Add-E 600W Kit Review

Add E 600w Electric Bike Kit Review
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Summary

  • Exceedingly compact, light weight and easy to remove (for temporary unpowered use) though it does produce more noise than most of the ebike kits I've tested
  • The bottle style battery pack is beautiful, the cap twists to add power at 50 watt increments up to 250 making it legal internationally, limited top speed of 15.5 mph
  • Lots of optional accessories including a twist or trigger throttle, the included five magnet pedelec disc isn't super responsive but works well and qualifies as Class 1
  • Compatible with a wide range of bicycle types but may require extra work to install (completely removing the bottom bracket), solid six month battery warranty

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Video Review

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Introduction

Make:

Add-E

Model:

600W

Price:

$1,251

Suggested Use:

Neighborhood, Urban

Electric Bike Class:

Speed Pedalec (Class 3), Throttle on Demand (Class 2)
Learn more about Ebike classes

Warranty:

6 Month Battery, 2 Year Mechanical Parts

Availability:

United States, Worldwide

Model Year:

20152016

Bicycle Details

Battery Weight:

2.5 lbs (1.13 kg)

Motor Weight:

1.9 lbs (0.86 kg)

Geometry Measurements:

Motor Dimensions: 80 mm x 70 mm x 70 mm

Accessories:

EasyDo Bottle Cage for Battery, Additional Charger $80, Additional Battery $296, Universal Bottle Cage Mount $23, Crank Puller Tool $23, Brompton Specific Mounting Kit $182

Other:

Compact 2 Amp Charger 0.6 lbs (0.27 kg), Removable Battery Pack

Electronic Details

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Gearless Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

600 watts

Battery Voltage:

22.2 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

6 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

133.2 wh

Charge Time:

2 hours

Estimated Min Range:

6 miles (10 km)

Estimated Max Range:

16 miles (26 km)

Drive Mode:

Cadence Sensing Pedal Assist, Twist Throttle, Trigger Throttle (5 Magnet Pedelec Disc)

Top Speed:

28 mph (45 kph)

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Written Review

The Add-E kit has always impressed me with its compact size and weight. The motor unit can be quickly and easily removed and even the battery pack (which resembles a traditional water bottle) can be taken off and replaced with an actual bottle for drinking purposes or you could get a second holster and double your range for ~$300 and ~2.5 lbs extra. Basically, you can switch between an ebike and your traditional pedal powered bike in under three minutes… but even if you decided to leave the motor and battery connected at all times, the total weight is just five pounds and the friction drive canister doesn’t produce any drag because it “floats” in front of your rear wheel, never making contact unless you hit a small bump. Once the system is switched on and the control unit senses wheel movement and pedal assist or throttle input, the motor spins into action sending it backwards with centripetal force, engaging the tire and propelling you forward. It’s a beautiful system and priced at just over one thousand dollars (for the 250 watt version) or $1,251 for the 650 watt being covered here, it’s one of the more affordable kits I’ve seen that’s all inclusive.

So is the 600 watt Add-E kit faster more powerful than the international 250 watt kit? The short answer is not really. From what I can tell (using both kits, weighing all of the components and using a cycle computer) it appears that the motor hardware is the same, along with the battery pack, and all you’re getting is an unlimited top speed. While it is possible to go faster, it just doesn’t feel much different and still struggles with hills and even grass. The Add-E kit takes a while to ramp up speed and my hopes of using this off-road were dashed after a lackluster urban experience. So maybe it’s worth the extra $250 if you truly just need to go a little faster when riding but the limitations of the battery size remain, your range may decrease to just six miles per charge when riding at “high speed” but I’d still wager a maximum range in the lowest pedal assist mode at 16 miles. There are five power levels to choose from using the twist cap on the bottle battery (gently twist to the left to turn it off and to the right for more power) but without a display it’s difficult to tell how much battery power remains and I noticed that even when it’s “off” the red LED on the base of the motor unit continues to flash which may draw power and run it completely dry. I recommend taking the battery off the bike when not in use.

One of the greatest challenges to overcome when reviewing this kit was installation… but only when using the carbon fiber bottom bracket option. If your bike has a kickstand plate behind the bottom bracket then it’s a breeze. The length of the video review for this kit is a testate to what Sam and I went through to prep our bike platform and ultimately install it and while you may not have quite as many steps as us… it’s still time consuming and special tools may be required such as a bottom bracket puller. Frankly, I’d just ask my local shop to install it for me. The second big challenge relating to installation was setting the unit for high speed operation. When I received it the top speed was only ~15.5 mph (25 km/h) which was confusing and disapointing. Nothing in the manual I received explained how to change it so I called ELV Motors in Santa Clara, CA (the official distributor) and Nate helped me out over the phone. In short… turn the battery up to full power (five clicks to the right) then take it off the bike. Now unplug the white connector from the Add-E motor unit while leaving the black power cable plugged in. Next, insert the small speed chip into the slot that had the white cable in it before then plug the bottle battery back onto the mount. Look at the flashing red LED light on the base of the Add-E and confirm that it’s flashing in intervals of six (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 wait 1, 2, 3… and so on). This is your confirmation that the kit is now “unlocked” for higher speed. Frankly I wish this had been done before I received the kit because the chip is so small and easy to lose and the lack of instructions… hours wasted :(

Note that instead of a seamless look, our final Add-E electric bike demo bike was a bit tackier appearance due to the wire running from the control unit at the motor up to the handle bars for the throttle. I received both a trigger and twist throttle for testing but went with a trigger to leave room for the gear shifters near the right and left grips. For me it was worth it because I like to use throttles sometimes and wanted to test the motor on its own vs. pedaling to see how fast it would go. Due to the safety setup (where the motor won’t start even in throttle mode unless the bike is going 2+ mph) the throttle wasn’t immediately useful but did make filming easier.

While I’m still very impressed with the price, size and ease of use after installation… the Add-E kit remains noisy and I feel the 600 watt rating does not accurately reflect the difference in power or speed coming from the 250 watt version. This is basically a 20 mph kit and possibly 250 watts nominal up to 600 watts peak but with pretty low torque. Still, I’d rather have an unlimited kit than one that cuts out at 15.5 mph even if that means my battery drains a little quicker. If we look at my ideal commuting setup then it would cost ~$1,600 for the system with one extra battery plus the price of a bike so it’s not much less expensive than a purpose built ebike that’s much powerful and capable of longer rides. However, this is one of the few kits that can be mounted on a super efficient road bike platform and that’s exciting. There are very few kits that offer what the Add-E does and if they could make it silent I would be twice as interested and excited. It’s a beautiful system and one that sort of grows on you after the initial shock of the sound and lackluster power. It’s going to work better on some bikes than others and is probably best suited to light weight riders.

Pros:

  • The bottle style battery is extremely convincing and I love the way it operates (twist the cap to the right for additional power (there’s a difference between level 1 and level 5 but the middle all feels similar)
  • It’s great that this kit can work as pedal assist only or you can opt for twist and trigger throttle options depending on your needs (throttle mode will likely drain the battery faster if you choose not to pedal as actively and requires the bike to be going ~2 mph to activate)
  • The kit is extremely light weight (~5.5 lbs for all pieces combined) and minimal in appearance, the basic pedal-assist only setup has only one wire and keeps the handlebar area of your bike clean, if you add a throttle you’ll have one wire going from the battery area to your bars
  • Once the mounting plate has been installed, it’s pretty easy to remove the Add-E motor by loosening one bolt and unplugging the power… then simply take the bottle battery off and you’re back to a normal bike
  • The bottle cage battery adapter can be used with traditional water bottles (if you take the battery and Add-E off) but the bottle won’t sit perfectly flat at the bottom due to the plug interface
  • You can get additional batteries for ~$300 to increase range and since they fit into normal bottle cages you could potentially have two mounted to the bike if you have bosses on the downtube and seat tube, each pack only weighs ~2.5 pounds which is nice
  • Because the motor and battery are mounted at the middle of the frame you get excellent balance and reduce unsprung weight compared with a hub motor… that said, I don’t think it would work well with a full suspension bike due to wheel movement and limited travel of the Add-E

Cons:

  • To unlock the higher speed of this Add-E kit I had to use a little computer chip that was included but there were no instructions… In short, remove the battery and unplug the white cable then insert the chip there, now turn the battery all the way up to level five (twist to the right) then plug it into the bottle cage interface, now look for six red flashes (repeating) at the base of the motor then unplug the battery from the bike and you should be good
  • The battery design is cool but didn’t appear to have an auto time-off so if you forget to manually twist it to off you may drain the battery slowly, without a display unit or lights to show that it’s on it’s just easier to overlook
  • Despite being rated at 600 watts and labeled as a speed pedelec, this version resembles the base 250 watt kit in terms of performance, I feel that it may be the same motor but have the top speed limit removed
  • There are no display readouts so you can’t tell how full the battery pack is, how fast you’re going, how far you’ve traveled or anything else… you have to estimate or get a separate cycle computer but that still won’t display your battery
  • The battery capacity offered by this kit is extremely small compared to most kits and bikes I review (about 30% of average) so the range is lower, but it’s also much lighter than traditional offerings
  • You absolutely need space to mount the bottle cage but Add-E does sell an adapter kit for those without threaded bosses on their seat tube or downtube
  • Depending on the frame design of your bicycle this kit may be easy to install (using a kickstand plate just behind the bottom bracket) or difficult (mounting Carbon fiber plates directly to the bottom bracket) it took us several hours and special tools to get it working
  • The five magnet pedelec disc isn’t as responsive as a 12 magnet disc and you don’t get brake levers with integrated motor inhibitors so there are brief moments where you may be braking against the motor
  • If you mount this kit using the kickstand plate you may no longer be able to use the actual kickstand and your bike may tip… consider an aftermarket chain-stay mounting kickstand

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Add-E 250W Kit Review

  • MSRP: $1,012
  • MODEL YEAR: 2015, 2016

Exceedingly compact, light weight and easy to remove (for temporary unpowered use) though it does produce more noise than most of the ebike kits I've tested. The bottle style battery pack is beautiful, the cap twists to add power at 50…...

Greg Ritter
11 months ago

Thanks for your review of the 600W Add-e kit. Always learn alot and helps in making decisions about an ebike. Like the idea of how it works, but for price and what it actually does? ? ?
Maybe the go-e on bike kit will be the ticket. Sounds like its about half the price and comes with an app to keep track of speed, and adjust the electronic features. It claims to be 800W. Hopefully those guys will send you one to try and inform the American market about its capacity. Will keep watching and reading your reviews.

Court Rye
11 months ago

Sounds good Greg, I'm excited to check it out and compare the sound, power and speed... Hopefully I'll get one soon ;)

Greg Harm
10 months ago

Court points out this example of the major pitfalls of this industry, i.e., when you spend over a $1000 for a kit, you don't want to have to do a great deal of fabrication.

These startup manufturing companies in this industry have the best of intentions, but this particular kit seemed to have a dozen or more pitfalls that required calls to California to resolve. When you add in limited business hours, and phone hold times, one would need an infinite well of patience to complete the instsllation of this motor.

It's important to note that this professional bike mechanic had far more bicycle tools thsn the common cyclist, but still needed to physically take the bike to a formal shop (and very few of us live or work next door to one.)

That said, I'm old school--in that if I buy something and have to wait a week or more for it to arrive, I want the ability to bolt it on and go. AT LEAST the first weekend after it arrives. But in this case, he had to jump through a host of hoops to learn all of the steps that they had failed to include instructions for. It's probablt a safe bet that there are still steps in the installation that this company didn't bother to tell him about.

Finally, the lack of any meter, to show the operator how much power remains, or indicators to inform the user what power level he ir she is using, and the noise: any one of these would be a deal breaker for me.

Since the ebike industry is still in its infancy, it is plagued by undercapitalized rookies that will most likely be gone a year after you buy the product. Thanks, EBR for helping consumers make informed ebike product purchases, and especially for giving consumers the straight market analysis as to whether a product has value--or is just not worth it to have to practically rebuild it prior to its first use.

Court Rye
10 months ago

I appreciate the innovation and admire the small size of this thing but yes... it seems to require more effort in some situations and the 600 vs. 250 watt versions seemed very similar, to me that was the biggest surprise.

MikeB
8 months ago

It is very interesting imo but does need some more refining. I would love to have a very light weight, easy mount on regular bike e assist. Make it good for MOST riders 10-15 mile rides with no fear because the bike is still easily ridden without assist. Big huge motors that can climb the steepest hills with huge heavy batteries are NOT the only thing needed or wanted.

Court Rye
8 months ago

I'm totally with you... I'd love a light weight QUIET ebike kit. Even something with 180 watts and a five mile range, I'd use it sparingly but feel good getting up hills or pressing through wind. Hope we see something like this in the future. I think Add-E could do it if they just made it quieter.

Jean cleverson da silva
6 months ago

Vivo em Brasil estado de Rondônia adoraria compra um kit add-e para colocá em minha bike enfelismente vivemos longe de tudo tipo de recurso e tudo e muito difícil consequir coisa de qualidade achei maravilhoso este produto e sei que vai ser um sucesso de vendas E tomara que logo logo Venha para perto de nós porque eu sou um apaixonado por bike elétrica.

Court Rye
6 months ago

Eu não vender esses kits mas talvez você pode comprar um do distribuidor aqui nos EUA e tê-lo enviado? Tente entrar em contato ELV Motors em Santa Clara, CA. Seu site é www.elvmotors.com

Bereket Tesfay
5 months ago

Add-E 250W Kit Review I want to get one but I don't no how?

Court Rye
5 months ago

Hi Bereket, not sure where you live but I believe in the US there's a dealer called ELV Motors in Santa Clara California that sells this kit. They might even be willing to ship it. Hope this helps!

Rick
4 months ago

Horrible test. Put it on a descent road bike or at least put a smooth tire on the cheapo mountain bike you put it on. That tire is horrible for the motor to grip. It makes a ton of extra noise also. Use your head...

Court Rye
4 months ago

Hi Rick, I appreciate your feedback. Sometimes my equipment and time are limited due to the travel required to find and review bikes. Did you see the review I shot of the Add-E 250W? I used a more appropriate bike there but was hoping that this bing the 600 watt version, it could go off-road and be like the lightest, cheapest way to create an electric trail bike. Unfortunately, things just didn't work out that way... Anyway, I'll keep your suggestions in mind for next time :)

Gordon Law
2 weeks ago

People tend to cut zip ties with the blade of the snips (scissors) or pliers cutting the longest portion of the tie from one end to the opposite. That almost always leaves a residual piece of plastic which is usually sticking out and is as sharp as a knife blade. However, if you turn the cutting tool 90 degrees and cut the material from both sides to the center, you will find that the cut will be flush without a protruding edge to cut anybody. One of my old telephone bosses taught me this proceedure and the ties were no longer a danger to any of our employees working on our cables.

Court Rye
2 weeks ago

Interesting, appreciate your tip Gordon! Thanks for sharing :)

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J Dawg
3 days ago

Maybe someone else has told you by now, but you should know you had your bike in the highest gear the entire time. Learn to shift, bro. Might make your life a little easier ;)

Rocky
2 days ago

That is not true. There is no any gearing system to this thing, and the bike’s gearing is not involved in the friction system. However despite its indecent noise, the power and the throttle variations (clicks) are audible, see min 23:53
Whatever angle you look at, this 1300$ sold thing just never function properly. An endless trouble.

Uncle Phil
3 days ago

That's one "mechanic" who's never getting his hands on anything I own.

Peter Piper
7 days ago

Can this be installed on a single gear bike?

Peter Piper
6 days ago

Thanks, Don!

Don
6 days ago

+Peter Piper NO! But you can read some more comments down in this review and you'll find out and can judge by yourself... Good luck, it's a rip off.

kf4dcy
2 weeks ago

that will not work on my trike. I've no need for this one. I also will run and engine too.

VepBuyR //
2 weeks ago

i did not want to hurt you. but i ve seen dozen videos with the same result.

VepBuyR //
2 weeks ago

why nobody shows his bike in action? the only thing you alow us to apriciate is the rotating rare wheel in the best case :( if the construction is able to ride and accelerate at all?

Alex Rutledge
2 weeks ago

That tire tread does not go well with that device, get a more bald tread. Besides, that other tread is more suited for like trail riding...

Moon Line
2 weeks ago

I like you reviews, but I don't like that you have some gay style in your behavior.

Karen Nakamura
2 weeks ago

Looks super fragile. One small rock while MTBing or one rainstorm and it looks toast. If you're going mid-drive, save your money and get at BBS-HD.

George Tan Yee Zua
3 weeks ago

where to buy this add-e, please send me link

Don
3 weeks ago

+George Tan Yee Zua you can buy it at add-e.at
You should buy more than one kit, the price will be going up because of its wonderful performances.

David Bezinque
4 weeks ago

I believe the performance would be better with a smoother tire. The noise would also be greatly reduced.

Don
4 weeks ago

+David Bezinque You are absolutely right. But smoother tire = more tire wear = more $ per Km. The noise would not change with smoother tires, because it comes from that tiny engine who suffers and shouts rather than the friction of rubber against rubber, which is not the case here. Actually the tire is in rubber, yes, but not the roller against it.

2233golf2
4 weeks ago

Sorry...but to me this looks like a rip off....this motor never has 500 watts and sounds horrible..... I bought a pro set -real 500 watts ,great display, control unit , complete rear wheel with the Bafang motor,spokes -everything ready to go....together with a 13,6wh battery it was 1280$ two years ago...and it still works like a charm after 6300 miles....

Rocky
4 weeks ago

If this thing was powerful, made of very good quality materials, if it had enough torque, was silent, waterproof, durable, had a display, a battery lock, with serious people respecting the warrantee behind, and didn't cost that much on tire... Then we could say that its priced a bit high. But it doesn't come with any of these points and it is a whole heap of trouble stead.. Even the sample they sent for this review didn't deliver the supposed power! So I agree that it's one of the real rip offs on the net.

Don
4 weeks ago

+2233golf2 . You saw right. It actually is an organised rip-off by very malevolent people. The product does not correspond to what is advertised, it has no power, it is noisy, terribly bad quality Asiatic cheapo materials are used to make it, and the warranty is kind of nonexistant. Tell a Friend, help the consumer...

John Thomas
1 month ago

I think this video could have left out the entire first part about trying to get the bottom bracket off... very boring... The motor itself is a rip off, and I really, really hope this company doesn't get any customers, because if they do buy this, they are being ripped off.

Don
4 weeks ago

+John Thomas . This is not just a simple rip-off. It actually is a very thought and organized swindle which is not only limited to its extortionately price but also to its extreme poor quality, dubious origins and absence of warranty. What you get does not have anyone of the promised things. A simple example is in this same review: It is unable to do 45 km/h...
Don't just remember this product, but also the name and faces of those behind it (they call it their team at add-e.at).
Tell a friend...

John Thomas
1 month ago

11:10 when the mechanic talks about cable ties - why not use clear tape? (Or black tape if you aren't bothered about it being visible). Book repair tape is plenty strong for this sort of thing, and you can't hurt your hands on it. Secondly this is a RIPOFF - what a ridiculous price for a tiny little motor - is it made of gold?

Steve Walther
1 month ago

buy an electric scooter from walmart for $💯. then weld it to your bike.

Biswajit Pradhan
1 month ago

costly then ready-made bike

Don
1 month ago

Yes but add-e has some great sophistication and avant-gardism like : for $ 1300, it has no power, charge or speed indicator. And costs 0.46 € per km in tire wear.

lefthandedpolack
1 month ago

looked pretty cool til i heard it running lol

Don
4 weeks ago

Well, it's not necessary to do so, but have a look at minutes 25:00 & 26:49 when you have a minute.

Keith kowalski
1 month ago

i didnt stick around for a half hour.

Don
1 month ago

The noise is 93 to 105 dB.
See minute 25:00 & 26:49.
"For a deaf person it makes sens", like says this review.

Donald Leon
1 month ago

Nice invention

Don
1 month ago

+Donald Leon . But unfortunately it is not.
It actually could have been the worst e-bike in the history of the world. But it is not an e-bike! It is just a gadget of inexplicably poor quality and functionality, sold extortionately expensive. Please appreciate the noise at minute 25:00 & 26:49 and also notice that it was incapable to deliver the power it was supposed to do.
Take Care, Not Risk.

AH AH
1 month ago

ummm no thanks i think il continue riding my 1000W FWD hobbyking powered el-cheapo monster =) Still nice to see they develop ebikes more:P

Don
1 month ago

+ AH AH .You are entirely right. Actually add-e is a poor, expensive and a bad quality product. It does not correspond to what is pretended (advertised). There are nearly 1,000,000 visitors in this very correct and realistic review and apart from some pawns of add-e who try to interfere in comments, there is no one with a positive opinion about it.