Electra Townie Go! Review

2016 Electra Townie Go Electric Bike Review
2016 Electra Townie Go Azure Step Thru
2016 Electra Townie Go Bosch Performance Cruise Motor
2016 Electra Townie Go Powerpack 400 Battery
2016 Electra Townie Go Stitched Leatherette Grips
2016 Electra Townie Go Color Matched Fenders Chain Guard
2016 Electra Townie Go Shimano Nexus Internally Geared Hub
2016 Electra Townie Go
2016 Electra Townie Go Spanninga Integrated Headlight
2016 Electra Townie Go Twist Shifter
2016 Electra Townie Go Frame Types
2016 Electra Townie Go Comparison
2016 Electra Townie Go Electric Bike Review
2016 Electra Townie Go Azure Step Thru
2016 Electra Townie Go Bosch Performance Cruise Motor
2016 Electra Townie Go Powerpack 400 Battery
2016 Electra Townie Go Stitched Leatherette Grips
2016 Electra Townie Go Color Matched Fenders Chain Guard
2016 Electra Townie Go Shimano Nexus Internally Geared Hub
2016 Electra Townie Go
2016 Electra Townie Go Spanninga Integrated Headlight
2016 Electra Townie Go Twist Shifter
2016 Electra Townie Go Frame Types
2016 Electra Townie Go Comparison

Summary

  • The best Electra Townie Go! design I've tested to date, better weight distribution, increased efficiency and greater power thanks to the Bosch Performance Cruise drive system
  • Available in six different colors with matching aluminum fenders, chain guard, rims and carry rack, integrated LED lights front and rear, comfortable leather saddle with matching stitched grips
  • Available in two frame styles, high-step and step-thru, but only one size for each, no bottle cage mounting points but the rear rack is completely open and uses standard sized tubing for full compatibility clip-on panniers
  • Weaker roller style "band activated" brakes require more strength to use and seem to stop the bike slower, this is a heavier electric bike at ~58 lbs and neither wheel has quick release

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Introduction

Make:

Electra

Model:

Townie Go!

Price:

$2,729

Body Position:

Upright Relaxed

Suggested Use:

Neighborhood, Cruising

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

2 Years Comprehensive, Lifetime Frame

Availability:

United States

Model Year:

2016

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

58 lbs (26.3 kg) (Step-Thru 58.5, High-Step 57.5)

Battery Weight:

5.3 lbs (2.4 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.8 lbs (3.99 kg)

Frame Material:

6061-T6 Aluminum Alloy

Frame Sizes:

15 in (38.1 cm)17 in (43.18 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

Step-Thru (19" Stand Over Height, 25" Reach, 72" Length), High-Step (31" Stand Over Height, 25.5" Reach, 72" Length)

Frame Types:

High-Step, Step-Thru

Frame Colors:

Azure, Lime, Polished Silver, Army Green, Ebony, Graphite

Frame Fork Details:

Hi-Ten Steel Unicrown, Straight Tapered Leg

Attachment Points:

Rear Rack Bosses, Fender Bosses, Bottle Cage Bosses

Gearing Details:

8 Speed 1x8 Shimano Nexus Inter-8 Internally Geared Hub

Shifter Details:

Shimano Nexus 8-Speed Grip Twist

Cranks:

Forged FSA Alloy, 170 mm, Shimano 20T Cog

Pedals:

Alloy Platform wtih Non-Slip Rubber Tread

Headset:

1 1/8" Steel Threaded Semi-Integrated

Stem:

Forged Alloy, 22.2 mm Quill

Handlebar:

Townie 6061-T6 Alloy, Swept-Back

Brake Details:

Shimano Inter-M Roller Brakes with Shimano Nexus Alloy 4-Finger Levers (Reach Adjustable)

Grips:

Electra Semi-Ergonomic, Saddle-Matched Stitchd Leatherette

Saddle:

Velo Ergonomic with Shock-Absorbing Elastomers

Seat Post:

Alloy Double Bolt Micro Adjust

Seat Post Length:

350 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

27.2 mm

Rims:

Electra Custom Alloy Painted 36H

Spokes:

14G Stainless, Brass Nipples

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Fat Frank Balloon, 26" x 2.35"

Wheel Sizes:

26 in (66.04cm)

Tire Details:

Active Line K-Guard Puncture-Resistant Kevlar Casing, 67TPI

Tube Details:

Schrader Valve

Accessories:

Alloy Rear Rack, Spanniga LED Front (Kendo) and Rear (Pixeo) Lighting Set, ABUS Frame Lock, Painted Aluminum Fenders, Painted Rims, Massload Alloy Double-Prong Kickstand, Stainless Steel and Anti-Rust Hardware

Other:

Micro USB Charging Port on Display, Hold Reset and Information Button to Enter Settings (Navigate with Information Button, Select with Lighting Button), KMC X10e Chain 1/2' x 3/32"

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bosch Performance Cruise, Gen 2

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

350 watts

Motor Peak Output:

500 watts

Motor Torque:

60 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Samsung

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

11 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

396 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

3.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

20 miles (32 km)

Estimated Max Range:

110 miles (177 km)

Display Type:

Intuvia, Removable, Adjustable Angle, Grayscale, Backlit LCD

Readouts:

Speed, Assist Level (Eco, Tour, Sport, Turbo), Battery Level (1-5), Odometer, Trip Distance, Estimated Range, Clock, Max Speed, Average Speed, Trip Time, Shift Assist Recommendation

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad with Tactile Feedback on Left

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist Measures Wheel Speed, Pedal Cadence and Pedal Torque, Power Output Relative to Pedal Input: Eco 50%, Tour 120%, Sport 190%, Turbo 275%)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph) (25 km/h in Europe)

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Written Review

The 2016 Electra Townie Go! switched from using a SRAM hub motor and rear mounted battery pack to the Bosch Centerdrive which is better in pretty much every way. Now, it is more expensive than the 2014 and 2015 models at $2,727 and it does weigh more at ~58 lbs but you get an eight speed internally geared drivetrain and a lot more power that produces less noise when running! With a top speed of ~20 mph and an integrated rear rack the Townie Go! would make a decent commuter but it’s really best suited to relaxed neighborhood riding. There are four levels of pedal assist to work with here and the lowest, Eco mode, will move the bike at a slower speed for people who want to take it easy. The oversized Schwalbe balloon tires function almost like a basic suspension in that they absorb cracks and bumps as you ride, they do weigh a bit more but the contact patch is enlarged and they feel pretty stable. At 26″ in diameter they don’t lift the frame as high as more traditional 700c (28″) wheels and tires but you still get reflective sidewall stripes and Kevlar lining for safety and durability.

Driving this bike is a 350 watt Bosch Performance Cruise motor that measures bike speed, pedal speed and pedal torque (up to 1,000 per second) for instantaneous starts and stops. The motor spins your chainring that’s about half the size of most traditional rings and this higher RPM delivers a wider range of pedaling speeds in my experience. When you shift, the motor responds and eases off so as not to mash gears or put strain on the chain. Powering the motor and integrated Spanninga lights is a 36 volt 11 amp hour battery running on Samsung Lithium-ion cells. It’s the same Bosch PowerPack 400 I’ve seen for the past year and a half on other models here in the US and it works just as well. You can charge it on or off the frame and it locks securely but make sure you push hard when re-attaching it to the frame so that you hear a click and know that it’s fully connected. Just like the 2015 model this latest Townie Go! features a cafe lock that disables the rear wheel for quick stops around town – saving the hassle and discomfort of carrying a u-lock or chain.

The biggest takeaway from this review should be that the Electra Townie Go! with Bosch drive system is more expensive but it’s way better and quite worth the price in my opinion. Range is more than doubled, the frame is stiffer and better balanced, you get more gears to pedal with and while there still isn’t any sort of suspension on the bike it rides very comfortably with balloon tires, padded grips, oversized saddle, swept back bars and the signature “Flat Foot” seating position that brings pedals forward vs. straight down. The two frames are very similar in weight, come in a wide range of colors and are warrantied for two years by Trek (which acquired Electra in 2014). If you enjoy riding but are struggling to keep up with a friend, scale hills or fight the wind the electric Townie Go! will become your best friend, I am not exaggerating. The motor and battery are overkill but not in a bad way, they operate quietly but can climb almost anything, the display panel is large and easy to read with an intuitive button pad (easy to reach and use even without looking down). This is my favorite cruiser style electric bike to date.

Pros:

  • All Electra bicycles have to be shipped to a local Trek retailer but this is free of charge and from there some retailers will deliver to your house
  • Awesome two year comprehensive warranty, they recommend storing the battery in a dry room at 60° to 70° Fahrenheit and keeping it fully charged, expect a 5% degrade each year
  • Patented Flat Foot frame design positions the cranks and pedals forward for a more relaxed “legs out” ride style, kind of like sitting on a couch vs. a bar stool, this is enhanced with swept back handlebars and an oversized comfort saddle
  • The Bosch motor is extremely responsive and powerful delivering 60 Newton meters of torque, it keeps weight low and centered on the frame for improved handling
  • The Bosch battery pack can be charged on or off the frame, has a cool integrated loop for easier carrying and the way it’s mounted on the bike is much better than the older rack style batteries used by Electra Townie Go! models, the frame is less flexy, the display panel is also removable
  • Schwalbe Fat Frank Balloon tires look great and come in different colors to compliment the frames, they have integrated reflective sidewalls for safety, Kevlar lining for greater protection against flats and soften the ride by being squishy (absorbing cracks and bumps like suspension)
  • Integrated front and rear LED lights by Spanninga run off the main battery and are controlled through the Bosch Intuvia display panel! You need not worry about replacing batteries separately or turning each light off after a ride… it’s all one system and even the display panel is backlit
  • The fenders, rims and chain guard are all custom painted, sometimes the same color as the frame and other times to compliment the tires but it looks great in both cases
  • Most of the wires for shifting, braking and running the electric drive system are either run through the frame downtube or fastened in such a way that they are hidden and well protected
  • This ebike comes with an integrated cafe lock from ABUS that allows you to disable the rear wheel, perfect for deterring theft for quick stops without having to carry a large cable or u-lock
  • The internally geared hub offers eight speeds which is perfect for slower riding, climbing or hitting the top speed of ~20 mph but being internal it stays cleaner, can be shifted at standstill and allows the chain to be shorter and tighter, it probably requires less maintenance and is definitely less vulnerable than a traditional derailleur
  • The double-leg kickstand is very stable, it keeps the bike upright and makes loading the rear rack much easier than if you only had a single side stand, note that the stand is also adjustable on both sides for use on slanted terrain
  • The LCD display panel is backlit, removable for safer storage and even has a built in micro USB port that can be used for charging portable electronics like a cell phone for music or GPS applications, you’ll need a cable like this for most Samsung phones and an adapter like this for newer iOS devices

Cons:

  • There are no water bottle cage mounting points on either frame style, it seems like the high-step would have had room on the seat tube but they didn’t add them, consider a bar cup holder or a trunk bag with bottle slot like this
  • In my experience the Shimano Roller band brakes don’t stop as quickly as v-brakes or disc brakes, they look nice and even have heat sink fins that sort of look like disc brakes but they use a band inside and require a bit more pulling effort to stop
  • As with most cruiser style electric bikes, the Townie Go! weighs a bit more than a standard city bike, the frame is larger, the saddle and handle bar are larger and the internally geared hub adds a bit of weight as well, thankfully the battery is removable for reducing weight during transport but it only weighs ~5.5 lbs so the bike will still be heavy
  • Mid-drive electric bikes tend to be easier for bike shops to work on because the wheels and drivetrains are mostly unchanged, this also means that they work well with quick release systems but the Townie Go! does not offer this, it uses standard threaded axles with nuts that require tools to work on
  • The battery requires a stronger push to fully click onto the frame, make sure you hear the click or it could get knocked off and fall to the ground (scraping or even cracking the plastic cover)
  • Walk assist appears to be de-activated on the Bosch system, this would be a nice feature given the heavier weight of the Townie Go! and I’m not sure why Bosch hasn’t allowed it (possibly to strictly adhere to the Class 1 category of ebikes in the USA? I hope they enable it on future versions)

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Klatuu
1 year ago

That is the most beautiful e-bike I’ve seen! But what I want to know is what helmet are you wearing in the video?

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Court Rye
1 year ago

Hey Klatuu, cool name :D I agree with you, the Townie Go! is one of the most beautiful bikes I’ve tested and the different colors are awesome… To answer your question though, I’m wearing a helmet from Specialized called the Echelon II size Medium 54-60 cm (here’s a product page for the standard Echelon, not sure of the differences but you can search Google for the Echelon II for sale). I like this helmet because it’s bright white with reflectors built on and has an adjustable plastic slider at the back (with a little plastic wheel you twist). I’m able to wear it with my glasses and have owned it for over five years at this point and it’s doing well. I visited Specialized HQ in Morgan Hill California last year and got to see some of their new equipment (including helmets) they explained that as the foam and plastic becomes brittle or if you hit your head moderately hard even once it’s good to get a replacement so I may be due, I’ve enjoyed it a lot though and hope this feedback helps you find one yourself!

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Justin
1 year ago

In the review this bike is referred to as a great neighborhood bike, but perhaps not the best for longer commutes. I was just wondering your opinion on why? If this were a non-electric bike, the weight and inefficiency of it would certainly disqualify it. However, as an electric bike I would think that these would not be an issue when looking for the perfect commuter. What are the criteria that would make up an excellent electric commuter bike? I’m looking to purchase a bike for my wife who commutes 10 miles each way (80% bike path).

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Court Rye
1 year ago

Hi Justin! Sorry for the confusion… the Bosch powered Townie Go! would make an excellent commuter because it’s capable of traveling further per charge, is relatively comfortable and has the rear rack for cargo. There are ways it could be further improved for trekking or touring (suspension fork, suspension seat post, more active seating). I guess my comment in the video was more about ride style. The “Flat Foot” pedal position doesn’t always feel right to me for spinning quickly and offers less leverage for the legs… The trade off is a more upright body position and comfort. Since this is a Class 1 ebike you have to pedal and sometimes the wider saddle (which is often mounted lower by riders) creates a scrunched leg situation that can strain knees. I would consider the Kalkhoff Tasman Classic a more active long range commuter but the Townie is similarly capable if you set it up right. An ideal long-range commuter would be the Kalkhoff Agattu Impulse with the suspension fork and post (and like the Tasman Classic the pedals are more directly below vs. forward). I realize these are subtle differences, sorry to throw you off with the comment in-video. The Townie Go! Rocks and would probably be just fine, I see so many electric bikes that I can get a bit more critical at times and really zero in on the differences ;)

Odette
1 year ago

Hi I’m interested to buy that bike but I am just wondering if there is a maximum weigh for riding this bike ?

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Court Rye
1 year ago

Great question Odette, I am not completely sure but most ebikes I see out there limit weight at 250 or 300 lbs. My guess is that the Electra Townie Go! is similar but you could contact your local Trek dealer and ask them to be sure :) if you find out please comment here again to help others and I will add the information in the review!

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Mark
1 year ago

I’m looking at the Townie Go for cruising the neighborhood which includes some fairly steep hills. The Bosch system is 350 watts with a 36 v 11ah battery. I’ve been comparing it to the Bafang bbsd at 1000 w and 48 v 15-29 ah battery. Is it that more efficient? It seems underpowered for a guy like me who weighs over 200 lbs, yet in the review you stated it is overkill. Thanks for your reply!

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Court Rye
1 year ago

Hi Mark! If you do get a Bafang mid drive I recommend the 750 watt or even 500 watt BBS02 models vs. the BBSHD because it is illegal at 1,000 watts unless used on private property or off-road. The US limit is 750 watts or less and 20 mph or less with a throttle and both of those requirements are satisfied by the Bosch mid-drive (and other consumer ebikes). In my experience, it’s enough power and way more responsive and refined than the BBS02 but it is weaker and you don’t get a throttle… I don’t use the throttle as much now that I’m fully accustomed to riding electric bicycles. I like to pedal and feel the zoom of the motor helping, it feels natural and comfortable but there are advantages to power on demand, especially if your legs get tired or the street is wet or you need help getting going. E-Rad makes my favorite version of the BBS02 because it has shift sensing and can be made to fit a wide range of models. They also sell completely built electric bikes (the bike, the battery and the motor all combined just like the Electra Townie Go!) I hope these suggestions help you. If you live near a Trek dealer and can try the Townie Go! I would highly recommend it, you’d get excellent support and warranty by working with a local ebike shop but if you live near Las Vegas you could do the same thing with E-Rad because that’s where their headquarters is now :D

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Mark
1 year ago

Thanks Court! Townie Go’s are very hard to find and there aren’t any dealers locally that have one in stock to test ride. My wife and I plan on riding together. Our rides will be casual and certainly nothing over 20 mph so we liked the idea of a Townie Go. It also fits our other requirements such as fenders, comfort, upright riding position and wide tires. One downside is the cost to replace the battery. At $800 or more it is about twice the cost of a battery for a Bafang kit. It would be great if someone would produce an aftermarket battery for the Bosch mid drive at a substantial savings.

We may have to buy one sight unseen if we decide on the Townie, a little on the risky side. One other question, when you test rode the Townie with the Bosch motor, was there any resistance from the motor itself when you pedaled without electric assist? Your reviews and posts have been invaluable in this process of selecting the right ebike! Thank you so much! Mark

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Court Rye
1 year ago

Hi Mark, I cannot say for sure whether the motor creates resistance to pedaling… certainly the gear system that spins the sprocket at 2:1 will reduce efficiency but in my experience it’s hardly noticeable. When you coast, the rear wheel freewheels just like any ordinary bicycle so there’s no drag like you might find on a gearless direct drive hub motor (many of which offer regenerative braking to offset that cogging drag). I’m being very objective here, yes there will be some resistance. In practice, it’s not something I’ve ever noticed and while the battery packs for Bosch tend to cost more that’s in part due to the extremely high quality. Also, since they use the same pack for all of their designs 2013-2016 and possibly beyond… you have a large pool to draw from vs. something more custom. My Uncle has had and used a Haibike with the Bosch drive system for over a year and a half now riding every single day to work and back… sometimes for fun in the mountains or around town too, and he hasn’t noticed much degredation (and this is in Colorado where the temperature can range from below freezing to over 100 degrees). I think Bosch makes one of the best systems around and would actually see the Townie Go! as a lower risk “sight unseen” purchase. This is the third generation of the bike, they are now owned by Trek (one of the largest manufacturers worldwide) and Bosch is a clear leader. You and your wife will likely have a wonderful experience with the bikes. Here’s a video I shot with my Uncle discussing his Bosch powered ebike :)

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Mark
1 year ago

Thanks again Court. Your research is invaluable to those of us shopping for ebikes. Btw we are not going into this totally blind. We have test ridden Pedego Interceptors and I have test ridden a Pedego Ridge Rider to get a feel for the difference between pedal assist and torque assist. We also rented Pedego bikes that were throttle only. We went to a local Trek store that had non-motorized Townies and rode several of them. I’m reasonably certain that a Townie Go will work just fine for my wife who is petite and in great shape. I plan to buy her a Townie Go that she can enjoy and then see if it will handle my larger size especially up the hills in our area. If it does then I’ll buy a second one for me. If not, then I’ll be back with more questions. Thanks for helping.

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Court Rye
1 year ago

Sounds good Mark, hope everything works out! I bet your wife will love the bike :)

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Denise
1 year ago

Can this bike successfully pull a standard large dog trailer? I have a 110 lb pitbull that had surgery on both knees. He misses our long walks so I figured I could tow him around instead. This prompted my research into electric bikes. I’m petite and nearly 50 so it would be impossible without the electronic assistance.

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Court Rye
1 year ago

Hi Denise! My opinion on this is yes, a strong yes :) I don’t want you to be disappointed and suppose there are many factors to consider here like the trailer you get, how heavy you are, the terrain, even wind but the Bosch mid-drive is very powerful in my experience. Here’s another review with a video of me climbing a very steep mountain with nearly the same motor from Bosch doing just fine.

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Denise
1 year ago

Thanks for the quick reply. I’m running into a problem with the attachment of the trailer to the back fork of the Townie Go! because of it’s single chain setup. But I really love the Townie Go!. Can you recommend a similar bike. I can then research that. Your reviews are the best I’ve ever seen regardless of the product. You have made this decision much easier for me.

Leslie
1 year ago

I just purchased 3 days ago from my favorite local bike dealer the azure colored Townie Go! 8i. They didn’t expect to get it in until December 2016 and one came in so I was the lucky one who got it. I want to thank you for the excellent review video you did on this electric-assist bike. Your video was so thorough in explaining everything regarding the Townie Go!. You helped me learn very quickly all the features and how to use them. I can’t thank you enough for taking the time to create this video. I hope it stays on this website so that I can refer back to it whenever needed. I like your very clear style of explaining things and providing your opinion on what you really like about the bike and what could be better. This is one of the best review videos I’ve seen. THANK YOU!

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Court Rye
1 year ago

Wow, thank you SO much for all of the compliments and feedback Leslie! I really enjoy helping people, especially with technology that I view as healthy and positive but it’s a lot of work and can be exhausting to travel, shoot, edit, write etc. comments like yours make it all worth while. I too hope that this site can continue to offer honest, objective information (and comments!) for years to come. Enjoy your bike, I think you chose very well with the Townie Go! :)

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Leslie
1 year ago

Hi Court, thanks very much for your reply back to my comment. I forgot to add that, not only do I absolutely love riding my Townie Go and love how it looks, but I actually chose to buy this specific bike based on your review. I originally rode my very first electric bike in Kauai last October and enjoyed riding it so much that I knew my next bike would be electric. Last month, there was an electric bike Expo in our area and I had the opportunity to ride many different brands of electric bikes. I actually never saw the Townie Go while there (although my bike dealer said they had them at the Expo) but there were so many bikes to test ride I just never saw it. (On a side note, I did learn from the bike dealer that the bike I rode in Kauai was a true electric bike with a throttle and I didn’t have to pedal, whereas the bikes at the Expo were all electric-assist where you do have to pedal.) Anyway, I digress…of all the bikes I rode at the Expo I thought I liked the Trek the best so as I was doing some research online I came across your review of the Townie Go. I liked your review so much that I went to my bike dealer and asked to ride one. He didn’t have any of the step through bikes but he had the high step like the one you have in your video that I rode. The rest is history but I credit you and your video for my choice of the Townie Go. I was even willing to wait until December 2016 to get it but, as luck would have it, one azure step through came in to the dealer and since I was on the waiting list they called me first.

A question I have for you is that I don’t like not being able to see traffic behind me while riding. Is there a mirror that will fit on the Townie Go that you would recommend? I prefer not to use the mirror that you can attach to your glasses.

Again, I thank you for an awesome video. I have watched it 5 times now as I try to learn everything about my new bike.

Rob
1 year ago

Court: Thanks for all the reviews. I must have watched nearly all of them before settling on the Electra Townie Go 8i, Army Grey with the spectacular red tires. It will arrive in just 2 days at my local Trek shop. Your reviews are an incredible service. Thank you. Rob Price

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Court Rye
1 year ago

Great choice Rob, Electra really nailed it with their latest models (love that they come in multiple colors and the high-step/low-step configuration. I’m sure you’ll have a great time, hopefully the Trek dealer treats you right, it’s nice having a larger company for the support and fit services. Appreciate your kind words :)

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scott t
10 months ago

will the power pack 500 work on this bike…would it offer more range than the 400 that comes with the ebike?

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Court Rye
10 months ago

Hey Scott, great question… Yes, I believe the Electra Townie Go! and other ebikes that use the 2014/2015/2016 Bosch Centerdrive system with the PowerPack 400 are all forward compatible to work with the new 500 battery. It fits into the same interface and indeed, would offer more range. The really cool thing is that I believe it only weighs like 1/2 lb more so it’s a sweet upgrade!

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scott
9 months ago

I have a 2016 TOWNIE GO. It is a great bike. I have about 250 miles on mine so far (a few weeks of ownership). It is extremely comfortable courtesy of the riding position, plush saddle and fat frank tires. I have put some collapsible metal baskets and nylon trunk bag on the rack and this expands functionality. I will say the only drawback is the brakes and range. I’m a two hundred pound rider (in northern Nevada) and the band brakes are under powered or whatever the term for weak brakes is….and on a few occasions I have come close to meeting range max. Granted though, that is something an an extra battery on days that I know I will be riding longer on.

Many of the city styled bikes to me still have a bent over riding position that beats my shoulder up but not this one. The townie is great platform for an ebike. If you ride alot, go ahead and get an extra battery and then enjoy it till it falls apart.

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Court Rye
9 months ago

Hey Scott! Thanks for sharing your experience, glad to hear the Townie Go! is comfortable and mostly covers your riding habits (in terms of range). Have fun and be safe out there! Good accessory advice too, I like baskets and stuff, way better than wearing a heavy backpack – especially on a hot day in Nevada ;)

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Jeff
6 months ago

Hi Court, Let me begin by saying you’re the best. Whenever I look at your videos or read your write-ups I know I’m going to get as detailed and smart a review as is possible anywhere. You provide a most needed service and I credit you more than anyone else with making e-bikes more and more popular.

I’m an overweight senior and need all the exercise I can get. I bought a Townie 21 speed last June and found it great. It must be the upright position that’s best for me. I rode 650 miles between June and November (Chicago suburbs) and if felt so much better than a Giant Cypress (700c) bought in 2012. I average about 7 miles each outing at 12 mph but feel it’s getting more and more tiring. And what I really want to do is go faster and further. I’m thinking an e-bike is my solution and with my Townie success it seems like a “no brainer” that I should get the Townie Go.
Your review for the Townie Go is clear indicating the Bosch motor is 350 watts with 60 nm of torque. **So why does everyone else (including Electra) indicate the motor is 250 watts?**

And I’m a little bummed that it has roller brakes rather than disc brakes. I even read where roller brakes have grease packed in that provides a little resistance. Am I being too picky? **Are roller brakes fine for just touring paths and mostly level roads?** This is a big investment for my wife and I who also wants a Townie Go. Just thought I’d check these questions with the best source there is. Thanks much for all you do.

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Court Rye
6 months ago

Great question Jeff, I’m excited for you and your wife! Getting into ebikes has changed my life, allowing me to commute comfortably and enjoy riding like I was a young guy again ;)

I really love the Electra Townie Go! and think it will work for you, despite the less exciting roller brake and possibly downgraded 250 watt Bosch Active Line motor. The model shown here is from 2016 and it says Bosch Performance Line which I believe is 350 watts and a bit more zippy. They also have an Active Line motor that’s 250 with 50 Newton meters of torque vs. 60 and it’s designed to feel smoother… for neighborhood riding. My guess is that for 2017 they’ve switched motors and that’s not a bad thing. You can see the Active Line motor in action on the Tern Vektron here and even hear the company representative talk about why they chose it. If you live near a Trek dealer and can test this bike out, that would be my advice.

If it were completely up to me, I’d love to see hydraulic disc brakes on this bike vs. roller but the motor difference is less of an issue. Each company makes choices based on cost, durability and user experience. While I can’t speak for Trek/Electra, they are a leader in the space with great warranty support and Bosch only partners with the best brands. I wouldn’t hesitate too much though there are lots of other cruiser style ebikes out there… got another set of reviews on the way right now in fact. Feel free to share your thoughts or follow-on questions and keep an eye out :)

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hank
5 months ago

Court, Love your reviews. On the townie there seems to be confusion on the websites on the mid drive, I’ve seen 250 watts and also 350 watts listed. I live in Canada where the limit is 500 watts on motors. Could it be they are unloading European models here (250 watts ) and have a more powerful setup in the States?

Also on the throttle issue, is it true you can order it with throttle only setting in addition to the pedal assist modes if you specify that in the factory order, and they can set it there? How different is the forward style pedal setup, does it bear getting used to? Thanks

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Court Rye
5 months ago

Hi Hank, my understanding is that the hardware on Bosch motors is pretty similar but the software can be tuned for efficiency (Bosch Active), regular city riding (Bosch Performance) or high-torque mountain (Bosch CX) and even though the European models say 250 watts, that is more of a legal thing and the torque is still rated the same. I wouldn’t stress too much about the label… it bothered and confused me a bit when I started to realize there were different labels but I’ve tested a bunch of them and had great experiences all around. As for the flat foot design, some people really like it… There are lots of cruiser style ebikes with angled seat tubes that simulate flat foot but Electra / Trek has the patent for separating the bottom bracket from the seat tube connection point. The best way to make a decision about body positioning and ride preference is to go for a test ride if you can. I hope this helps!

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Mark Benson
5 months ago

Purchased 2016 Townie and absolutely love it. I have over a thousand miles in 5 months on the bike and enjoy the longer distances without painful knees. I am 68 years old and 220 pounds and this bike has great pick up and enough assistance for fairly steep hills. If I take it to the store where folks pass by they tend to stop and ask about the bike, and some have asked for a test ride and came back with a wow smile. The stopping power of the bike is no problem at all – no worries about the braking system for sure. A great buy for a quality bike!

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Court Rye
5 months ago

Hey Mark! I enjoyed your testimonial, thanks for taking the time to share about your experience! It’s great that you’re also sharing the bike and exposing new people to electric ;)

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Monica Stevenson
4 months ago

I purchased the Townie Go in April of 2016. I now have over 1100 miles on my bike. I had originally “pre-ordered” the Copenhagen Wheel planning to use it on my Townie — but after waiting 2 1/2 years for it to be shipped, I gave up and ordered the Townie Go. I understand that they are now shipping the Copenhagen Wheel — but if I had waited, I would have missed out on over 1,000 miles of riding! The bike is super comfortable and allows me to ride most anywhere — plus long distances. I’m 64 years old and am constantly telling anyone who listens — “you gotta buy one of these.” I’ve never had an issue with the brakes and the battery seems to hold well for at least 45 miles — sometimes over 50. I bought mine at REI and the service on it has been excellent. My biggest complaint is that there aren’t more people who have e-bikes to ride with! The Cafe lock is also a super plus — anyone who tries to steal my bike is going to have to carry out — and it’s pretty heavy for that!

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Court Rye
4 months ago

Hi Monica! I enjoyed your comment, sounds like you’ve had a blast with the Townie Go! Good for you, recognizing the wait of the Copenhagen Wheel and finding something else. I’m with you… good to get out there and enjoy riding, regardless of the bike. I’m just so happy that the Townie Go! has been working so well for you :)

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Dewey
4 months ago

It’s interesting to see how Electra are expanding the Townie Go! line with two new urban-oriented models that address one of your criticisms – tektro hydraulic brakes are now fitted to the Townie Commute Go! and Loft Go! Both new models are equipped with larger more efficient 700C tires, more swept back handlebars, and rear and front cargo racks with the front light relocated to right of the front rack to not obstruct the light when riding with a load.

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Court Rye
4 months ago

Cool! I haven’t seen those in person yet but appreciate your feedback here Dewey. Will keep an eye out and hopefully, this comment helps people who might have similar questions or concerns.

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Randy
4 months ago

I would like to see a review of the Loft Go! 8i. I’ve been shopping for my wife for 3 months and this bike looks like the perfect e-bike for her.

Pete
3 months ago

Court, I have just purchased a 2018 Townie Commute Go and it has been updated from the 2016/2017 that you have reviewed here. Tektro hydraulic disc brakes are standard now along with front and rear fender racks. The handle bars are curved back and allows a straight up natural sitting position. The pedals are pushed forward and makes the ride much more comfortable. I have had three hip replacements and a knee scope. I have only a 78 degree hip bend and found most other bikes impossible to peddle. I simply could not get my leg to raise high enough to peddle a bike. This one I can and with very little problems.

You need to review this version and let your readers know of the benefits for older riders. Comes with the Bosch 250W drive system and tops out at 20 mph. The walk mode is not enabled on this bike and the kick stand is mounted forward, but those are the only things I find that I wish where changed. This will become your new favorite cruiser. We also have on order a Loft Go for my wife. The frame is lighter and overall the bike is about 5 pounds less than the Commute go coming in around 45 pounds. The Bosch 250w system has been tuned down also on this bike due to the lighter weight of the bike. Wheel base is also about 2.5 inches shorter and the angle of the seat tube is 2 degrees less. It has all the features of the Commute go in a slightly smaller package that fit my wife better. She is 5′ 2″. Keep up the great reviews. They made our decision on which bike to purchase much easier.

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Court Rye
3 months ago

Hi Pete, thanks for your thorough update! I’m looking forward to reviewing the new Townie models and appreciate your insights about the handlebar and pedal position. I hope the bike works great for you and will keep my eye out for a review soon :)

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Marleen
1 month ago

Hi Pete,

As someone who is also looking into buying one of the new Electra Go! bikes may I ask you if the Loft Go! you ordered for your wife has already been delivered and put to the test? And if so, if your considerations on the bike being better suited for her, being a bit smaller, compared to the Commute Go! indeed turned out to be true? Since these bikes are very hard to find and test ride (at least here in Europe) your wife’s experiences could be very helpful! Not only to me ( I am looking for a safe, stable cruiser style e-bike for my still very fit, but not too tall 5ft4 mum who’s 72 ) but to a lot of other interested more senior ;-) riders. Thank you in advance Pete!

And thank you also for describing the differences you noticed between the Commute and Loft Go! in the first place for that already helped a lot! I was actually searching all over while you already mentioned some of the most relevant differences (the weight, the step thru height) right here! I guess I really am still a rookie here on this forum…. ;-) Hope to hear from you!

Kind regards from The Netherlands! Marleen

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Jeff Lieber
2 months ago

Court, I wanted to follow-up after my 3-6-17 note to you with Townie Go questions. And to let you know that my wife and I did get new Townies-Gos. We test rode the bike at a nearby dealer and were really happy with the ride. Your reviews already “sold” us on the Bosch mid-drive motor so with great pricing the Townie-Go seemed like a winner. Our biggest problem though was the bright “funky” colors Electra had. We preferred the black (Ebony) color but those white tires… Ugh… they were just not to our liking. So to help make a double sale our bike shop agreed to swap the white tires for the same exact black Schwalbes but with reflective strips (another of your suggestions). The bikes now became perfect for us.

I got the last black “D-Frame” available from California on 3-22-17. Unfortunately my wife wasn’t so lucky and her 1 month wait for the black step-through turned into 2.5 months. We were told that the current demand for these bikes in black would be 6 months today. Wow. Here’s what I learned from my first 200 miles on the bike.

Some of the Pros:

  • The rear internal 8-gear hub is just the best. It’s easy and smooth and so quiet. I never hated my derailleur bikes before but this was just a great improvement. And I was even able to easily adjust the gear cable when it became stretched early on (normal I’m told).
  • The instantaneous start and stop of the Bosch motor is fantastic. I can’t imagine what it would be like with any sensor delay.
  • The wider tires (3.35 Fat Frank) add a lot more comfort and stability.
  • No suspension but we do eliminate any front tire movement and hopefully get maximum efficiency.
  • The Intuvia display is great. Easy to use and the left hand extra remote is perfect.
  • Front and rear lights tied into the system (with a switch on the display) make it really complete.
  • Your term “purposeful built” began to mean a lot to us. Other than the cables in the front, the rest seem either all internal or completely hidden. So nice.
  • And no need for brake-lever motor cut-offs since the motor cuts out as you stop peddling. Simple and perfect.
  • I never thought this was important but now we agree with you it’s so nice to not have the kickstand interfere with the pedals. And the scissor kickstand adds a lot of stability.

And very few Cons:

  • Like you say “it would have been nice to at least have one set of bottle cage bosses?” But we have a lot of storage between my rear rack bag and my wife’s added front basket. So we’ll be fine for our long trips.
  • Getting picky, I just didn’t like the hand grips. They maybe stylish but I wanted some rubber gel types. I bought some inexpensive ones and they’re locking too. Nice.
  • The newer 500 battery would have been nice but I am getting 50-55 miles of range on our 400 and with me being a heavy guy that seems great.

What I left out are the roller brakes. I just couldn’t decide if it was Pro or Con. We’ve never had any type of disk brakes to compare it with so maybe we’re not the best judge. But we found these brakes work just fine for us in our mostly flat midwest terrain (50 miles NW of Chicago). No major hills or big descents like other areas of the country. And these brakes seem to give us no noise and make the bike look simpler and cleaner.

Overall we’re very satisfied with our Townie e-bikes. We feel lucky to have the high quality Bosch Performance Line (with 63 NM of torque) which gets more than enough power. Any more power would just be over-kill for our riding. And lastly, your reviews taught us so much about e-bikes. We feel we owe you a lot for all your help.

Thank you, Thank you, Jeff Lieber

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Court Rye
2 months ago

Wonderful writeup Jeff, thanks for taking the time to prepare this and reflect on the experience. I’m sure others here will find it useful! The Townie Go! is one of my favorite recreational electric bicycles and it sounds like they are selling pretty well. Maybe Electra / Trek reps will see your points about colors and grips for future iterations. In the mean time, it’s great that you found some upgrades that work well for you. Enjoy the ride!

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Steven Shepard
1 week ago

Hi Court, There are just so many variables when choosing an e-bike, and you seem to be “the guy” when it comes to e-bike knowledge, so here’s my want list:

  1. Mid Drive
  2. Pedal assist
  3. internal gearing (would really like a Nuvinci CVT)
  4. Relaxed Riding Position
  5. Fat Tire and/or Cruiser style
  6. High capacity battery
  7. down tube mounted battery
  8. Front suspension
  9. Hydraulic brakes

My “deal Killers”:

  1. Front Wheel motors
  2. No pedal assist
  3. High price (over $4,000.00)

My current short list (this seems to change daily):

  1. RadRover
  2. E-Lux Tahoe
  3. Evelo Aries
  4. Electra Townie Commute Go i8
  5. iZip Sumo/Raleigh Magnus IE (these seem to be the same bike with different names)
  6. Ohm Sport
  7. iZip E3 Dash

My emotional favorite is the E-lux Tahoe, it’s a beautiful bike. The Radrover seems like great fun at a great price and is my wallets favorite, I just added the E3 Dash as it would be fast and fun, I haven’t researched it yet but there is likely a Raleigh branded version of the E3 dash that may have some slightly different colors or other options.

Anyway, based on my short list, what do you think, which would you choose and why?

Thanks, Steve

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Court Rye
1 week ago

Hi Steven, I’d consider the Magnum Metro for its power, low price, tire style, and accessories… even though it doesn’t have a mid-motor. I love E-Lux and their Tahoe model is indeed a wonderful powerful bike (more powerful feeling than the Metro in my experience). For mid-drive powered ebikes, the best value right now seems to be the Bulls Cross E which uses Bosch. For under $3k you get an amazing bike but it doesn’t have the fatter tires or internal gearing (none of these do). You might need to explore Riese & Müller for NuVinci systems and they cost a lot more… and weigh a bit more as well. I hope this helps! Another consideration at the most affordable end could be the Surface 604 Rook. I’ll be reviewing the Electra Comute Go! very soon as well, it’s a great e-bike.

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Alexander T.
8 hours ago

My wife and I bought Pedego City Commuter Classic bikes in early 2014; they are 2013 models rated at 48V, 15AH. They have been fun to ride but we have had issues. I had to have my handlebars replaced within the first year because they wouldn't stay firmly in place. This was done under warranty. We have found that the bikes sometimes derail when hitting potholes. One time my sensor got knocked out of position when I hit a pothole, disabling the pedal assist feature; it had to go to a dealer to be repaired, at my cost. My wife's computer failed when the bike was about 2 and half years old and had to be changed out at her cost. My entire power system failed a few weeks ago and now it is in the shop being diagnosed. The batteries have lost some of their power. Pedego says on their website that the batteries are supposed to last 2-4 years. I got a quote from a Pedego dealer for a replacement battery at $1,095. I have been checking on battery replacement costs for other brands and after 4 quotes from other brands I saw a range of $499 (Emazing) to $780 (Kalkhoff). So $1,095 for a new battery is high. Also, an Electra rep stated to me in an e-mail that the Bosch battery their Townie Go! uses will work at optimum capacity for 5,000 charges, which Bosch states is typically 8-9 years. The Electra/Bosch replacement battery is $750. While Pedego offered a good bang for the buck in early 2014, they would not be my first choice for a new bike in 2017.

Alexander T.
9 hours ago

I purchased a Townie Commute Go! 8i less than a week ago and have ridden approximately 10 miles on it. It rides nicely. One of the features of the bike is a built in frame lock for quick stops in relatively secure areas. The frame lock has the Abus brand name on it. I found the frame lock difficult to use the first 3 times I used it. It was a little difficult to insert the key and it has a spring loaded lever which is used as part of the locking process. The key was sticky in the lock and I would have to fuss with it to get the key to come out after loading the spring lever. This frame lock requires that the key stay inserted when unlocked, which means that the key (and key ring) dangle at your side as you ride. And this pretty much forces one to use the frame lock when stopped, even if using an external lock. Otherwise someone could come along, see the key hanging out, lock the bike, and then steal the battery after removing the key. The third time I went to use the frame lock, it failed in the locked position. It looks like the tumbler fell into the lock. This was incredibly inconvenient, as I couldn't roll the bike away after removing my external lock. It had to be transported to a bike repair shop by vehicle.

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Mark23
7 days ago

Thanks for your reply. I have an existing bike that I like - if I were going to go the kit route, I would add it to that. Same for my wife. It just seemed that for the price of the kit, I might as well get a bike designed to be an electric bike. But if I don't find what I'm looking for, maybe I should revisit the kit approach. If you added a kit to this bike, I would like to hear more about your experience and whether the kit gives you the typical benefits of e-bikes - peddle assist, throttle, display, adequate power, etc. Thanks, Mark.

I'm wondering if you've ever ridden an Electra Townie? This would be a great cruiser to put an Ebike kit on (in
my opinion). The first one I rode, I was hooked. The Townie has 2 inch tires which I really like. A very comfortable
bike.

Katman4532
1 week ago

I'm wondering if you've ever ridden an Electra Townie? This would be a great cruiser to put an Ebike kit on (in
my opinion). The first one I rode, I was hooked. The Townie has 2 inch tires which I really like. A very comfortable
bike.

Katman4532
1 week ago

@Over50, the TownieGo does come in a low step version, still 26" wheels. If you think that's still a little large for her take a look at the Pedego Step-Thru Interceptor with 24" wheels; the overall sizing is scaled down but the same size motor & power.

Court has a Guide with suggestions for bikes for smaller people; it's a good starting point. There are also newer reviews, too.

@Katman4532, glad to hear that you're out & about in our Texas summers; happy trails!
I think you're right about the low step version being great for shorter people. I would love to get my wife on an Ebike.
I have to keep turning off the assist to let her catch up!

Ann M.
1 week ago

@Over50, the TownieGo does come in a low step version, still 26" wheels. If you think that's still a little large for her take a look at the Pedego Step-Thru Interceptor with 24" wheels; the overall sizing is scaled down but the same size motor & power.

Court has a Guide with suggestions for bikes for smaller people; it's a good starting point. There are also newer reviews, too.

@Katman4532, glad to hear that you're out & about in our Texas summers; happy trails!

Katman4532
1 week ago

The Townie is a bit big with those 700c tires. The ride is very nice, it's suitable for mild trail riding such as the
Wetherford to Mineral Wells trail. Are you familiar with that one? My wife and I are considering a trip up to
Palo Duro canyon this fall. I did a mini review on the Townie for "Marleen" under the Electra brand thread. Hopefully,
that will give you additional useful information. I'm considering trading in my old Trek 6000 for a Trek lift+ next
year. Depends on how much I get back into trail riding again.

Samuel Townsend
1 week ago

If you are in the So Cal area on Saturday Aug 26th be sure to stop by and say hi. Some added attractions will be clinics on how to clean and maintain your bike, battery maintenance and flat tire repair. Fullerton Bikes will be attending and will have demos from Giant and Townie. With over 12 manufacturers on hand to help educate you on your next EBike purchase. Mark it on your Calendar this is the event you've been waiting for. We look forward to seeing you here.

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Over50
1 week ago

Just recently purchased my first Ebike, a Townie Commute Go. Thanks to the riding position, carpal tunnel
syndrome is no longer a problem. Even though I'm in my sixties, I feel like a kid again!
Howdy right back at ya and welcome to the forum. I'm a born and raised West Texan but now living in more northern climes. I was fond of taking my mountain bike down around Ft Davis State Park and even once ran into a group of Javalinas (or Peccaries I suppose). And I used to mountain bike in Palo Duro Canyon as well. But my avatar/photo is the Franklin Mountains State Park which was almost my backyard growing up. And I have good memories of hunting fossils and arrowheads in the Guadalupe Mountains, the Pecos River, around Carlsbad etc ... but now I feel the nostalgia setting in so best get back to ebikes. How do you find that Townie? I've been eyeing that brand for my wife but most of their models seem a bit big for her - at least those I've seen at my local Trek shop.

Katman4532
1 week ago

I also recommend the Trek Lift+, even though I bought the Townie Commute Go. I took a test ride at our
LBS on one. Very impressed. I only went with the Townie because I planned on using an Ebike mostly for
street use. With that said, I may see if the LBS will take my old Trek 6000 as a trade in sometime in the future.
Not sure how I'll be able to sneak it home without the wife finding out.

Katman4532
1 week ago

I have a new bike (under warranty) with an odd "glitch." I just need an idea what I'm dealing with.
Whenever I've shifted into 5th gear with the assist on, after a quarter to a half mile the crank acts like it
has jumped a chain link. It may happen several times while riding. Now for the odd part. I rode over a mile
in fifth gear with the assist off, and nothing happened. In fact, with the assist off it behaves completely normal. This problem only seems to happen in fifth gear with the assist on. All the other gears are fine. Any ideas? Thanks!

Katman4532
1 week ago

Hello to Marleen and anyone else who may be interested in the Townie Commute Go,
Last night, my wife and I rode after dark on a road with no street lights. The light on the Townie
was bright enough to see the road easily. Today I rode just over 18 miles mostly in Eco mode, but sometimes with
the assist turned off. I accidentally stumbled on some 4x4 trails today along an area lake. The "siren call" of these
trails was too much to resist, so off I went. I was actually pleasantly surprised at how well this bike did. I wouldn't
recommend doing this on a regular basis, but it did confirm that it can be used on mild trails. I plan on going back
to these trails again, but with my old Trek 6000. One other experiment my wife and I did had to do with
rolling resistance. My wife has an old Trek Navigator mountain bike with street tires. While going up a gradual
incline, we both stopped pedaling at the same time and just coasted. The Townie pulled ahead. The same thing
happened going down a small hill. Nothing scientific, but interesting results. So far, this bike has been a real joy
to ride. The only problem I'm currently having occurs in fifth gear with the assist on. The bike "acts" like the chain
briefly jumps ahead. It may do this several times, but only in fifth gear and with the assist on. Oh well, that's what
a warranty is for.

Katman4532
1 week ago

Just recently purchased my first Ebike, a Townie Commute Go. Thanks to the riding position, carpal tunnel
syndrome is no longer a problem. Even though I'm in my sixties, I feel like a kid again!

Katman4532
1 week ago

Hi Marleen!
I realize this is an old thread, but I recently took possession of a Townie Commute Go. So, here is my mini-review.
First of all, this bike is heavy; perhaps a little heavier than the Townie Go. I live in West Texas which is mostly flat
terrain similar to where you live. I bought this bike sight unseen simply going by my experience on a regular Townie.
The first thing I noticed is that this bike is quite tall with the 700c tires. In fact, unless the seat was lowered almost all
the way, I could not sit "flat footed", (I'm 5ft. 10in. Tall). The bike itself seemed to be very well made with very clean
welds. On my first ride, I purposely left the assist off for the first mile which consisted of 1/2 mile flat road with a 20 mph
crosswind. Next half mile was slight incline with a 20 mph headwind. I had no trouble pedaling in first gear at 6 to 8
Mph. I was concerned about how difficult this would be to pedal with a dead battery. Not bad at all. The next 5 miles
was done on the eco setting (20 mph headwind and rolling terrain). At the 6 mile point, I turned around (time constraints) and pedaled back with the assist off doing between 15 and 23 mph. Two days later, I did a 10 mile circular
ride and then a 6 mile trip to the LBS for a gel seat cover (highly recommended) using mostly the tour setting. Altogether,
I've put almost 31 miles on the bike using 2 out of 5 "bars" battery power. So, here's my opinion so far. The bike is
taller than what I would have liked, however, traffic has no trouble seeing me. The drive system is quiet and seems to
give a boost that comes on subtly but increases as needed. Very nice. I don't think the weight will be a factor since your
terrain is flat. You will want to use the boost coming out of an intersection. I'm going to ride after dark tonight to see
how well the lights work. The ride is very comfortable with the gel pad on the seat, in fact, perhaps the most comfortable
bike I've ever owned. I'm in my early sixties and fit for my age; pedaling with the assist off is quite doable. My only two
complaints are the height and weight. Hope this helps. Feel free to ask any questions!

Dewey
1 week ago

I'm hoping to find dealers to test ride these suggestions.

Trek have recently expanded their shop network and can order bikes from other stores for you to test ride. Kalkhoff is harder to find, I know of dealers in CA, NY, and DC but the motor can be serviced by a Bosch certified technician of any brand using their motors. The Gazelle Arroyo is similar to the Kalkhoff Agattu and Gazelle have dealers in Chicago and across the US. The Daymak EC1 is lightweight for an ebike at 38lb but the diamond frame forward leaning design is not a townie/city upright style, the dealers are in Canada, and the 24v hub motor on their base model is modest. I first tried a 24v hub motor before I switched to a 36v mid-drive motor because I found the smaller motor could not pull me up hills unloaded whereas I can now go grocery shopping and tow a child trailer.

crispyduck
2 weeks ago

I've read so many reviews I can't keep them straight! have a Promaster van that I've turned into a camper. The rig will be complete when I find an e-bike that I can get onto the rack by myself! I also want to use it for recreation, 10-20 mile rides (so I've ruled out folding bikes) and regular grocery shopping. I live in a small town with a few options but they are all too heavy. I'm 5'5" and strong but 65.
I'm weak in the maintainance dept. so reliability is key.
I love the ones I rode with a throttle but am concerned they won't be allowed on the bike paths when ebikes are approved. Thanks for your input!

jasond1979
3 weeks ago

I have the Townie go and I can definately say that it is a 20MPH bike. I put the cadence dongle around the magnetic pickup to half the registered speed. And even with that on I found that above 20 say even 22 or 23 the gearing of the internal hub just didn't allow me to comfortably hold that speed, unless I was spinning like the Roadrunner.
Bottom line if you want a faster bike, buy a faster bike

jasond1979
3 weeks ago

I took my Townie Go Bosch Performance motor in for some work at the local dealer. For some reason the battery wouldn't charge beyond 75% and it would turn on in my bike. Well they upgraded the software to 1.7 cleared out all the errors and the bike works better than before. So I would say from my experience that you should defininately upgrade you system to 1.7 from 1.6, I feel that the bike runs smoother, and it also seems that I have more range on my bike for some reason. Maybe just my imagination but it seems that it shows more range than before. Also I didn't really like version 1.6, it seems I started having problems when I upgraded to 1.6. Bottom line upgrade to 1.7

Marleen
1 month ago

Another update!

Ok so today my mum actually got to take a little spin on a regular (so non-electric) step thru Townie just to be able to experience its fit in order to maybe eliminate it from the three available Electra ebike options beforehand. Or to instantly get hooked and just forget about the rest ;-)
We actually managed to find one(!) step thru Townie at some local bike rent company we've never paid any attention for they are of course for tourists only ;-)

The pro's first. She felt, like on any Electra bike, safe and stable and more importantly, the steer luckily turned out to be much less straight and narrow than expected! That was really the biggest surprise/ relief.
On the other hand, and even though her Electra cruiser also has 26inch wheels, she kept on saying she somehow felt like riding a kids bike?!
But I should add this probably also had to do with the fact that the bike was stripped of any fenders, racks whatsoever, which somehow made it look(!) a lot smaller. 'Look' because when we put it next to a 'fully dressed' mens/ step over Townie, that initially looked much taller, it turned out they actually were the exact same height! So quite the optical illusion there I guess.
After properly measuring the step thru height (I just made that up ;-) but I mean the crank and tube height combined) of the Townie, it indeed turned out to be even lower(!) (about 5cm/2 inch) than on her step thru Electra cruiser.

So while the Townie model is definitely not eliminated, she now also is really convinced the slightly bigger 28inch wheels on the Commute and Loft, with the matching slightly higher placed crank and step thru positions, should be much less of an issue. Plus as long as the model still has the flat foot technology, the mounting of the bike should automatically become less of an issue.

As for the difference between the Bosch Active and Performance line: I suddenly realised the Urban Arrow Family bike we presented as a gift to my brother and his family is actually equipped with the more powerful Performance line. (At the time the bike shop accidentally sold our ordered gift bike to someone else.... so as an apology they offered a free upgrade to the Performance line)
So I can now say, out of my own experience, being familiar with both, I really can't tell the difference! Then again I should emphasize, this is in The Low Countries; so only in non-hilly conditions.
But I think I can safely say that in our mostly flat Dutch landscape the difference between the Performance (Townie and Commute) and the Active (Loft) seems of no real importance when it comes to choosing one. Apart from the slight difference in their reach as I have mentioned before. +20km in lowest support mode (eco) +1km in the highest support mode (turbo)
Cool for by 'eliminating' as much of these 'complicating' extra's, my mum can just focus on what is really most important to her; her actual seating/cycling position.

But I guess most of all this proofs just how very important an actual test ride is!!
And of course, with that being said, how very valuable these awesome test ride video's Court does really are!
Im still convinced there is no such thing as too much information when it comes to the tech specs; I still want to know as much as detailed as possible, but eventually riding a bike yourself and/or watching someone else doing just that and telling about that is still the best tool for making a good choice!

Ok that's it for now
And needless to say if anybody has any experiences with any of the new Commute and or Loft Go! bikes please don't be shy!
To be continued!

Marleen
1 month ago

A quick update!

So the best news first! For it actually looks like we are, after all, going to be able to test ride all three Go! models ourselves somewhere in, hopefully, fingers crossed, the near future.
And even in The Netherlands! Yippee!
So a big thank you to Bram @ Electra Benelux
My mum shall test the step thru Townie Go! and Loft Go! I shall test the step over Townie Commute Go!
Of course I shall, at the time, do a full and extensive review here!

- As for the mystery about the walk assist function: according to Electra Benelux walk assist is now enabled on all Go! bikes, at least in Europe, and otherwise you could apparently(?) always let your local mechanic enable it still. Only the very first Go! models didn't have any walk assist at least that is what I am told.

- Then about the difference between the Active and Performance line. I am told it is in effect almost not noticable for the rider. Albeit the performance line being a more powerful motor indeed, it mostly has to do with the way the power is distributed and not so much with how you actually experience it while cycling.

Gazelle uses the same Bosch system and they report only a small to a very small difference between the Active and Performance line when it comes to their reach.
Combined with a 400Wh accu the performance line allows you to go 20km further when you are using the Eco mode (which is the lowest support mode) but while using the most powerful Turbo mode the difference is reduced to only 1km?!

You can see it below: (and learn some Dutch while you are at it ;-)

- As for the weight of the bikes; apparently they all weigh somewhere between 25 and 26kg.
So no really big differences there.

That's it for now!
Still looking very much forward to Court his pro-review and findings and discussing the outcomes of his testing here!
And then of course to our very own testing that, fingers crossed, hopefully will take place soon and on which I shall report extensively here then.

Marleen
1 month ago

Court thanks for your feedback, as always very much appreciated!
And for your kind words! You must know my mom is equally if not much cooler than I am ;-) and I am just as happy and proud for having her in my life and riding bikes.
I always say she is The Original I am 'just' The Remix ;-) She disagrees, of course ;-)
But ok I shall stop this shameless pouring of love now for this is after all a bike forum!

Although you are quite right to point out that I have a deep and rather strong love for Electra too, the feeling just hasn't been completely reciprocated yet ;-) but I remain optimistic!
I actually am in contact now with the freshly appointed manager for the Benelux area so that's a start ;-)
While he still has to set up shop here properly, as he only started this brandnew(!) job last monday, he seems like a nice guy and willing to help us.
Besides trying to answer the already mentioned questions / issues raised here, he actually promised to try and get one demo bike (most probably the Loft Go!) from Hamburg to the Third World Bicycle Country that is The Netherlands ;-) Hallelujah! ;-)
I am of course still trying, as hard as I can, with all my super powers, to persuade him to ship all three! For naturally I would still very much prefer for us to be able to check out and test ride all of the available models before actually buying one.

Especially because, while we are familiar with all the different cruiser models from Electra, neither of us have ever taken a ride on an actual Townie model! And the Townie is quite different compared with the classic cruiser. I mean with its much smaller and straight steer you just have to end up being in a very different seating position than on a cruiser while cycling? To me it seems you would be in a less laid back position? I am now actually trying to hunt down a regular Townie somewhere in the neighborhood asap so we could at least try the fit of this bike first. I mean it would help a lot were we to find out we could eliminate the Townie from the options. Or if it turned out to be the complete opposite of course.

Which leads me to another interesting question; why is there actually no electric version of the cruiser model? So an Electra Classic Cruiser Go! It seems pretty odd right, especially considering all of the different new ebike models Electra has now presented. And considering that, to me at least, the cruiser is still the ultimate embodiment of what Electra is.

So all in all chances are still pretty big we shall head to Hamburg in the near future to be able to check out and test the entire Go! family ourselves. So yes I guess that is how far (pun unintended sorry) our Electra love goes ;-) In which case btw we shall of course report on our findings extensively right here!

Weird story about leaving out the walk assistance option btw.
Now the rules on the European market are of course different to those in the US. Here in The Netherlands there are f.e. no such classifications or legal limitations to enabling a function like walk assist. But I was told that the first generation Bosch Go! bikes form Electra indeed also didn't have this feature in Europe. I am still waiting for a final answer from Electra Benelux about whether they have in the meantime altered this for the European market; meaning this function could now indeed be enabled in Europe. To be continued!

The point you made Court about the potential risk of the moving pedals with walk assist is indeed something to take into account. On the other hand most bikes here that actually have walk assist don't have their pedals moving when it is turned on. I think that depends on the type of gears you have on the bike? My guess is the only plausible explanation for it being disabled Stateside is out of fear for legal liability. In Europe we have completely different legislation when it comes to this. Then again chances are slim they will make an exception for Europe for all the bikes are imported from the US here if I am right? Much easier of course to make just one type per model bike for the whole market.

Quite an eyeopener btw to point out here that the Townie Loft actually sports a different, less powerful, model Bosch motor (the Active line) Whereas both the Townie Go and the Commute Go! actually sport the more powerful Bosch Performance line. I actually have printouts of the different specs on the Electra website so my mum and myself could visualize the differences better, but on these the difference between active and performance line motor is not mentioned. It is on the website but somehow just not on these? (These print-outs appear after you click on the small specs plus print icon top left on the picture of any choosen bike on the Electra website)

But I like your thoughts on why they might have opted for this less powerful motor on the Loft model. ("slower to start, weaker overall so it will expand battery range and feel safer and more predictable to riders maybe") Therefore it might even end up being a better option when more safety and stability are your absolute priorities!
But then again on paper the overall position just seems less relaxed, less laid back. It somehow reminds me of the citybikes the Italians ride. I don't know if anybody else knows what I am talking about here? Plus the saddle doesn't have the shock absorbing elastomers like the Townie and Commute, it does have a spring though. Curious what kind of an effect that has.

And then there are the 28 inch tires, not as fat as the 26 inch fat franks on the Townie Go! plus they do bring up the whole bike just that tad bit higher. When you look at the pictures of the different models next to each other, it even looks like the distance between the crank and the upper tube is a bit bigger with both the Commute and the Loft. This seems irrelevant but when you are older and/or smaller this could just turn out to be that tad bit annoying when mounting/ dismounting your bike.

Plus your conclusion that the less powerful motor must effect battery range must be apt too, for the accu still has the same power as on the bikes with the stronger more powerful motors. Then again this is not mentioned by Electra. The specs when it comes to distances are the same for all the different Go! types: "20-100 miles / 40-120 km depending on your mode and terrain"

On a side note; as much as I really enjoy and love the happy, colorful and flashy Electra website for it seems completely in sync with the whole brand/ 'cycling as a lifestyle' idea. When it comes to the tech specs they could maybe improve it a little. Moustache f.e. has this cool drawn model of each specific bike type with all the measurements mentioned. And no that wouldn't just be cool for so called 'geeky bike nerds' (nothing but love and respect there) but it could really help out anyone while trying to narrow down the exact type of bike of your preference. Especially since there sadly is not an Electra (e)bike shop or showroom on every street corner, which makes the online availability of relevant and correct information, be it technical, just practical or visual all the more important!

Ok enough said for now.
I shall return here as soon as I get some interesting new info thru the Benelux manager. And of course as soon as I have managed to get my hands on one, or even better, on all of the new Go! models myself.
In the meantime I shall be dreaming of the apparently impossible combination; an actual electric classic cruiser bike by Electra. Or as Court said quite rightly; why to his surprise they (just) haven't put larger beach bars on the Townie Go?

NKB
1 month ago

I am 62 years old and live in a hilly town, and have decided to invest in an e-bike. I have travelled to several different bike shops to try out different models (Trek, Pedago, Townie, Faraday and now Kalkhoff). For my body shape and fit, the Kalkhoff fAgattu Impulse (2016 model) feels like a better bike, but the "lightness" and portability of the Faraday Courtland S made me feel more in control. My average commute to work on the bike will only be 3 miles each way, but I am worried about the range on the Courtland. Any users out there who have ridden these two models have any suggestions? THANKS!

Court
1 month ago

Hi Marleen, thanks for sharing your enthusiasm for cycling and complimenting our work here. I’d love to share a few thoughts and try to help :)

My own Mother has had a couple of bicycle tips over the past few years and I’ve seen her become sensitive to riding, especially in crowded environments and around faster cyclists. You mentioned stability and I feel that the Electra models (or any cruiser style ebike) could be a great fit because they tend to have wider tires and a more relaxed geometry. Sometimes, they even have smaller 26” wheels vs. the standard city/road 28” 700c. You touched on this in your post with the Fat Frank tires ;)

You really explained the Flat Foot technology from Electra well, it allows the saddle height to be lower so that riders can put their feet down while seated, but still get reasonable leg extension forward to pedal. They have a patent on this but you can see some competitors trying to imitate it by using back-angled seat tubes. Moustache does this with their Lundi 26 https://electricbikereview.com/moustache/lundi-26/ and Pedego does it with their 24” Cruiser which is unique because of the even smaller 24” wheels which bring the entire frame down closer to the ground https://electricbikereview.com/pedego/24-step-thru-interceptor/ The downside of both examples here is that they use rear-rack mounted batteries vs. the downtube design on Electra’s Townie model. This increases frame flex and makes the back rear heavy which can lead to crack-the-whip handling and easier frame tips. Pedego in particular, tends to be very rear heavy because they use a rack battery and hub motor system vs. the mid-motor on the Moustache and Townie. One upside is that the Pedego has a throttle while no Bosch systems offer that.

Bosch makes one of my favorite drive systems and it’s cool that you’re already familiar with it from the Urban Arrow. The reliability, responsiveness, and balance make it desirable but of course, it’s also a bit pricier.

So I have not seen the Commute Go! or Loft Go! in person but I have studied the official website and you did a great job narrowing down. I view these as more efficient “commute” type of bikes with lager 700c 28” tires that raise the bike slightly, hydraulic disc brakes that are going to be easier to pull and smoother to brake with, and swept-back handlebar designed to be comfortable (positioning you upright) but still narrow to fit through doors and between cars. Frankly, I’m suprised that the Townie Go! doesn’t have larger beach bars… but maybe the reach distance is already short enough? It’s an interesting design choice there compared to Pedego and others… perhaps they wanted to really raise the bar vs. raise and sweep back? I’m not sure. Anyway, my guess is that the Loft Go! will be the lightest model because it uses narrower tubing than the Commute Go! The look on the Loft Go! is more classy vs. beach cruiser but it shares a lot of similarities with the Commute Go! models and they all appear to use the Bosch Active Line motor which is slower to start and weaker overall (so it will extend battery range but also feel safer and more predictable to riders perhaps).

Based on what I have heard from Trek recently, none of the Trek or Electra models will have walk mode enabled and I’m not clear on why. In the past, some other large companies have been shy about any kind of throttle application because it changes the bike from Class 1 to Class 2. Now, a two-mph walk mode that requires two button presses to activate (and ongoing holding of the plus button) doesn’t seem like a big issue to me, and I love the idea that you could get help moving a 50 lb bike, that might have cargo loaded, up a hill or steep driveway. One concern however, is that the cranks turn when this mode is active and that can put your legs in the path of sharp pedals which could cause a scrape or surprise you enough that you actually drop the bike or something. I’m not really sure what drives the policy for them. Maybe someone will chime in with more info or perhaps this policy will change one day?

I’m sorry to hear that so far it has been difficult to locate a Trek dealer with ebikes to demo. Hopefully that will also change soon… or you can become one of the first to own the new models, it sounds like you are already a great ambassador for their brand of bikes :)

I’ll do my best to review the new models soon and appreciate your enthusiastic and well-researched comments Marleen. You seem very cool and your Mom must be very proud and happy to have you in her life riding bikes.

Marleen
2 months ago

Hi there I'm new to this, let me just say amazingly explanatory and well informed forum! Really brilliant! Hats off to Court and everyone involved!

My name is Marleen, I am from The Netherlands so you could say naturally an absolute bike junkie, but more importantly in this context, an avid Electra fan!

Because my still superfit and equally Electra loving 72 yrs young ;-) mum is currently looking for a new ebike I ended up here. Main reasons for her wanting a new ebike are more stability and more safety. This partly because of some minor and major incidents that happened in the past year that sadly ended up making her (and me about her) feel less secure on her bike.

Her current ebike is a Gazelle Innergy Chamonix frameheight 49cm and she has been really very satisfied with its flawless(!) performance over the passed 6 years. Used it daily and extensively for commuting, leisure, for longer and shorter rides at home in The Low Countries but also in more hilly conditions abroad.

The only downside turned out to be the fact that with this bike she is not able to reach the ground while remaining seated in her saddle at the same time. Something that, as we recently discovered, sadly is still not possible when she tried a Gazelle in their current smallest frame height 46cm. She is 163cm btw. I also should mention that a frame height of 46 and 49cm are considered fitting and appropriate for a person of 163cm. Luckily because she also owns an ELECTRA cruiser bike she knows that there is actually a bike that does offer the possibility of having your feet flat on the ground whilst being firmly seated! Also known as Electra's 'flat foot technology'.

Another very positive aspect of the ELECTRA cruiser are its fat frank tires! The relatively smaller tires on her Gazelle can pose quite a challenge, especially with all the tramrails we Dutch happen to have in all of our city centres. They can get stuck in there pretty easily and when it has been raining, not too uncommon here, you can imagine that can happen even quicker as goes for the risk of slipping. The fat frank balloon tires just give you an instant boost of confidence for they immediately enhance your stability, on and off road, plus they act as an extra cushion protecting you from experiencing every bump in the road yourself.

So after the most recent incident, where she ended up hurting herself after toppling over (because she simply wasn't able to reach the ground quickly enough while she was still seated) we decided it was time to look for a new ebike. Preferably one with all the aforementioned benefits of her ELECTRA.
Only then did we discover ELECTRA now actually have an ebike range! Now even combined with the top end Bosch motor system. Already familiar to us because it is also used on the Urban Arrow Family ebike we use. It really is just a super neat and frankly, in our opinion, one of the best motorsystems out there for an ebike. The combination of an Electra bike with its flat foot technology and the fat frank tires combined with the top end Bosch motor just has to be the best of both worlds!

So after we narrowed our search down to the ebike collection of ELECTRA, that are all called Go! btw, we now face 'the problem' of choosing just one of the three available models. There is the already slightly older ELECTRA Townie Go! (already reviewed by Court in another great video) but now you also have the ELECTRA Townie Commute Go! And there is the ELECTRA Loft Go! Online I could, up until now, only find a short introduction of the two latest additions by ELECTRA themselves, but this consisted of a mere summing up of some of the specs.

Now luckily Court (after some serious stalking on my part ;-) has promised to do his review on (one of) the new two Go! models in the nearby future. Depending on whether and how soon he can get his hands on (one of) these bikes ofcourse.
But this would be extra nice because right now there are still some questions about the pro's and cons between these three models.

The newly added models offer hydraulic disc brakes. On paper this looks like an upgrade, but is it also an upgrade in reality? Then there is the alteration to the steer; the new models sport the so called 'café bar steer' it is less straight than the one on the original Townie so what does this mean for your actual seating position? Then there is the difference in the used tires; while the original Townie Go! Sports the famous 26 inch Fat frank balloons the newly added models seem to have less fat tires and am I right to assume they are 28 inch? And what about the differences in total weight?
These are all technical differences apart from the obvious visual differences between the various models of course and the two frame options; step over (male) and the lower step thru (female)
Plus they all come in different colours.

And some questions about the Go! series as a whole.
Like do they also offer walk assist? It is not mentioned anywhere, but I know from our Urban Arrow Family bike, that all Bosch powered ebikes provide this rather handy feature. In The Netherlands f.e. we have quite a lot of underground bike cellars not only near train stations or other public buildings but also underneath quite a lot of appartment buildings in the city. So having to push your electric bike up a pretty steep hill on a daily base is not a very nice idea. Especially when you don't travel light in the first place, or when you're a bit older. Plus the average ebike is just always a bit on the heavy side compared to a regular bike, so a little walk assistance seems like a very good idea and would be a very neat feature on the Go! series indeed!

On a more general note I'd like to add that sadly ELECTRA is, up until now, not very present in my country The Netherlands. Meaning test riding one of their ebikes here has up until now just been impossible. They currently only have one flagship store in Europe which is located in Hamburg Germany. In The Netherlands their official dealers only sell the bikes online meaning they want you to buy the bike first for only then will they order it for you and then they even refuse to take it back because 'they ordered it especially for you'. Meaning there is, up until now, no possibility to check these bikes out first or take them for a test ride prior to deciding if and what kind of model you would like to purchase.

I find this especially sad because the whole checking, trying, comparing and buying process of a bike could and should be such a nice and awesome experience in itself. It could also be such a priceless opportunity for a brand to show and sell themselves to its potential customers and to keep its fanbase happy!
I remember buying each and every bike I own exactly and with my first ELECTRA I even considered sleeping over in the garage. Ok so maybe Im a bit crazy, but just referring people to an anonymous online shop experience while you are marketing and selling a so called lifestyle bike does seem a bit odd? Or at least contradictory.

But I am an optimistic person so let's hope for some progress here and the introduction of some properly equipped ELECTRA (e)bikestores here in The Netherlands soon! For seriously not a day goes by while I'm out and about with my bike that I don't get some positive remarks on my ELECTRA wheels and let me tell you there are quite a lot of bicycles here in The Nethetlands. Just saying! Plus the potential market for safe and stable yet funky looking ebikes is pretty amazing here!

For now I am very much looking forward to watching Court his, no doubt awesome, review video on the newly added member(s) of the ELECTRA Go! Family and on discussing his findings (and those of other people who have had the opportunity to (test) ride any of these bikes and are willing to share) here further. And on informing whoever else is interested here about the further developments in this whole process. Maybe you could help us with your experiences or maybe you find yourself in a similar situation and our story could end up helping you along the way of finding your new ELECTRA ebike!

Keep on rolling ;-)
Marleen

Glenda S. McKinney
4 weeks ago

I've been riding my beautiful blue Townie Go for a month now. People ask me about it everywhere I lock up--fun to be an unpaid ambassador. Some 'cyclist' friends have sneered about me getting an ebike, but I'm down 10 pounds over 33 days, so I'm certainly working at it while enjoying the ride. I use it 4-5 days a week for all my trips within 6 miles despite the Austin.
I've added a Surly front rack, Abus U lock, Hiplok chain, a couple of panniers for grocery shopping, some reflectors and lights for night rides, an adapter for a water bottle holder, and an extra bar off of the handle for more accessories (phone, lights, basket, etc). I tried a couple of under-seat bags, but couldn't find one to fit well. Now I'm shopping for a trunk bag that won't interfere with clipping on the panniers. Why so many bags and racks and so forth? Distributing weight is super important: my one fall was while coming to a stop because I'd only put on one pannier carrying 10-15 pounds.
Oh, and the bell! Get a nice bright sounding bike bell to warn pedestrians!
To answer the height question posed below, I'm 5'4" and could lower the seat a few more inches. I've had the shop adjust the angle of handle bar to get it to the right distance for comfort, which took a couple of tries to get it just right, but well worth the bother.

D H
1 month ago

Questions! Do we need to be coasting (but not pedaling) to change the speed or can the speed be changed at a dead stop? And...does it have a USB port for charging our cell phone on the side of the 'computer' screen that has the "info' button/boost modes? I have heard that it does...does it come stock with only back rack? Or front as well? thanks.

Glenda S. McKinney
4 weeks ago

Speed can be changed at a dead stop. It needs a bit of a pause to shift, so if you are pedaling, you need to coast until you feel it come into gear. I haven't used the charging port for my phone yet, as I haven't found the right cord, but there's def a port. There's only a back rack, and it's great for panniers or a trunk, but not both. After looking at several options, I went with a Surly front rack, because I was more interested in the possibility of front panniers for my locks than in the width afforded by some of the porteur racks. That turned out to be a good choice, because it's much more stable with weight mounted low and just under the stem.

Brenda Cooke
3 months ago

I have been finding the steering to be very loose on most ebikes. Is that normal and is there any way to tighten it up?

Frances Hanna
5 months ago

does this bike low step fit someone 4ft. 11?

Glenda S. McKinney
4 weeks ago

I'm 5'4" and think it could work for someone a bit shorter than me with no problem. The top bar is curved way down to make it as small an obstacle as possible, and I don't have the seat set as low as it could be.

Gary H
9 months ago

Electric bikes are the poor mans Tesla. Sign me up! :)

whydidyouresign
12 months ago

Drum brakes? Really?? Wonder if they can be changed out to a 21st century option....

jeromep
3 weeks ago

whydidyouresign For this application and target market roller brakes work just fine. I've ridden this bike a bit and the braking is very effective. Drum brakes on a car are really no longer effective, but on a bike they are super effective and, more importantly require little to no maintenance or adjustment.

JaxBicycleCenter
1 year ago

Great review.

MikeZ32TT
1 year ago

Thanks for all your reviews. Your channel is a great source of info. I appreciate it. I'm in search of a nice cruiser/comfortable style electric bike.

כרמל גור
1 year ago

You should review the bolt m1 its a really cool motorbike style e bike :)

GrimFaceHunter
1 year ago

+כרמל גור It will probably be on his other channel. 
They avoided saying how much power Bolt's motor can output, but it is probably well above the legal limits for bicycles, unless it is over sized just for the looks.
The thing looks like it can easily handle 5KW.

כרמל גור
1 year ago

+GrimFaceHunter really? their site says that it doesnt need a licence. and doesnt he has a moped licence because he did reviews on electric mopeds already

GrimFaceHunter
1 year ago

+‫כרמל גור‬‎ Bolt is a moped. No matter what their website says, you will need to register it and have a moped license for it. With that look, and especially that huge motor you cannot get away with claims that it is really a bicycle.

MotorheadRedo
1 year ago

I thought it would be convenient to own a cafe lock with the accessory cable for making quick stops at places like convenience stores, but they are very hard to find in the USA. The locks security rating is very low, but a very convenient lock to use. The more common name is frame lock, and their made by a company called AXA. I think the popular model is AXA Defender. They make accessory cables and chains that plug into the lock. Very popular in Europe but hard to find in the USA. It wouldn't surprise me if the AXA company phased them out, because they are so easily defeated, but very convenient to use for quick stops when the bicycle never leaves your line of site.

Glenda S. McKinney
4 weeks ago

This is an Abus cafe lock, and I haven't used it often because you have to insert the key to activate it. If I'm going to put on a u-lock and a chain, the cafe lock isn't very useful unless I were actually sitting next to the bike at a sunny sidewalk cafe. (I'm in a college town, so I am very careful to be sure that my bike is not the low-hanging fruit on any bike rack!)

philodygmn
1 year ago

This _almost_ edges out an eRad conversion of a regular Townie, for me, now, but no throttle, a weaker motor, questionable brake choice, no suspension, no walk mode, and a battery pack and electronics I'm not as confident in since they're less transparent than eRad about their supply chain plus eRad can convert one of the Townie balloon tire models still keep this from winning out, even despite having a slick integrated, removable display and lighting system with the nifty break-out control box on the handle (the battery-pack's carry handle is also nice).

I only have eyes for mid-drives, at this point, though, for sure. Thank goodness Townie's no longer exclusively under Electra's quixotic direction, though I'd be disappointed if the Flat Foot design remains Electra exclusive, and I hope to see balloon -style models...

Glenda S. McKinney
4 weeks ago

I haven't missed the walk mode at all. Maybe if I was walking it uphill it might be an issue?

Al M
1 year ago

+philodygmn
Flat Foot design is not unique. There are other models with bottom bracket forward of seat tube. Biktrix Stunner comes to mind, and few by Giant in non-electric realm.

Agreed, no throttle and proprietary (= $$$ and less available) Bosch system is a minus for many US consumers. Smallish battery. Make it 15 AH and add a throttle, for God's sake.

Handlebar is not swept back - wasn't it supposed to be cruis-ish model?

On the esthetic side, battery blends in but the paint pattern of bottom bracket makes motor stand out a bit.

Mark Elford
1 year ago

Good review, user friendly ebike. im a bosch fan.

gojo bojo
1 year ago

its expensive

Alc Anon
1 year ago

hey man is there a chance you doing e bike greyp review please

Alc Anon
1 year ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com
You are correct .
Maybe you can borrow from some fan or someone who has it. Because it is pretty expensive and custom made.
Thank you for reply. Keep it rocking.

ElectricBikeReview.com
1 year ago

+Alc Anon Oh, I would love to! From what I can tell they're based in Europe right? I'll keep an eye out but I have never seen one in a shop so doing a review is difficult, I have so many ebikes to check out here in the USA right now, maybe I'll make it to Europe later this year! This is the bike you're talking about correct: http://www.greyp.com/

Monstah Jones
1 year ago

if there was one bike that had the potential to be an awesome cruiser it's the townie.. there's only two things I wish they'd do to this frame and that's shorten the head tube to allow for some other fork options ( it'd look beautiful with a monark springer in there ),  and open up the rear of the frame for some wider rim sizes..  if they ever put these out with a fat rear ( 80 or 100mm ) I'd be down for one asap..

Monstah Jones
1 year ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com hey bloke, if you're ever considering a monark fork, consider getting a sunlite from amazon like this http://www.amazon.com/FORK-SPRINGER-SUNLT-300xTDLSx28-6x30-225mmSTACK/dp/B010TSRO7E/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1457402676&sr=8-6&keywords=sunlite+springer+fork  .. they really are built tough and well worth the money.. 

ElectricBikeReview.com
1 year ago

+Monstah Jones Oh wow, you're totally right! I love the look of that Monarch Springer custom fork http://www.monarkforks.com/ hadn't thought about the head tube length as a limiter for suspension... I like the idea of fat tires as well but might explore the mid-sized 6-fatty that has popped up on some of the Specialized ebikes and the OHM I reviewed late last year: https://electricbikereview.com/ohm/sport-xs750-plus-16/

Douglas Kmiotek
1 year ago

OMG!!! I so want this bike. Arrghhh!!!

Douglas Kmiotek
1 year ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com I agree. This is a wonderful looking, and performing, ebike. I hope I can get one by late summer. I'm in luv here,... 😍

ElectricBikeReview.com
1 year ago

+Douglas Kmiotek Yeah, they really nailed it with the Bosch system, the Electra Townie has long been a popular bicycle and one of the first conversions (Pedego used to convert Townie's into ebikes using kits before building their own brand) and now I feel like they finally nailed it ;)

Ex13m1
1 year ago

bingo

Ex13m1
1 year ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com but i have Sduro Fullnine rx 2016 )

Ex13m1
1 year ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com I'm a fan of motor Bosh and Yamaha. I think that the chopper with this engine is cool.

ElectricBikeReview.com
1 year ago

+Ex13m1 Oh yeah, I feel like they nailed it with this model and the price is decent considering you get the Bosch drive system... Most bikes with this motor were $4k+ in 2014 and 2015

bryphi77
1 year ago

I really like the style of the guys bike. I wish it had a really good hub motor instead of the center drive. I am not sold on the center drives yet. I know they have more torque, and can take advantage of the gears, but I really think that maintenance and drivetrain longevity are going to be a problem with center drive and regular bike components. I know I have mentioned this before, I am wondering if you have seen this in practice since you deal with so many of these bikes.

jeromep
3 weeks ago

bryphi77 I don't understand the "drive train stress" argument. All motive power on a regular bike goes from the crankset through the chain to the rear gearing. From the perspective of where the motive effort comes from, there is no difference in terms of the manner in which motive forces are transferred from the crank to the rear gearing, whether it is coming from the user or the motor. Center drive feels so much more natural than hub drive. Hub drive feels like you are being pushed from behind and I've yet to ride a rear drive which felt natural in pedal assist mode, on the other hand center drive, especially the Bosch system, feels so natural; almost like you are in the optimal gear all the time.

bryphi77
1 year ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com The thing is... The hub motors are actually taking stress off the drivetrain, where the center drives are doing just the opposite. I am sure there is a few year warranty, but does that cover the chain or the expensive geared hub? And what after 2 years? 
From my point of view when buying a product like this for practical reasons longevity and cheap maintenance are my top priority.
I cant thank you enough for making these vids. The bikes are finally coming down to a price / quality ratio that is closer to being based in reality. I am going to get an e bike before summer hits, and I definitely have enough knowledge from watching these vids to know exactly what I want... and don't want.  

ElectricBikeReview.com
1 year ago

+bryphi77 Hey! I've heard people express similar concern, specifically about the Bosch system, but have never had a shop tell me that they saw one break. You get a solid two year warranty with this bike and if anything does go wrong with the motor they just swap it out with a brand new one. I think it's the best cruiser style electric bike on the market right now and the price is awesome compared with other high-quality offerings. If you want more power and prefer a hub motor definitely check out the Pedego Interceptor which is also an amazing electric cruiser: https://electricbikereview.com/pedego/interceptor/ and note that you can get this in step-thru and a smaller 24" wheel size step-thru for shorter riders. Pedego has done a great job making their line accessible :)

Jone Gomez
1 year ago

Your audio is just superb, pristine and clear even outdoors, what is your setup? Anyway, I'd love to try those Bosch systems, nice bike btw.

jeromep
3 weeks ago

ForbinColossus Roller brakes are basically a drum brake that has bearings inside which roll and press a friction surface against a pressure plate bringing the bike to a stop. It's hard to explain without a visual. There are a number of good tear down videos on YouTube, just look them up. They are actually very good brakes and as a number of bike techs have told me, are nearly indestructible and require little maintenance or adjustment. You see them a lot on European city bikes.

Jone Gomez
1 year ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com Thanks for the information. Nah I'm not jumping in the youtube biz, but I'm a sound engineer and was just wondering how you get that audio so balanced, on headphones sounds just great :) thanks again!

ForbinColossus
1 year ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com amazing you havent dropped your camera! you've become an expert in self action filming, if that the right way to say it...Looks like the bosch kits have come down in price. It seems like this townie is the lowest price bosch bike to date? Too bad about the oddball brake system (I never heard of before).

ElectricBikeReview.com
1 year ago

+Juan Nieve Hi Juan, I use a GoPro 4 Silver (the one with the screen on the back) and run it naked using a three axis motorized gimbal like this: http://amzn.to/1QD0jvK and have glued a bit of dead-cat microphone cover fur over the mic jack. Hope this helps you with whatever project you're doing :D

John Moura
1 year ago

Nice bikes!

ElectricBikeReview.com
1 year ago

+John Moura Yeah, this one's a beauty ;)