Total Weight:
49.5 lbs (22.45 kg)
Battery Weight:
6.5 lbs (2.94 kg)
Motor Weight:
7.6 lbs (3.44 kg)
Frame Material:
Hydroformed Aluminum Alloy 6061
Frame Sizes:
15.75 in (40 cm)17.72 in (45 cm)19.69 in (50.01 cm)21.65 in (54.99 cm)Frame Types:
Mid-Step
Frame Colors:
Matte Black with Blue and Orange Accents
Frame Fork Details:
Fox 32 Float Performance Air Suspension with Rebound Adjust, Remote Lockout and 100 mm Travel, 15 mm Thru Axle
Frame Rear Details:
RockShox Monarch RT Air Shock with Rebound Clicker and 100 mm Travel, 142 / 12 mm Thru Axle
Gearing Details:
20
Speed 2x10 Deore XT M768 Shadow Plus , 11-36TShifter Details:
Shimano Deore triggers on Left and Right
Cranks:
FSA CK-745 Cranks, FSA X-10 Chainring, 44T
Pedals:
Wellgo Aluminum Alloy Platform, Cage Style
Headset:
FSA No. 57, A-Head, Semi-Integrated, Tapered
Stem:
Xduro Aluminium, A-Head
Handlebar:
Sduro Lowriser Aluminium
Brake Details:
Shimano SLX M675, Ice-Tech, Hydraulic Disc with 203 mm Front and 180 mm Rear Rotors, Shimano SLX M675 Levers
Grips:
XLC Ergo Sport, Rubber, Lock On
Saddle:
Fizik, Manganese Rails
Seat Post:
Aluminum Alloy
Seat Post Length:
370 mm
Seat Post Diameter:
31.6 mm
Rims:
Taurus, 622 x 21c, Alloy-Double Wall
Spokes:
Stainless Steel 14G, Black
Tire Brand:
Schwalbe Nobby Nic Performance, 29" x 2.25"
Wheel Sizes:
29 in (73.66cm)Tire Details:
Tubeless Easy Snakeskin, Pace Star 3
Tube Details:
Presta
Other:
Locking Removable Battery Pack, Quick Release Wheels and Seat Tube, Cable Inlets, Replaceable Plastic Skid Plate, Gravity Casting Motor Mount Interface with CNC Milled Connection and Bearing Seat Points, Zero Cadence Assist
DestructiveTestBiker
9 years agoExtremely sharp looking bike, but at 250W nominal and 20mph speed limited seems kind of wimpy in performance.
I would love to find a more reliable motor/drive than the BBS02. My first BBS02 burned up, but Matt at Empowered was totally awesome about getting me the warranty replacement. Catch, it came detuned to only 18A, so after I added some cooling features I put it back up to 25A. Problem is after a few more months also it made a weird sound so I took it apart and found a trashed o-ring in a very bizarre design that I replaced with blue locker (Matt told me to use red but I didn’t want to make it permanent, shoulda listened), but now it is noisy again, so I have to take it apart again. In short, Bafang is typical Chinese equipment, powerful but cheaply built, low grade materials, badly designed, with a short life and terrible heat problems.
So, I really like the look of this bike and would be interested in a German or Japanese or American mid drive but they are all so wimpy and speed limited I guess I will just keep rebuilding my cheap Chinese BBS02 instead of buying a great looking bike with great suspension and brakes like the FullNine RX.
ReplyCourt Rye
9 years agoIt sounds like you’ve built some interesting (and powerful) ebikes. I agree that 250 sounds wimpy but the peak is 500 and you get 80 Nm of torque which is quite a lot. The top speed however, is a limiter and that’s meant to keep this as a Class 1 to be allowed on more trails. I can’t think of many big companies selling high-speed ebikes because there’s a liability aspect. Kits are a great way to approach the space and I also like the custom built models from companies like Hi-Power Cycles or Stealth.
ReplyMRBARBARYCOAST
7 years agoI too burned out my BBS02 after only 200 miles. I have since upgraded all of my DIY builds to the BBSHD system with 52 volt batteries and have never had a problem with them. They are worth the extra money compared to the faulty BBSO2 SYSTEMS. You can also hot rod the BBSHD systems safely to 3000watts 72v 20ah with after market kits.
ReplyDestructiveTestBiker
9 years agoCourt, thanks for the comments! I looked at the Hi-Power Cycles and Stealth sites. They definitely have some awesome bikes.
It looks like the mid-drive models at Hi-Power Cycles use the BBS02, which they rate at 750W, 1200W, or 1500W, with increasing speed, range, and watt/hour specs with increasing wattage specs. So I am pretty sure they use battery packs with increasing series cells to get higher voltage on the higher wattage rated bikes. This is all totally legit engineering but that BBS02 is going to get hotter than a pistol if you try to run it flat out continuously at 1500W! But then, who is crazy enough to drive a hotrod floored all the time? :-)
I think you are right about the power being enough on the Haibike for trail riding because it’s surprising how much climbing you can do in low gear on a mid-drive bike. I have to dial my pedal assist down to keep from power flipping off the trail on tight turns and those bikes look pretty much unstoppable on just about any climbout.
ReplyCourt Rye
9 years agoYou’re a reasonable person and the points about increasing wattage on the BBS02 systems (with increasingly large and powerful batteries) is right on. I believe some systems, possibly the E-RAD ones, do incorporate heat sensors and have some auto shutoff mechanisms but using common sense is always recommended ;)
I guess I like to rationalize the Bosch, Yamaha and other ebike systems because they are legal but yes… they aren’t as powerful or fast as some DIY systems or the BBS02. My dream electric bike is one that’s just 30 lbs but also has the torque of a Bosch mid-drive with shift sensing and a throttle… The lowered weight is my highest interest because I’m a light weight guy and enjoy the feelign of hopping the bike and keeping it with me vs. riding on it.
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