MOAR eBikes 24/7 Review

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Moar 24 7 Electric Bike Review
Moar Indiegogo Ebike
Moar 24 7 Bafang 500 Watt Internally Geared Hub Motor Fat Bike Specific
Moar 24 7 Removable 48 Volt Battery Pack
Moar 24 7 Button Pad Lights And Horn Handle Bar
Moar 24 7 King Meter Sw Lcd Display
Moar 24 7 Basig Ergonomic Grips Non Locking
Moar 24 7 Generic Suspension Fork With Lockout Punched Rims
Moar 24 7 Custom Led Projection Headlights With Flashing
Moar 24 7 Rear Fender Custom Battery Holster
Moar 24 7 Integrated Led Light By Spanninga On Battery
Moar 24 7 Shimano Tourney 8 Speed Drivetrain
Moar 24 7 Kspeed Bumper Suspension For Rear Swing Arm
Moar 24 7 Wellgo Folding Aluminum Alloy Platform Pedals
Moar 24 7 Tektro Novela Mechanical Disc Brakes 160 Mm
Moar 24 7 Internal Cables At Fold Joint
Moar 24 7 Folded And Fit Into An Suv Trunk
Moar 24 7 Electric Bike Review
Moar Indiegogo Ebike
Moar 24 7 Bafang 500 Watt Internally Geared Hub Motor Fat Bike Specific
Moar 24 7 Removable 48 Volt Battery Pack
Moar 24 7 Button Pad Lights And Horn Handle Bar
Moar 24 7 King Meter Sw Lcd Display
Moar 24 7 Basig Ergonomic Grips Non Locking
Moar 24 7 Generic Suspension Fork With Lockout Punched Rims
Moar 24 7 Custom Led Projection Headlights With Flashing
Moar 24 7 Rear Fender Custom Battery Holster
Moar 24 7 Integrated Led Light By Spanninga On Battery
Moar 24 7 Shimano Tourney 8 Speed Drivetrain
Moar 24 7 Kspeed Bumper Suspension For Rear Swing Arm
Moar 24 7 Wellgo Folding Aluminum Alloy Platform Pedals
Moar 24 7 Tektro Novela Mechanical Disc Brakes 160 Mm
Moar 24 7 Internal Cables At Fold Joint
Moar 24 7 Folded And Fit Into An Suv Trunk

Summary

  • An entry-level full suspension fat tire electric bike with unique battery rack design, adjustable integrated headlights, two backlights, turn signals and electronic horn, you also get a USB port on the display for your own accessories
  • Between the lower PSI rating on the tires and basic suspension systems, the bike is comfortable to ride over bumps, one trade-off is increased frame flex and wobble at higher speeds
  • Available in two colors, sold worldwide through Indiegogo with $195+ for shipping, one-year parts warranty (where they send you fixes), multi-speed drivetrain and nicer brake levers
  • I feel like the brakes would work better if they were larger and hydraulic, especially given the ~75 lb weight, plastic chainring guide is vulnerable when folded, twist throttle is always live (good for advanced users but a hazard when folding if bike is left on)

Video Review

Introduction

Make:

MOAR eBikes

Model:

24/7

Price:

$2,399 ($195 Shipping in Contiguous USA, $225+ International)

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Neighborhood, Trail, Sand and Snow

Electric Bike Class:

Throttle on Demand (Class 2), Speed Pedelec (Class 3)
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Warranty:

1 Year Parts Support

Availability:

United States, Worldwide

Model Year:

2017

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

74.5 lbs (33.79 kg)

Battery Weight:

8.5 lbs (3.85 kg)

Motor Weight:

9 lbs (4.08 kg)

Frame Material:

6061 Aluminum Alloy

Frame Sizes:

19 in (48.26 cm)(Folded Size 39 cm x 86 cm x 84 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

19" Seat Tube, 22" Reach, 30.5" Stand Over Height, 76" Length, Folded Dimensions: (46" Long, 36" High, 20" Wide)

Frame Types:

High-Step, Folding (Patented OCL Joint, DoubleTruss Technology)

Frame Colors:

Black, White

Frame Fork Details:

DNM Suspension with 60 mm Travel, Lockout, Preload Adjust, 9 mm Quick Release Skewer

Frame Rear Details:

Kspeed Bumper Suspension with Limited Adjustability, 11 mm Axle with Nuts

Attachment Points:

Rear Rack Bosses, Rear Fender Bosses

Gearing Details:

8 Speed 1x8 Shimano Tourney HG-200-8, 11-32T

Shifter Details:

Shimano Triggers on Right

Cranks:

Prowheel Forged Aluminum Alloy, 170 mm Length, 48T Chainring

Pedals:

Wellgo K79 Folding Aluminum Alloy Platform

Headset:

Sealed Cartridge Bearings, 1-1/8"

Stem:

TruVativ 90 mm Length, 7° Rise

Handlebar:

Low-Rise, 25" Length, Aluminum Alloy (Aluminum)

Brake Details:

Tektro Novela Mechanical Disc with 160 mm Rotors, Tektro Levers with Integrated Bell on Left, Rubberized Edge and Motor Inhibitors

Grips:

Generic Ergonomic, Rubber

Saddle:

Velo, Brown

Seat Post:

Aluminum Alloy

Seat Post Length:

300 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

27.2 mm

Rims:

Double Wall, Aluminum Alloy, Punched Out, 32 Hole (With Brass Spoke Nipples)

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 14G Front and 13G Rear, Black

Tire Brand:

Kenda Juggernaut, 26" x 4"

Wheel Sizes:

26 in (66.04cm)

Tire Details:

30 Threads Per Inch, 5 to 30 PSI

Tube Details:

Schrader Valve

Accessories:

Adjustable Length Rear Mounted Kickstand, Integrated Spanninga Lineo Rear LED Light, Two Custom Integrated Projection LED Lights, Integrated LED Brake Light and Turn Signals, Integrated Electric Horn, Plastic Chain Guide

Other:

Locking Removable Battery Pack, 1.5 lb 2 Amp Charger, Max Weight 220

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bafang

Motor Type:

Rear-Mounted Geared Hub
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Motor Nominal Output:

500 watts

Battery Brand:

Samsung

Battery Voltage:

48 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

13 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

624 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

5.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

20 miles (32 km)

Estimated Max Range:

45 miles (72 km)

Display Type:

King Meter SW-LCD, Fixed, Backlit, LCD, 5 Volt Female USB Port on Left (Removable, Symmetrical Integrated Buttons for Right or Left Handed Users)

Readouts:

Battery Level (5 Bars), Odometer, Trip Meter, Speed, Assist Level (1-5), Timer, Watt

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad (With Variable Speed Trigger Throttle)

Drive Mode:

Cadence Sensing Pedal Assist, Trigger Throttle (12 Magnet Cadence Sensor)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)(Up to 25 mph Unlocked)

Written Review

If you’re interested in fat tire electric bikes and follow crowdfunding sites like Kickstarter and Indiegogo, you might have seen the new MOAR eBikes campaign. Their product line is decidedly affordable, awesome looking and offers full suspension making it unique. If successfully funded, the bikes should arrive in June or July of 2017 and while I normally don’t cover pre-production stuff, I have worked with their marketing agency before and seen other projects, like the Sondors, become very successful… so I wanted to help inform those who might be new to all of this. The thing about crowd funding and online-only products is that they can change, the campaign can fail or be delayed, shipping can cost extra ($195+ in this case), there’s assembly required and you can’t usually test ride it yourself before committing to buy or “support” the project. Thankfully, at least with the Sondors ebike, the product was a big success and I think most people were happy with the delivery timeline and end product.

So I was contacted to review the mid-level MOAR 24/7 model which has a slightly upgraded battery capacity, directable headlights, a brake light, LED turn signals and an electronic horn. In many ways, this thing is approaching moped performance and utility… even moped speed, because you can unlock it to surpass the legal 20 mph limit for off-road or licensed operation. If you’re mostly riding on paved surfaces and packed dirt paths it could be a fun, but heavy, transporter. This is where some of the big questions come up for me, the axles aren’t especially strong and the frame flexes quite a bit due to the pivot points and single-tube design… perhaps the folding bit contributes to this as well? While riding without hands, I noticed significant speed wobble resonating at the front of the bike. Of course, you’ll probably ride with both hands on the bar but this simulates what could happen at higher speeds (I have experienced it and crashed before on other bikes). While most electric bicycles I review weigh ~50 lbs, the MOAR 24/7 was ~75 due to its heavy-duty frame, larger tires, higher rated motor and battery (plus the battery rack arm). This really isn’t a trail or mountain ready ebike though it might look that way. In my opinion, it’s a sporty looking neighborhood electric bike with some cool technology upgrades. Some of the most meaningful upgrades I saw on this model compared with other affordable bikes were the eight-speed drivetrain, alloy folding pedals and included LCD display. Note that the Sondors only came with one gear and you had to pay extra for the display which allowed for pedal assist. This thing gives you five levels of assist and a throttle override (with full power) from the get-go.

Driving the bike is a 500 watt internally geared hub motor from the well-known Bafang company in China. To me, it’s a solid piece of hardware that should last, I appreciate that the motor casing is fat bike specific for better spoke placement and alignment. It offers the kind of power necessary for moving a heavier more friction-full fat bike like the MOAR. And it’s fairly quiet, during my ride tests I noticed that the tires actually produce more noise than the motor. Internally geared motors are more compact and lightweight than gearless or mid-drives but they position the weight that they do add towards the rear. This is clearly a negative with the two lower level MOAR ebikes (the Sun&Fun and 24/7) because the battery is also mounted towards the back. Another area to be aware of is the electronic cable routing which strings along the right chainstay then enters the axle at the right. It didn’t protrude much but could be bent or even cut if the bike tipped over or got pushed up against a wall or thick brush while riding. The derailleur is also mounted on the right side of the bike so just be extra careful with it all, these are the sensitive bits.

Powering the motor and all of those fancy lights is a beautifully packaged 48 volt 13 amp hour battery pack. It slides easily into a custom, sturdy feeling tray and can be charged either on or off the bike. The rubber cover for the charge port can be tricky to press back in but that’s not unique to this specific ebike (come on China! please fix those…) What I really love is how slim the casing is and that it has a name-brand Spanninga light integrated along the back edge along with a large reflector! The pack didn’t rattle like some of the other rear-battery setups I’ve seen and perhaps that’s due in part to the larger tire and rear suspension. The pack locks solidly to the frame but you don’t have to leave the keys in to jingle around as you ride and apparently the final version will have bosses along the left and right as well as the bottom (where the fender is) for adding a cargo rack. Please, do be careful about how much weight and cargo you add, this is already a heavy platform and pack (the battery weighs ~8.5 lbs on its own) and adding too much more could compromise the frame and further impact handling. It might also limit how far your saddle can go down and the angle isn’t great. I’d steer clear of side-hanging panniers too because they could easily rub on the fat tire when turning, or perhaps even get caught and stop the bike. Note, there are not bottle cage bosses on this electric bike. My best suggestion for bringing stuff along isn’t a rack at all, I’d simply wear a hydration pack or normal backpack.

Operating the MOAR electric bikes is a multi-step process and a bit untraditional. Once the battery is charged and slid-on and locked you can toggle an on/off switch on the pack itself then jump to the handle bars and press the Mode button for a few seconds. From here, the display comes on but you’ll have to move back to the battery again in order to activate the Spanninga light mentioned earlier, press the rubberized power button on top of the pack. As soon as the bike is on and the display is working the throttle is live. This isn’t ideal in my opinion because the bike is heavy and you might not be finished positioning it or perhaps parking and folding it. Please be careful with the twist throttle because an accidental twist could lead to the bike taking off and tipping ton one side… and it’s heavy and sort of vulnerable (as mentioned earlier). My own approach would be to have a Zero level that is the default when powered on. In this mode the throttle would not work and you’d be able to handle the bike with lower risk of tipping or taking off. Once arrowing up through the five levels of assist, the throttle could be active and used instantly. I do like that the throttle is currently designed to override assist because it gets you going from stanstill and can be used to pass other riders or ascend a steep hill without messing with the control pad (arrowing up for higher assist). I also like how large and easy to use the display is, and that it has a USB charging port. The obvious downside to all of the display options, nice upgraded brakes and fancy aimable lights is that they crowd the handlebar. Check out the overhead picture I took of the handles and see how nearly all of the space is already taken. I do like the custom lights for safety, and they do light your way a bit! but would be careful with my knees if I were taller. The MOAR e-bike frames only come in one size and the bars are not adjustable, just the saddle height.

I personally feel that the MOAR 24/7 does a lot right but would probably opt for the higher level mid-drive Rapt model if I were going to get one of these. I like to ride more aggressively and feel that the mid-drive would offer the climbing power and reduced frame flex needed for basic trail riding. None of these bikes are going to accel on real mountain bike paths but I bet they’d do alright in some soft dirt and a bit of snow. They look very cool but aren’t as sporty and capable in real life. The suspension is very low end, especially for the rear, and the drivetrain is one of the lowest Shimano offers. I noticed a bit of chain slip while riding and would be extra careful with the mid-drive version due to added forces on the chain… not to mention the impact of the up and down motions from the swing arm. The Bafang mid-drive units I have tried don’t usually offer shift sensing so you’re combining high power with low durability parts and no buffer besides your own riding skills and experience with electric bikes. I’m not sure how many times you’d be able to successfully pull an SUV before needing to replace the chain but that was a fun marketing video on their site. Could you climb stairs? Maybe an advanced rider with some time to practice. I felt unstable at times and really had to slow down when turning due to the weight distribution and flex. But I don’t want this to all sound like a warning, I think their marketing is just that… marketing, but at least the specs, weight and story are authentic. I’m excited to see how this thing does and as mentioned earlier, I feel that they are using better parts and accessories than many other crowd funded electric bikes. You’re getting something unique and fun for your dollar here but it is heavy and there are limitations to what it can do. Note that the headlights can flash (one side or the other at a time) by turning them on and then off again to cycle through. I also want to communicate that the turn signal feature is cool but with the fender I’m not sure how visible it would be. Big thanks to the MOAR and Agency 2.0 teams for partnering with me to make this review possible, especially in advance of their crowd funding campaign launch.

Pros:

  • Given the low crowdfunding price, I love the fun extras and mid-level components used here compared with some other projects like the Sondors… namely, the eight-speed drivetrain, metal folding pedals and quality brake levers
  • I’m glad they went with disc brakes but 160 mm rotors just barely cut it for a bike this large and heavy, it would be better to have 180 mm rotors (at least up front) and hydraulic lines vs. mechanical for easier actuation
  • Unique lighting options, depending on the model you choose the bike will come with up to four wired-in LED lights! The two headlights can be aimed, the rear brake light goes bright when pulling the brake lever, there are turn signals and a more traditional red backlight
  • Punched-out rims reduce weight, look neat (with the tire liner showing through) and allow for more give and cushion while riding, the PSI range was stated as 5 to 30 which allows for traction in sand or snow at the low end and efficient coasting at the higher end (the tires seemed too full during my ride tests)
  • I love that the chainring has a plastic guide because I almost dropped the chain while riding hard in my review, I do wish the guide was metal instead of plastic however because there didn’t appear to be a stand to protect it while folded (you may end up damaging it if you rest this section of the bike on the ground) and if you try to navigate over logs or big rocks it could make contact
  • The 12-magnet cadence sensor is responsive and you can override instantly with throttle power at all times, I like this kind of control but be careful because the throttle is always live… turn the bike off before trying to fold or lift it!
  • Nice kickstand at the rear, it’s mounted properly which means your left crank arm won’t collide and you can do some chain maintenance without a full stand
  • The display is large, easy to use and backlit… I love that it features a USB charging port on the left (under a protective rubber flap) so you can charge your phone, MP3 player or other portable electronic device from the main battery
  • Unlike many other crowd-funded electric bicycles, this one purports to have a basic one year warranty where they will send parts if there’s a defect, I also found that their crowd-funding documentation was more accurate and less exaggerated and hyped than some past projects
  • I really like the rear fender add-on but am not sure it will come with all versions of the MOAR, the battery box itself acts as a fender and works well enough as-is
  • Many of the cables are internally routed through the frame, this surprised me given how large and heavy it all is, I wasn’t sure if that would compromise strength but they say the bike can still hold up to 220 lbs
  • The charger is compact and lightweight, it’s not super fast at just 2 Amps but it would be easy to carry along for a refill at a friend’s house
  • To activate backlighting on the display hold up and Mode, I like that when you pull the brake levers they cut power to the motor and activate a bright mode for the rear light

Cons:

  • The bike is heavy, at 74.5 lbs I highly recommend removing the battery and front wheel before lifting (and possibly still getting a friend to help)
  • I experienced a lot of frame flex while riding, this usually happens with heavier electric bikes that have a rear mounted battery and basic suspension designs
  • The folding joint mid-frame protrudes a bit on either side and I bumped my knee while pedaling hard and turning, it’s something to be careful with to avoid bruises
  • While you can get three flavors of the MOAR (including at least two colors and multiple options) the frame sizes are all the same, it’s a taller bike that might not work for people with short legs and less upper body strength (just given the weight and balance of it)
  • Basic suspension means added weight up front and very little adjustability in the rear (with short travel), I’m not sure the added weight and compromise on frame stiffness is worth it for the rear design… you already get a lot of cushion from the large tires, I do like that the front fork can be locked out
  • Multi-step power on process requires a toggle-switch at the battery then a rubber power button at the control panel, same situation with the lights (power on the switch to activate) but I love that the key can be removed while riding
  • Consider bringing along a bungee cord to keep this thing folded during transport and storage, it doesn’t come with magnets or a rubber strap like some higher-end folding ebikes
  • Some assembly required! As with many ebikes using Kickstarter or Indiegogo the MOAR requires a bit of effort to unpack and setup… consider using a local bike shop to dial things in and prepare for a bit of hostility and resentment that you didn’t buy from them (it’s unfortunately but true), note also that shipping is $195+ depending on your location
  • The cockpit is a little crowded with the turn signals and stuff, the display isn’t removable so it could take more damage over time, while some cables are routed through the frame there’s still a big jumble of wires at the front before they enter the tubing
  • This bike positions a lot of weight high up and towards the rear, this is not ideal for handling… and while it looks like a tuff off-road machine it’s probably better suited to neighborhood riding and some light trails (note the flexy frame, thinner 9 mm skewers and low-end derailleur)
  • The grips aren’t locking which means they can twist easier if you’re really holding on tight, for a bike this large and heavy that might be more of an issue as you steer with more force
  • The bike didn’t shift especially well during my ride tests, the derailleur said 6-7 but the grip twist and rings numbered 8 so perhaps this is not final
  • I’ve noticed that some rear heavy bikes and certain frame designs can lend themselves to speed wobble (where the front wheel and bars shake as you go faster), this happened with the MOAR so be careful when you ride to use two hands

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Comments (40) YouTube Comments

Micah
8 years ago

Hi, I was looking at this or the RAPT model of this for some mainly on-road urban rides with light off road occasionally. Right now the 24/7 is around $1400 shipped and the RAPT is $2200 shipped. Is there a better all around solution ebike like this that would fold and fit in a trunk? Or for Urban fun rides is this the way to go in 2017 for under $2500?

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Court Rye
8 years ago

Hi Micah! I think your intended use is right on… this is one of the only folding fat ebikes around right now (especially full sized with suspension) and the price is solid. I lean towards the mid-drive for improved balance and was told by Ken that it would have shift sensing for reduced drivetrain wear. Not sure it’s worth the extra money for you, the hub motor is zippy and works well enough. If you’ve watched the video I think you get the downsides… if you assemble it correctly and don’t mind some flex on the trails then it might be a good fit for you :)

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MARKUS
7 years ago

If youre in a hurry to get the bike DO NOT PURCHASE . i prepaid in MARCH 2017 and STILL HAVENT recieved the bike i am devastated

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Court Rye
7 years ago

Ouch, that’s a bummer MARKUS. This is why I sometimes hesitate to review pre-production electric bikes. I cannot say what will actually happen, if the product will arrive, what will change. I am so sorry, this really feels bad to me as someone who wants to help people out. I hope your bike arrives soon, are the MOAR people in touch with you with updates at least?

Douglas Wallis
8 years ago

Ahoy Court , My Most Sincere Thanks for sharing your time , energy , and wisdom with us newbe’s . Your reviews have been extremely helpful to me , while researching my ebike choice . With regard to frame wobble at higher speeds , were you suggesting that the over-hung battery weight contributed to this wobble ? Would there be a field fix to stiffen up that rear suspension , like adding a rear package rack and moving the battery location forward and lower ?

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Court Rye
8 years ago

Hi Douglas! I believe the frame flex and wobble comes from the single tube design, possibly the folding joint, the rear suspension links (going to a heavy rear wheel) and the rack weight (including the battery pack). I think it’s this combination of having weight at the extremities and a flexible center that leads to wobble as I have felt similar things on very similar looking ebikes like the EVELO Aries. However, that bike has normal sized tires, a mid-drive motor and double tubing. It’s less flexy but I still felt it which is why the suspension link and battery position strike me as areas that contribute. Hope this helps!

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Adrian Chila Cardenosa
8 years ago

Hi Court, Ken has published an update saying that the frame flex is only from screws not being tightened properly. Does this seem feasible to you? I don’t want to get this if it wobbles at moderate-high speeds, but there is no alternative for me at the moment (as I need to find one that ships to Australia!) and this one hits the right price point. Any advice? Thanks!

Ken
8 years ago

Hi, this is Ken from MOAR. I’m currently in China overlooking the final fine tuning of the bike. I’m a big fan of EBR, and always looking forward to watching your reviews. Thanks Court, for a great and constructive review. These are as you noted prototypes that were hand-built from scratch because we designed this bike basically from the ground up and these bikes have been used heavily in shoots and tested to death. We ran hundreds of miles on these things to make sure we got the bike right. We love the fact that you noticed the very special attention we paid to making this bike as safe as possible on the road, with our Dual Projection LED Headlights, Integrated LED Brake Light and Turn Signals. And even the loud electric horn is definitely intentional and necessary for riders meshing up with other traffic, rather than just riding in the wild. These are standard features you won’t find on any other ebikes right now.

As you mentioned in your review, there are 3 major areas that we needed to address. 1. The rear wheel assembly. 2. The brakes. 3. The suspension. First thing is we have seriously beefed up the frame, especially in regards to the rear wheel assembly and the swing arms. And we will be going through proper stress tests to ensure that the final frames are solid. Second, we are outfitting them with 180mm brake disc and hydraulic brakes. Thirdly, the suspensions will be an oil damped front fork and rear shock.

We designed the bike basically as an all-around bike with a lot of thought going into it to be fun to ride over the weekend, practical for daily commuting use and designed with road safety in mind since more and more people will be riding these as a commuting solution over city streets rather than just as weekend toys. Finally, yes, we do have shift sensing on the 750w mid-drive model, sorry I forgot to tell you.

We will be coming up with the final pre-production master soon and would love to have you run another test on it, together with the mid-drive model that you might have watched the video of running up the stairs and pulling an SUV from a standstill.” Thanks again for coordinating that review with us!

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Court Rye
8 years ago

This is excellent feedback Ken, I’m so glad you took the time to read and watch my review of the bike and have solutions in mind for some of the concerns. I’m excited for you guys (looks like you are successfully funded on Indiegogo!) and would love to stay in touch as the final product is delivered. Again, thanks for making yourself available and being responsive :)

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MikeC
6 years ago

Ken, I think it’s important to get a production bike back to these folks for a follow-up review so that they can report that the issues have been fixed.

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MOAR_Ken
8 years ago

Hi Court, I love how passionate you and your fans are about bikes, your feedbacks are invaluable to our improving our products.

After seeing the way our bike shook in the video I asked my LA team to look into it and they found out what the problem was. They are implementing a quick fix and hopefully we will have something to report back to you guys tmrw.

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Court Rye
8 years ago

Cool, thanks for the update Ken, I wish you luck and appreciate your involvement with the comments here, on YouTube and in the forums :)

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David Elton
8 years ago

I’m strongly considering the Rapt version of this. While watching the video I was definitely concerned about the wobble as I’ll be commuting in the early morning when there’s little to no traffic on the streets and down some steep hills so I definitely don’t want to experience any wobble or flex. After seeing Ken pop in and claim he’s addressing the wobble, definitely comforts me and makes me feel like the final version will have it addressed.

Also, i have about 30 stairs to climb to get to my front door. If I’m able to ride up those stairs that would be absolutely killer and make this a slam dunk as carrying it all the way up would be a real bummer. As it is I’ll be folding and storing it below and just taking the battery up to my house.

The other thing that is tipping me towards this bike is the awesome lighting situation. Since I’ll be riding a lot in the early dark hours of the morning, I like the idea of really good lighting, especially at the price point. I just want to make sure that if I’m tipping 28 mph, that I’m not feeling the wobble.

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Court Rye
8 years ago

Hi David! I’m pretty sure you’ll feel some frame flex but the wobble of wheels might be lessened with some updates (and if you take care of the bike better than their demo model). It’s a neat concept and I like the lights too, the up-stairs maneuver could be difficult if they are narrow, be careful but let me know how it turns out if you go for it :P

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Ken MacLean
8 years ago

Court,

I live in western Canada and I am exploring ebikes to extend my mountain rides with some electricity as I age. Your review is excellent and helpful as I investigate crowdsourced bikes as an alternative to brand names. I greatly appreciate the completeness and usefulness of your review.

Thanks,
Ken

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Court Rye
8 years ago

Awesome! Thanks for the positive feedback Ken, I appreciate you taking the time to comment and let me know that this was useful. Feel free to chime in with more comments or in the forums when you find the best bike for your needs… and have fun :D

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Dennis
8 years ago

Hi Court, just stumbled on this review and site. Fantastic review and appreciate your honesty and thoroughness. Will check out your other reviews, in search of my first electric bike. Thanks again.

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Court Rye
8 years ago

Hi Dennis! Thanks for the compliment, I try to be fair and deliver a constructive “review” but honestly have only limited time and my own past experiences to draw from. People who actually buy the bikes sometimes comment and the forum can be a useful resource as well. Glad you’ve enjoyed it so far :)

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Ed
6 years ago

Still waiting for bike. Over a year now. Moar does not respond to emails to their contact area on their website. No updates, no communication.

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court
6 years ago

Man, that really sucks! I’m so sorry to hear that they’ve let you down, Ed. Would you please contact me via the contact page here and maybe I can put you in touch with the company or help out in some way. I’m really sorry man :(

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Edouard
6 years ago

After 1 year You haven’t still received your bike!? How is it possible!? I’ve looked for video with moar ebike with purchaser but i haven’t found! So can we trust in this new company!? Thanks

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Court
6 years ago

Hi Edouard, I’m not sure where MOAR is at in terms of delivery, new products, company operation etc. because we haven’t been in touch. I hope that this review and the EBR forums allow you to learn more, and I welcome your input :)

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Stephane
6 years ago

I bought the MOAR RAPT2 in June 2017. I received it more than a year later. Besides the known inconvenient weight, I experienced that in high gear, the chain keeps derailing when I ride on bumpy terrain. Having to stop every time to put the chain back is a hassle… but that is not the worst part.

The battery is faulty and its current variates so much that it sometimes switches off while riding or will not even turn on even if fully charged. Now MOAR says this is covered by warranty. They have replied a few months ago that they will send me a new one which I found to be fair. However, since then and following many messages, I have had no response whatsoever.

My bike is out of order since. I cannot use it. MOAR has the worst customer service. Does anyone have the same issue? How was this resolved by MOAR? I regret my $3000 USD purchase.

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Court
6 years ago

That’s such a bummer, Stephane! I’m so sorry that the bike has been out of commission. Since doing this review, I haven’t heard much from MOAR. Lately, I’ve been focusing more on established companies and doing less crowd funding stuff because it seems like there’s a higher chance of the bike not working out… but on the other hand, I do want to help clarify the offerings, and set a perspective for what they say will be delivered. I guess I just feel bad for you, but perhaps you could get some help fixing the battery pack from a third party company like FTH Power. I visited them recently and it seems like a good outfit.

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Troy
6 years ago

Same battery issue with mine as well. I have the 24/7 model and I’m about 200 kms on the odometer. I’m going to test the voltage on the battery when I get home but the symptoms are the same. It cuts off after about 20 seconds. It was fine for the first 150 kms. But now its constant. I keep thinking its a connection issue because if I wiggle the battery the back light comes on (not the battery light, it never goes off unless I press the rubber button).

I would say there is no support for these bikes. No location that I can find online where I can find support. What to try, how its supposed to work. MOAR only has some instagram videos showing how to do a few things. I have the bike rack but I have NO idea how to install it, no instructions anywhere. Heck, I can’t even find a picture of it installed…

All in with shipping it has cost $2000 CAN which is amazing for what you get. I commute an hour to work. I realy hope I can figure out the battery issue or get a warranty replacement. I know getting replies from MOAR has been excruciatingly painful.

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Stephane
6 years ago

I have found something that helps. If you disconnect the battery from the socket when you are not riding, you get more life from it. Let me know if it makes a difference for you.

Troy
6 years ago

I fixed! I had to use a small screwdriver on the female side of the battery connector. The male prongs were not properly held in place inside the female connector. I had to pry the little metal pieces (that act like springs) up, so they didn’t lie as flat. With a more solid connection the loss of power is fixed!

I still have concerns of it being an issue again in the future. A loose connection could limit current flow and cause all sorts of weird power issues.

Thanks for the tip about disconnecting. Considering I’m always charging the battery or I’ve removed it so it doesn’t get stolen, its never an issue.

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Roberto
5 years ago

Hi just received my sun & fun. Unfortunately after two day use my C600E computer is turning off automatically. Can anyone help? Thank you, Roberto

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Court
5 years ago

Oh man! That’s a bummer. Sorry to hear that the bike isn’t working after such a short time. I don’t know much about that display or this bike, but perhaps someone else will chime in, maybe you can reach out to the company, or you can post in the “other brands” section of the forum and specify the display again. I hope this helps, the more details about what is going on and the brand of the display, the better people will be able to search and try to help.

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Mel Burbank
5 years ago

Hey Court, I too waited longer than 2 years for my MOAR 24/7 and many times wondered if I would ever see the promised ebike I paid for. After many, many delayed excuses and missed deadlines, I finally received my bike in February and had my local bike shop assemble and tune it. I went with the upgraded 750w motor, DNM suspension, and 2 17ah batteries.

My experience so far has been lots and lots of fun with very few issues. I am one of the lucky ones up to this point. I have put over 500 miles on and mostly ride gravel roads, dirt trails, and single track. I really enjoy the great suspension and decent brakes. I have easily ridden over snow, sand, big cobble gravel and through mud bogs. Night riding is a blast with the aircraft-bright headlights. When the wife and I go riding around our local lake, I do not use any pedal assist while pedaling the 65+ lb beast for 7.5 miles. Good work out!

Lots of heads turn when I fly by with a huge grin on my face and lots of interest is expressed. I tell interested folks of my enjoyment of the product and my experience with the company. I have had a few occasions to contact Ken and/or MOAR and generally receive a response in a few days. Although promised a refund on a non operational GPS tracking system option ($139.00), and a replacement derailleur mountI (my bad-not MOAR), I have yet to see a check or a part in my mailbox. If MOAR is to ever become a viable ebike retailer, they have a very long way to go in developing customer service. I really do enjoy the bike and have yet to see anything else quite like it. And as an added bonus….. no wobble.

Lets see how I feel in another thousand miles.
Mel Burbank

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Court
5 years ago

Hi Mel, thanks for sharing your experience with us, it sounds like you have a great attitude and enjoy riding… though I wish the purchase and support had been better for you. It’s always tricky reviewing an unreleased product from a new company, thanks for filling in some of the gaps so they can improve and other would-be customers can get a deeper perspective :)

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J.R. FORTENBERRY
5 years ago

No one is mentioning the speed wobble issues. I think it’s a design flaw in the frame and causing it and I can not believe this thing was put into final production. Look at the first 25 seconds of the video then read the comments. Unbelievable…

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Troy
5 years ago

It has a speed wobble of death if you let go of the handle bars (like in that video). I’ve heard its because of the weight distribution. I’ve put 1400 km on my 24/7 model and the power cuts out at strange times. but at least once every 20 kms. I’ve done rides in snow and its only good if the snow is less than 3 inches deep. The accelerator is not variable, its ON or OFF. It also cuts off the engine when you start to brake which I find very annoying because sometimes I want to brake just slightly. Instead it brakes and kills the motor so it kind of double-brakes which screws up any momentum you have.

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Grehidy
5 years ago

I bought my Moar bike back in June 15 2018, last time I heard from them was October 30th. I’m getting really scared that they are not going to give my bike. what should I do?

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Court
5 years ago

Ahh! That is such a bummer, I’m so sorry to hear that they haven’t been reachable and that you haven’t received the product. I am not in touch with them and do not have a real answer for you. However, we occasionally get ebikes donated for reviews, and it may be possible for us to donate one to you after we review it, so at least you have a bike. Please use the contact page (linked in the footer) to reach out to us if you’d be open to that kind of help. Sorry friend :(

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4 years ago

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Court
4 years ago

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Bob
4 years ago

After ordering an E bike from Moar a year ago I’ve received no reply’s to emails either to Moar or written directly to Ken. Reading customers problems with quality, lack of parts availability and no production date (they were to be delivered 12-20) I now realize that this is a total scam. Whatever prototype was tested seems to have been built for the purpose of exhibiting the ability to build a few for one reason, to sell a non deliverable idea. On paper this bike looks great. The bikes made for demonstration on YouTube have to be those made for showing what Moar can make, but now I’m questioning why go through that trouble if they are never going to manufacture them. Their marketing is through crowd sourcing, offering no commitment for responsibility.

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Court
4 years ago

Yeah, I don’t know the details about the company… I took them at their word when conducting this review (and pointed out many concerns at the time, even just with the design). These days I am doing fewer crowd funded ebikes because sometimes they fail to deliver or change the end result in material ways. There are many other great ebikes worth considering, even cool futuristic ones like Juiced Bikes, Super 73, and SONDORS.

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