AddMotoR MOTAN M150-P7 Review

Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Electric Bike Review
Addmotor Motan M150 P7
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Bafang Fatbike Motor 750 Watts
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Removable 48 Volt Battery
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Lcd Display Ergonomic Grips Telescoping Stem
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Handlebar
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Lcd Closeup
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Spanninga Trendo Headlight
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Blaze Lite Rear Light
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Front Wheel Mini Fat Tire
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Kenda Fat 20 Inch Tires
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Button Pad Control Ring
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Steel Front Fender
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Twist Throttle And 7 Speed Shimano Shifter
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Tektro Mechanical Brake With Rubberized Edge And Bell
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Color Matched Saddle
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Chainring 48t With Plastic Guide
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Hl1 Plastic Folding Pedals
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Mozo Spring Suspension Fork
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Seven Speed Drivetrain Shimano Tourney
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Electric Bike Left Side
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 2 5 Amp Ebike Charger
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Electric Bike Review
Addmotor Motan M150 P7
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Bafang Fatbike Motor 750 Watts
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Removable 48 Volt Battery
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Lcd Display Ergonomic Grips Telescoping Stem
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Handlebar
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Lcd Closeup
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Spanninga Trendo Headlight
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Blaze Lite Rear Light
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Front Wheel Mini Fat Tire
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Kenda Fat 20 Inch Tires
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Button Pad Control Ring
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Steel Front Fender
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Twist Throttle And 7 Speed Shimano Shifter
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Tektro Mechanical Brake With Rubberized Edge And Bell
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Color Matched Saddle
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Chainring 48t With Plastic Guide
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Hl1 Plastic Folding Pedals
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Mozo Spring Suspension Fork
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Seven Speed Drivetrain Shimano Tourney
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 Electric Bike Left Side
Addmotor Motan M150 P7 2 5 Amp Ebike Charger

Summary

  • Fat tire folding electric bike that comes in four different color schemes with steel fenders that are less likely to rattle when riding but could rust if scratched
  • Integrated headlight provides ample illumination, 750 watt fatbike specific hub motor offers good power and wheel strength, 552 watt hour battery is larger than average for a folder
  • Comfortable ride with plush saddle, ergonomic grips, and front suspension offering 100 mm of travel, telescoping stem helps to accommodate a wide range of rider heights
  • Not especially lightweight (even though it looks compact), it's a fun bike that should perform well on loose terrain like snow, sand, mud, and gravel but lack of bosses for bottle cage and racks does limit utility a bit
Warning, in some configurations this electric bike is classified as a moped or motorcycle and may not be ridden on cycling trails or paths. It may require licensing, insurance and lights when used on public roads.

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Introduction

Make:

AddMotoR

Model:

MOTAN M150-P7

Price:

$1,599

Body Position:

Forward, Upright

Suggested Use:

Sand and Snow, Trail

Electric Bike Class:

Throttle on Demand (Class 2)
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Warranty:

1 Year Comprehensive

Availability:

United States, Worldwide

Model Year:

2018

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

60.7 lbs (27.53 kg) (27.53 kg)

Battery Weight:

7.8 lbs (3.53 kg) (3.54 kg)

Motor Weight:

10.14 lbs (4.59 kg) (4.6 kg)

Frame Material:

Aluminum Alloy

Frame Sizes:

18 in (45.72 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

Unfolded Measurements: 18” Seat Tube, 25” Reach, 25.5” Stand Over Height, 23” Width, 67.5” Length, Folded: 45” Length, 16” Width, 29.5” Height

Frame Types:

High-Step

Frame Colors:

Black, Blue, Orange, Green

Frame Fork Details:

MOZO Spring Suspension, 100 mm Travel, Compression Adjust with Lockout, Preload Adjust, 135 mm Hub Spacing, 9 mm Skewer with Bolts

Frame Rear Details:

170 m Hub Spacing, 9 mm Skewer with Bolts

Attachment Points:

Fender Bosses

Gearing Details:

7 Speed 1x7 Shimano Tourney Derailleur, Shimano MF-TZ21 Cassette 14-28 Tooth

Shifter Details:

Shimano SIS Index Thumb Shifter on Right

Cranks:

Prowheel, Alloy, 170 mm Length, 48 Tooth Chainring with Plastic Chain Guide

Pedals:

HLI Plastic Folding with Serrations

Headset:

Neco, Threadless Internal Cups, Straight 1-1/8”

Stem:

Alloy, Folding, 320 mm Base Height, Telescoping Height (0 mm to 130 mm), Quick Release Handlebar Clamp, 31.8 mm Clamp Diameter

Handlebar:

Alloy, Mid Rise, 580 mm Length

Brake Details:

Tektro Mechanical Disc with 160 mm Rotors, Tektro Four-Finger Levers with Rubberized Grip and Motor Inhibitors

Grips:

Ergonomic, Stitched Faux Leather, Black with Red Stitching

Saddle:

AddMotoR Branded, Relaxed with Foam, Black with Orange Accent

Seat Post:

Alloy

Seat Post Length:

350 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

27.2 mm

Rims:

Alloy, Double Walled, Punched Out, 36 Hole

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 13 Gauge, Black with Nipples

Tire Brand:

Kenda Krusade Sport, 20” x 4” (98-406)

Wheel Sizes:

20 in (50.8cm)

Tire Details:

5 to 30 PSI, 0.4 to 2.1 BAR

Tube Details:

Schrader Valve

Accessories:

Steel Mud Guards, Steel Derailleur Guard, Adjustable Length Kickstand at Rear, Spanninga Trendo Integrated Headlight, Blaze-Lite Independent Detachable Seat Post Mounted Backlight (Three AAA Batteries), Integrated Bell on Left Brake Lever Cluster

Other:

Locking Removable Seat Tube Mounted Battery Pack, 1.6 lb 2.5 Amp Charger

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bafang

Motor Type:

Rear-Mounted Geared Hub
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Motor Nominal Output:

750 watts

Motor Peak Output:

1000 watts

Motor Torque:

80 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Panasonic

Battery Voltage:

48 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

11.5 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

552 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

4 hours

Estimated Min Range:

15 miles (24 km)

Estimated Max Range:

25 miles (40 km)

Display Type:

AddMotoR Branded, Backlit LCD Control Panel with Independent Button Pad on Left, (Tap Power to Cycle Through Tripometer and Odometer, Hold Up Arrow to Cycle Through Average Speed and Max Speed, Hold Down Arrow to Activate Walk Mode, Hold Up Arrow and Power to Turn On and Off Headlight and Backlight)

Readouts:

Speed, Max Speed, Average Speed, Assist Level (0-5), Battery Level (5 Bars), Trip Distance, Total Distance, Wattage Output

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad on Left, Buttons: Up Arrow, Down Arrow, Power, USB Type A Port Beneath Display (5 Volt, 500 mA)

Drive Mode:

Cadence Sensing Pedal Assist, Twist Throttle (12 Magnet Disc)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph) (Possible Up to 25)

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Written Review

What’s up, folks! This is Brent here. I’ve been focusing on electric bikes from AddMotoR for the last couple of reviews and this one is called the MOTAN M150-P7 folding electric bike. Just like with the MOTAN M-5800 I reviewed before it, this one came in black with orange accents and I have to say, the color scheme appeals to me because it’s bright and fun. It feels like AddMotoR spent some time figuring out where to put the color accents and how much to splash in there to really make it pop. I dig the orange battery and rims, and especially the orange wiring. Really pulls everything together to make for a head turner of an electric bike. The M150-P7 feels like a practical folding bike that has a few features enabling it to tackle some terrain other folding electric bikes might not be able to. Specifically, this electric bike has 4” wide fat tires, a relatively large 11.5 amp hour battery, a 750 watt hub motor with a top speed of 20 mph. It can be operated via throttle or with pedal assist. It also has MOZO suspension fork with great 100 mm of travel, lockout, and preload adjust. Combined, this folding electric bike, like the M-5800, does pretty well on soggy terrain, particularly mud, snow, sand and gravel. On the AddMotoR website it states this bike tops out at 25 mph, which would classify it as a class 3 electric bike, potentially decreasing the amount of places it could be legally ridden. However, the bike that I tested toped out at 20 mph, so I’m guessing there’s probably a way to adjust the top speed in the settings of the control center. As with all bikes from AddMotoR, this is a direct order electric bike. This company doesn’t have any physical brick-and-mortar shops that I’m aware of, which poses some great upsides, but also a few drawbacks. One huge pro with this setup is the price. Generally speaking, electric bike companies that are direct order are able to offer their products at a more affordable price than if they were sold in a shop. This one, for instance, runs for $1,599 — a price that feels pretty affordable given what comes with. However, there’s also some downsides to direct order only. For starters, the bikes have to be assembled by the buyer. This isn’t a huge deal in my opinion, and while it used to take me about an hour to put everything together, I can now get everything up and running in about 30 minutes because I have the correct tools ready. However, this also means that the bikes don’t come pro-tuned from a shop. So some adjustments might need to be made to get everything running perfectly smoothly, specifically with the disc brakes, which could have some rub and rattle. Again, not a huge deal, but I want to point out all the little things I can think of. One of the biggest drawbacks though to direct order is that what you get is what you get. While I haven’t seen this with AddMotoR, I have on more than occasion received a bike with different components than what was listed on the website. Also, and this is something I have experienced with AddMotoR, all the pieces may not fit perfectly. With this bike, the front fender wouldn’t fit, so I had to grab some pliers to bend a few pieces into place before I could attach it. Lastly, there can be a bit of a language barrier, especially when trying to get specific details on the specs. Personally, I think the savings in price is worth some of these small potential hiccups, but of course the ultimate decision is up to you guys. My hope is that this review, with the carefully listed specs above, empowers you beyond what AddMotoR communicates so you can make an informed decision and compare against other models. So, let’s dive in!

Driving this bike is a 750 watt planetary geared hub motor with 80 newton meters of torque. I’m not exactly sure what brand this motor is, but it looks like Bafang. It’s pretty peppy and was able to get me up to the top speed of 20 mph, using the throttle only, with ease. I weigh 200 pounds, for reference. Like most bikes from AddMotoR, there’s a few different tiers of each model. For instance, the M150-P7 has suspension and a 750 watt hub motor, and costs $1,599. But the M150 has no suspension, a 500 watt hub motor and a slightly smaller battery for $1,299. It’s cool there are different tiers to choose from, but since this bike has the extra wide 4” fat tires and weighs in at a pretty heft 60.7 pounds, I’d opt for P7 version if only for the 750 watt hub motor and bigger battery. At 60.7 pounds, this is definitely heavier than a lot of other folding electric bikes, and because the battery is located behind the seat tube, and because the motor is located in the rear wheel, it is quite back heavy. Thankfully, AddMotoR includes a sort of handle that’s built into the middle of the frame and works well as a way to pick up and carry the bike. The extra wide tires are great for tackling soft terrain because of the extra surface area, and they offer additional suspension because of their increased air volume (granted these are only 20” x 4” tires compared to the M-5800’s 26” x 4” tires). It’s worth noting that the bigger tires do present one big drawback, increased rolling resistance and noise. That additional weight and drag of the wheels is going to require more effort to get the bike going, so the 750 watt motor is a great choice. The tires also have punched out rims which does save a bit of weight, but because they are only 20” tall, they have a lower attack angle compared to taller tires. Last thing about the tires I want to mention is that they are 5 to 30 PSI, which I think is great for utilizing them for that muddy, snowy, sandy and just generally slushy terrain (with the 5 to 8 PSI) or efficient hardpacked or pavement terrain (with 25 to 30 PSI). Just like airing down tires on a 4×4 when off-roading, these tires can be aired down to provide even more traction and surface area, but that will of course increase the drag even further.

Powering the M150-P7, the backlit LCD display, and headlamp is a 48 volt, 11.5 amp hour battery pack, offering 552 watt hours of total capacity. This isn’t as big as the monster 840 watt hour battery on the M-5800, but still a bit larger than average for a folder, which is nice given that extra rolling resistance from the tires and heavy 60.7 pound weight. You can really drain the battery down by using throttle only, or riding in the highest level of assist through soft terrain. The battery here weighs about 7.8 pounds but has a nice carrying handle at the top so it doesn’t feel so bad lugging it around. The battery pack is located at the rear of the seat post which, again, does make the bike feel back heavy. The battery pack is locking and removable, which is great for charging it on or off the bike. The keys are used to lock the battery to the bike as well as turn it on. Only after turning the battery on can you press the power button on the control pad up at the handlebar to get the bike moving, which adds some time and might require you to get off the bike or twist and stretch down. The rear of the saddle extends over the top of the battery and must be removed before the battery will slide out. Thankfully, the seat post has a quick release collar, but it’s still an extra step to remove the battery. The good news is that the battery doesn’t get in the way of the seat being dropped all the way down, which is great for those who have a shorter inseam. I do have to point out again how much I dig the orange here. The battery pack is bright orange and really makes the bike stand out. The three-prong charging port for the battery is located at the top and easily clears the cranks and pedals, so there’s virtually no chance of the power cord getting snagged while it’s plugged in. The charger for this bike has an output of 2.5 amps, which is just a tad bit higher than the average 2 amp battery chargers. I’m not sure exactly how long it takes to charge this battery up from empty, but I’d guess somewhere around four hours. It’s best to store the battery in a cool, dry location, and avoid letting it drain to 20% in order to reduce stress on the cells. Check it every month or two if you haven’t been out for a ride.

Turning the bike on is a two-step process that starts with inserting the key into the battery pack and giving it a turn, then long pressing the power button on the Independent button pad, mounted to the left side of the handlebars. Since the key must be left in the battery pack for it to be active, there’s some potential for snags or rattling if you have a keychain attached. The display is an AddMotoR branded backlit LCD that offers a fair amount of information at a glance, including current speed, max or average speed, tripometer, odometer, assist level (0-5), battery level (5 bar) and wattage output. Tapping the power button cycles between seeing the tripometer and odometer, holding the down arrow activates walk mode, holding the up arrow cycles through average speed and max speed and holding the up arrow and the power button simultaneously activates and deactivates the backlight and headlight. This is a pretty large display and it isn’t adjustable without a tool, which means tilting to reduce glare isn’t an option, and it might also get scratched up at the bike rack or when you fold the bike. The headlight on the M150-P7 is located on the arch of the suspension, so it isn’t sprung and will bounce around more than if it were placed on the frame itself. That being said, the beam pattern here isn’t too bad. It’s focused enough and bright enough to provide some real illumination for riding at night. There is a tail light, but it’s independent from the electronics and battery, and it requires three AAA batteries to operate. Just remember to turn it on and off, and maybe keep some spare batteries around so you can be safe when riding at night. Depressing the brake levers activates the motor inhibitors, ensuring the shortest possible stopping distance. And, that’s a really good thing since you’ve got a lot of power on hand. The pedal assist activates via cadence sensor vs. a fancier torque or multi-sensor, so motor inhibitors are more important here and on other more basic ebikes than some of the fancier higher-end ones. With the 12-magnet cadence sensor, there’s a bit of start and stop delay with the motor when I start and stop pedaling. The brake levers aren’t adjustable, however, so those with extra small or extra large hands, or those that wear gloves while riding may find grasping the levers less comfortable than hydraulic levers. And since these are mechanical brakes, they will require a bit more grasping force compared to hydraulic brakes and the cables will stretch over time. Like the M-5800, this bike offers pedal assist levels 0-5. At 0, the pedal assist and throttle are not active. At 1-5 they are live (the throttle is live from 0 mph in assist settings 1-5 and offers full power). I prefer this configuration as it allows me to have instant power from a standstill, but I do want to caution against accidental activation when walking the bike while it’s powered on. What’s cool about this bike compared to the M-5800 is that the throttle can unleash all 750 watts of power from pedal assist levels 1-5 vs. being limited. I used this multiple times when crossing cross walks, but could see how the twist-throttle could get bumped when mounting/dismounting or be twisted too hard if you got started while riding, and send the bike out of control. Twist throttles are satisfying, but more prone to accidental activation than smaller trigger throttles… and this one is at full power whenever assist is live.

This was another fun e-bike to review from AddMotoR and I think the M150-P7 is a good choice for those who need a portable folding electric bike that can still be taken off-road and through some soggy terrain. Of course, at this point there’s quite a few other electric bike companies that offer fat tire folding bikes and some of them have great customer service and physical shops so you can check out the bikes before buying them (and have someone else put them together for you). Because this bike is shorter than a full size bike, and because the handlebars are a bit shorter as well, it doesn’t feel quite as stable. In fact, I used this bike to grab a coffee from a local coffee shop and while I was carrying the coffee back in one hand and trying to steer with the other, this point became painfully obvious. I really like the style of this bike and appreciate the folding process. Folding and unfolding the M150-P7 is pretty painless and requires two latches to be undone. One latch is located on the middle of the frame, allowing it be folded in half. The other latch is located at the base of the stem and allows the stem to be folded downwards towards the frame. To help the bike fit into even tighter spaces, there’s one last latch just above the headset which allows the handlebars to be turned to save a little more room. And lastly, the pedals themselves fold. These folding pedals don’t feel as high of quality as some of the Wellgo folding pedals I have seen, but they still function fine enough. The mid-frame folding joint bulges out a bit, so be careful not to bump your knees when pedaling or standing over the frame. At the bottom of the frame is a bracket that serves to rest the bike on when it’s folded. And great news! The M150-P7 can actually stand upright on its own without falling over. Some of the other folding bikes I’ve tested couldn’t do this, so I just wanted to point that out. I dig the orange steel fenders as well, but again, they were a little difficult to install, and this bike doesn’t have rack bosses or bottle cage bosses. The good thing about these fenders though is they are quite rigid and didn’t rattle at all while riding. Just watch out for rusting if they get scratched and expose the metal underneath the paint. I’ll try my best to answer any questions you leave in the comments below and in the AddMotoR Forums, and I want to thank AddMotoR for partnering with me on this review!

Pros:

  • Color scheme is great with just the right amount of orange accents, the orange battery pack and orange wiring also does a good job of really making this bike stand out from the rest
  • 4” fat tires offer extra suspension because of their larger than average air volume and extra traction because of their larger than average width, the ability to air them down to 5 PSI is also great for those looking to take this bike through mud, snow, sand, gravel or other soggy terrain
  • Front suspension works well and has adjustable preload and lockout, which is cool for riding on smooth roads where increased efficiency is preferred over increased suspension
  • Orange steel fenders look great and are super rigid, they don’t bounce around while riding and they don’t make any noise, just watch out for rust if they get scratched
  • Headlight is wired into the electronics and can be turned on and off from the button pad, the beam pattern is pretty good and does a good job of illuminating the riding path in low light or no light conditions, also does a good job of increasing overall visibility at night
  • Steel derailleur guard extends over the derailleur to add protection against strikes and should also help protect the power cable that feeds into the motor as well
  • Handle integrated into the frame design provides a good point to grab onto when lifting the bike, this hold point effectively counteracts the back heavy nature of the bike
  • Larger than average battery helps ensure the bike has a reasonable range and helps make up for the extra drag from the oversized tires, the battery is also removable and can be charged on or off the bike
  • Control center is backlit and has a fair amount of information on the display, also has a USB Type A port at the bottom of the display to charge and/or power cell phones, GPS or any other accessories while riding
  • Bike actually balances upright by itself when folded in half, bracket at the bottom of the frame is placed in just the right spot so the bike doesn’t tip over
  • Plastic double-sided chain guide/guard should help keep the chain from popping off, it’s not as tough as alloy (which might be nice for a folding bike where the chainring can be more exposed) but is lightweight
  • Throttle-only ability means the bike can be used without pedaling, the throttle is also live from 0 mph when in assist mode 1-5, which is great for starting from a dead stop especially when in a high gear or starting up a hill
  • Kickstand is adjustable and placed well towards the rear of the bike, doesn’t get in the way of the pedals
  • Comes in four different color accents: blue, black, orange and green so you could buy two and keep them separate
  • Has telescoping stem to accommodate riders of various heights and reaches, telescoping locking mechanism feels sturdy when locked and doesn’t rattle or move around during use
  • Motor inhibitors shut off power to the motor whenever the brake levers are depressed, this helps ensure the shortest possible stopping distance
  • Rims are double walled and punched out to help shave off a bit of weight, plus the orange color does a good job of tying in the color scheme

Cons:

  • The derailleur and shifter are entry-level and just not as quick or durable as nicer components, it’s part of the low-pricing strategy but means that they can go out of true and just aren’t as satisfying to use
  • Mechanical disc brakes require more grasping force to stop compared to hydraulic disc brakes, and non adjustable brake levers means those with extra small or extra large hands might find it difficult to grasp them
  • Fenders look beautiful, but the metal attachment points on the front fender had to be bent into place with pliers before it would fit onto the frame and because they are steel, they can rust when scratched
  • The bike doesn’t come with any magnets or bungee straps to keep it folded, consider buying some inexpensive plastic bungees of your own (plastic, so they don’t scratch the bike frame and fenders)
  • Battery location at the rear of the seat tube as opposed to integrated into the frame means this one is quite back heavy, makes carrying it and loading/unloading it difficult at times
  • At 60.7 pounds, this is on the heavier side of folding electric bikes, which might defeat the purpose for those who are looking for something extra portable and easy to carry into the office, on a train, bus, subway, etc. consider removing the 7.8 lb battery before lifting to make it easier
  • Control center can’t be removed or adjusted without tools, so it can’t be angled to eliminate glare and it could also get scratched while at a bike rack or when folding and transporting
  • Communicating with AddMotoR poses some difficulties because of the language barrier, and assembling the bike requires more time and effort compared to just picking it up from a shop
  • The large 4” tires create extra drag and reduce efficiency, and because they are only 20” tall they have a lower attack angle, which will make going over some obstacles more difficult compared to taller tires
  • Only one frame size, 18”, and although the stem does telescope, this bike may not accommodate some taller riders comfortably or super stably
  • Non locking grips twist around when a lot of pressure is placed on them, the red stitching here seems off compared to the bright orange on the rest of the bike

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Asher
1 week ago

The fat minibike is quickly shaping up to be the trend bike of 2018-2019:

Add Motor
https://electricbikereview.com/addmotor/motan-m-60/

Lithium 73
https://www.lithiumcycles.com/

Juiced

Unimoke
https://urbandrivestyle.com/pages/unimoke-electric-bicycle

Maybe we can get the balloon bike (as fast as a CCS, comfort of an RCS) that actually makes sense, in late 2019?

Rob Bay
1 week ago

Found this on ebay for 1599 a few weeks ago and I think it's specked out better I think they are more hassle free than BPM. This is what I would buy:

https://www.ridescoozy.com/collections/all/products/veego-750-fat-tire-electric-bicycle

Rob Bay
1 week ago
gabriel_ATL
1 week ago

Rob,
I am looking at similar bikes. The F15X, Voltbike Mariner and Addmotor Motan 150. All have similar frames Bafang motors, Samsung batteries, etc. The 750W motor on the F15X and the price being the main differences. Can you give me your impressions after having one for a few months. My main concern is all positive reviews on their site and eBay but nothing much anywhere else online. Not even pics or videos.

patcheung
4 weeks ago

How do you like the Shred? Thinking of getting one, but still considering options in this price range.

Nyzd21
1 month ago

You right it does look quality wise better than the H5 but I wasn't sure if the 19 inch frame will do it . My current bike has a 21inch frame but 26inch wheels. Haibike makes a big 22inch with midmotor.
I'm from NYC and most of the time I will use it on streets.

DaveS
1 month ago

Hi Z
I just ordered a shred myself. I've had very good response from S604 when I was asking tons of questions to various vendors. It looked like a notch up in quality over the addmotor and the ability to talk with people on the phone is important to me. The Haibike also looks good, but for me the shred was a better fit (feature wise). Size wise I'm 5'11. Give S604 a call and ask them how they think the fit would be for a 6'4 person. Where are you located and what are you looking to do with the bike?
Dave

Nyzd21
1 month ago

Hi, I'm new to ebikes and looking to buy my first one but can't make a decision between addmotor h5, surface 604 shred or haibike they all seem to be in my price range around 2k. Also need to be a large bike since I'm 6'4 and I'm not sure if the the surface shred is right for me with the 19inch frame but again I'm new to ebikes and in my area are not to many stores and the ones I have visited have a small choice of Ebikes .
Any recommendations?
I really appreciate any help.

Thanks,
Z

jtlamf77
1 month ago

I have had my bike for about 16 months and the motor (1000W) is shot - quoted a price of $450 from Addmotor (YIKES!) - I see 1000W hubmotor on ebay for $150- why the large difference?

Ann M.
1 month ago

@Jonatansofer, two things that I noticed was the difference in the battery capacity, 48V 13Ah for the DJ bikes and 48V 10.4Ah for the Addmotor bike. Less range with the latter. What was a little more concerning was the location of the battery behind the seat tube on the DJ Bikes. A lot of weight in the back with the motor also in the rear wheel. The Addmotor bike had its battery on the downtube (where a water bottle would normally go) and the motor in the rear wheel, so a better weight distribution.

Both are online products so access to service or warranty help is going to be up to you. Hopefully you have some bike shop reasonably nearby that works on ebikes that would be willing to help you. In the price range that you are considering there are a number of brand name quality ebikes, like Raleigh, etc., where service would be easier to obtain.

Those two bikes are two totally different designs & purposes, so only you will know what kind of riding you want to do or already do which will help you decide on the right ebike.

Deathdog84Pew
2 months ago

First comment and first like and first view pls pin me subbed and turned on post notifications

Carlos E. Torchia
1 month ago

Ha ha, lol.

benzoesan sodu
2 months ago

Production cost <500 USD ;D

Brent McCluskey — Electrified Reviews
2 months ago

Haha! Awesome! Congrats. :)

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 months ago

Okay, I pinned you... please don't change your comment to something crazy or take advantage of this good will. Thanks for the shout out, likes, and sub stuff. Hope you've had a great day :)

Brent McCluskey — Electrified Reviews
2 months ago

Woot! Holla! :)

Hi-Fi The fox
5 days ago

I've been looking to get a ebike for a bit now and I was first interested in the RamMini but I will never have a chance to get one as they sell out so fast. I found this on Amazon and it looks like a good alternative but I want to know about getting support from the company and replacement parts. I saw some "cheaper" bikes similar that had a lot of reviews saying they got nothing when they contacted the company/support. If you are able to tell me anything about the brand it would be helpful, thanks.

abstractclass
1 week ago

Great review & camera work; love the drone shots!

Muzz Macc
3 weeks ago

I enjoy watching your channel, but

I think you should have begun the review with the action shots that appear at 23:00. That bike looks like a lot of fun.

Your channel should feature elbow / knee protection. Theres going to be a lot of people buying e-bikes, many of whom may not have been near a bike in years.

Should be plenty of manufacturers willing to send you body protection to test.

Maybe the body protection will evolve into something more casual/ 'street'?

Cheers!

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 weeks ago

Thanks for sharing your positive feedback and ideas for safety Muzz :)

Quang Yung
4 weeks ago

Where's Court?

Jeremy Jez420
4 weeks ago

I purchased two m150 bikes. Check out my review.

DENSUTUBE2008
1 month ago

What is a good psi for 20 x 4 tires for on road use to avoid issues like pinch flats but have comfort as well?

Carlos E. Torchia
1 month ago

Love chain protector, fat tires, visible and decent colours, adjustable suspension, powerful motor. Not allowed in my jurisdiction, unfort. Hate unintegrated rearlight, vulnerable headlight wires.

Jeremy Jez420
2 months ago

I have two. I would highly recommend. Yes the fenders don't do anything. Useless. I'm looking forward to summer. I had this in the snow , it was fun. All round fun and high quality. I'll be upgrading with this brand again

Mohammad Dezfuli
2 months ago

Great review! I have the M150-P7 for a month and since then, I can not stop ridding it. I have already reached over 400 miles. This is the best upright seating position e-bike, which makes it the most comfortable ride you have ever experienced.

G Wilk
2 months ago

Rad mini is a way better buy.

Dmitri Nesteruk
2 months ago

These fenders simply will *not* protect you from mud. Who came up with such a ridiculous idea?

4nlimited3dition
2 months ago

The chinese make these with a ton of different length fenders, I ordered mine with the long ones. Not from Addmotor though, straight from the factory.

Mike Devlin
2 months ago

I have a similar style bike..."Airstream 805", 350 watt...and narrower tires allows you to place it on Public Transit Bike carriers, Trains, etc.
Wasn't my first choice in a Electric Bike, but proved to be the intelligent choice...very versatile.!

tompaah7503
2 months ago

Love your reviews. No matter how crappy a bike is you seem so positive.
The bike can be bought off Alibaba for less than half the price. And even that seems too much for that pile of junk. Communication problems, unclear what you're getting. Frame flex and wobble. Back heavy. Steel fenders. Nothing fits without the need to bend the parts. Delays in the assist.
LOL.

Terence Lee
2 months ago

Hey Brent and Court,
Why don’t you guys do a trip to China...
Visit the Shanghai bike fair and meet some Chinese manufacturers. Knowing how Chinese are, they will welcome you guys to visit and get to know them better.

Brent McCluskey — Electrified Reviews
2 months ago

Thanks for the feedback, tomphaah. I think Alibaba is definitely an option for those looking to save money, but I'd personally be far more worried about what I actually received vs. what I ordered. I have no experience ordering from Alibaba, so I can't say for sure. Maybe Court could weigh in here if he knows more?

TomaCukor
2 months ago

"Sturdy aside from the frame flex..." First time I've heard that.

4nlimited3dition
2 months ago

Could the frame flex be caused by the simpler latch mechanism in this AddMotor's version of this bike? I believe the VoltBike and Rad Mini for example have the original latch design, did they have the same frame flex still?

Pure Water Window Cleaning
2 months ago

Brent McCluskey — Electrified Reviews Would have to agree on the flex.

Brent McCluskey — Electrified Reviews
2 months ago

Word. Just what Court said. :) And yes, I was referring to the frame's overall ability to soak up moderate bumps and navigate moderate off-road trails. This doesn't feel like a true off-road beast to me, but it does seem pretty sturdy aside from the slight frame flex at speeds above 25 mph. Hope that helps!

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 months ago

I can't speak for Brent, but smaller diameter wheels tend to be very sturdy and maybe he was talking about the suspension or something? Thanks for calling us out. Be critical so we can get better, but polite so everyone can feel good... just as you did :)

Rotormatic
2 months ago

Good use of the drone aerial shots in these videos! Keep up the good work!

Brent McCluskey — Electrified Reviews
2 months ago

Thanks, Rotormatic! Glad you're digging the new shots!

W M
2 months ago

Last price for this Chinese bike is $600, not 1.6K!

Mellas Io
1 month ago

i will recommend to buy from a close retailer or something like that ....i ride bikes for last 20 years , i have a fat bike like this( 1000 km done with her on 6 months ) and i can tell is fun, i change the tyres with some slick , less noise hi speed but the crap part is ......no spear parts no assistance from where i got her ...if is a problem they will just change the bike ....wtf i done upgrades on cant give that and get new one ......battery in 8.8 ah 10-15 km range not 25-35 and then u stuck 4-5 h extra battery 200 pounds + .......anyway for a 1000+ pounds bike i will prefer a 500 pounds hard tail and electric kit ...... 300-400 pounds but with 14.5 ah and 500 w

4nlimited3dition
2 months ago

You guys at ElectricBikeReview should try ordering this e bike straight from an Alibaba source manufacturer yourself and review that one. You could also slap your own logo sticker on it like everyone else does; "ElectricBikeReview super Fat 20" or something like that.
This bike design (like a ton of others you have reviewed under different brand stickers), fat folding 20 inch electric is 100% designed by a Chinese company as well as manufactured by said company/companies/factories(I personally think that's a good thing, the Chinese have gotten really good at it). You can just tell the manufacturer (a ton of them on Alibaba) the exact specifications of this bike that you want and they will make it and ship it to your door(DDP, Express air).

Even ordering just a single bike, custom made, with better specs, straight from a factory in china, right to your doorstep via air express(which is around $200 alone) is overall cheaper than buying one from these different brand re-sellers. Of course warranty and after sale support will be much more complicated, but I feel that still doesn't justify the higher prices from most of these re-sellers.

For a batch order, for example you can buy 20 of these exact bikes in the video above shipped to your door for around $850 a piece(including taxes and everything). Single unit order prices hover at around $1000+ depending on how crazy specs you want. For example this 20 inch fatty model with a 1000W+ motor, 15Ah 48V battery, 1500w controller(30mph+ speed and crazy torque, super illegal on streets) would be around 1400USD shipped to doorstep for a single unit purchase, again including taxes and customs fees).

FarkyJTV
2 months ago

i think its better to order a fat bike from addmotor with warranty even overseas.lots of those alibaba fat bikes have almost no warranty and only a few bikeshops here in eu sold parts for it.i dont know about the us.but it seems there are more shops for it there.you are better off with a chinese standart 20 inch and buy new motor or parts.or even some modified lipo for it if you are skilled with electric stuff.graphene lipos are great for them.i will go this DIY road myself probably.

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 months ago

Yeah, it seems like there's a big markup on Chinese products like this... might be the warranty, shipping, maybe taxes to sell in the US? I feel like it can be hit or miss when importing from Alibaba and similar sites on arrival time and condition. Do you have experience with this sort of thing or care to share more insights?

D Danilo
2 months ago

Another great review "in the can", Brent! The drone footage really rounds things out for a complete perspective. The new innovations are important because you and Court are the ones all the other reviewers are trying to mimic! Keep up the great work! Thanks!

Brent McCluskey — Electrified Reviews
2 months ago

Thanks so much for the kind words, D Danilo! Court has been spending quite a bit of time helping to train me up, and I've also been learning quite a bit from you folks as well, so I really appreciate the feedback. Glad you're digging the new types of shots too!

Spam Sandwich
2 months ago

Who designed the paint scheme... an eleven year old?

Carlos E. Torchia
1 month ago

If it's helping me be more visible on the roadway, I don't care if it was designed by Toy's R Us.

Michael Simon
2 months ago

Its look great

Brent McCluskey — Electrified Reviews
2 months ago

Ha! Not for you huh? I get it. It's definitely a little "hey look at me!"

james eagle
2 months ago

This thing looks like a kid's toy!

Carlos E. Torchia
1 month ago

No, a kid's toy looks like this thing. This is a solid piece of engineering.

Urban Cargo Bikes
2 months ago

Ya, a big kid's toy!

Chris Cross
2 months ago

Who doesn't want to feel young again.

Brent McCluskey — Electrified Reviews
2 months ago

I can definitely see how some folks wouldn't dig the bright color scheme. This probably isn't something I'd get for myself, but I really dig the orange nonetheless. :)