless to me :)


Chris Hammond
6 days ago

I think this discussion just shows what Tora has instillied as a company philosophy at Juiced. He has clearly been very forward thinking, and it seems, doing an excellent job in developing and building bikes that are not going to be obsolete in a few years, and making higher performance attainable at reasonable prices. Keep up the great work. I will be ordering my CCS with the big battery as soon as I get my tax refund.

6 days ago

Anxiously waiting for the release of the Pre-order. Thanks

1 week ago

In case anyone is interested I have an update. Fortunately for me a Haibike dealer opened up in the next town over. I test rode a SDURO Cross 4.0 as well as the Hard Nine which was $500 more. I loved them both but the Hard Nine just felt better. The only problem is the area did not have the massive hills we have on our road and what I anticipate when we move to Tennessee. So I was not convinced it will be able to handle those as I weigh 240 pounds.

It says it has a 500W motor but the spec sheet says 250W with a max of 500W. Does that match what we have been referring to as a 500W motor, where that's really the max output?

My concern about longevity was confirmed when the shop said the battery may last 5 years with a replacement costing $500. This has caused me to wait, hopefully the battery development will continue to improve. Besides I need this at retirement in 6 years and I don't want to have to buy multiple batteries.

1 week ago

This is my 2nd wheel after the original developed motor issues. Noticed this after cleaning dried salt/dirt off from winter commuting. Of the 5-6 other cracks I've seen this it the worse of it. I wonder if it'll be cheaper to buy a new wheel or get this re-laced with a new rim/spokes. If I can find a good matching rim I would definitely go with higher gauge spokes then the 12's used on these which take too much tension.

John from Connecticut
1 week ago

Will, Again in my opinion you're spot on....I've been there, done that as they say ( paid for a professional fit ) and it has made all the difference
in the world for riding comfort. You wrote.....

"If a rider selects the proper saddle for their position on the bike and has a saddle that supports the sit bones correctly that is more important than pretty much anything. Never buy a saddle because everyone has it or that it looks cool. There's more important considerations here. "

Thanks to my LBS Mgr / Pro Fitter he did just as you stated, selected the proper saddle and I can ride 'forever', well 2-3 hours until my battery is done. When I bought my bike, my LBS did a basic fit, I rode for a week -ish- just to get the feel of the bike, returned and we did the real fit.

I'll never forget the feeling of the initial post fit ride and how the correct leg extension felt. I thought I was on a different bike it was so great. As for a Brooks saddle for me, what I have works and works very well. I think I stick with it.

I hope this forum was helpful to others, I know it was very helpful for me. Thank you Will for your input, much appreciated.

John from CT

Arnel Philippines
1 week ago
1 week ago

@Arnel Philippines this would have been useful information in your earlier posts about having error codes developing on your bike. I have never had to open a Bosch drive unit on any of our trail bikes. This is the most likely reason why you are having error codes etc. on your bike. If you crack open the drive unit you are breaking the factory seal and hence why your dive unit is full of corrosion.

1 week ago

The vast majority of cyclist's don't need a high end saddle they need a properly designed and fitted saddle for their body type and riding position.

If a rider selects the proper saddle for their position on the bike and has a saddle that supports the sit bones correctly that is more important than pretty much anything. Never buy a saddle because everyone has it or that it looks cool. There's more important considerations here.

While Brooks and similar companies have been around for ages it's not for everyone. There is a huge following of Brooks saddle lovers and that's awesome, and if you are dedicated and willing to spend the time to set it up, ride in saddle to break it in, you will love it. Remember those leather shoes we use to get from Mom and Dad. Ouch they hurt when new, but eventually they fit us perfectly. I know for myself I remember those blisters at the begining of each new school year and am probably still traumatized by them, anyhow that's another post.... (wow that kinda makes me feel old remembering those days) :)

However, there is also a huge number of people who prefer something that will give them great comfort straight out of the package. How many of us still buy full leather shoes? Just a few I presume from looking into any show store or sporting goods shops.

I hear this on forums and in store all the time where people go out a spend big $$ on leather ones and ergo gel one's in the search for the ultimate saddle. They buy brand "X" because , well it looks cool, online reviews claim it's the best, and riders swear by them which is great. But most people expect fast results and want to be comfortable now and not in 300 miles. We see them come into the shop asking for help as the $$$ saddle they purchased is not ideal and hurts.

The posts above talked about "fit". This is HUGE, as it's super important to properly position your saddle on your bike. It's amazing how we see saddle angles and saddle positions incorrectly installed on a bike. Most people have no idea that a saddle is actually adjustable and should be adjusted for each rider.

There will always be the enthusiasts who are dedicated to their hobby sport, but realistically I have yet to see any significant % of cyclists willing to spend time oiling a leather saddle, tension it, protect it from the elements etc...(think polishing your shoes regualarily like Grandpa use to). For those who want to and are willing to dedicate the time that's awesome you will have a rewarding saddle that fits you like a glove or like a fine pair of italian shoes. The average consumer wants and needs a pair of "Hush Puppies" (not sure that's the best looking brand, but you get the idea).

As mentioned properly fitting / adjsuting the saddle on your bike is super important. The most common issues we see with saddles are:

1 - Saddle / seatpost not set to the correct height. There is a little science involved here and this is typically a 2 person job to get this right. Proper leg extension is key. This is another topic completely and there is lots of content out there that shows how to measure this correctly. If you need a hand, a good shop will have at the very least some tools to measure this. If they don't that's scary.

2- Angle of the saddle is too far down (nose pointing downwards) which typically causes riders to develop pain / fatigue / numbness in the wrists, hand area etc....

3- Angle of the saddle pointing upwards (nose pointing upwards) which we normally see associated with neck, lower back and shoulder pain

4- Improper saddle set back. Set what you say? Yeap, those 2 metal rails under the saddle not only look good they allow for the saddle to be moved both forward and backwards. A good atarting point is to start somewhere near the middle.

There are several theories for how to set this up correctly. For most non competitive riders either one of the methods works just fine. At the shop for a basic fit, we use a plumb bob and place it at the forward part of the clients kneecap and see where it lines up in relation to the pedal spindle. What we are looking for here is to see where this lines up. If the line is in front of the spindle of then the saddle needs to be slid towards the rear. If the line if drops behind the spindle then the saddle needs to be moved forward.

5- Riders installing a suspension seatpost and don't take into account the that the position of the saddle changes when a load is applied to it. Depending on the type of suspension seatpost this can be minor to extreme. So you want to check this out in your owners manual for any recommendations that may have come with your seat post.

With all this being said, don't just go out and start moving everything around on your bike. Start from the basics and learn more about how to adjust these items before doing so. I highly recommend chatting with an expert (online or in store), getting a fit done in store or watching some great videos on Youtube (from a shop that knows how to fit, not some dude in his garage).

There is a lot that a rider can do to improve their level of comfort. Don't just go out an buy a saddle because everyone else has "X" brand or that it looks cool. It's all about fitment to your body type, gender and riding position.

This is why I am such a big fan of saddles that make selecting a saddle easy for consumers. While a high tech saddle and a fitment is the best, very few people will spend $200 - $400 on a saddle and another $150 on a fit. There are quite a few options out here, so just be honest with your ability and the time you want to invest.

If you have the interest and the time to spend adjusting, rubbing oils, tensioning etc.... of a leather saddle then go for it. To prep a leather saddle in 3-4 days takes work and patience, it doesn't just get set up without applying oils, baking it, soaking it etc..... Normally you need anywhere between 300 - 600 miles on it for it to fit you (waiting for a list of messages saying not true but it is) . If done right, you will be rewarded and you will love your leather saddle and probably will never want to part with it.

If you are like the vast majority of people (including myself), you wont spend the time doing it. In my opinion you are better off taking the time to select a saddle that matches your riding position, gender and adjust it properly on the bike. You will be so happy you did.

hope this helps and ride safe everyone,


2 weeks ago

Would massively appreciate some advice as I just can't choose a bike.

I'm trying to find a new commuter bike. Roughly 4 miles each way. No need for long distances. Had an EJoe 2015 epik SE which I hated. It fell apart and stopped working pretty early on and customer support sucked. It also wasn't very sturdy. It's just sitting dead in my garage now so I'm pretty burned by that experience.

Looking for something sturdy, fairly fast and with good support. I was looking at the Evelo Aurora which I can get for 3k with the 500w motor or the Stromer ST 1 platinum which I can get for 2.8k. Anyone got experience with these or have other suggestions?

1 month ago

Karmic Koben S Review

A little bit about me

I’ve been a regular recreational/fitness cyclist for about 50 years. I didn’t get my drivers license until age 18, preferring to ride my bicycle everywhere I needed to go. When I was younger I did ride 3 century rides, but most of my riding in the past couple of decades has been in the 18-25-mile range, depending on the route, with a few longer rides thrown in here and there. I did do some commuting to work on my bicycle, but not much, and since 2006 I have worked out of my home office. I’ve almost always done my own bicycle maintenance, and have always disliked and been tuned into any strange noises while riding. I currently own 3 bicycles – Trek 7.9 FX (non-electric), EVELO Quest Max (foldable e-bike), and the Koben S. At the point of writing this review, I now have 314 miles on the Koben S, which has given me time to get to know it. I live in South Florida, so my riding season is pretty much all year long.

Why did I choose this e-bike?

I already own a foldable e-bike to use when camping. After lots of research, it was chosen because of the technology being used, which includes the Bafang Max Drive motor, Gates carbon belt drive, and NuVinci N380 continuously variable transmission (CVT). I am very happy with how that bike rides, but I wanted to find a full-sized Class 3 bike to use for both recreation and fitness, and that would be good for riding on both paved roads, and gravel or hardpacked trails. That eventually led me to the Koben S, which uses the same technology as the foldable bike. I originally had a CrossCurrent S from Juiced Bikes on pre-order, but I cancelled that order when I found the Koben S. On top of the technology being used on the Koben S, I also liked the other specifications and looks of the bike, which you can see on the http://www.karmicbikes.com/ web site. I selected the Blackout color and size medium (I’m about 5’9” tall). As mentioned, I’m not commuting when I ride the Koben S, and I’m not in a hurry. I like to pedal and don’t need or want a throttle. If I want to start off fast from a red light, I just use a higher pedal assist level and a lower gear.

Ordering and receiving the bike

The online ordering process from the Karmic web site was straightforward. It took about a week for the bike to arrive in South Florida from California, after traveling over the Christmas holiday. Otherwise it would have taken about 5 days. The box arrived undamaged and the bike was well packaged. It took me about 2.5 hours to assemble the bike, but that included removing it from the packaging, getting everything setup to my preference, and truing both the brake rotors and wheels.

Riding the bike

This is a Class 3 bike, meaning there is no throttle, and pedal assist is limited to 28 mph. I live in South Florida, so other than riding over something like a drawbridge, we don’t have hills. But we do have wind. Sometimes very strong wind. So, although the NuVinci shifter shows a bike on a hill for low gears, that also applies to riding into a headwind. When I am at a stop, or when coming up to a stop, I do shift into a low gear for getting going, but when riding it’s just about being at a comfortable cadence. Because it’s a CVT, sometimes only a minor twist of the shifter is required to adjust to my preferred cadence. After years of riding with standard gearing and derailleurs, and sometimes wishing I had a gear in-between two available gears, I really appreciate the CVT. Between the different pedal assist levels, and the large range of gears available, it is very adaptable to matching your preferred speed and cadence.

So how fast have I gone on the Koben S? So far 39.3 mph, but that was going downhill over a drawbridge with a strong wind at my back. Pedal assist cut out once I was going over 28 mph, and it smoothly started up again once I hit level ground and slowed down to that speed. The bike felt very stable at high speed.

Modifications to Karmic-supplied build

Are any modifications necessary to use the bicycle as delivered from Karmic? For how I am using the bicycle, no. If you need a rack for your use case, that is something you would need to supply. However, there are some modifications that I chose to make, based on my personal preferences.

· Ergonomic grips - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JAXEO04/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

· Shimano A530 SPD pedals - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001MZ2AGO/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

· BodyFloat isolation seatpost - https://shop.cirruscycles.com/products/bodyfloat-2-0-aluminum?variant=18181094981

· Bar end mirror - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B06XPV4G7Q/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

· I also added a water bottle and cage. Note: a taller water bottle wouldn’t fit - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0083VKZ44/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JUKV662/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Wheels and tires and fenders

The wheels on the Koben S seem to be good quality, as do the tires. I wasn’t sure I would like the tires, because of the large gum wall look, but they’ve grown on me and I like them now. Getting some positive comments from people I’ve talked to while out riding probably helped. The tires roll very smoothly, and they are rated for between 35-55 PSI. After trying some different pressures, I’ve settled on 40 PSI in the front and 50 PSI in the back. That seems to provide me with the best cushion/shock absorption in the front, and rolling efficiency in the back where more weight needs to be supported. With the BodyFloat seatpost I don’t need the extra cushion from the tire in the back. The fenders seem to be functional, but since I am just riding when I want, I try not to ride in the rain. I did get stuck once already though, and the fenders did their job. I’ve noticed some squeaking noises from the back fender when going on bumps, but some WD-40 in a couple of key places has eliminated most of that noise.


I’m very happy with the Koben S. It’s smooth, quiet, legal, and fast enough for my needs. I haven’t pushed the range to the limit yet, but it looks like I could ride about 50-60 miles if I stayed in the lower pedal assist levels for most of the ride. It’s not an inexpensive bike, but as compared to other bikes using this, or similar technology, it’s priced very fairly. I find myself wanting to ride it every day, so that’s a plus. Two thumbs up.

Denis Shelston
5 months ago

Wow, that Evelo is nice. Cool features and practically double the price. Web site says they start shipping in late October.

Voltbike says the new Urban ships early October.

5 months ago

They better ship my order soon, if not I will cancel it and get a Evelo Quest Max.

Stephen Hatgis
1 week ago

Court - please get a camera holder so you can keep two hands on the bars...

1 week ago

So this is a ebike with balls? They should put that in the marketing.

David Keenan
1 week ago

This looks like one of the nicest fold up E-bikes I've seen yet. Great review! Live the components the this model has.

1 week ago

Hey, thanks for the compliment! It really is a special folding ebike, Evelo has been doing a wonderful job expanding their lineup and offering unique custom builds. This is definitely one of my favorite folding ebikes right now too :)

Yu HaDeN
1 week ago

Great review.

1 week ago

Thank you so much! I'm glad I was given the opportunity to share this with you and that you enjoyed it :)

1 week ago

I love the NuVinci trans and belt drive! Nice review!

1 week ago

Thank you! The setup is very unique and beautiful... quiet, clean, easy to use. I like the combination a lot :)

Hiking In Sierras
1 week ago

As an owner & rider of this make/model, I can say that this a great urban commuter.  The CVT transmission is heavy, but the mid drive motor helps to offset the weight.  The belt drive + NuVinci makes for a maintenance-free ride.   I'll have a better idea of the reliability in the next 500 miles.

1 week ago

Fantastic! It's always wonderful to hear feedback from a true owner of a product, and it sounds like it has been doing well for you. Hope it brings many more smiles :)

1 week ago

This spec is pretty much _exactly_ what I've been looking for: quiet Bafang motor, Gates belt w/ maintenance-friendly frame, NuVinci paired with a giant front ring, well-placed trigger throttle, good brakes (w/o hydraulic maintenance hassles), real USB (2 ports, no less!), folds and is well under 50 lbs for carrying up stairs once the battery is off, standard duty rack, double kick-stand, broad high-viz puncture-resistant tires with thicker spokes and mud-guard fenders, integrated front light at least (rear, too, would have been great), small footprint a worthwhile tradeoff for less comfort and stability. I just wish the display was removable so slotting it into place automatically turned the bike on, and that it 4-wheel rolled trolley-style while folded. If they offered their Compass trike with NuVinci, I might consider that, as well.

Way cheaper than R&M's ludicrously expensive Tinker. Tern's Vektron does roll while folded—which would really have been the Quest Max's cherry on top—but the Vektron's obnoxious Bosch motor is a non-starter for me, and the GSD won't fold plus its hauling makes the wrong structural tradeoffs for me since I'm not its target market (sadly, the Tern/Xtracycle Cargo Node appears defunct). The asking price of the Quest Max is fair, I'd say.

Poor Court, your arm is visibly shaking from cold as you gesture, your nose is red, you're panting for breath, your brow furrows fighting for concentration as you speak, and your voice is compressed nasally to avoid full exposure to the cold air in your sinuses! Maybe gear up a little more next time it's that cold ;-) Thanks for another fantastic, thoroughly informative review!

1 week ago

ElectricBikeReview.com I'd love to explore the possibility of reviewing bikes for EBR! Please look for my message to you on ElectricBikeReview.com's forums (same handle) soon! :-)

1 week ago

Great insights and thoughts about using a removable display as a key, and the whole rolling trolley design! You really are an insightful and detailed individual, would you ever want to help do reviews for EBR? And, thank you so much for your concerns about my body and feelings... it was cold, but I feel blessed to get to share these positive products and to be able to do this as a job, I keep my spirits up, but it's nice to receive care :)

Lysle Basinger
1 week ago

I wonder if they would build this with a right hand throttle like almost all motorcycles and scooters?

Ken Herr
1 week ago

The shifter couldn't be moved to the other side because of the part of the shifter that displays the bike rider on a hill or level ground. You wouldn't want to not be able to see that.

1 week ago

Hi Lysle! I feel like anything is possible, but Ken is correct that the half-grip twister for the NuVinci is already on the right. Maybe it could be switched to the other side and then a motor twist throttle could go on the right? Where there is a will (and a bit of money) there is usually a way :D

Ken Herr
1 week ago

That wouldn't really work, since the shifter is on the right side and it can't be moved to the left.

1 week ago

This is what the schwinn should have been for the price they were asking.

1 week ago

ElectricBikeReview.com yeah, i mean a seamless integration of belt drive? Center lift kickstand that doesnt obstruct the pedals?
Pretty slick.

1 week ago

Yeah, both bikes are built around the same drive systems, but Evelo has put more thought and care into the rest of the bike it seems. They really are a leader in terms of customer support (always have been) but are now becoming a product leader as well in my opinion :)

Javier Peletier Maura
1 week ago

Hi Court. Nice review, Thanks.
Apparently NuVinci seems to be a little beat hard to move. What's your opinion, please?
Thanks in advance and regards

Javier Peletier Maura
1 week ago

ElectricBikeReview.com Interesting points to know. Thank you Court.

1 week ago

Hi Javier! Yes, it seems like maybe the combination of belt and NuVinci made this bike feel less light and crisp to pedal, some of my energy was lost through the drive system when I had pedaled while it was turned off. There is also the added weight, but that seems like a smaller issue than the CVT conversion. It's not a deal killer, you do get benefits from the NuVinci, but it just doesn't seem as efficient as a cassette or some internally geared hubs.

Ken Herr
1 week ago

It wasn't cutting off when you went over 20 because you had the speed setting set for 40 mph. It would normally be set for 20. We got two of these bikes in November (one of each color), and we take them with us when we're camping. When folded, they both fit into the back of our crew cab truck with the seats folded up. We really like them and have even done some hard packed trail riding at some of the State Parks where we've camped. We also use them around home when we aren't camping, and they are great for riding down to the beach for lunch and stuff like that. I believe the Bafang Max drive is rated for >80nm of torque, not 95nm. Still, in pedal assist 3, 4 or 5, it really helps to flatten out the hills, or to help in a strong headwind. They really are quiet and are a blast to ride.

EVELO Electric Bicycles
1 week ago

Ken, that's correct. The Bafang Max motor we use is labeled as MM G330.350 on their site: http://www.bafang-e.com/en/components/component/motor/mm-g330250.html.

You are correct about the torque rating as well. This motor is rated at 80Nm. It's identical to our 500W mid-drive motors on the older Aries, Aurora, Orion and Luna models. This is actually a perfect example of why the wattage is not always a good way to compare motors in particular and ebikes in general.

Ken Herr
1 week ago

I don't think that's the same motor. I believe it is the same one you reviewed here: https://electricbikereview.com/evelo/galaxy-st/

Thanks for your reviews!

1 week ago

Thanks for the details Ken! I was surprised about the Nm rating of the motor as well, got that spec from the Bafang official website, but perhaps I was looking at the wrong motor? This is where I got it: http://www.bafang-e.com/en/components/component/motor/mm-g120220.html and good catch on the 40 mph, I guess if you had a the correct gearing to actually pedal at a reasonable RPM around 40 mph the motor would still activate. Nice to hear about your real world experience and how these fit into your truck. Safe travels friend :)

yeah ok
1 week ago

It seems as if you mention other mid drive systems when reviewing anything other than Bosch... why is that?

1 week ago

Bosch was the first mid-motor I tested in the USA (around the time of Bafang BBS01) and seems so widespread that I feel most people who have been to shops might know it. So, I often relate other motors back to it. I have been working on a motor comparison video actually, and prefer the new Brose S to the Bosch CX... but Bosch is there because of their influence and availability. I don't mean to be one sided. I do appreciate the Bosch dealer support, reliability, warranty (especially compared to Bafang), and their shift sensing. So with the Quest Max, lack of shift sensing wasn't as much of an issue because of the CVT. I just share what goes through my mind ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

1 week ago

Evelo makes good bikes from all I've seen and this is more of the same - nice components. NuVinci/belt/mid motor is really nice set up for those who aren't into shifting - love how quiet that Bafang motor is - puts those annoying Bosch motors to shame. Doesn't have annoying chain slap either - and fenders didn't make a racket from what I saw. That said, not sure that a 50lb foldable bike is all that practical. The small wheels make it very twitchy with such a steep head angle/no front suspension. Think it's a bike you'd really need to test ride or you could be disappointed for $2.8K price...

1 week ago

Great insights, most of the folding 20" ebikes I have tested feel a little twitchy around and above 20 mph, I think this one was stiff and solid, definitely appreciate the fatter tires. Great catch on the quiet fenders, that crossed my mind after I stopped filming and was editing.

Hiking In Sierras
1 week ago

If the tires are at the correct pressure, the tires seems stable to me.

Fred Horner
1 week ago

Did you feel the difference in that from other bikes because of the 95nm of torque it's claiming? That seems like it would be able to take a hill very easily given the potential power it has.

1 week ago

Hi Fred! To me, the motor torque of the Bafang Max Drive is great, on par with other leaders, it isn't as zippy as Bosch CX, isn't as fluid and responsive as Brose S, but is the quietest and more affordable than those two. I really like it for city applications for this but it does surprisingly well on mountain bikes too, check this out: https://electricbikereview.com/volton/alation-mid-drive-48v/

1 week ago

Great bike! Love your channel thanks for the reviews!

1 week ago

Hey, thank you so much! It's an honor to get to share this positive stuff and I do my very best to be thorough but also loving in the delivery and interactions here.

Pure Water Window Cleaning
1 week ago

Beautiful belt drive.... Jealous!

1 week ago

It's a really nice setup, neat to see a folding bike with nicer parts that rides more like a full sized ebike :D