BESV TRS1 Review

Besv Tsr1 Electric Bike Review
Besv Tsr1
Besv Tsr1 Shimano Steps E8000 Ebike Motor
Besv Tsr1 Shimano Bt E8010 Ebike Battery
Besv Tsr1 Shimano Steps Di2 Display Panel
Besv Tsr1 Fox Performance Elite 34 Air Suspension Fork
Besv Tsr1 Ergon Sme30 Saddle Maxxis Rekon 27 5 Tires
Besv Tsr1 Shimano Deore Xt 11 Speed
Besv Tsr1 Shimano 4 Amp Ebike Charger
Besv Tsr1 Electric Bike Review
Besv Tsr1
Besv Tsr1 Shimano Steps E8000 Ebike Motor
Besv Tsr1 Shimano Bt E8010 Ebike Battery
Besv Tsr1 Shimano Steps Di2 Display Panel
Besv Tsr1 Fox Performance Elite 34 Air Suspension Fork
Besv Tsr1 Ergon Sme30 Saddle Maxxis Rekon 27 5 Tires
Besv Tsr1 Shimano Deore Xt 11 Speed
Besv Tsr1 Shimano 4 Amp Ebike Charger

Summary

  • An ultra-lightweight hardtail electric mountain bike with premium Fox Peformance Elite air suspension fork, Shimano E8000 mid-motor, Deore XT drivetrain with one-way clutch, and Deore XT hydraulic disc brakes
  • Available in three frame sizes but only one colorway, specced with Shimano Pro carbon handlebar and seat post, comfortable Ergon SME30 saddle and sturdy locking grips, bottle cage bosses on seat tube
  • Compact Di2 display panel is used with physical triggers on left to navigate three assist levels, optional Shimano e-TUBE app lets you dial in Trail and Boost mode, battery looks great and is positioned well but isn't completely hidden
  • Smaller 2.6" plus sized tires are quicker and lighter than 2.8" or 3.0" and are easy to convert to tubeless, stiff thru-axles front and rear with wider boost hub spacing, more expensive than comparable cross country ebikes with alloy frames, bulky charger, no provisions for adding a rear rack

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Introduction

Make:

BESV

Model:

TRS1

Price:

$6,499

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Trail, Mountain

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

5 Year Frame, 2 Year Motor and Battery, 1 Year Parts

Availability:

United States, Europe, Asia, Worldwide

Model Year:

2018

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

41.8 lbs (18.96 kg) (51.2 lbs for Large)

Battery Weight:

5.8 lbs (2.63 kg)

Motor Weight:

6.35 lbs (2.88 kg)

Frame Material:

Carbon Fiber, Alloy

Frame Sizes:

15 in (38.1 cm)17 in (43.18 cm)19 in (48.26 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

Large: 18.75" Seat Tube, 22.75" Reach, 28.5" Stand Over Height, 29.25" Width, 74" Length

Frame Types:

High-Step

Frame Colors:

Satin Black with Blue and Yellow Accents

Frame Fork Details:

Fox Performance Elite 34 Air Suspension, 130 mm Travel, Compression Adjust, Rebound Adjust, Boost 110 mm Hub Spacing, 15 mm Maxle Thru-Axle with Quick Release

Frame Rear Details:

Boost 148 mm Hub Spacing, 12 mm Thru-Axle with Quick Release

Attachment Points:

Bottle Cage Bosses

Gearing Details:

11 Speed 1x11, Shimano Deore XT Derailleur with One-Way Clutch, Shimano Cassette 11-46 Tooth

Shifter Details:

Shimano Deore XT Triggers on Right (Two-Way High Lever, Four-Shift Low Lever)

Cranks:

Shimano FC-E8000 Alloy, 175 mm Length, Steel Chainring 34 Teeth with Narrow Wide Tooth Pattern

Pedals:

Alloy Platform with Fixed Pins, Black

Headset:

FSA, Integrated, Internal Cups, Sealed Cartridge Bearing, Tapered 1-1/8" to 1-1/4"

Stem:

Pro Koryak Alloy, 60 mm Length, 0° Rise, 31.8 mm Clamp Diameter, Three 10 mm Spacers

Handlebar:

Pro Tharsis Carbon Fiber, Flat, 730 mm Length

Brake Details:

Shimano Deore XT Hydraulic Disc with 180 mm Ice-Tech Rotors, Dual Piston Calipers with Heat Fins, Two-Finger Levers with Tool-Free Adjustable Reach

Grips:

Ergon Flat, Rubber, Locking

Saddle:

Ergon SME30

Seat Post:

Pro Tharsis Carbon, 0° Offset, Integrated Head

Seat Post Length:

400 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

31.6 mm

Rims:

DT Swiss - H 1900 SPLINE 30, Alloy, Double Wall, 28 Hole, 30 mm Width, Reinforcement Eyelets

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 14 Gauge, Black with Nipples

Tire Brand:

Maxxis Rekon, 27.5" x 2.6"

Wheel Sizes:

27.5 in (69.85cm)

Tire Details:

20 to 40 PSI, 1.4 to 2.8 BAR, 120 TPI, 3C, Maxs Terra, EXO Protection, Tubeless Ready

Tube Details:

Presta Valve (MAXXIS 29" x 1.9" / 2.35", F/V 48 mm)

Other:

Locking Removable Downtube-Mounted Battery Pack, 2.2 lb 4 Amp Charger

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Shimano STePs E8000

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

250 watts

Motor Peak Output:

500 watts

Motor Torque:

70 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Shimano BT-E8010

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

14 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

504 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

3.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

30 miles (48 km)

Estimated Max Range:

60 miles (97 km)

Display Type:

Shimano Di2, Fixed, Color LCD, Backlit, Adjustable Brightness (Hold Circle Button to Enter Settings, Use Left Shifters to Navigate)

Readouts:

Battery Indicator (5 Bars), Assist Level (Off, Eco, Trail, Boost), Speed, Odometer, Trip Distance, Range, Trip Time, Avg Speed, Max Speed, Cadence RPM, Clock, (Advanced Settings: Clear Trip Meter, Bluetooth Pairing, Ant+ Pairing, Lights, Brightness, Beep On and Off, Change Units, Language, Shifter Quickness Adjust + and - 16, Rear Derailleur Protection Reset)

Display Accessories:

Trigger Shifter Buttons on Left (Small is Up, Large is Down, Can Reverse in Settings), Optional Shimano E-TUBE Bluetooth App

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Measures Wheel Speed, Pedal Cadence and Pedal Torque, Power Output Relative to Pedal Input: Off, Eco, Trail, Boost 300%)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

Over the past several years, reviewing BESV electric bike products, I have begun to recognize and appreciate the relative high quality and very custom designs on offer. Whether it’s a small triangular battery pack as seen on the compact PSA1, a head-tube integrated light as seen on the CF1, or a completely custom LCD control panel and stem as seen on the LX1, there’s usually something special to be found. With the TRS1, BESV has left most of the electronics, battery, and drive systems alone… leaving that to Shimano. Instead, they focused on designing the lightest carbon fiber frame possible, producing it in three sizes, and integrating the speed sensor and battery pack as tightly and securely as possible. There’s only one color scheme on offer, but it looks great in my opinion, and really ties the battery pack into the look of the frame. By using the stock Shimano battery, BESV has made it easier to rent or borrow additional packs (in the event that you’re traveling by air, where larger Lithium-ion batteries usually cannot be carried along). These packs are probably going to cost less to replace, and I like how they tip in from the side. This is a fairly stealthy electric bike, in large part because of how small and neatly integrated the Shimano E8000 motor is. BESV really opened themselves up to the great components that Shimano offers here, including a carbon seat post, and carbon handlebar (both labeled Pro, which is a Shimano brand). The 11-speed Shimano drivetrain offers excellent range with a wide 11 to 46 tooth cassette and Deore XT derailleur with one-way clutch (to keep the chain tight when riding off-road). Even the chainring has been upgraded to offer a narrow-wide tooth pattern, in order to reduce drops and chain slip. The chainring is made from steel which makes it sturdier than aluminum alloy… With up to 70 Newton meters of torque on offer from the motor, and no shift detection, it’s great that the drivetrain parts are specced higher and overbuilt. It really depends on how you shift gears, ideally easing off a bit as you press the triggers near the right grip, for how well the drivetrain will hold up between servicing and part replacement over the longterm. Unlike many heavier electric bikes, you can actually pedal the TRS1 unpowered without much difficulty, or pedal above the supported max speed of 20 mph (32 km/h) without a sense of drag. Yes, this ebike is priced higher than most comparable alloy cross country e-bikes. However, you do get a premium Fox air suspension fork, Deore XT hydraulic disc brakes with Ice-Tech rotors and finned calipers, as well as Ergon touch points, and a relatively high capacity battery. This is my favorite BESV electric bike to date, one that I could see myself enjoying around town and off-road thanks to the comfort, efficient drivetrain, ease of handling, and significantly reduced weight compared to other models. It’s much more of a bicycle than an electric bike, which is how the hub-motor powered models come off.

Driving this ebike is the Shimano E8000 mountain bike specific mid-motor. Their previous (and still used) E6000 mid-drive focused on neighborhood and urban applications with up to 50 Newton meters of torque output and modest 100 RPM maximum pedal assist crank rotations. With the E8000, Shimano is targeting trail and mountain applications by delivering up to 70 Nm of torque and over 120 RPM pedal support to meet and exceed Bosch and Yamaha. For riders who like to spin, like myself, this is a wonderful thing. It means you can achieve higher top assisted speeds WITHOUT having to shift gears. That’s a big deal when navigating varied terrain with ups and downs, and it matches the cross country focus of the TRS1 perfectly. This motor It is not as smooth when engaging, there’s almost a click where the motor kicks in, but it does offer great power from standstill. When you reach the maximum assisted speed of ~20 mph, the motor cuts out a little quick… especially if you’re pushing hard on the pedals (which activates the torque sensor for more power). This isn’t a bad thing, it’s just different than Brose, which I consider to be the smoothest, and Bosch, which offers eMTB mode now for a wider range of power in a single assist setting. Just like those two, I believe that the the Shimano motor controller is listening for rear wheel speed, pedal cadence, and pedal torque. My favorite parts about this motor are how it looks, how little it weighs (6.35 lbs vs. 8.8 lbs on the Bosch CX), and the narrower Q Factor (crank spacing of 175 mm). It was designed from the ground up to work with a standard sized chainring and not have a reduction gearing system that could create drag above assisted speeds, and to position the spindle further back to keep the chain stay distance short and provide a snappy ride experience. BESV is doing their best to keep the bike lightweight and balanced, but they included a plastic shield below the motor to protect it from rock and log strikes on the trail.

Powering the motor and color backlit LCD display is a 36 volt 14 amp hour battery pack called the Shimano BT-E8010. It offers a slightly higher capacity than the infamous Bosch PowerPack 500, and weighs about the same. I love how the battery is blended into the downtube design and sunk low to improve weight distribution across the frame. There’s plenty of room for a bottle cage or accessory on the seat tube bosses, and ample hanging space on the top tube (if you’ve got a rack for your car or take a bus or chair lift at resorts). Some lifts and racks now connect to the wheels of bikes vs. the frame, but it’s still nice to be able to pick this thing up and carry it on your shoulder over obstacles. Wiring is minimal, and it’s all neatly routed through the frame to reduce snags. The battery can be charged on or off the bike frame and does not require a dongle adapter to do so. You plug into the exact same port, located on the lower left side of the pack. If you do need to remove the battery, it unlocks and slides out to the left side of the frame. This is a great design because it reduces the potential for bumping the plastic shell of the battery up against the top tube, which frequently happens on the Bosch PowerPack and some others. The Shimano pack doesn’t have a big open loop handle at the top, so be careful when transporting it, but is easy enough to carry. My biggest gripe about the whole battery setup is that the charger is relatively heavy at ~2 lbs and much larger than the competition. You cannot unplug the wall side cord, so both cords stick out at either end and make it bulky to store in backpacks. At least it puts out 4 amps vs. just 2 amps on many competing systems… that means you can recharge and hit the trails again quickly. All in all, I’d give the battery implementation and performance a solid pass mark, because it looks good enough and is much more modular and extensible than a custom battery. In closing, it’s best to store your battery in a cool and dry location. Extreme temperatures can degrade the cells and if you allow the charge level to sink below 20%, it can begin to change the Lithium-ion chemistry.

When it’s time to ride, the BESV TRS1 is easy to work with and offers a lot of great feedback through the compact Shimano Di2 color LCD. This is the same unit that non-electric bikes use for Di2 shifting. The TRS1 opted for a mechanically shifted Deore XT, as mentioned earlier, so the right triggers are longer and a bit different looking than the right ones. These control your assist level and do click, but are really just glorified buttons, its an excellent example of a skeuomorph (a derivative object that retains ornamental design cues (attributes) from structures that are inherent to the original). Before those big fake shifters can work however, you must charge and mount the battery properly, then reach down and press the power button on the top of the battery pack. This button is a bit less convenient than the reachable control pads that many competing bikes offer… and most of them have larger dedicated display panels. The upside with the Shimano display is that it blends in and might take less damage in the event of a crash. The downside is that it can be difficult to read if you’re near sighted. Since it’s mounted below the left side of the handlebar vs. on top and and in the center of the bar, there’s a bit more head motion required to look down. In practice, I think you’d probably skip looking at the display and focus instead on naturally shifting gears and listening for the beeps that are sounded whenever you change assist levels. The display is not removable, not easy to swivel if you’re getting glare or reflections, and you cannot change the menu readouts without taking one of your hands completely off the grip and pressing a tiny circle on the bottom edge of the unit. This little circle can be difficult to click if you’re wearing gloves, but it does offer some great menu options. My personal favorite are the dynamic range estimate (which changes as you adjust assist levels), and the pedal RPM meter. I used the later extensively when ride testing the bike and was able to measure motor feedback when pedaling beyond 130 RPM! Sweet… But still, I’d love to have a slightly larger, easier to reach version of this button on the top edge of the trigger buttons near the left grip. Sometimes I feel that Shimano is too purist and are making decisions for their customers instead of allowing them to choose for themselves. Case in point: they do not make or support Class 3 speed pedelec products. They do not include a USB port for charging your phone from the display or battery even though they have an optional smartphone app (that relies on Bluetooth to stay connected), their chargers are huge and used to require a dongle adapter, and their motors do not offer shift detection… even with Di2 electronic shifting. How was that overlooked?! They have both signals right there at their disposal, and they simply did nothing to marry them and protect your drivetrain. Come on Shimano, you’re one of the world’s leading bicycle companies. Please help us with these simple and obvious things that Bosch, Yamaha, Brose, and others are getting right.

Well, I went on a bit of a rant there, but I really do like the BESV TRS1 electric bike. Despite the areas where Shimano could improve with its systems, the bike itself is fantastic and supported by a large reliable company (the parent company of BESV is called Darfon and makes batteries and solar panels, in business since 1997). I guess the reason I feel passionately about these little issues is because they are outside of BESV’s control. I love that they partnered so closely with Shimano, this company makes great products and is a big dime leader. I do feel that the bike needs a slap guard… and would recommend adding one yourself after market to avoid chipping the nice paint or carbon weave on the right chain stay. You can get a sticker one like this (and use the extra little stickers to protect other areas on the frame from cable rub) or go for a thicker neoprene guard like this. I would also probably get a suspension seat post to soften the hardtail feel. Kinekt offers a 31.6 mm product that would fit this bike and is highly adjustable and more responsive (and more expensive) than the others in the space right now. I appreciate that the locking core on the battery pack is spring loaded and that the pack can click in without the key. I love that you can hold the little circle button on the display panel to enter settings and turn off the electronic beeping noise (if it bothers you as much as it does me), and that the display uses color to help indicate assist levels at a glance vs. tiny text only. Big thanks to BESV for partnering with me on this review and to the Electric Bicycle Center for letting me test ride one of their demo bikes. Please chime in with your comments below or in the Shimano STePs or BESV forums and I’ll do my best to connect and provide answers or feedback. Note also, that the BESV TRS1 finished first in the EMTB race at Sea Otter Classic in 2018, here’s a short press release that they shared with me.

Pros:

  • One of the lightest electric mountain bikes I have ever tested… the all-carbon frame, handlebar, and seat post bring weight down and provide efficient power transfer as you pedal, note the hollowtech spindle
  • Available in three frame sizes for optimal fit and comfort, I photographed and test rode the large frame for this review and am 5’9″ with a 31″ inseam
  • The Shimano E8000 mid-motor is compact and lightweight compared with Bosch and Yamaha, it offers a standard Q-Factor so the crank arms don’t stick out as far on either side and it blends into the bottom bracket area of the frame beautifully
  • While the battery pack used here isn’t as hidden as the Bosch Powertube, some of the Brose solutions, or the custom Shimano packs that Focus has launched, it does offer great capacity, is much easier and cheaper to replace, and still looks great while keeping weight low and center, there’s even enough room in the main triangle for bottle cage bosses on the seat tube!
  • The TRS1 is a purpose-built electric bike with customized geometry to handle the additional weight of the motor and battery, I appreciate the internal cable routing and compact Shimano display (which stays out of the way compared to many competing display designs)
  • High-quality touch points, I love the Ergon saddle and Ergon locking grips here, the pedals are also quite nice for coming stock and could be upgraded to lightweight magnesium platforms like this for very little money
  • The Maxxis Rekon plus sized tires offer great traction and good cushion and float, but are lighter and more nimble than the larger 2.8″ or 3.0″ plus sizes… I think that BESV chose well going with 27.5″ x 2.6″ here, and you can convert the tires to tubeless fairly easily (for lower pressure and even lighter weight) because they come tubeless ready
  • The rims are tougher than average with reinforcement eyelets, the Fox 34 Elite suspension fork is a big upgrade and offers lots of adjustability, a rigid 15 mm thru-axle with micro-adjust, and tough but lightweight anodized stanchions
  • I found the 11-speed drivetrain to perform beautifully during my road and trail tests because it offers a gigantic range from 11 to 46 teeth, the Deore XT derailleur has a one-way clutch to tighten the derailleur spring and reduce chain bounce and slap when riding off road, which is more important given the lack of an included chain stay protector
  • I expected to see 180 mm or larger hydraulic disc brakes but was delighted to find that the calipers have heat fins, the rotors use Ice-Tech for faster cooling, and the two-finger levers have tool-free adjustable reach for dialing in the braking feel on the fly
  • This bike uses a shorter stem and creates a more upright or downhill-capable body position that I really like… you still have three 10 mm spacers that could go above the stem if you want to lean forward and down more, but I like the default setup, this bike spans cross country, trail and a bit of all mountain riding because of the longer travel 140 mm suspension fork
  • I’ve been reviewing BESV ebikes for several years now, and this is my favorite model to date… it fits my ride style (being a lightweight guy), performs more like a traditional bicycle vs. heavy electric, is backed by a solid two-year warranty and network of dealers
  • There’s no chain guide or cover here (to reduce weight), so I’m glad they opted for a narrow-wide chainring to reduce drops and chain slip
  • Because the Shimano E8000 motor supports traditional chainrings, you could swap the default 34 tooth and go for larger or smaller depending on your ride style and plans, there’s no drag when pedaling with the bike powered off or passing the maximum supported speed of 20 mph (32 km/h) as there is with some Bosch Performance Line motors that use a reduction gearing system and smaller chainring
  • I appreciate the larger plastic skid plate that’s fixed to the base of the motor, to protect it from any rock or log strikes when riding, it’s lighter than alloy but probably more durable than if the bare carbon frame was left unprotected
  • BESV worked hard to integrate the rear wheel speed sensor, building it into the disc brake mount vs. attaching a magnet to one of the spokes, this makes the electronics more durable and probably helps the wheel stay more balanced over the long run, it makes changing wheels easier as well

Cons:

  • Minor consideration, it would have been neat to have threaded bosses on the seat stays and rear dropout area for adding a rack… in the off chance that you want to use this as an around-town bike during the week, consider using a Tailfin carbon rack
  • I definitely appreciate the higher energy output of the 4 Amp battery charger (that will fill the battery faster), that it only weighs ~2 lbs, and that there’s no extra dongle adapter to plug it in (like with some of the older Shimano batteries and chargers)… but I do feel that the charger itself is larger and bulkier than some of the competition which can take up space in a backpack if you’re on a long trail ride and plan on refilling half-way
  • The higher powered motor systems like the one used here tend to require more energy and tend to produce more noise (especially when riding in the top levels of assist), this is often covered by the sound of your tires on the path or the wind but it’s not completely silent, especially at high RPM
  • It’s nice that the display is compact and well protected but you cannot adjust the angle for glare or remove it easily, also, I found that the settings button along the bottom edge of the display can be tricky to press when wearing gloves and is positioned too far from the right grip to interact while riding, you might have to stop and take your hand off the grip to change display readouts (it would be nice if Shimano could move this button or duplicate it onto the housing of the left shifter button pad thing)
  • In my experience, the Shimano STePs E8000 motor doesn’t start as smoothly, there’s like a step / click where it activates and that requires slightly more pedal force than the Bosch Performance CX in eMTB mode or the Brose S, but it does deliver a lot of power right away… which a lot of people love
  • Understandably, the bike is priced a bit higher at $6.5k because of the custom frame, multiple sizes, and premium drive system from Shimano
  • The Shimano E8000 motor does not offer shift detection, so you could definitely mash the gears hard and possibly bend the teeth on your cassette sprockets if you don’t ease back a bit when changing gears… especially with the four-step low lever, the motor controller measures rear wheel speed, pedal cadence, and pedal torque, so just ease back when shifting a bit and it should stay smooth
  • I would definitely get a chain stay protector “slap guard” to keep the right stay from getting chipped up… I can’t believe they didn’t include one (or perhaps this bike just had it missing?) they are very affordable and easy to apply, get a sticker one like this (and use the extra little stickers to protect other areas on the frame from cable rub) or go for a thicker neoprene guard like this
  • This isn’t a huge deal, but the display panel cannot be activated from the buttons near the handlebar, you have to reach down and press the power button on the top of the battery casing… which is a bit of a stretch and simply less convenient than almost every other leading solution (Bosch, Yamaha, Brose) which allow you to do it within reach of your left grip

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Mike
4 months ago

Misindentified Motor Type under Electronic Details. Motor Type: Rear-Mounted Geared Hub

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Court
3 months ago

Thanks Mike! I had cloned another BESV post to start this one (to get warranty info and just have a feel for what is different between models) and must have missed that field. I’ll update it right away ;)

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Christopher Moltisanti
3 months ago

I really liked it until the 2 step turn on process.

ForbinColossus
3 months ago

I'm surprised (and disappointed) Shimano that monster huge company - doesn't offer the most advanced display. The Bosch Nyon is now older and still much more advanced (in Europe anyway). And it's not removable - e-bike mfgrs need to recognize how bikes and their parts get stolen and design to minimize theft (like removable displays)

bikebudha01
4 months ago

there is no such thing as an 'electric bike', once the motor is on - ITS A FUCKING MOTORCYCLE.   And they should be banned...

tromboner98
4 months ago

How do you crank so many of these out? Do you have footage of like 30 reviews waiting to go at a time then just upload one a day?

siu c
4 months ago

any chance for a review of the besv trb1?

Mark Elford
4 months ago

Satisfaction on clicks and switches should have its own thumbs up category, good torque on that bike.

samuel Townsend
4 months ago

Beautiful bike well done Court my impression of this bike is how quickly it gets to 20 miles an hour around town. Off-road while mountain biking the power would be right there for you when you most need it I was also impressed by how well it held its line.

samuel Townsend
3 months ago

3LITA you are correct

3LITA
3 months ago

I believe BESV just won the Sea Otter Classic eMTB race with this bike.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

Indeed! The bike really zips ;) thanks for letting me demo it and for your gentle unbiased input beforehand. Hope things are going well at the shop :D miss you, Kanaka, and Myron

Dennis Dowd
4 months ago

I love the color scheme. The Shamona motor I am not familiar with. 😎 LX1 looks interesting.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

Yeah, the battery really doesn't stand out on this frame, even though it's not fully integrated. I think the colors and design pattern have a lot to do with that. The Shimano motor is pretty good, I did a comparison of the three big motors a while back, you can watch it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0a_eMmtFDA

edwin pringle
4 months ago

36v and 20 mph with a 25 mile range in boost mode but still only 20 mph with all the good stuff like the badass fox shox is such a waste, and $6500 is a joke. Not me. Why are these high dollar bikes going with 36v battery? What a waste. Just my opinion. Oh and by the way Court, great review as usual.

Richard Kim
4 months ago

Speaking of Luna, when are you going to make a visit and check out some of their cool bikes?

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

Thanks Edwin! I do my best to estimate range, but have seen some very impressive 36 volt systems that go the distance... when used in pedal assist mode. For a trail bike like this (with knobby plus sized tires), I tend to estimate lower range at the "Boost" level, since the terrain could be steep and the rider could be heavier. I'd probably get at least 35 myself, and I appreciate the lightweight battery. The Shimano (and most European mid-motors) aren't designed to work with 48 volts... and the lightweight efficiency makes them more "bike like" which is fine for some people. I'm sure there are others who prefer the Bafang mid-motors that are becoming a lot more powerful. It's neat to see Luna experimenting with carbon frames and high powered systems like this :)

MadCowTv
4 months ago

$6.5k that's a Honda crf250l or Yamaha 250. That's a good start on a house. Am I just cheap bugger or am I right?

Vadim Yeremin
3 months ago

Your right

D Danilo
4 months ago

Sure, MadCowTv, you can get the Honda 250 or the Yamaha. But then you've signed yourself up for a life of license, registration, insurance, etc. With the e-bike, there is little expense beyond the initial purchase price.

z352kdaf8324
4 months ago

A start on a house? maybe a shed around here. lol

Fiat Ziggurat
4 months ago

You're right, the M2S Carbon All Go is ½ the price, 5 lbs lighter and sleeker.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

I've got a special section of the site just for you :D https://electricbikereview.com/category/affordable/

Bona Fide
4 months ago

Very nicely put together bike, I like it. Also your reviews are far the best all over the internet! Congratulations!

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

Thanks! I'm glad you've enjoyed them... I always appreciate the feedback and do my best to evolve and improve over time with the information or style that people appreciate. Always open to input ;)

Dale Bowen
4 months ago

Just joined your review site, love it. I'm looking for that bike to have for work. I also want performance, but, I'm the 280 lbs guy. 5'-11" ,I ride a very heavy 21 speed next. Great reviews.

Dale Bowen
4 months ago

ElectricBikeReview.com my budget isn't set at this point. I'm leaning heavy toward the fat bikes, I just got done watching hobotech build a plus size mountain bike, with a bafung kit. He ordered all the bells and whistles. $2500 got him what I'm looking for. Semper-Fi

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

Cool, welcome Dale! Do you have a budget in mind? Perhaps you could get some ideas in the EBR forums "help choosing" section here https://electricbikereview.com/forum/forums/choosing/ or the top ranked bikes on this page: https://electricbikereview.com/best-electric-bikes/ I'm happy to chime in again here if you post your budget and style preference

christofinb
4 months ago

Hi
I love watching your reviews, great knowledge, plenty of enthusiasm and professional presentation skills.
Your passion for these bikes kind of rubs of too, one of the best channels on utube.

Christopher Moltisanti
3 months ago

By far the most honest and accurate.

DiGiTaLGrAvEDiGGA
4 months ago

Ya Court is da Man!!!

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

Wow, thanks for the compliment! I'm very thankful to get to share all of these cool bikes and support such a wonderful group of people with positive products. You made my day, thanks :)