BULLS SIX50+ E FS 3 Review

Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Electric Bike Review
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Bosch Performance Line Cx Motor
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Bosch Powerpack 500 Battery
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Bosch Intuvia Display Ergo Grips
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Schwalbe Rocket Ron Tires 650b Plus
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Rockshox Yari Rc Air Suspension
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Shimano Deore Shadow Xt Plus 11 Speed
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Rock Shox Deluxe Rt Rear Suspension
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Bosch Battery Charger
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Electric Bike Review
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Bosch Performance Line Cx Motor
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Bosch Powerpack 500 Battery
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Bosch Intuvia Display Ergo Grips
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Schwalbe Rocket Ron Tires 650b Plus
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Rockshox Yari Rc Air Suspension
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Shimano Deore Shadow Xt Plus 11 Speed
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Rock Shox Deluxe Rt Rear Suspension
Bulls Six50 Plus E Fs 3 Bosch Battery Charger

Summary

  • An all-mountain electric bike with plus sized tires for improved stability, traction and comfort, 150 mm air suspension with compression and rebound adjust
  • Battery and motor mount design are tighter than older Bosch systems, weight is kept low and center for balance, available in three frame sizes for improved fit
  • 1 x 11 drivetrain is light and clean, narrow-wide tooth pattern on the chainring compliments the Shadow+ derailleur tightening clutch to reduce bounce and drops
  • High capacity Powerpack 500 improves range, Bosch CX motor offers high torque for climbing, no bottle cage bosses, no seat post dropper, stickers vs. paint

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Introduction

Make:

BULLS

Model:

SIX50+ E FS 3

Price:

$4,699

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Trail, Mountain

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

2 Years Motor and Battery, 5 Years Frame

Availability:

Europe, Canada, United States, Australia, New Zealand

Model Year:

2017

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

52.5 lbs (23.81 kg)

Battery Weight:

5.8 lbs (2.63 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.8 lbs (3.99 kg)

Frame Material:

7005 Aluminium Alloy

Frame Sizes:

16.1 in (40.89 cm)17.3 in (43.94 cm)19.3 in (49.02 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

30" Stand Over Height

Frame Types:

High-Step

Frame Colors:

Matte Black with Gloss Orange and Blue Accents

Frame Fork Details:

Rock Shox Yari RC 29/27.5+ Suspension, 150 mm Travel, Compression Adjust, Rebound Adjust, Boost 110 mm / 15 mm Thru Axle with Quick Release

Frame Rear Details:

Rock Shox Deluxe RT Suspension, 150 mm Travel, Rebound Adjust, Compression Adjust, Boost 148 mm / 12 mm Thru Axle with Quick Release

Gearing Details:

11 Speed 1x11 Shimano Deore XT Shadow Plus, 11-42

Shifter Details:

Shimano Deore XT DYNA-SYS11 Triggers on Right

Cranks:

SR Suntour Cranks, 175 mm Length, 15T Chainring with Alloy Bash Guard, Narrow Wide Teeth

Pedals:

Wellgo C128DU Alloy Platform, Cage Style

Headset:

Tapered 1-1/8" to 1-1/2"

Stem:

STYX Alloy, 7° Rise, 31.8 mm Bore, Lengths: (60 mm, 70 mm)

Handlebar:

STYX Alloy Low Rise, 740 mm Width, 25 mm Rise, 9° Bend, 31.8 mm Bore

Brake Details:

Magura MT5 Storm Hydraulic Disc with 180 mm Rotors, 4 Piston Front Caliper 2 Piston Rear Caliper, Magura MT5 Levers with Adjustable Reach

Grips:

Velo Rubber Ergonomic, Locking

Saddle:

Selle Royale, Active

Seat Post:

STYX Aluminum Alloy

Seat Post Length:

350 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

30.9 mm

Rims:

Bulls, Alloy, Double Wall, 35 mm Width, 32 Hole

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 14 Gauge Front, 13 Gauge Rear, Black with Nipples

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Rocket Ron, 27.5" x 2.8"

Wheel Sizes:

27.5 in (69.85cm)

Tire Details:

Performance, Folding, 17 to 38 PSI

Tube Details:

Presta Valve

Other:

Locking Removable Battery Pack with LED Charge Indicator, 1.7 lb 4 Amp Charger

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bosch Performance Line CX

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

350 watts

Motor Torque:

75 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Samsung

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

13.4 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

482.4 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

4 hours

Estimated Min Range:

30 miles (48 km)

Estimated Max Range:

70 miles (113 km)

Display Type:

Bosch Intuvia, Removable, Adjustable Angle, Grayscale, Backlit LCD

Readouts:

Speed, Assist Level (Eco, Tour, Sport, Turbo), Battery Level (1-5), Odometer, Trip Distance, Estimated Range, Clock, Max Speed, Average Speed, Trip Time, Shift Assist Recommendation

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad with Tactile Feedback on Left, 5 Volt 500 mA Micro USB Port on Display

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Measures Wheel Speed, Pedal Cadence and Pedal Torque, Power Output Relative to Pedal Input: Eco 50%, Tour 120%, Sport 190%, Turbo 275%)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

The Bulls SIX50+ E FS 3 is a fun all-mountain ebike with Bosch CX drive system. It’s fun, because it can go almost anywhere with longer travel 150 mm suspension from RockShox and plus sized 2.8″ tires from Schwalbe. As a Class 1 electric bike with 20 mph top assisted speed, it would be allowed on more trails than Class 2 or 3 and I was able to pedal faster than this off-road due to in part to the larger wheel diameter. It coasts fast and rolls over obstacles with ease. Weighing in at about 52 lbs and offering three frame size choices, it’s a bike that can fit more riders and handles very well, it feels balanced. Most of the drive system weight is low and center where you want it, there’s limited unsprung weight. The wheels feel sturdy and stiff, even with larger tires, thanks to Boost hubs (slightly longer than average) and the 15 mm and 12 mm thru-axles. You get quick release on both wheels and the battery pack and display can also be taken off to reduce weight or store / charge separately. The motor is extremely responsive and powerful but does produce a whining noise at higher speeds, Bosch is known for offering higher than average max assisted cadence up to 120 RPM which means you can spin with lower gears and still get help from the motor… Some Yamaha systems by comparison, only assist up to 100 RPM. A highlight with the design of this bike is how the motor and battery are built into the downtube. The motor is angled up and blended into the frame with alloy plates extending to the base of the battery. Bosch drive systems aren’t as hidden or stealthy as Brose (which is available on some other Bulls models) but this one looks pretty good and the battery is going to be easier to remove, the battery interface is backward compatible with Bosch Powerpack 400. I also noticed that the battery could be locked and charged more easily than the Brose system and had a nicer rubber cover but there wasn’t room for a bottle cage mount in the central triangle of the frame.

Driving the bike is a 250 watt nominally rated Bosch mid-drive CX model that produces 75 Newton meters of peak torque output. It’s very impressive, don’t let the lower watt rating fool you… it peaks out above 500 watts and has been a top performer for me in climb tests, outperforming higher rated motors due to its responsiveness. Rather than spinning a standard sized chainring, Bosch systems use smaller rings (like the 15 Tooth ring here) that rotate at 2.5 times your pedal cadence. One limitation is that it does not currently support multiple chainrings and the smaller ring doesn’t get as much clearance over the right chainstay. This means the chain runs closer to the stay and can bounce into it on bumpy terrain. To address this, the SIX50+ E FS3 has a thin rubberized slap guard and is built with Shimano Deore XT Shadow+ drivetrain components. The Shadow+ model derailleur has a clutch system that can tighten the chain to reduce bouncing, slip and drops. And the chainring uses a narrow-wide tooth pattern and has an alloy bash guard (outer guide) to keep everything on track. Everything worked well during my ride tests across pavement, gravel and wood chips. Note that shifting requires a bit more effort when the Shadow Plus clutch has been engaged. The Bosch motor offers limited shift sensing that reduces mashing but you’ll still want to shift thoughtfully while easing off your pedaling a bit. The motor controller measures rear wheel speed, pedal cadence and pedal torque one thousand times per second to optimize response and shifting performance and as you ease off, the torque signal reduces motor power.

Powering this electric mountain bike is the new Bosch Powerpack 500 which fits the same dimensions and design as the older 400 watt hour pack and only weighs ~0.3 lbs more while delivering 25% more capacity for increased range. It’s an impressive battery that’s easy to mount, dismount, carry around and charge with the compact charger mentioned earlier. The left side of the case has a button with five LED ticks to indicate charge level which is useful if you’ve stored the bike in a garage or somewhere away from the pack and want to double check if it needs to be refilled before a ride. To maximize the life of this and other Lithium-ion batteries, you can store it in a cool, dry location. Bosch ships this battery at about 50% to avoid stressing the cells and that could be interpreted as a good way for you to store it for longer term periods between use… but avoid letting it get to and stay at 0%, I usually charge it up after a month or two of disuse and get it to 80% vs. 100% to avoid stressing the cells.

Operating the Bulls SIX50+ is very easy and quick. Once the battery is charged and mounted, you can hop on and ride around like a normal bike… then press the power button on the Bosch Intuvia display panel to boot it up and get assist. There are four power levels and I tend to ride in the second one (Tour) for a good mix of efficiency and support. The first level (Eco) is enough to reduce the struggle of pedaling a 52 lb bike around, making it feel like a normal 25 lb bike but it won’t do much for climbing or accelerating. Changing support levels can be done without removing either hand from the grips if the system has already been turned on. There’s a button pad near the left grip with up and down arrows that click as you press them. In between these buttons, an Information button is rounded and rubberized, creating a physical reference point. This button cycles through trip stats like max speed and trip distance but also shows range. Range is cool because it’s dynamically calculated using the last three miles of ride data, your battery level and the chosen assist level. For me, it’s much more useful than the five bar battery readout on the battery and display panel. The display is faintly backlit to make it readable at night but not so bright that it becomes distracting. It swivels to reduce glare and has a light bulb button near the lower right corner which isn’t used on this electric bicycle because lights have not been added. Depending on your local shop, integrated lights can be placed and they will run off the battery vs. independent cells. Note that you can enter into the display to change the clock, adjust shift recommendation and switch from miles per hour to kilometers per hour by holding the reset and i buttons on the display panel.

The Bulls SIX50+ E FS 3 is a go-anywhere machine that’s nimble and beautiful. I love the battery and motor integration and appreciate the upgraded Selle Royale saddle, Magura hydraulic brakes and ergonomic locking grips. While I do wish it came with a seat post dropper, the quick release seat tube collar does the trick with a little more time. Bulls has a great reputation in Europe and has entered the US without missing a beat. Their bikes aim to balance value with high quality hardware, dealer support and a solid warranty. The terrain I tested this model on does not do it justice but I still had a blast. It’s easy to reach and maintain 20 mph on rolling terrain and even moderate inclines but going faster is no problem on flats and downhill thanks to the larger tires which almost ride like 29ers. Big thanks to Bulls for partnering with me on this post and taking me out to a few neat spots near their US headquarters in Los Angeles.

Pros:

  • Tight motor integration, older Bosch Centerdrive motors bulged out in the front and hung down lower, this one is angled and tucked up into the downtube raising clearance and blending in nicely
  • The battery pack looks great as well, the base is cupped by an Aluminum flange that extends towards the motor and stickers connect the two sections visually
  • Longer Boost hubs support plus sized 2.8″ tires which provide stability and improved traction, they’re a blast for trail riding and push the effective diameter of the 27.5″ rating closer to 29″ which improves speed and allows you to roll over large obstacles
  • Three frame sizes available so you can dial in fit, angled top tube lowers stand over height so mounting and dismounting is safer
  • Stiff thru-axles offer strength and support the wider, heavier tires, you also get quick release on both so trail maintenance and transport is faster and easier
  • Both the display and battery pack are removable which takes the bike weight down to ~47 lbs for easier transport on car racks (especially useful if you’re moving several bikes at once)
  • Micro USB port on the right edge of the Bosch Intuvia display panel can run some electronic devices or help charge a bright headlight for dusk or trail rides
  • Air suspension is more adjustable and lighter weight than coil, both are long-travel with compression and rebound adjust as you’d expect from higher end components
  • Compared with the Brose powered Bulls models I feel like the battery pack is easier to charge and the charging port is better protected, taking the pack off also feels safer because it’s lighter weight and has a handle loop at the top
  • The increased torque of the Bosch CX motor combined with trail riding means the chain, sprockets and derailleur may take more abuse even though the motor has software driven shift-sensing, to help keep the chain on track and reduce bouncing and slipping you can activate the one-way clutch on the Shimano Deore XT Shadow Plus (the grey lever that pulls back)
  • The chainring features Narrow-Wide teeth to lock onto the chain better and reduce slipping and kickback (since this has rear suspension), it pairs nicely with the Shadow+ clutch system
  • Excellent weight distribution with the motor and battery mounted low and center, the motor responds very quickly and offers incredible power for climbing with 75 Newton meters peak out put
  • Older Bosch systems used a 400 watt hour pack but this bike comes with the 25% larger Powerpack 500, you can easily bring the charger to extend rides further because it’s compact,
    relatively light weight and faster than average, putting out 4 Amps vs. 2 Amps on other systems
  • Nice grips, they’re narrow like standard mountain bike grips so you can wear gloves and really control the bar but they offer some ergonomic support and are locking but light weight (the locking screw is under the ergo wedge vs. an end cap)
  • Quality hydraulic brakes with four piston caliper in the front to improve power and distribute heat, both rotors are 180 mm and the levers are adjustable for reach
  • Given the smaller 15 tooth chainring on this and other Bosch powered full suspension mountain bikes, I was surprised that they didn’t put a pulley in to reduce slapping and kickback, I didn’t have any issues during my test ride and they do include a slap guard but it’s an area for consideration
  • Internally routed cables keep the frame clean and reduce the potential for snags and scratches, I like that the top tube is completely clean for transporting with hang style racks
  • The chain is kept on track by the NW sprocket and a bash guard / protector which also keeps pants clear… but who mountain bikes with baggy pants O_o

Cons:

  • The Bosch CX motor is a bit louder than Brose, you can hear a signature whining noise when it operates at high RPM, it’s also limited to a single chainring at this time
  • No seat post dropper here, the combination of longer travel and larger wheel diameter means all-mountain to me and droppers can be really useful for that kind of terrain variety, they cost a bit if you want hidden wiring but there are also cheaper ones too (get the 30.9 mm diameter to fit this ebike)
  • No bottle cage bosses, very few of the Bosch powered full suspension ebikes have managed to fit these because the triangle space is limited (especially on the smaller frame sizes)
  • If and when you need to replace the battery pack, it won’t necessarily come with the same matching decals and I’m not sure how easy transferring them would be, it might not look as good then
  • The stock pedals are lame in my opinion, they are cheap alloy cage style platform pedals that are easily bent up and don’t offer the surface area or traction I prefer for trail riding like this

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JimBo
2 months ago

Once again, Court, you provide a nice, thorough review on a helluvan eMTB!

I also noticed that the Bulls FS series don’t come standard with droppers, at least not in the North American market. I’d like to point out another dropper option from Magura – it’s totally wireless!

I’ve been using their Vyron dropper for a couple weeks now, and it’s great once you get used to it. 150mm of travel, $500 retail but I found it for about $260 from this site. Even with $25 or so shipping, it’s still less than the Reverb. Plus that site has a lot of ebike-specific goodies at lower prices than any I’ve found thus far in the US.

Court Rye
2 months ago

Very nice, thanks JimBo! You’re quite knowledgeable and up to date on this stuff. I really appreciate you sharing these tips ;) I’d like to hear more about this post if you own it, how is it different and what did you have to get used to? Is it slower than a mechanical dropper? How often do batteries need replacement or are they rechargeable?

Adam
2 months ago

Hey Court, I enjoy your reviews. Keep up the good work! Question here, is this bike tubeless ready?

Court Rye
1 month ago

Hi Adam! I believe it could be converted easily but would require liners.

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JeffDG
2 weeks ago

Thanks everyone for your responses!!
Too bad that most of the Haibikes are limited at 20mph.
I do like the design of the RadCity, though I don't think I'd take that off road (edit: single track). The other day we went to Columbus OH and road some e-bikes...Haibike, Juiced, Raleigh... and fell in love with the center Drive system...and I only rode the Yamaha, which was fantastic. The Juiced CrossCurrent was nice enough, but just didn't feel very natural, rather dead on start; but did better at higher (~15mph) speeds. The mid-drive worked marvelous throughout the entire speed range. It's true...it really felt like it was "more me" riding.

Two I did fine that meet almost all my criteria, but are budget busters are the Bulls six50 E Street ---28mph, center Drive, 100mm shock...but $3800... yikes. The other is the Haibike Hardnine Street 4.5 which loses out because it's only a 20mph, 29er, and almost $4k. Hmm...if I'm stuck in this price range, I feel like I could get a center-drive commute and convert my Trek Marlin.

goatbear
1 month ago

Hi All,
I recently purchased a Bulls six50+ E FS 3. Picked it up in Boise,Id from Boise Electric Bikes. I haven't had a chance to test it out on trails much, as I'm new to the area and don't know where many are. My commute to work has been much faster and plesent though. I did get a flat the 1st day from goat thorns on my rear tire, and the LBS doesn't carry any 27.5 tubes... Anyone got any recommendations for trails in Idaho's magic valley or ways to protect against goat thorns.

Thanks,
Doug

burmesepython
2 months ago

Hi Goodair,

Thank you for listing your concerns. I just received my Bulls Six50 E FS RSi with the Bosh motor this past Friday. I understand they are updating the firmware for the Bosh as well? Please let me know how your firmware update works out, I'd like to do the same for my E-bike.

Thank you

pxpaulx
2 months ago

I'm now leaning towards getting a commuter bike instead of a mountain bike. Most of my riding will be on paved roads, and I now think I'll enjoy having the fenders, lights, and racks built into the bike. I'm leaning towards the izip bikes as they appear to be a great value and have the twist throttle. I'm trying to decide between the dash and the pro tour. Does anyone have any thoughts on each bike? Is the pro tour basically the same bike with a sleeker battery and fancier display system? I also saw that izip's website has a sale on 2016 dash for $1,000 discount. Has the 2017 dash changed much?

They are 2 different motors, one 350w the other 500w - both are speed pedelecs, max 28mph. Both of the batteries are only 417wh - this is a little behind the bigger players (or a lot...) - bosch and yamaha motors now come with 500wh batteries, and bulls has a brose bike with 650wh batteries as well. Also, don't pay retail - shop around (local if possible and online) and negotiate a price you're comfortable with.

Check out these reviews - a little more money than the izip brand, but they are running the best motors in the business (transx is a known company, but not as established as bosch or brose):

Bulls six50 E2 Street:

https://electricbikereview.com/bulls/six50-e2-street/

Bulls Lacuba 45 (there is a normal high step version along with the step through Court reviewed):

https://electricbikereview.com/bulls/lacuba-evo-e45/

Haibike also has a couple of treking and MTB Xduro 'S' versions that are 28mph as well - check out their website as Court hasn't reviewed any of this year's models yet.

...also and a new raleigh 28mph with a brose motor, though no suspension:

https://electricbikereview.com/raleigh/redux-ie/

JRA
2 months ago

@Ravi Kempaiah,

I do know that there are internal gear ratios and that ratio does account for the final drive ratio. One figure I have seen is 2.5:1 which using the Bulls with the 22t sprocket as an example gives a highest gear ratio of 140"es (22t x 2.5 ÷ 11t x 28") so they do get it. Using the same formula with the Six50 it has a 95" gear which clearly isn't enough for 28 mph but probably sufficient for 20 mph. I am not sure about how they work changing their internal gear ratio's via software unless they have some sort of a CVT inside however. And yes, changing sprockets is not a difficult task.

But.....now that they have enough gear ratio to compensate on the top end with only one range of gearing given a single sprocket on the front they have also dictated the lower gear ratio is now perhaps too high? The Bulls will now have a low gear of 55"es (22t x 2.5 ÷ 28t x 28") which is a pretty stiff gear for hills as most gear systems perform best with a more 1:1 ratio on the low end. Not too bad as long as there is power available but hard to get going without.

For me I don't see that mid drives are that important for road type bikes. A good direct drive hub is much simpler and the final drive is not as influenced by its operation so that one can use any type of gearing system they want or are used to.

Ravi Kempaiah
2 months ago

I live in Portland and I would wager that 90% or more of the commuters ride drop bar bikes. It is hard enough to get them to think about e bikes but having to switch over to flat bar bikes is another issue and finally the manufacturers are getting with the program and offering drop bar e bikes. Raleigh also showed a drop bar bike at Sea Otter and Giant has one also, although the review I read indicated it was limited to 20 mph.

The only problem I am seeing is that it doesn't look like these bikes have high enough gearing to support effective human pedaling at the upper end. To pedal with resistance and maintain a reasonable cadence at 28mph you need at least a 130" gear and preferably more. My highest gear is 150" and I don't use it a lot but when I am going downhill with a tail wind it is there, but more importantly when I am feeling frisky and want to go fast I still have pedal enough to stay on top of the motor instead of vice versa which is important to me.

@JRA and @JayVee ,

The gearing is not just external. For example, the BULLS Dail-E Grinder has a 22T front sprocket while the flat bar Six50 E2 Street has 15T front sprocket. Initially, I was surprised by the difference. When I was updating firmware on those bikes, I noticed an option for changing the internal gearing ratio in the Bosch diagnostic software and the ratios for those 2 bikes are different. It compensates for any changes in the external physical gearing difference.
Both have the same Bosch Speed motor. It's just a tad easier to maintain 26mph on the Grinder but changing to the sprocket to a bigger one and adjusting the internal gearing is not difficult at all.

loginhater
2 months ago

Really liked the BULLS SIX50 E2 Street but didn't have the budget for it:

https://electricbikereview.com/bulls/six50-e2-street/

Lenny
3 months ago

Hi all,
I am a 42 year old 6'0" chubby guy pushing 280 lbs and I need to get back on the bike to commute for health and sanity sake. I ride 16-22 miles round trip to work over some hilly roads. Right now on my commuter bike I take about an hour to do the trip when I am feeling good. I want an e-bike to speed things up a bit for the commute. I have narrowed down my choices between the Izip E3 Dash or the Bulls Lacuba Evo for a commuter e-bike and need some input. Price wise the Izip is a little easier to digest where as the Bulls looks like a better motor and battery. So looking for suggestions and input?

BULLS Lacuba EVO 45 or the belt drive version EVO are really high-quality bikes built for heavy duty use. BULLS also has bigger battery (650Whr compared to 418whr on the izip) which means you can do a complete roundtrip commute without recharging at office. Lower the capacity, more charge cycles for the same distance. If you are going to be putting 20 miles everyday, we suggest you go with the higher capacity version. There are lots of benefits to this. One day if you just want to use the highest level of assist for your commute, you won't have worry about running out of charge and you won't have worry about upgrading your batteries for 2 more years.

BULLS is slightly on the heavier side (although not so much compared to izip).

I would also recommend you look at Six50 E2 street. This would be a better commuter bike than the 2 you mentioned.

http://www.bullsebikes.com/product/six50-e-2-street/

Griego
3 months ago

Great site! Thanks to all of those involved.
I have some mid drive bikes in my compare bucket. It's rarely possible to test ride everything I'm interested in even tough I live in a major city (Chicago). That's the toughest part about having the desire to buy an electric bike. I couldn't possibly buy a bike I've never been on but with a little extra help I can certainly narrow it down. I would really appreciate some input from anyone that actually rides any of the following bikes:
Trek XM700+
Gazelle CityZen C8 HM
Walleräng M.01
Raleigh Misceo Sport IE
BULLS SIX50 E2 Street
Thank you in advance!

Mark Peralta
3 months ago

No, and that would be a deal breaker for me if I was in the market for a commuter. The new Specialized Vado will have suspension.
Dumbar, For the same price of the super commuter,
https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/city-bikes/electric-city-bikes/super-commuter/super-commuter-8s/p/1367000-2017/
you can get this full suspension ebike (STARCKBIKE Asphalt Ebike) with the same other features.
https://www.motostrano.com/MOUSTACHE-Starkbike-Asphalt-Ebike-p/mstarka.htm
This is another worthy alternative with front suspension.
https://www.motostrano.com/BULLS-Six50-E2-Street-Ebike-p/bulls-620e2.htm

Nick Read
2 months ago

I have the specialised turbo levo expert 2017
It's amazing would def recommend to anybody , it's that good !! Eats all terrain and fills you full of confidence ...

Anew Madrid
2 months ago

A mountain bike review not even done in the mountains. Interesting. I saw someone riding one of these by the Muir beach. was intrigued. would be nice to actually see it perform on some singletrack or up fire roads.

Martian Megafauna
2 months ago

I have also made that point in previous comments on Court's videos--if you are testing an actual MTB, hit the trails.

Martian Megafauna
2 months ago

I am curious to hear from people who have had eMTBs out on actual challenging trails for a while.

Even with the additional weight being centered and fairly low in the frame, I am wondering how much of your usual riding
style and techniques suffers from the extra 25 pounds of mass. When I began riding MTBs, I found that the vertical component of riding–over logs, nasty rocks, gaps, jumps, etc.–was the most challenging. I cannot imagine what an additional 25# would have done for my accumulation of scrapes, bashes, and bruises.

I am also curious about how the electronics and motor will hold up to the abuse/use a drivetrain gets out on
real trails. This is probably especially true for novice riders: after my first two seasons of riding, the only original parts of
my MTB still going were the frame, crank, stem, bars, and of course my Time pedals. I am wondering how bomb-proof the
average electronics on these MTBs are. Any thoughts?

Nick Read
2 months ago

Martian Megafauna
I have the specialised turbo levo expert 2017
It's amazing would def recommend to anybody , it's that good !! Eats all terrain and fills you full of confidence

Karl Fonner
2 months ago

Let's see you take it up a really really steep hill

Larry Conger
2 months ago

Nice review Court u going to the Sea otter classic to check out some ebikes I hope

milliamp
2 months ago

It looks like Luna Cycles started selling ebikes in October 2016 and some of their bikes look like decent bang for the buck. The "Luna 5000 Carbon Fiber 2000w Mid Drive Fat EBike" is probably their most expensive bike at $3500 but it looks amazing. They have really reasonable prices on spare batteries (48v 13.5Ah for $375). The "Luna Aguila Hard Tail" looks half decent too for a $1800 road bike that comes stock with a 650 watt battery. Right now it looks like Juiced (Hyperfat?) and Luna are probably in the running for my first eBike purchase. Could you review a couple Luna bikes?

Mark Elford
2 months ago

Slikk whip.

Peter Paul Patalinghug
2 months ago

do some review to kids elactric bike please 24 inch

LongIslandADED.
2 months ago

by any chance will you be doing a review of the Bimoz mid drive engine anytime soon ?

ForbinColossus
2 months ago

@13:38 Great footage of the chain shifting between cogs with the scenery in background. Did you feel the shadow plus did anything? Also, Bulls managed to tilt the Bosch motor so much that I first thought it was a Brose motor.

Flatslide
2 months ago

The derailleur clutch is designed to reduce chain whip caused by rapid fore and aft movement of the jockey wheel cage over rough terrain. That's all. Shifting is slightly 'nicer' with it disengaged, but if like me you enjoy mercilessly thrashing your bike on aforementioned terrain, the clutch does a great job and disengagement is only for wheel removal.

LongIslandADED.
2 months ago

ForbinColossus by any chance have u looked at the Bimoz mid drive engine?

Alex NC
2 months ago

beautiful piece of engineering!

F r e e l e e
2 months ago

I would have the more powerful Yamaha motor and its max 120 RPM any day.

F r e e l e e
2 months ago

"The torques rated by these companies are very inaccurate"

Making up numbers doesn't change the fact the Yamaha is more powerful.

BULLS Bikes USA
2 months ago

The Brose motor is rated at 90Nm torque but I can assure you it does not feel as powerful as the Bosch CX. The torques rated by these companies are very inaccurate as there is not an standard industry method to calculate it. Most of the people who has tried both motors will tell you the Bosch is more powerful.

F r e e l e e
2 months ago

The Yamaha motor is more pokey, with 80Nm on offer. Brose CX is only 75Nm so I was right and have made a fool of Bull Rubbish Bikes.

BULLS Bikes USA
2 months ago

The Bosch CX is more powerful than the Yamaha

Jeff Perteet
2 months ago

Bulls bikes look great and that front suspension performed so smooth in the vid

TinyFPV
2 months ago

Great review as usual !

CLOTHED IN SHADOWS
2 months ago

If you could only choose one ebike motor, what would it be, ( Bosch, brose, Yamaha, bafang, or MAC) ?.

Larry Conger
2 months ago

Clothed in shadows u guys are retarded the Bosch system is superior enough said SMH

Chauncey Smith
2 months ago

Go with bafang because they have a trollal and they seem better

CLOTHED IN SHADOWS
2 months ago

Chauncey Smith I like bafang a lot as well but, I'm still trying to figure out, as well as decide which motor I should go with because, the Bosch systems are quite excellent and, the brose, Yamaha and MAC motors perform very well too.

These are things I'm still examining.😕😕😕😕😕

Chauncey Smith
2 months ago

Clothed in shadows bafang for me.

USSR APTuCT
2 months ago

The dream of the mogulds)

FRANK ROBY
2 months ago

Nice bike great review as usual Court .

J.T. Seusoff
2 months ago

Oh god it's hideous.

J.T. Seusoff
2 months ago

If you think it looks good, I certainly respect your opinion. But being a mountain bike is no excuse for ugliness.

Martian Megafauna
2 months ago

Its a mountain bike, not bar cruiser.

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 months ago

Well, at least people will see you and get out of the way ;)

C0deH0wler
2 months ago

I'm hideous. Even light thinks so. My face is just a void of black.