Haibike SDURO AllMtn 6.0 Review

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Haibike Sduro Allmtn 6 0 Schwalbe Nobby Nic 27 5
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Haibike Sduro Allmtn 6 0 Magura Mt5 Hydraulic Disc Brakes
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  • A trail worthy, full suspension electric mountain bike with stiff lightweight frame construction, optimized suspension and a tightly integrated mid-drive motor from Yamaha
  • Upgraded 500 watt hour battery pack delivers 60+ miles on medium assist, powerful hydraulic disc brakes with 203/180 mm rotors and four piston calipers are easy to use and very smooth
  • Simple remote button pad makes interacting with the control comfortable and intuitive, removable backlit display, integrated micro-usb port, internally routed cables, remote seat post dropper
  • The charger is large and heavy, I'm not a huge fan of the way it connects given the proximity to crank arms and locking feature (which could tip the bike or get bent easier), more limited RPM range on the motor

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SDURO AllMtn 6.0



Body Position:


Suggested Use:

Trail, Mountain

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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2 Year Motor and Battery, 5 Year Frame


United States, Europe

Model Year:


Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

52 lbs (23.58 kg)

Battery Weight:

6.7 lbs (3.03 kg)

Motor Weight:

7.6 lbs (3.44 kg)

Frame Material:

Hydroformed Aluminum Alloy 6061

Frame Sizes:

15.75 in (40 cm)17.32 in (43.99 cm)18.9 in (48 cm)20.47 in (51.99 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

32" Standover Height

Frame Types:


Frame Colors:

Anthracite with Yellow Accents

Frame Fork Details:

RockShox Yari Air Suspension with Motion Control Damper, Rebound Adjust, Compression and 150 mm Travel, Boost 110 / 15 mm Thru Axle with Quick Release

Frame Rear Details:

RockShox Monarch RT DebonAir Shock with Compression and Rebound Clicker, Boost 148 / 12 mm Thru Axle with Quick Release

Gearing Details:

20 Speed 2x10 Shimano Deore XT Shadow Plus with One Way Clutch, 11-36T

Shifter Details:

Shimano Deore DYNASYS Triggers on Left and Right


175 mm FSA Cranks, FSA X-10 Chainring, 32/44T


XLC Freeride, Plastic Platform with Alloy Pins


FSA No. 57, A-Head, Semi-Integrated, Tapered


Xduro Aluminium, A-Head, 12° Angle, 70 mm Length, Three 10 mm Stackers


SDURO Lowriser Aluminum, 740 mm Length

Brake Details:

Magura MT5 Hydraulic Disc with 203 mm Rotor in Front and 180 mm Rotor in Back, Magura MT-5 Levers with Adjustable Reach, Quad Piston Calipers


XLC Ergo Sport Body Optimized, Rubber, Lock On


Selle Royal Sirio

Seat Post:

XLC Pro, 150 mm Remote Drop, Aluminum Alloy

Seat Post Length:

300 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

31.6 mm


Alexrims, Alloy-Double Wall, MD40, 32 Hole, Non-Taped


Stainless Steel 14G, Black

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Nobby Nic, 27.5" x 3"

Wheel Sizes:

27.5 in (69.85cm)

Tire Details:

Foldable, EVO, Tubeless Easy, Snakeskin Puncture Protection, Trail Star 3, 15-35 PSI

Tube Details:

Presta, Non Tubeless Valves


Neoprene Slap Guard


Locking Removable Battery Pack, 2.2 lb 4 Amp Charger, Quick Release Wheels and Seat Tube, Cable Inlets, Replaceable Plastic Skid Plate, Gravity Casting Motor Mount Interface with CNC Milled Connection and Bearing Seat Points, Zero Cadence Assist

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:


Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

250 watts

Motor Peak Output:

500 watts

Motor Torque:

80 Newton meters

Battery Brand:


Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

13.6 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

489.6 wh

Battery Chemistry:


Charge Time:

4.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

60 miles (97 km)

Estimated Max Range:

120 miles (193 km)

Display Type:

Yamaha, Removable, Backlit LCD Console


Trip Distance, Total Distance, Current Time, Trip Time, Maximum Speed, Average Speed, Current Speed, Charge Level (10 Bars), Range, Cadence, Assist Level (Off, Eco+, Eco, Std, High)

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad with 5 Volt Micro USB Port

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Wheel Speed, Pedal Torque, Pedal Cadence, Eco+: 50%, Eco: 100%, Std: 180%, High: 280%)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

The SDURO AllMtn 6.0 is a near top of the line model from Haibike running a Yamaha mid-drive motor and upgraded 500 watt hour battery pack… That’s a 25% capacity increase from some of the lower-end models and prior year equipment. What I usually notice first about Haibikes is their beautiful purpose-built frames with angular tubing. The rear swing arm consists of four bars, orienting travel vertically and interfering less with braking action. You get light weight air suspension from RockShox, front and rear, with a Diamond Light Coating (DLC) meant to optimize slide and reduce stiction on the fork. Both wheels are connected with thru-axles for strength and stiffness and the hubs are slightly wider, featuring Boost Technology. This is one of many new e-mountain bikes with plus sized tires… 27.5″ x 3″ and that’s designed to improve traction given the heavier build of the bike at ~52 lbs and efficiency of electric assist helping to overcome drag. Schwalbe Nobby Nic tires come tubeless ready but apparently the rim has to be taped and a new stem added to actually run this way. I worked with a friend, Marc Johnson, of ReCycles in Irvine California for this review. He owns this model personally and was able to dig into some of the details with me on camera. I love how integrated the motor and battery are, without being built into the frame. This allows for quicker removal and less expensive replacement while also making them forward compatible from the smaller pack size. You don’t get the large open triangle that some other models from Specialized and Bulls are offering but the price tag here is lower. With four frame sizes to choose from, a wide dealer network worldwide and a control system that is easy to use and fairly advanced (integrated Micro USB port, soothing backlight, removable screen) I’m a fan. The only consideration is a slower cadence operation compared with Bosch. It’s great for ascending and offers plenty of torque. You can set multiple cogs up front (this has a 20 speed drivetrain) and I like how compact and protected it all is with a replaceable plastic shield at the bottom bracket… Just note that it doesn’t have a shift detection controller so you’ll want to change gears thoughtfully to reduce stress on the chain, scraping on the rear cogs and bending on the derailleurs.

Driving the bike is a 250 watt nominally rated, 500 watt peak, 80 Newton meter motor from Yamaha. It’s one of the quieter mid-drive systems I’ve tried and it’s certainly powerful. Using a range of sensors including rear wheel speed, pedal cadence and pedal torque, it responds naturally. Yamaha advertises a “zero cadence” feature meant to excite mountain bikers and it certainly starts fast… but to me it’s on par with Bosch. The material advantage to me is a near $1,000 price difference between most competing models. Marc argued with me on this point defending zero cadence and I welcome you to chime in if you’ve tested both. It certainly works well and is one of the leading systems on the market today.

Powering the motor and display system is a Lithium-ion battery pack that connects mid-frame on top of the downtube. Unlike Bosch and most others, it slides in from the side allowing for a more sloped top-tube and lower stand-over height. I like this design and appreciate the plastic loop at the top for carrying. You can charge the pack on or off the frame and removing it shaves 6.7 lbs making the bike easier to lift, service and transport. Both wheels also offer quick release and the display panel is removable. I love that… So the battery looks exactly like the smaller 400 watt hour pack from years past and charges relatively fast with the included 4 Amp charger. I do feel that this charger is larger and heavier than necessary, at least compared to other chargers on the market today. You get plenty of range with the 500 watt hour battery pack (between 60 and 120 miles depending on assist level, terrain, rider weight etc.) so hopefully you don’t have to carry the charger with you in a backpack… and you probably will need a backpack given the lack of bottle cage bosses on the bike. This is a fairly common occurance with ebikes and you could add a saddle rail adapter to solve it. Note the quality saddle and decent seat post dropper that come stock. Even the pedals are decent considering many high-end bicycles forego them altogether. My final gripe with the battery and charger has to do with how they connect. The charging port is a little circle and the charging cord ends with a circular male plug that inserts into place. Sure, you want a secure connection for charging but what if you trip over the cable or the bike tips or the pedals get bumped and spin into the plug?! Bad news hombre. Some other systems use the magnetic EnergyBus standard that just pops out, possibly not even tipping your bike. I wish Yamaha would adopt a solution like this.

Operating this electric bike is fairly simple. Once the battery is charged and clicked onto the frame (I believe you have to physically turn the key to lock it on vs. an automatic click) the display can be powered on with a press on at the remote button pad. I love how easy this pad is to reach, how it only has four buttons on top and that it appears to be well sealed against water and mud. Marc echoed this sentiment stating that he’d learned how to use it without looking in just a few short rides. It’s nice to have controls within reach that aren’t confusing when you’re riding in off-road conditions. Between the locking grips, the two-finger hydraulic disc brakes and the large LCD display panel… it’s very usable. And that display panel is well laid out. I like that it offers a 10-bar battery infographic and battery percentage readout! You also get a range estimator that changes dynamically as you arrow up or down between the four assist levels. These are features that only the high-end ebikes offer today. The other readouts on the display have to do with trip stats and can be cycled through using the S button below the power button. Note how the handle bar rises up and the stem is negative angle so you end up with a simulated flat bar but get the protection of the grips and metal tubing in the event of a bail. This was designed to protect the nice large display.

My understanding is that an All Mountain bike should be capable of downhill riding but still function on rolling hills and climbing. You get plenty of suspension adjustability here and a geometry that isn’t set too far back. The bike handles well and feels nice over the bumps but isn’t so specialized that you couldn’t tool around town with it. I’m a huge fan of full suspension given the distance and speed that ebikes empower their riders with and usually that comes with a much higher price tag. While the SDURO line can still be expensive and the 6.0 is higher in the range, you get a lot of premium hardware for under $5k. The warranty is 2 year comprehensive with 5 on the frame and even non-electric bike shops should be comfortable servicing it. Just remember to shift consciously at first and you’ll get the hang of the motor. Be careful with the battery pack and larger display and bring your CamelBak or other accessory bag. Big thanks to Marc and Haibike for partnering with me on this review, it’s always great to have an expert on-hand and his drone footage was a neat addition to the video towards the end :)


  • Plus sized tires (those over 2.8″ wide) have caught on with electric mountain bikes because they can run at lower PSI, provide better traction and cushion and reduce deflection and slipping on rocky surfaces, the SDURO ALLMTN 6.0 uses higher quality Schwalbe tires that are 3″ wide
  • Available in four frame sizes, this electric bike offers higher performance and fit, I love how the top tube is angled down for lower stand over height (the battery slides out sideways to help achieve this
  • Excellent weight distribution with both the motor and battery mounted towards the center of the frame and kept low
  • The motor is powerful and responsive offering smooth starts and stops (measuring pedal cadence and torque to activate as well as rear wheel speed), you get up to 80 Nm of torque which makes it an excellent climber if you shift gears appropriately
  • Beautiful paint and graphics… Haibike has long been a favorite of mine because they just look cool and professional, notice the fork and saddle are tied in, non-ebikers seem more interested because it looks legit
  • Higher-end lightweight air suspension front and rear offers a ton of travel so you can handle a bit of downhill and use it as a true all mountain electric bike, the four-bar suspension uses 15 mm axles for strength and stiffness and the tubing is boxed and extra stiff without adding much weight
  • The battery can be charged on or off the bike frame and is easy to remove (though it does not rattle or feel loose when mounted to the frame), it weighs about 6.7 lbs so taking it off could make mounting the bike to car racks safer and easier (more space in the triangle), it offers excellent range now upgraded to ~500 watt hours vs. the older 400 wh (which are still compatible with the interface so you could use them if you already own a Haibike)
  • The Yamaha display system is a real standout to me, this is their upgraded model with a larger LCD which is removable and you also get a remote button pad which is easy to reach while riding and it has a Micro USB port built in
  • I’m a big fan of dropper seat posts and love that the ALLMTN Plus comes with one that is preinstalled which Marc was a fan of… he’s more of a mountain biker than me and approved of the component chosen
  • Powerful hydraulic disc brakes from Magura offer the precise, smooth stopping power required for true off-road riding, note the four piston calipers and adjustable reach two-finger levers
  • Sturdy thru-axles with wider hubs using Boost Technology and quick release for easy trail maintenance and quick compact transportability, one big advantage of a mid-drive is that the drivetrain itself is more traditional and easy to work with for regular bike shops
  • The Yamaha motor produces less noise than Bosch and Impulse 3.0 in my opinion, it’s a bit less noticeable (especially when riding on a dirt trail where the tires are already making noise just from rolling)
  • The pedals you get with this Haibike aren’t half bad… I prefer the wide platform with metal pins to smaller cages which seem to get bent, the included pedals work great for test rides
  • The cockpit is well thought out, notice the negative angle stem and low-rise bars meant to approximate a flat bar while protecting the display panel in the event of a crash
  • Rather than showing your battery percentage by default, the Yamaha display uses little bars on an info-graphic but I love that they have 10 bars (for 10% steps) vs. many other bikes that show just 5 or 6, if you flip through the readouts you can also get percentage which is fantastic but that same display area can be used for odometer, trip distance etc. so I love that you have a choice
  • You can run 29ers on this ebike if you want, the standard plus sized tire in 27.5 endes up being a similar diameter but wider than some might prefer… so you can swap them out and they should fit the frame
  • Despite having a 25% larger battery capacity, the overall weight of the bike hasn’t gone up much, the battery only increased by 0.2 lbs based on my own measurements
  • The fork comes with air tokens that allow you to reduce bottoming out without raising the air pressure beyond a desired performance level, the stanchions also have a hardened DLC (diamond light coating) for smooth slick performance, it reduces stiction
  • Shadow Plus upgrade on the rear Shimano Deore XT derailleur is a one way clutch lever (that you physically click back or forward) that tightens the spring to reduce chain bounce and slap, it changes how shifting feels so it’s neat that you get the option to click it on or leave the chain looser for easier shifting


  • I like to complain about the more limited RPM output of Yamaha’s mid-drive motor but it works very well for climbing on mountain terrain, I was able to pedal slower while maintaining balance and get a lot of torque support
  • Unlike the Bosch and Impulse drive systems, the Yamaha mid-drive doesn’t offer shift sensing which could lead to chain and sprocket mashing (especially with two derailleurs here), learn to shift as the motor cuts out… when you stop pedaling momentarily
  • The battery charger seems unnecessarily large and bulky compared with some of the other options out there, I wish Yamaha would consider the magnetic EnergyBus port vs. their plug, which pushes in, in and could get bent or knock the bike over if tripped on, the left crank arm passes it closely which makes it vulnerable
  • Haibikes tend to be more expensive and are frequently out of stock in popular sizes, we were looking at the 6.0 here even though Marc wanted to buy the 6.5 originally… it was out of stock, I feel like they spread the line thin with so many options which can be disappointing if you visit a dealer and fall in love with a specific model or feature set
  • While it’s neat to have 20 gear combinations, I don’t change the front very often and have become a fan of the lighter, less complex 1×11 setups… especially given the non shift sensing mid-drive motor systems
  • I like how smooth the motor winds down as you stop pedaling but it isn’t as instantaneous as some other systems, notice how it continues rotating a bit during the ride test in the video review above
  • Despite being a more athletic-oriented sporty electric bike, there are no bosses for adding a water bottle, you’ll probably need a hip pack or hydration backpack. Marc teased me that this can protect your back if you fall off the bike… but he didn’t realize that I never fall :P
  • Even though the tires are tubeless ready, they don’t have liners or stems that will work for this, consider having your shop tape the rims and help get them tubeless for lower PSI and lower weight performance like Marc did for his bike in this review
  • I couldn’t figure out how to turn off backlighting on the display panel, I think it’s an always-on design which could be a little distracting at night if you prefer all-dark and stealth riding
  • It seems like walk mode is disabled on the Yamaha system still, at least for the USA, perhaps someone can chime in and correct me if not? I’ve seen other brands like Bosch enable it starting in 2017


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Alex Aharonov
1 year ago

Love the drone footage. what Drone did you use?

1 year ago

I’m curious what you mean by “twisting to connect charger” ? I have a 2016 Sduro Trekking and the plug goes straight in with arrows aligned. I think twisting would damage it.

1 year ago

I may be mistaken Joe, we didn’t have the charger with us and it’s possible I was confusing the push-in connector from Easy Motion which has the twist wings on it to the one for Yamaha. Thanks for chiming in, I will edit my feedback here :)

1 year ago

Never thought to ask before, but can this Yamaha (and bosch) be ridden as e-bikes without their displays attached? I am thinking of the night-time riding lit display situation. (Thank you for your reporting about rpm-range–I expect it may be hard for a new buyer to evaluate what’s better for them when the experience is all new and unfamiliar).

10 months ago

Shaggy, these bikes cannot be ridden electronically without the display. Anything happens to it, it can always be replaced, but it’s generally a good idea to take it with you if you lock the bike up and to take it off the bike when transporting (actually both companies recommend removing for transport).

I’ve loved this bike every time I’ve ridden it. Perfect for trail riding and more serious downhill rides. We’ve partnered with Haibike for a number of years now, and this is truly one of my favorite Sduro AllMtns yet. Check it out at San Diego Fly Rides if you’re interested!

10 months ago

Thanks for the clarification about the display Scott! You can reply directly to users and it will message them. It appears this comment was made in the general “reply all” field. Feel free to copy/paste and I’ll delete this older comment if you’d like :)


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bob armani
17 hours ago

Zoli-So in your opinion, if you do not have the latest and greatest version of Bluetooth on your smartphone, you will not get the best performance from COBI?
My question: If you do not have a newer smartphone, can you just simply download the latest Bluetooth version on an older smartphone. (ie: I have a Motorola Moto E.) So in theory, this may very well explain why some owners of the Urban have connectivity issues and others do not??

1 day ago

Have a 2016 FullSeven Xduro RC and it came with Rock Shox 120mm travel Recon solo air forks. They were OK, but nothing like the Pikes on my Bulls. Also liked the slacker 66 degree head angle on the Bulls as apposed to the 69 degrees on the RC. I found a great deal on a new 160mm travel Lyrik but wondered if installing the longer travel forks on the 120mm travel frame would mess up the geometry. Turns out it totally improved the handling far more than even hoped! Don't notice the higher BB (maybe 20mm), but it gave me about 1 degree slacker head angle and just makes the bike so much better for the rocky terrain I ride. Before the upgrade I preferred my Brose powered Bulls, but now with the new fork and the e-Mtb mode software upgrade it's a total toss up!

I'm wondering if the geometry of this series of Haibike frames are pretty much the same. A buddy has the same year Sduro AMT with 150mm front and rear suspension and it has a 68 head angle which is the same as I now have.

1 day ago

Yup, I agree about the 750 WH battery. I’ve bought a second Yamaha battery so I can tour a bit more. The only issue with the second battery is that it’s not secured to the bike. I store it in a trunk bag. That means I can’t go shopping with it. I do everything with my bike as I live in a neighborhood which allows it. But I think that leaving an unlocked battery would be pushing it a bit.

I will probably keep the bike for a year or two more. It was a good deal and that’s not easy to find here. I really like the Stromer ST1x but it’s heavy and I have to carry the bike up a flight of stairs. The Haibike Trekking is very practical in that sense. I also like that it has quick release wheels. A flat is quickly fixed.

Ravi Kempaiah
2 days ago

Lots of useful info.
I enjoy pedaling hard compared to spinning and I have always enjoyed Brose and Yamaha for that reason although I ride the Bosch trekking bike. Bosch Trekking S Rx has been great but I do wish it had more range. I wish this package had Supernova M99 lights and some higher volume tires.

This summer, I am switching to Big Ben tires and better fenders. Surprisingly, Magura brakes have been top notch on both Haibike and Stromer. Always reliable stopping power at my disposal and have been very happy with that.

If only there was a S-pedelec with 750Whr battery, <50lbs weight, Supernova M99 lights, Magura MT5 and 27.5" high volume tires.... Actually, I am thinking of getting the Trekking 9.0 Bosch bike and unlock it....

2 days ago

Yes, this place

2 days ago

My error! My bad: Long ago I removed the stickers from my CCS front fork for a cleaner look.

I was presuming a model name by looking at the Suntour pages. Did not notice that the NCX-E is an air fork. Mine is definitely spring, with damping on the other side.

Thank you Nova Haibike and Thank you Chris Nolte for all the help and wisdom.

I now know to aim for an NCX-E when I replace the fork.

2 days ago

Haibike FullSeven S rx Xduro.

2 days ago

I'm a bike enthusiast and also a software developer so for me COBI's opensource API is a great test-ground for ideas. In deed I'm currently making a couple of customized 'Modules' for my rides via COBI API.

I think the issues that were experienced early 2016/17 was regarding Bluetooth connectivity dropouts. I have the a latest Android phone with Bluetooth version 4.2 and its is very fast without lagtime. So yes u will need latest iPhone or Android to be sure u don't experience lagtime etc.

As a footnote even without carrying your smartphone, your COBI.bike can still function as a front and rear light and you can still switch through the different modes of the AmbiSense Light System. Also, the electronic bell is still functioning. If you own an eBike you can choose the motor support levels using the thumb controller.
Looking at COBI development.docs the system is made to fall back to no GPS signals etc. So the bike should not come to a grinding halt if GPS etc. is not avail.

Why would Haibike risk destroying their reputation selling off a bunch of troublesome bikes to make a few bucks?! not...and the dealers hate low margin SALE bikes so they will always try to up-sell to their highest margin sales, just to keep in mind.

Just my 2cents..

2 days ago

I thought I would open this thread to go through all the flaws people see with the Trekking models. There are a lot of different variants, but a lot of these bikes share common parts. Just state your model and what you think Haibike (or its suppliers) could have done better. The idea isn’t to bash the bikes but to give a list of longterm ownership problems (and any workarounds), and maybe a couple of positives too.

I have the Trekking Sduro S 6.0 2017 which is the Yamaha 45km/h version available in the EU only. All in all it’s not a bad bike, but if Haibike had chosen slightly higher quality parts for certain key accessories, they could have built a better bike while maintaining roughly the same price. Yamaha and Magura should have paid a lot more attention to details.

Full specs are here:


A short list of issues:

[*]The bike comes with flimsy SKS chromoplastics fenders. The rear fender works as advertised, but the front one wobbles and makes an absolutely horrible noise.
[*]The Magura MT4 brakes progressively leak. A mechanic where I bought the bike said they’ve sold a lot of models with MT4 brakes and this is quite common. Each time you change the pads a little bit of liquid leaks out when you press apart the pistons. So you have to be ever so careful doing this.
[*]The Yamaha plastic remote is fixed onto the handlebars by two screws which bite into its casing. The remote constantly swivels out of place, which is very annoying. You cannot use WALK mode because of this. I've put a plastic band under the remote which only half solves the problem.
[*]The status button on the battery progressively regresses and becomes more and more difficult to use with time.
[*]The battery rattles, which can actually be eliminated by using a neoprene sleeve. For the summer you can use a cutout sleeve.
[*]The assist levels are not evenly spaced out on this bike. ECO+ gives a ridiculously low amount of assist, and then there’s normal ECO which is fine. But between ECO and Standard mode there is a huge gap. It’s really difficult to tour around in ECO mode on this bike because it takes a lot of strength. That impacts range a lot. I typically get 35-40 kilometers on a full charge (300 meter vertical delta, 95 kilo rider).
[*]The ride is bumpy. People have often placed the blame on the Suntour SR, which only has 63mm of travel. That’s true, but it’s only part of the problem. The narrow 700x38 tires are also part of the problem. And then there’s the frame. It’s so stiff that the rear bounces off each and every bump. The smaller the frame, the bumpier the ride… I have a 52 which is a size S. Guess that doesn’t help.

Some positives:

[*]The rack is often critiqued (Standwell Carrymore), but is actually one of the best parts of the bike according to me. It adapts to almost anything and is fairly sturdy.
[*]Brake lights are a nice addition. They're made by Busch & Müller (Toplight Line E Brake).
[*]Zero Cadence is really helpful in traffic.
[*]The bike climbs beautifully compared to some other 45km/h mid-drives. It’s not the fastest, but you can bet you’ll make it to the top of the hill each and every time. When things start to get tough, those 80Nm are there and you can feel them.
[*]Rims are top notch. These things stay true no matter what. (Rodi Black Rock Disc).
[*]Chain and drivetrain are built to last. Roughly 8000 kilometers and still good.
[*]Lights are always on, which annoyed me at first. But it’s a good safety feature.
[*]Mirror is tucked under the handlebars. Good job here too.
[*]The kickstand auto-retracts when sold, but if you remove a spring it behaves like a normal kickstand. Good job by the supplier on helping the user to get around the silly regulations here. It's a Pletscher Comp ARA.

The unscrutables:

[*]The Yamaha PW drive is amongst the things that are almost impossible to describe as good or bad. It’s just ‘different’. The drive likes torque input from the rider. That means not spinning too fast and putting a fair amount of pressure on the pedals. So you will often need to be in quite a high gear to get the best out of it. I would qualify the drive as being deceptively powerful. If you’re in those higher gears, and put in the effort, you can get a fair amount of power from this drive. If you want to go fast but don’t have strong knees and thighs, and want to spin instead of mash, this definitely isn’t the drive for you. People have said that the assist being limited to lower cadences (under 90-92) is a ‘bad thing’, but you quickly get accustomed to it.

2 days ago

Thank you, Chris. It is a spring shock, though, and has hydraulic damping. It is a good fork and I have adjusted the spring for excellent results.

I don't know diddly about these things and so I am thankful that you and Nova Haibike helped so fast!

OK, am understanding better. Two questions more, please, for Chris Nolte and Nova Haibike:

[*]why do street forks mostly have about 60mm travel and not double that amount?

EDIT: I looked up tapered steerer and learned why a straight headtube cannot be adapted to a tapered steerer:

I guess I will stick with what I have unless there is an air version available. As my present fork survived a car crashing into the bike, I want to replace it soon, anyway. It did take a hit; the fork is only scuffed up looking, but the headtube twisted the frame slightly. I will replace the entire bike eventually. For now, it is repaired and running and I wanted to learn if there are better suspension fork options. Perhaps not after all.

Thanks for any further thoughts.

3 days ago

Mi pedelec es Haibike trekking 5.0

12 months ago

You should definitely go with 52cm frame.

12 months ago

Hey guys,

I am about to pull the trigger on a Haibike Sduro AllMtn 6.0. My only concern now is choosing the right frame size. I am 6ft3 or 193 cm tall and my inside leg measurement is 34" or 85 cm. What frame size would you choose, the 19"/48 cm or the 21"/52 cm? The tyre size is 27.5".

Picture is just for attention. :)

Joe Remi
12 months ago

I'm going to throw a wrench into this by saying both bikes you're looking at are aimed at the riding you'll do the least, if at all. I have an Sduro Trekking because, although I don't commute, I like to go on long day pavement rides with all the stuff I need. Fenders, a rack and lights covers all the bases, which would be even more important if I was counting on the bike to get me to work every day.

It has a suspension fork and wide 29er tires. Although not ideal for serious trail riding, I have ridden a bit of singletrack on it. It was kinda sketchy, but hopping off and dropping air pressure would have helped (I didn't bother). Swapping the tires for something a little nobbier would also be a benefit.

Just something to think about while you're bike shopping.

12 months ago

Hey everybody,

I need some advice and help choosing the right bike for me. I am going to use my new e-bike as my daily commuter to and from work, around 15 miles a day in total. I might also use the bike for some terrain driving during the weekends, but dont know how much that is going to be at this moment. I am a big guy around 230 lbs and 6ft3.

I have narrowed my choices down to two bikes from Haibike. Both with the Yamaha drive train and with 500 watt batteries.

First is the Haibike Sduro HardNine 5.5 (first picture), the second one is the Haibike Sduro AllMtn 6.0. The price difference between the two bikes is around 1000 usd, where I live.

My question is, is it overkill to spend an additional 1000 usd to get the full suspension, when I will mostly be riding the bike on tarmac, to and from work?

How much better is the riding comfort/experience with the full suspension vs. front suspension only?

Which bike would you choose of the two suggested? The price is about 3000 usd for the HardNine and 4000 usd. for the AllMtn.

Cess Outdoors
3 months ago

You got to have mudguards with this bike with such sensitive parts they are a must.

Jonathan Brazeau
5 months ago

Gentleman, fun stuff, thanks for the in-depth review.... just went to try a demo e-bike similar to this at a local shop and I'm sold on the technology, best of all worlds.... I didn't bother asking the rep this question at the time but what is the warranty situation with these news bikes? Also, what is your unbiased opinion on Shimano steps vs. Yamaha motors..

5 months ago

Been watching this particular video a few times along with other of your Haibike reviews as I'm in the market for an ebike. Kept coming back to this one cause the other guy's riding style is similar to mine so I can relate to him liking this model. Found a nice deal at a somewhat local shop for around $3700 + tax. Really looking forward to riding it.

5 months ago

Wheelworld Culver City has it for 3700

Marc Diedrichs
7 months ago

Bought it new in Germany for 3400€. Amazing bike

Adam Heath
7 months ago

how and where can I get the tune for the removal of the speed limiter

9 months ago

I have this amazing bike as well, I love it. The efficiency is infinitely better than my bbshd, not the same power or speed, but the range is quadruple.

Alexi Thunderbird
10 months ago

I'm a complete noob and was considering a dual sport motor bike. is this good for long distances? how about going up steep Hills? I noticed in another video I just watched the guy demonstrating had trouble getting up a hill.

Jeroen de Smit
10 months ago

Are you going to review the Haibike Sduro Hardseven 7.0 with the Yamaha PW-X motor anytime soon?
Next month I'm going to buy my Haibike but I can't choose between these bikes.

Jeroen de Smit
10 months ago

Can't stop watching this movie, awesome bike, awesome footage and all the information needed.

11 months ago


I got my sduro allmtn 6 today!

You always told, that the charger of the yamaha system is huge, but i don't know maybe yamaha reacted to this issue and mine is smaller and lighter than the bosch charger! :D

John Lambert
11 months ago

Great review as always Court! How would something like this compare to a Specialized Turbo Levo? I can only presume Specialized use higher quality components to justify the higher price but moreso how would the performance difference be?

12 months ago

what about the haibike boss lady stepping down and quitting her baby...

Dave Berg
12 months ago

How tall is the dude riding the bike ? He is riding a L-size, which is good for people around what hight ?
Where I live it´s not easy to try out Haibikes so i would like to know what size to aim for.....

T Lust
1 year ago

I got my Haibike ♥️it!

Wayne Rhea
1 year ago

hey I was looking to get a bike for someone thing is they are about 250 pounds so I need a bike that can take hills and trails while still getting good range price isn't a problem unless it's over 5k any suggestions.

1 year ago

Hi Wayne, I would recommend the Easy Motion Atom Lynx 4.8 because of the highest motor torque available in the industry at 90nm. This will get you up ANY mountain bike trail & work excellent for a 250lb rider. http://www.emotionbikesusa.com/en/bicycles/ebikes/atom-lynx-4-8-27-5-pro-ur907-us.html

Gaj B
1 year ago

I hate Solar Panels, all they ever do is glare into my eyes while I'm walking up the fields with my Dog. I cannot even enjoy that any more because everyone has them on their houses.... either make them anti glare or get rid of them.

Nelson Mayingi
1 year ago

the battery is 500 W just like a Yukon or a radrover electric bike.What makes this go 60+ miles while the voltbike or radpower only goes up to 40 miles?Please,explain!

1 year ago

Fantastic video to enjoy, well done guys...

Ed Meyer
1 year ago

I have this bike. It rocks!
just installed the speed box 2 chip, its pushing a little over 30mph.

Cess Outdoors
3 months ago

Did you installed this yourself you happy with the mod?

1 year ago

Brilliant bike - great review and amazing drone footage which really does show off the elevation.