Haibike XDURO DWNHLL Pro Review

Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Electric Bike Review
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro 18 Tooth Chainring Nw Teeth Ses With Guide
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Bosch Powerpack 400 Ebike Battery
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Bosch Intuvia Ebike Display Panel Removable
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Bosch Ebike Button Pad Xlc Sport Locking Grips
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro High Speed Low Speed Suspension Compression Adjust
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Shimano Saint Drivetrain 11 36t Cassette
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Mavic Deemax Ultimate Wheelset
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Fox 40 Float Rebound Adjustment Cap
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro 12 Mm Rear Thru Axle With Quick Release
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Kind Shox Lev Dx 125 Mm Dropper Post
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Bosch Battery Charger 4 Amp
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Electric Bike Review
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro 18 Tooth Chainring Nw Teeth Ses With Guide
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Bosch Powerpack 400 Ebike Battery
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Bosch Intuvia Ebike Display Panel Removable
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Bosch Ebike Button Pad Xlc Sport Locking Grips
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro High Speed Low Speed Suspension Compression Adjust
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Shimano Saint Drivetrain 11 36t Cassette
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Mavic Deemax Ultimate Wheelset
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Fox 40 Float Rebound Adjustment Cap
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro 12 Mm Rear Thru Axle With Quick Release
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Kind Shox Lev Dx 125 Mm Dropper Post
Haibike Xduro Dwnhll Pro Bosch Battery Charger 4 Amp

Summary

  • One of the only true downhill ready electric bikes being made in series production, delivers a worldcup ready chassis and pro level components
  • Shimano Saint drivetrain and brakes (top of the line downhill groupset), with two piece Ice-Tech rotors and pads that dissipate heat (aluminum sandwiched by stainless steel)
  • Long travel 200 mm Fox 40 fork with 20 mm thru-axle, RockShox Vivid rear suspension with 12 mm thru-axle offering quick release
  • High-power Bosch Performance Line CX motor offers 75 Nm of torque, is angled for improved clearance, uses a narrow / wide chainring and works with a sprocket equalizing system to lift the chain and reduce kickback

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Introduction

Make:

Haibike

Model:

XDURO DWNHLL Pro

Price:

$8,899 USD

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Mountain, Downhill

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

2 Year Motor and Battery, Lifetime Frame

Availability:

United States, Europe

Model Year:

2016

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

53 lbs (24.04 kg)

Battery Weight:

5.3 lbs (2.4 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.8 lbs (3.99 kg)

Frame Material:

6061 Aluminum Alloy, Hydroformed Tubes, Gravity Casting Motor Mount Interface

Frame Sizes:

16.5 in (41.91 cm)17 in (43.18 cm)17.5 in (44.45 cm)18 in (45.72 cm)

Frame Types:

High-Step

Frame Colors:

Gloss White with Red and Yellow Accents

Frame Fork Details:

Fox 40 Float Factor Air Suspension with High Speed and Low Speed Compression Adjust, Rebound Adjust, 200 mm Travel, 20 mm Thru Axle

Frame Rear Details:

RockShox Vivid Air R2C, 200 mm Travel, 12 mm Thru Axle

Gearing Details:

10 Speed 1x10 Shimano Saint, 11-36T

Shifter Details:

Shimano Saint Triggers, on Right Bar

Cranks:

18 Tooth Chainring

Pedals:

Xduro Freeride, Alloy Plattform

Headset:

Cane Creek Angleset, Angele 0°, Incline 1° Angular, Tapered

Stem:

Thomson Elite X4

Handlebar:

Thomson Downhill Aluminum Alloy, 800 mm Length, 12 mm Rise, 6° Back

Brake Details:

Shimano Saint M820 Hydraulic Disc with Ice-Tech 203 mm Front Rotor and Ice-Tech 180 mm Rear Rotor, 4 Piston Ceramic Caliper Body with Heat Fins, Shimano Saint M820 Aluminum Levers

Grips:

XLC Sport with Locking Rings, Flat Rubber

Saddle:

Selle San Marco Squod Team

Seat Post:

Kind Shox LEV-DX, 125 mm Remote Drop

Seat Post Diameter:

31.6 mm

Rims:

Deemax Ultimate, Tubeless Ready

Spokes:

14G Double Butted, Stainless Steel, Bladed, 28 Front 32 Rear

Tire Brand:

Maxxis High Roller II,  27.5" x 2.4"

Wheel Sizes:

27.5 in (69.85cm)

Tire Details:

3C Max Terra, Tubeless Ready, EXO Protection

Tube Details:

Presta Valve

Accessories:

Aluminum Alloy X-SYNC Chain Guide, Sprocket Equalizing System (S.E.S.) Chain Tensioner, Narrow Wide S.E.S. and Chainring

Other:

Locking Removable Battery Pack with LED Charge Level Indicator and Step-In Battery Mount, Quick Release Rear Wheel, Motor Starts at 20 RPM, 2.2 Amp Charger 1.7 lbs

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bosch Performance Line CX, Gen 3

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

250 watts

Motor Peak Output:

350 watts

Motor Torque:

75 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Samsung

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

11 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

396 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

3.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

25 miles (40 km)

Estimated Max Range:

60 miles (97 km)

Display Type:

Intuvia, Removable Backlit Grayscale LCD

Readouts:

Speed, Assist Level (Eco, Tour, Sport, Turbo), Battery Level (1-5), Odometer, Trip Distance, Estimated Range, Clock, Max Speed, Average Speed, Trip Time, Shift Recommendation

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad with Tactile Feedback

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Combined Torque, Cadence and Speed), (Eco 50%, Tour 120%, Sport 210%, Turbo 300%)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

The Haibike XDURO Dwnhll Pro was one of the only production downhill electric bikes available at the time of this review… meaning you could get a truly capable platform in a range of sizes with a solid two year warranty and not have to customize anything for it to hold its weight on rigorous terrain. Why would you want an electric downhill bike? That’s a good question, especially for nearly $9k… It gives you the ability to quickly and easily ascend mountains and enjoy the ride down, no lift or cars required. This thing will get you more runs in a day, help you rehabilitate your knees or other injuries and frankly it’s just a lot of fun.

With 200 mm long-travel suspension; a stiff double crown Fox 40 Float fork at the front with a 20 mm thru-axle and a 200 mm RockShox Vivid Air R2C with 12 mm QR axle in the rear you can blast down rough terrain. The premium Shimano Saint M820 hydraulic disc brakes were some of the fastest-stopping hardware I’ve ever tried and the Ice-Tech rotors (aluminum inner with stainless steel outer) combines heat dissipation with strength and durability. The rotor mounts are four piston and have heat fins to keep you cool all the way down… since this bike does weigh more than most traditional downhill products at 53 pounds. To reduce weight for transport you can easily take the battery off for a 5.3 lb savings… The motor weighs 8.8 lbs and is more permanently mounted. The frame of the Dwnhll like most Haibikes is hydroformed Aluminum alloy and the battery and motor mount are made with gravity casting techniques to make them strong but light. One of my favorite touches is the inset battery mount that partially surrounds the pack and has a nice rubberized foam backing to reduce rattles.

This and most other Haibikes with the Bosch system are the real deal, it’s the best motor, battery and display combination on the market from my point of view because it responds quickly, provides good power at a wide range of RPM operation (meaning you can hit the 20 mph top assisted speed with more gears) and has been holding up well over the years that I’ve been testing (it doesn’t break down). The one complaint or question mark with the Dwnhll Pro is that you only get a 10 speed drivetrain and the largest sprocket is 36 teeth vs. 42 on some other Haibikes (like the 11 speed FullLife RX). While the motor offers 75 Newton meters of peak torque, it wasn’t enough for me to scale the steepest terrain I tried and I had to get off and push. The real tragedy here is that Bosch seems to have disabled the walk-assist button so you can’t get the bike to help push itself up… even though it’s a feature in Europe. WTF guys. Maybe I’m just confused as to how it should operate? If so, please point it out.

Pros:

  • Highly adjustable front fork with clickers to control the amount of oil that is allowed to bypass the suspensions valving stack (for high speed and low speed compression adjustment as well as rebound adjustment), rebound controls how fast or slow the suspension returns, the low-speed adjuster controls damping for smoother hits like rolling bumps whereas the high speed adjuster controls damping for harder hits like square edge bumps and it effects the ride height of the bike
  • One of the only mass produced downhill capable electric bikes around, possibly the first, it performs well with premium components integrated professionally for maximum stiffness and balance
  • The frame uses a four-bar linkage “Horst Link” swing arm designed for improved kinematics… it reduces bob while pedaling but still responds over bumps, you can’t lock either suspension out so there will always be some bobbing but it wasn’t bad, the swing arm is custom engineered to work with the Bosch battery and motor mounts that are constructed through gravity casting for strength
  • The Shimano Saint Hydraulic disc brakes are some of the fastest stopping, most powerful brakes I’ve used on any electric bike and the oversizes 203/180 mm rotors performed great without locking up or squeaking at high speed, the rotor mounts use four pistons for even braking and have integrated fins to dissipate heat during long descents
  • Haibike’s proprietary Sprocket Equalizing System (SES) elevates the chain to avoid slapping the chain stay, reduces kickback and clears mud, it and the 18 tooth chainring use narrow wide (NW) teeth to further reduce chain slip
  • The Bosch Performance CX motor offers 75 Newton meters of torque with peak output of 350 watts (but it feels way higher) and shift detection… in my experience it’s the fastest responding motor with the highest effective range of power output so you can choose the pedal cadence that feels right for you vs. adjusting how you ride to suit the motor
  • Custom Step-In downtube brings the battery lower into the frame while aluminum flanges surround, cup and protect it, the pack may be charged on or off the frame and has a solid locking core with metal lip interface
  • The battery pack is very light at ~5.3 lbs, has a nice plastic loop to make carrying easier, locks to the frame (press down firmly until you hear a click) and has a metal locking lip to make theft more difficult, I love that the downtube also has a layer of rubberized foam for a more snug fit and to reduce rattling given that this is a downhill ebike
  • For downhill riding this may be less useful… but the charger is relatively small and light weight at ~1.7 lbs so it would be easy to take with you on rides to top-off and extend range
  • The 2016 Gen 3 Bosch motors are have tighter plastic casings and appear ~38% smaller than Gen 2 in part because they can be mounted at an angle to follow the downtube, I definitely noticed that it appeared more compact and seemed to protrude less which is great on a full suspension ebike with long travel… when suspension is set to the softest level or the air is not set correctly for the rider weight you may encounter more pedal strikes but the motor itself stays high and clear, the plastic guard beneath appears sturdy
  • I love that this and many other Haibikes are available in multiple sizes, you get four frame sizes with the Dwnhll including 42 cm, 43 cm, 44 cm and 45 cm to suit a wide range of body types, this is pretty amazing to me given the bike is rare and so expensive
  • The display is backlit, easy to read and understand, works with a remote button pad positioned very near the left grips (both grips are locking for improved handling) and the button pad responds reliably and clicks when you press it
  • The Intuvia display panel from Bosch has a six volt Micro USB port for charging portable electronics… you could mount your phone or use a music player on your ride and piggy-back off the main battery
  • Excellent two year comprehensive warranty with lifetime on the frame, you get solid thru-axles for stiffer riding and easier quick release and the included tires are high performance tubeless-ready for those who ride with low PSI and don’t want pinch flats

Cons:

  • The 10 speed 11-36T cassette offers a good range for climbing and hitting the max assisted speed of 20 mph but I wasn’t able to ascend the steepest sections of trail without a larger 42 tooth sprocket as I’ve done with 11 speed Haibike models like the FullLife RX and since walk-assist has been disabled for US models I had to push the bike up which was not fun :(
  • Only one color choice here but I think it looks pretty cool, bright bold colors that could appeal to men or women alike
  • The display is large and easy to see but may take more damage on a hard-core downhill bike like the XDURO Dwnhll if you push the limits and lay it down or go over the handlebars… it’s designed to be removable so consider taking it off for rough descents
  • This and other Haibike models are coming out later in the season and many lines are sold out already… getting the bike you want in the appropriate size may be more difficult and that’s a bummer

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Only Afterhours
3 weeks ago

WOW! now we DH riders have help for the Uphills and we can now freeride sickkk semi-flat terrain! imagine how fast you can go on the traditional drivetrain, but now we've got this electric drivetrain to BULLET downhills!!!!
It is so SICK and crazy fun!!

mjs1231
2 months ago

Ur bullshit. Wtf does it weigh?
People like you that towe the corporate line is why change is slow and expensive.

Mitchell Davis
3 months ago

I am five feet 8 inches. I saw a small small Haibike Xduro Pro on Ebay for about $4,000.00 that retails for $9,000.00. Am I too tall?

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 months ago

Hi Mitchell, I think there's a lot of adjustability if you get a longer stem or seat post and just slide the saddle back a bit. The frame sizes aren't that different from one size to the next so maybe you could do a Medium perfectly but a Small or Large could probably work too :)

Jack Beames
3 months ago

Whys the seat so high it's a downhill bike

Milena
5 months ago

Geiles Teil

Patrick Oneill
5 months ago

I have never once rode my downhill bike up to the top of a trail .... so the extra weight seems pointless.... this on a enduro/cross country set up i can understand ... also if you come short on a gap jump that motor has had it

Don Mega
6 months ago

that's one good looking bike. until i heard the 250-300w motor thing! disgusting they would sell such a weak motor with such a high price tag. it simply won't do.

Philip Siemoneit
6 months ago

You should learn how to put THe feet correctly on THe Pedals :D

Philip Siemoneit
6 months ago

Ah ;)
This bike is awesome

ElectricBikeReview.com
6 months ago

Yes, it's true! I get a little awkward when filming because I have kicked my cameras before or am trying to keep my legs apart to show the suspension fork etc. :P

straight2curveus
6 months ago

why didn't you use the dropper post going down hill?
those brakes are xt xc brakes not dh brakes there not that powerful.

snowboard envy
6 months ago

Nice honest review, will you be reviewing the 2017 Haibike xduro nduro 9.0? if so, could you do a steep hill test and see if the mega range cassette actually works without jumping of the bike to push again. Thanks

snowboard envy
6 months ago

thanks mate, love your review top man :)

ElectricBikeReview.com
6 months ago

Yeah, no guarantees on the Nduro 9.0 but I'll definitely keep an eye out and go for a steep test if so :)

Gyl Bonus
7 months ago

that's some badass camera perspectives.

ALEX SUPERCROSS
7 months ago

i love how he test a downhill bike in a crosscountry trail xD hahahaha

mjs1231
8 months ago

ya at this time electeic mtb ia pointless. maybe 5 to 10 years down the line. they are still to heavy for normal riding. I DO NOT WANT A ELECTRIC MOTOR BIKE.

Don Mega
6 months ago

no they aren't too heavy. you could assemble one 1000w for like 15kg if you chose light weight frame and parts and smallish battery using high quality cells, just enough for maybe 10km without pedaling or 20km with pedal assist. motorbikes weight 5-10 times that of the e-bike so the comparison is pretty ridiculous you must admit lol

straight2curveus
6 months ago

"ya at this time electeic mtb ia pointless" says the guy that drives to the trail head or shuttles up.

J Clar
8 months ago

lousy review as usual. top speed and how fast does it get There? how long does the battery last? all talk no facts. tired of these incomplete reviews LITTERING YOUTUBE LIKE THE GARBAGE THEY ARE

Don Mega
6 months ago

those you can find from the manufacturer's website and in most cases you can trust them if they come from a well known brand with their reputation in play. he's focusing on other, including more subjective stuff. and if you're concerned of youtube being filled with his videos maybe you can hire someone to make you a script that hides his videos from showing up on your browser. or if you're poor or a cheap ass just learn to make one yourself, or stop whining.

USSR APTuCT
9 months ago

This phone is beautiful !!! My dream)))

kaywood Parsons
9 months ago

You can build one for a fraction of that price. 3000 watt cyclone mid drive on a custom frame rocks and will eat this

Dave Dave
9 months ago

This guy's lack of knowledge is astounding.  Learn mountain bike nomenclature and what things do.  i.e. high speed compression does not effect how high the bike rides.  That's called sag, and is adjusted with air pressure on that fork.  You also don't have sprockets in the back, they're called cogs.  The tires are 2.4" wide, not diameter.  The idler pulley system for the chain is not unique to Haibike.

Alex Paulsen
10 months ago

I wonder how many morons actually bought this bike.

Iurii Kolesnyk
10 months ago

What kind of helmet and glasses do you wear? I mean brand and model

CDN zine
11 months ago

I like the camera on the pole view. love your reviews but always wanted to see more of the bike during the rides. Will you be teaming up with any drone camera operators in the future?