BULLS Cross Lite E Step-Thru Review

Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Electric Bike Review
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Bosch Performance Line Cx Motor With Skid Plate
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Bosch Powerpack 500 Battery
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Ergonomic Grips Bosch Intuvia Display Panel
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Fuxon Aimable Led Headlight
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Suntour Cr Nxc Lite Air Fork
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Shimano Deore Xt Shadow Plus 11 Speed
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru I Rack With Integrated Backlight
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Bosch 4 Amp Charger
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Electric Bike Review
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Bosch Performance Line Cx Motor With Skid Plate
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Bosch Powerpack 500 Battery
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Ergonomic Grips Bosch Intuvia Display Panel
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Fuxon Aimable Led Headlight
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Suntour Cr Nxc Lite Air Fork
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Shimano Deore Xt Shadow Plus 11 Speed
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru I Rack With Integrated Backlight
Bulls Cross Lite E Step Thru Bosch 4 Amp Charger

Summary

  • An active, sporty looking, commuter style electric bike with low standover height, available in three frame sizes to improve fit and comfort
  • High-end drivetrain and motor systems, you get eleven gears with a tough mountain bike level derailleur and the high-torque Bosch mid-drive
  • Integrated led lights, reflective tire stripes, rugged alloy fenders, a plastic chain cover, and an integrated rear rack provide great utility and don't rattle
  • A bit pricier than the old Cross Lite E, the battery isn't as hidden as some of the Brose powered Bulls models but is easier to remove for charging and storage

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Introduction

Make:

BULLS

Model:

Cross Lite E Step-Thru

Price:

$4,099

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Urban, Commuting, Touring

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

2 Years Motor and Battery, 5 Years Frame

Availability:

Europe, Canada, United States, Australia, New Zealand

Model Year:

20172018

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

49.2 lbs (22.31 kg)

Battery Weight:

5.7 lbs (2.58 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.8 lbs (3.99 kg)

Frame Material:

7005 Aluminium

Frame Sizes:

17.72 in (45 cm)19.69 in (50.01 cm)20.87 in (53 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

Small 45 cm: 18" Seat Tube, 21" Reach, 26" Stand Over Height, 72" Length

Frame Types:

Step-Thru

Frame Colors:

Satin Black with Metallic Bronze Accents

Frame Fork Details:

SR Suntour CR NCX Lite Air Suspension, 60 mm Travel, Lockout, 9 mm Skewer with Quick Release

Frame Rear Details:

9 mm Skewer with Quick Release

Attachment Points:

Rear Rack Bosses, Fender Bosses, Bottle Cage Bosses

Gearing Details:

11 Speed 1x11 Shimano Deore XT Shadow Plus RD-M8000-GS Derailleur, Shimano CS-M7000-11 11-42 Tooth Cassette

Shifter Details:

Shimano Deore SL-M8000-BI Triggers on Right

Cranks:

SR Suntour Alloy Crank Arms, 170 mm Length, 18T Chainring, Plastic Chain Cover

Pedals:

Wellgo C128DU Alloy Platform, Cage Style

Headset:

Tapered 1-1/8" to 1-1/2"

Stem:

Bulls 7050 Aluminum Alloy, 90 mm Length, One 10 mm Spacer, One 5 mm Spacer

Handlebar:

Bulls Low Rise Aluminum, 24.5" Length

Brake Details:

Shimano BR-M447 Hydraulic Disc with 180 mm Front Rotor, 160 mm Rear Rotor, Shimano Two-Finger Levers with Adjustable Reach

Grips:

Rubber Ergonomic with Locking Screw

Saddle:

Selle Royale Shadow+

Seat Post:

Bulls 6061 Aluminum Alloy

Seat Post Length:

270 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

31.6 mm

Rims:

Bulls XC21, Double Wall, 822x21c, 36 Hole

Spokes:

14G Front 13G Rear, Stainless Steel, Black

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Marathon Racer, 700 x 38c (28" x 1.5")

Wheel Sizes:

28 in (71.12cm)

Tire Details:

55 to 85 PSI, Performance Line RaceGuard, LiteSkin Reflective Sidewall Stripes

Tube Details:

Presta Valve

Accessories:

Aluminum Alloy Fenders, i-RACK Rear Carry Rack with Pannier Blockers and Spring Latch (25 kg Max Weight), Integrated Fuxon K1102, LED Headlight, Rack-Integrated LED Backlight, Flick Bell, Sticker Slap Guard on Right Chain Stay, Hebie Adjustable Kickstand

Other:

Locking Removable Battery Pack, 1.7 lb 4 Amp Charger

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bosch Performance Line CX

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

250 watts

Motor Peak Output:

530 watts

Motor Torque:

75 Newton meters

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

13.4 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

482.4 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

4 hours

Estimated Min Range:

30 miles (48 km)

Estimated Max Range:

85 miles (137 km)

Display Type:

Bosch Intuvia, Removable, Adjustable Angle, Grayscale, Backlit LCD

Readouts:

Speed, Assist Level (Eco, Tour, Sport, Turbo), Battery Level (1-5), Odometer, Trip Distance, Estimated Range, Clock, Max Speed, Average Speed, Trip Time, Shift Assist Recommendation

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad with Tactile Feedback on Left, 5 Volt 500 mA Micro USB Port on Display

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Measures Wheel Speed, Pedal Cadence and Pedal Torque, Power Output Relative to Pedal Input: Eco 50% 40 Nm, Tour 120% 50 Nm, Sport 210% 60 Nm, Turbo 300% 75 Nm)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

This is the second generation Cross Lite E model to hit the States from Bulls, a widely respected European brand launched in 2010. Now, the step-thru design makes it easier to mount and stand over for people with short legs and I love that they haven’t called it a women’s model… even though that’s likely the target audience. You can get this in a slightly stiffer, high-step in medium and large but the step-thru shown here comes in three sizes with a small 45 cm that I was testing in the photos and videos. As a 5’9″ male, I felt very comfortable on the bike and appreciate the unisex coloring, satin black with minimal metallic bronze accents. The handlebar is bent up slightly and the stem reaches out at a higher angle to position riders upright, allowing them to spot the road or chat with friends. To me, this e-bike would make an excellent commuting or trekking platform. You get one of the most powerful, highest RPM, most efficient motor systems with an upgraded battery pack, an eleven-speed drivetrain with mountain bike level derailleur, integrated LED lights, alloy fenders, a premium rack, and a mini-pump. The price point is a bit higher than competing models at $4,099 but you get your money’s worth… name brand comfort saddle, ergonomic locking grips, and premium puncture resistant tires are just a few highlights. As a lightweight rider myself, I appreciate how the drive systems have been mounted low and center on the frame and that despite having sturdy fenders, a chain cover, and rear rack… the weight is kept down with an air fork. Almost every other commuter electric bike I have seen with similar specs and the same motor+battery setup weighs in the 52 lb range. Bulls achieved something special with the new Cross Lite E Step-Thru by making it light but still sturdy and versatile. A tapered head tube keeps steering stiff and stable, quick-release wheels are easy to fix if you’re on the road, say bikepacking, and the tubeless ready wheelset could help you shave off even more weight if you decide to convert from stock inner tubes.

Driving the CrossLite E is a Bosch Performance Line XC mid motor. This is the most powerful, high torque, offering from Bosch and I usually see it on mountain ebikes. Instead of a peak 63 Nm output, you get up to 75 Newton meters and that makes for zippy starts, excellent climbing ability, and easier load carrying. The rear rack is rated up to 55 lbs and has pannier blocker side rails, consider Ortleib or Axiom panniers (or other clip-on models) for maximum convenience and water protection. I tend to use a single trunk bag for daily rides into the city and often bring the charger, a set of tools and a mini pump… but this bike already has the pump setup on the rack. A folding lock could also be handy and you can get it keyed to match the battery locking core using the code listed with the ABUS keys because AUBS also makes premium locks. Following on with most of the other European electric bike brands, Bulls has really thought this thing out, opted for the best hardware, and allowed you to adapt appropriately. One final callout on the motor is how nicely it is integrated into the frame tubing bottom bracket area, I love the vented metal skid plate on the bottom and the rubber charge port cover, which stays put and is easier to use than some of the others I’ve seen.

Filling the battery pack is quite simple and fast thanks to the Bosch 4 Amp charger. This can be done with the pack mounted to the back (to reduce drops and save time) or separately. If you do take it off, the battery is easy to carry by hand using the plastic loop at the top. Weighing in at 5.7 lbs, it’s only 0.3 lbs heavier than the older Bosch Powerpack 400 but gives you 25% more capacity to maximize range. Amazingly, both battery sizes fit into the same casing and the mount is backward compatible. If you own an older electric bike that also used Bosch, you can still use that pack… or you can buy a second pack in either 400 or 500 watt hour sizes and stow it in your trunk bag to roughly double range. It’s a great setup but one that doesn’t blend in visually quite as well as the custom Brose batteries found on some other Bulls models. Given that the Cross Lite E Step-Thru is a Class-1 20 mph electric bike, blending in is probably not as much of a concern as it might be for mountain bikers and some Class-3 speed riders. This bike offers the most common and widely accepted performance, pedal assist only. But that’s not to say it isn’t fun to ride. You’re really optimizing range by reducing air resistance at lower speeds and the high torque motor makes those lower speeds feel zippy. On my test rides, I was able to pedal the bike up to 23 mph comfortably, even without motor support. Those eleven gears are easy to click through, the shifting mechanism is crisp and the levers are comfortable. One additional benefit of the motor is how smart it is in sensing when you shift, reducing drivetrain wear and again, maximizing the power that the battery offers so you can go the distance.

Tracking how much battery is left can be a challenge on some entry-level electric bikes with basic battery management and control systems. With the Cross Lite E, you get premium hardware and software that shows you dynamic range estimates. Once you charge and mount the battery, power on the display, and press the i button a few times, you should see a range readout. This displays an estimate for how far the bike can go in the selected level of assist based on the remaining battery level and your ride performance over the past mile or two. Perhaps you’ve got a heavy load or the tirers are low, maybe the wind is blowing against you or the terrain is steep… this range readout becomes a much better indicator than the five-bar battery infographic (also shown on the display and side of the battery pack) and it sets the Bosch system apart from others. The display is removable, just like the battery, for safe storage and reduced weight during transport. I like how large it is, the fact that you can angle it forward or back to reduce glare, and use it as a power source for your own portable electronics. Built into the right edge of the display is a Micro-USB port offering 5 Volts at 500 milliamps which is enough to maintain most smartphones and small portable electronics. Before I finish off with the display, I do want to mention that you can lock it to the mount by using an included set screw. This can be installed at the base of the mount before it is secured to the handle bar. The demo bike I was riding for this review actually had the display locked on and many companies do this before demo events to keep parts from walking off or getting mixed up. The display is backlit, can be switched from metric to standard by holding reset and the i button for a few seconds (to enter settings) and has all of the other information that you might expect (current speed, odometer, assist level, power output, clock, etc.). I appreciate how easy it is to interact with, even without looking down or taking your hands off of the grips. Simply reach over with your left thumb to click plus or minus to increase or decrease power. The same i buton is replicated on the pad, positioned in between the plus and minus, to allow for display menu changes. You get a tactile click signaling a successful change and a noticeable power boost.

The Bulls Cross Lite E Step-Thru is an incredibly capable electric bike, one that I would highly recommend as being reliable and durable. Even though my ride test for this video review was limited in length and distance, I have enough experience with the Bosch motor, Shimano Deore XT Shadow Plus drivetrain, and other hardware in place here to trust it. If you plan to use your electric bicycle like a car, daily, and live in an environment where the fenders and lights will come in handy… the value is there. The seat post was a little short on the model I tested but that may be due to the smaller size (I was on the small, 45 cm frame). All Bosch motors produce a high pitched whirring noise at full power and high RPM but are more capable than their rivals for starting and stopping quickly and supporting high cadence. I tend to pedal at high speed because of a knee injury, it’s more comfortable than low-speed lumbering pedal strokes… and the motor keeps up with me. On this particular ebike, the motor isn’t as loud sounding and I think that’s due in part to the surrounding chain cover. Note that the 18 tooth sprocket on the chainring spins at 2.5 times per every crank arm revolution. This is unique to Bosch and was designed in part to increase chain grab and reduce drops. I have never had a chain fall off on a Bosch ebike and that’s a big deal if you do end up commuting further or taking this thing out onto the open road for some touring. Big thanks to Bulls for partnering with me on this review and inviting me to their headquarters to explore the full 2017 line. I welcome feedback and corrections in the comments but do all of the measurements myself by hand, striving for accuracy :)

Pros:

  • The mid-step frame balances frame stiffness against approachability, it’s a great option for sportier rides and fits people who have shorter inseams, I love that they included bottle cage bosses on the top tube for those who want to add a folding lock or water bottle
  • Because Bulls used ABUS for the locking core and includes the key code, you can get a folding lock to match which will use the same key and reduce clutter
  • At just over 49 lbs, the 2017 version of the Cross Lite E Step-Thru is even lighter than the prior model even though it has a larger battery pack! This is due in part to the higher-specced drivetrain and upgraded air suspension
  • Bosch produces one of my favorite motor, battery, display sets and I love the way Bulls has integrated it into the frame, the motor is tilted up and built into the frame along with the battery which blends in with the black paint
  • Both the battery pack and display panel can be quickly removed when parking to store and charge separately,
    it’s also good to remove the battery when transporting the bike to reduce weight
  • Both wheels offer quick release which makes fixing flats and doing other maintenance easy, also good for transporting the bike if you’ve got a van or station wagon and plan to put it inside
  • The alloy fenders and plastic chain cover keep you dry and clean in varied conditions, they don’t rattle and provide good coverage while blending in with the sporty look
  • Integrated LED lights help you see in dark conditions but also keep you safe, I prefer these to aftermarket lights because they will turn off automatically when you power down the bike and cannot be stolen since they’re wired in
  • Amazingly, the latest Bosch Powerpack 500 battery is only 0.3 lbs heavier than the older Powerpack 400 and yet has the same form factor (the mount is even backwards compatible), I love that the charger is also a fast charger delivering 4 Amps vs. 2 Amps on many competing products
  • The motor senses pedal speed, pedal torque, and rear wheel speed one thousand times per second to deliver fluid assistance, it never feels surprising or out of control
  • The Bosch CX motor offers eMTB mode in Sport level which acts as more of a torque sensor giving low and high power vs. just one limited range, you can basically leave it in this mode for sporty riding and skip the +/- clicking required on other models
  • A premium gel saddle from Selle Royale compliments the air fork and slightly wider road tires to smooth out the ride and keep you comfortable, for those who want even more support, consider a 31.6 mm seat post suspension like this
  • The drivetrain is overkill but a welcome addition for heavy commuting, you get 11 gears and a durable mountain bike level derailleur with one-way clutch to reduce chain bounce and rattling in rough conditions
  • Large hydraulic disc brakes provide smooth, powerful stops, the levers offer adjustable reach and only require one or two fingers to actuate
  • Nice adjustable kickstand and basic flick bell for added utility when commuting, I also like the locking ergonomic grips
  • The trigger shifting mechanism is upgraded, the paddles feel solid and the tiny one (used to shift into higher harder gears) can be pushed or pulled which allows for different hand positions
  • The Bosch drive system allows for walk mode on the Bulls ebikes, this is handy if you’re chatting with a friend and have the bike loaded, you won’t have to push so hard to get it moving and go up hills etc. (just press the walk button then hold the plus button to activate)

Cons:

  • The suspension fork matches, is light weight, and has lockout… but you don’t get compression or rebound adjust, it’s plenty good for commuting, I was just surprised that it didn’t have more clicker options
  • The shift detection on Bosch motors is a nice feature but it’s not foolproof, you can still grind gears if you don’t ease off while pedaling just a bit, expect a bit more wear on the chain, sprockets, and derailleur with any mid-drive ebike
  • The price jumped several hundred dollars from the older 2016 model, but you do get a larger battery, nicer drivetrain, better fenders, and some other little upgrades
  • Bosch battery mounts are designed to let you tighten the pack to reduce rattling but this one felt extra tight to start, I really had to push down hard to hear it click into place and if you don’t do this, the pack could fall off and get broken (that’s a big deal considering batteries are ~$900 a piece)
  • The seat post that comes with the bike is a bit short, it was only 270 mm long vs. the standard 300 or 350 mm and perhaps that’s because I was on the small sized model? A shorter post does save weight but for people with longer legs,
    it can be too short, pay attention to the minimum insertion height marking on the tube and don’t let those show or it could be up too high which could be dangerous or bend your seat tube

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LimboJim
3 hours ago

My Bulls FS3 eMTB has a Brose motor, same as your Turbo Levo, Jim. Sure, Specialized "custom-programmed" the motor's software, but it's still cranking the same 90Nm of extra torque through the drivetrain. I also own a Haibike Sduro Allmtn+ with a Yamaha (80Nm), and a Motobecane w/Shimano (75Nm). My friends and I have put hundreds of trail miles on all three, and we've broken a few chains.

We've all been mountain biking since the early '90s, and consider ourselves to be experienced riders who know how and when to shift. eMTBs, however, are a different story. I find that they're far more susceptible than unassisted MTBs to bending chain links when shifting under any kind of load and/or the slightest cross-chaining, and are totally intolerant of standstill shifts (especially when caked in dried mud, which makes everything stickier). Of these three ebikes, the Bulls w/Brose has been the most prone to chain breaks, even when freshly cleaned and properly lubed. I suspect it's because of the motor's higher torque (it's also the heaviest of the three).

My 2002 Stumpjumper could go indefinitely without lubing its chain, and did 15 years ago when I first got it. One of my buds now wants to buy his own eMTB, which is great, but he only cleans his current MTB semi-annually, and maintenance is not something he does frequently, either. I told him what I'm saying to you - if you expect to treat an eMTB just like a mountain bike, you'll likely be disappointed. For me, pedal assist amplifies the fun factor by at least 10, but also requires three times the maintenance.

That's a trade-off I'm willing to make.

Dan Dialogue
3 days ago

Hi Scott,

It's converting the front crank, either a 2 or 3 chain ring to a single ring. You can check out my post in the Bulls forum here:

https://electricbikereview.com/forum/threads/my-unintentional-1x11-conversion.15912/

You only need post adapters to increase the rotor size. I'll take some photos and post them back here.

Dan

Scott Adams
3 days ago

Nice photos.

Curious what "converting to a 1X" means?

What all is involved in increasing the rotor diameter- is it necessary to custom weld the caliper mounts into a new position?

Riding an ebike at night is fantastic.

Dan Dialogue
3 days ago

HI All,

Just roaming around the site and found this thread. I've posted in other threads but never really took the opportunity to introduce myself. My name is Dan and I reside in a suburb of SLC, UT. I currently own two bikes. The first is a 2015 Cannondale Trigger 4. It's my "analog" bike and the one I ride in areas where I can't legally ride my eBike, like Ski resort riding, MTB only trails in Moab, forest and BLM land.

My regular ride is a 2016 Bulls EVO E-Stream FS3 and it has been fantastic. Especially since converting it to a 1X, installing a dropper post and increasing the rotors to 203mm. It has allowed me to ride longer, to keep riding with my 23-yr old son and to ride without knee pain.

I recently bought a couple of Bontrager ION 800 R LED lights and have been night riding. Terrifyingly awesome!

Scooteretti
1 week ago

@Boca, sorry to hear you are going through these issues. Normally things are really easy where it would take a few days to diagnose the issue and fix it.

I'm very surprised that the box wasn't opened, batteries inspected and charged up fully prior to giving them (one) to you. This is what happens I guess when steps get missed.

But happy that the new battery is up and running and the 2nd one is on it's way to you.

As mentioned above, our expereince with Bulls has very positive and customers love their bikes.

safe riding & best regards,

Will
shop.scooteretti.com

Boca
1 week ago

Hey guys, thanks for the new interest in my issue.

My bikes have been in a shop near Miami at the request of Bulls for evaluation. Communication with the shop has been difficult due to a language barrier, but they are sincere. Communications with Bulls has been on and off, but also sincere. The tech guy at Bulls in California is probably covering the whole country and has limited time to communicate, but here's the deal:

Bulls wanted the batteries hooked up and tested according to their protocol. The shop did that but one came back "incomplete and timed out." Bulls had a hard time getting the shop to finish that one, but Bulls finally decided to replace both batteries. The shop earlier said they tested fine, but they, like me, were unable to charge them with my chargers or theirs. Nobody is telling me what the problem is, but I finally pried some info out of the shop. They said there was a manufacturer lot of bad batteries wherein a case screw was grounding out one of the cells. So, my theory had been that my chargers were tripping out. I could hear them click when hooked up to the battery. So, I guess the batteries were shorted. The mystery is why two batteries would short out at the same time. I had had problems with one of the batteries from day one. It would never charge over 80 %, but both were chargeable until I ran them down to 20% and 40%.

The shop told me the new batteries had come in. It is an hour's drive for me. I got there and the box contained only one battery. The shop felt bad about it and said they would have the second battery delivered to me when it comes in. When I got home I charged the battery. It went to full charge and the charger acted normal. Looks like the chargers are OK - just a bad battery. Now if I can get the second battery I'll be good to go. UPS says the battery has been at their facility In Jacksonville since Feb 4 with no updates. Geez...what's going on?

Scooteretti
1 week ago

@Boca indeed would love to hear to outcome. Sounds like a BMS issue within the battery. Multiple known chargers that are know to work that don't work when put on a battery would indicate a poor internal connection or a bad BMS. My guess is BMS.

Keep us posted on the outcome.

I am a big fan of the Bulls bikes and they are reliable. Liek anything nothing is 100% perfect but you at least have a brand that offers great support and a strong customer service attitude. They will get you back up an running.

regards,

Will
shop.scooteretti.com

jared1843
1 week ago

Jeffb,
My Levo is an aluminum hard tail so the handling of a full suspension Levo I can't really speak to. The Brose motor is great and is very quiet. This new Shimano e8000 motor is just about as quiet and I hardly notice its on. Both motors are really smooth and responsive. The Shimano motor is smaller and lighter and the Focus has a smaller battery in the down tube which is done on purpose to keep the bike lighter. Its in the neighborhood of 5 pounds lighter than the Levo and that weight is noticeable to me. Right now I'm loving the new firmware update that has the trail mode constantly sense torque from your pedaling and apply more power when you provide more power. Very cool.

jeffb
1 week ago

Hi J I am currently looking at both the carbon Levo expert and Jam2 C plus pro and the fact that you have both was wondering which one do you like the best. I currently ride a Bulls e stream evo 45 fs and I really like the brose motor mainly for how quiet and smooth it is the main problem with the bulls is it weighs 56lbs. What is your impression of the brose vs the shimano e8000. Keep us posted as you ride the Jam2.

Vlassi1980
2 weeks ago

I bought a Bulls Green Mover E45 this year. Very good and decent bike with 1 mayor flaw: It only supports to 45 km/h - 28 mph in the highest support setting.

Sport: 45 km/h - 28 mph
Climb: 35 km/h - 20 mph
Tour: 35 km/h - 20 mph
Eco: 35 km/h - 20 mph

This bike contains the same hardware as the Bulls Outlaw. (Battery from BMZ, Engine from SR Suntour etc....)
I have been in contact with the following parties:

- My local bike shop says that Bulls does not provide any software updates
- Manufacturer (ZEG / Bulls) says that an update is not needed
- SR Suntour says that applying an update is possibly with a writing device that you plug on the controller and that it is really easy.

In this thread i noticed that the issue was resolved by applying a software update on a Bulls Outlaw:
https://electricbikereview.com/forum/threads/bulls-outlaw-e45-green-mover.4997/

I am looking and looking but can not find any way to update the software on my bike. It is really frustrating since the bike consumes a HUGE amount of battery in the highest Sport mode. But if i go down a level it only supports to 20Mph which is too slow.

What is even more frustrating is that the Hercules Alassio E45 supports all times to 32 mph. This is the sister model of my Bulls Green Mover and nearly the same.

Hope that somebody has the answer or can give some explanation for my dealer how this can be done. The bike would be perfect if this flaw could be removed.

Thanks and kind regards from the Netherlands.

niveksilliw
2 weeks ago

Thanks for the info. I really want a Riiese &Muller (R&M) ebike with the Nuvinci hub & the carbon belt(Charger or Delite)! Why? I already own a Trek Single Speed with a carbon belt. The lack of constant maintenance required when compared to a chain and derailleur has been a godsend. However I am concerned because the ability to cruise comfortably between 25-28mph seems to be limited. I am a power rider who prefers spin at a moderate 60-80rpm in a higher/harder gear. The bike I buy, if it is a R&M, will have two batteries. I also don't plan to use it for commuting either. What I want most is a recreational, fun, fast, ride that will easily provide the opportunity to go off the designated bike path or road. With two batteries I plan to not be limited by distance and/or concern about the mode I'm in - be it Sport or Turbo! Even, if I buy the Bulls EVO TR Street, I plan purchase an extra battery.
The final factor will be test rides of both bikes. Hopefully the Nuvinci will have a larger gear range. Listening to Court very closely has caused me to infer that 28mph Speed Pedelcs from Bosch probably should have the 22 teeth front sprocket to counteract the decrease in torque, 75-60.
PS: There is a local Trek dealer within five minutes of my home that I trust to provide any services necessary. The shop sells Trek. Bosch, ebikes also, so I am not worried

Over50
2 weeks ago

Unfortunately I can't provide much advice because I have no experience with Bulls nor do I have experience with full suspension bikes. It could be a superb bike easily competitive with the R&M in which case I would say you might want to stay with the almost local Bulls dealer.

I do own the R&M Charger with the Nuvinci (28 mph bike). In the Detroit area, when I started shopping there was very little in the way of e-bike inventory available for test riding (still pretty much the case). After trying a bunch of bikes at an e-bike expo in Wash D.C. (not including Bulls or R&M) I opted to order the R&M as I knew the Bosch system and style of bike would meet my needs. I trusted in the R&M reputation. I ordered from Propel in Brooklyn but when it arrived from Germany I flew to Brooklyn to try it out (ensure the sizing and that I liked the bike). For me, ordering from a distant dealer (Propel) has worked out well for two reasons: 1). Propel is a good/honest outfit and is customer service focused - so everything with the sale and shipping was as-promised and they have been responsive to my follow-up questions; 2). I have an LBS that is mostly a Trek shop but which is Bosch certified - they are really receptive to servicing bikes that were not purchased from them and in fact they carry a large banner on the front of their store that says "we service all makes and models". So while sometimes it is a lottery there as to whether you'll get a tech with little or much experience, I know I have service available and they can figure out most issues. I suppose if I had a warranty issue with the R&M (and not the Bosch system) I might have to go through Propel but I am confident they would be helpful. Since I am a very bad bike mechanic, having an LBS nearby that is happy to service bikes they didn't sell took a lot of the risk out of my transaction.

In your case: Have you talked to the Bulls dealer and did they say they might get some demo bikes in soon? Again I think the bike will be available soon because Court showed it in his recent Urban Evo video. And I'd expect Court's review on the TR Street to hit this website any day now. So maybe the Bulls would be the way to go because you have a dealer fairly close. Of course the ideal is that you can try both bikes but I understand that will require some waiting and some logistical and perhaps expense issues. If you decide to have a bike shipped to you and if you aren't a great mechanic then I'd try to be sure that you have an LBS available that can provide basic bike service (wheel truing, brake bleeding etc). And for Bosch service, you'll have to go through a Bosch dealer regardless of where you buy. I would imagine that in the Chicago area it shouldn't be a problem to find a Bosch servicer. Some folks on this forum have said that some dealers will charge for firmware updates and such. I haven't had to perform service on the Bosch system yet so I can't speak to this.

As for the Nuvinci, I've expressed my opinion in my thread about the Charger. It isn't a bad system and it is working for me but when/if I replace my R&M, I won't select the Nuvinci system. I have mostly flat terrain for my commute and the Nuvinci doesn't quite have the gear range to allow me to cruise under that 28 mph cut-off comfortably. I can cruise maybe at about 23 mph but at that speed I'm spinning pretty fast. I have hit 26-28 mph in short bursts but I'm really spinning and working hard. I have only once surpassed 28 mph on a flat and that was with good pavement and a strong tailwind. I can't help but having the feeling, when I am at the end of the gear range and cruising on a flat, that I am just lacking one more gear. For most of my commute, the top speed isn't so relevant because I have a lot of start/stop city riding. But for the couple of stretches I have where I can do some cruising, I would really like an "extra gear". The system has been reliable so far and as I've learned to use the Bosch assist levels like gears (mostly Eco to Tour sometimes to Sport) then I find I don't have to worry about changing gears that much. This contrasts to my Haibike with derailleur where I'm shifting all the time.

Rjames
9 months ago

Court are you reviewing the hyperfat bike by Juiced bike pretty soon?

ElectricBikeReview.com
9 months ago

I was going to but Tora had a schedule change or the bike wasn't ready. I haven't heard back from them in a while but I plan to eventually :)

F r e e l e e
9 months ago

Good work Court.

ElectricBikeReview.com
9 months ago

Thanks :D

Marty Yu
9 months ago

Why is this a bike for women? The Bulls site makes no mention of this being a women's bike. There are men prefer step-thru bikes.

josh spradling
9 months ago

i do not speak cracknese, so there is a language barrier to that request

still a women's frame though, doesn't mean it's bad to use such, as there are quite a few products designed for women that are useful/practical for men (and vice versa) for a variety of reasons (age and injury being a common one)

Michigan Mister
9 months ago

tell that to my angry 60 yr. old hips. the step thru Pedego Boomerang kept me on the road.

josh spradling
9 months ago

Marty Yu step thru's are women's bikes

the entire design was so that women (wearing dresses) could ride

and even now due to height difference step thru is more geared towards women than men

Alex
9 months ago

ElectricBikeReview.com I was surprised to here you say that too ... as a guy this is the perfect bike for me, if they would have made it 28mph and $3400. Great review as always!

ElectricBikeReview.com
9 months ago

Yeah... I almost edited out that mention, sorry. That particular bike had been on order for a woman and she was in my mind when doing the review. I like the mid-step frames and even the deeper wave models. Normally I'm more sensitive, thanks Marty :)

philodygmn
9 months ago

I hate to keep harping on this, but those lights have _got_ to be removable. They are thief candy. Manufacturers need to collaborate on a hot-swappable standard for powered lights that just slot into place and work in all weather.

Steve Donovan
9 months ago

A legitimate point but that's some really, really stupid thieves.

philodygmn
9 months ago

ElectricBikeReview.com The parts alone are enough to attract petty theft, and internal cabling means a replacement involves extensive labor charges, unfortunately.

ElectricBikeReview.com
9 months ago

It would be cool to have removable lights that could still be powered by the main battery... that would be the coolest! But I find that integrated lights usually are not stolen because they don't work if they are ripped off, the cables are woven through the frame and connected to the controller and battery

Kris Meys
9 months ago

Are you planning a review of the Scott e-silence bikes? They look amazing.

ElectricBikeReview.com
9 months ago

Hi Kris, thanks for letting me know that you're interested, I will definitely be keeping an eye out for those but have not filmed them yet :)

Kristian Jensen
9 months ago

Thanks for putting this up! I have ordered the Bulls Cross Rider-E but there are no reviews of the 2017 models. Will you be doing a review on that and could you elaborate on the E-MTB mode? Best regards from Denmark!

ElectricBikeReview.com
9 months ago

Hi Kristian, I did an interview with a marketing rep from Bosch and have a separate video explaining eMTB mode, will post that in the coming week or so. Thanks!

CLOTHED IN SHADOWS.
9 months ago

C😎😎L driving court.

E.B.R. , A top tier platform.

"CLOTHED IN SHADOWS"👤

ElectricBikeReview.com
9 months ago

Doing my best! Thanks for your support

Chauncey Smith
9 months ago

first yea

Chauncey Smith
9 months ago

i like the bulls bike. but i miss the hub motors

ElectricBikeReview.com
9 months ago

Hey Chauncey! How are ya? What do you think of these Bulls bikes lately?