Total Weight:
48 lbs (21.77 kg)
Battery Weight:
5.5 lbs (2.49 kg)
Motor Weight:
8.8 lbs (3.99 kg)
Frame Material:
Aluminum 6061, Tour, 4-Bar Linkage System, Gravity Casting Interface, Hydroformed Tubes
Frame Sizes:
15.74 in (39.97 cm)17.71 in (44.98 cm)19.68 in (49.98 cm)21.65 in (54.99 cm)Frame Types:
Mid-Step
Frame Colors:
Black with White and Neon Blue Accents, Black with Neon Yellow and White Accents
Frame Fork Details:
Rock Shox Reba SL Tapered, Poploc, Air Suspension with Damping, 120 mm Travel, 15 mm Thru Axle
Frame Rear Details:
Fox CTD LV, 120 mm Frame Travel, 142/12 mm Axle
Gearing Details:
10
Speed 1×10 SRAM Shadow Plus, 11-36TShifter Details:
Shimano SLX M 670, Rapidfire, I-Spec on Right Bar
Cranks:
Xduro Aluminum
Pedals:
XLC MTB Platform
Headset:
FSA No. 57, Semi-Integrated, Tapered
Stem:
Xduro Aluminum, A-Head
Handlebar:
Xduro Lowriser Aluminum
Brake Details:
Shimano M615 Hydraulic Disc, 203 mm Front Rotor and 180 mm Rear Rotor
Grips:
XLC Sport with Locking Rings
Saddle:
Xduro Light MTB
Seat Post:
Xduro Aluminum
Rims:
XLC EVO Disc
Spokes:
DT Swiss Industry 2.0 mm
Tire Brand:
Schwalbe Nobby Nic Performance, 27.5" x 2.25"
Wheel Sizes:
27.5 in (69.85cm)Tire Details:
Foldable
Mike leroy
10 years ago1. How interchangeable are the components used in the Haibike XDURO FS RX and Trekking RX ?
In other words, can I replace the different parts in the two bikes to have the same bike, in effect?
I live in Woodside, CA. Kings Mountain Road is my primary road. I can make equally strong arguments for either bike. I simply want to buy two pairs tires to make the Trekking RX more FS RX-like, or vice-versa.
2. I look at eBikes from a motorcycle viewpoint. I truly appreciated it when you mentioned unsprung weight. Traction is the most important aspect of a motorcycle regarding accidents. Tires, brakes and suspension influence motorcycle traction. Is this a relevant consideration when buying an eBike? If so, what do I look for, tire specifications?
2a. Do motorcycle “lowsiders” and “highsiders” (i.e., endos) crashes occur on centerdrive eBikes, e.g., or is the torque too low?
2b. Bosch 9ME ABS motorcycle brake controllers are “anti-lowside” technology. Does the equivalent exist in the eBike world from any manufacturer ?
ReplyCourt Rye
10 years agoInteresting questions Mike… I’ll do my best here. 1.) I think many of the parts would be interchangeable but am not sure about the wheels given the 650b on the FS vs. 700c on the Trekking. Also, I believe the front wheel uses a thru-axle on the FS. The batteries, display unit and seats are probably swappable? Not sure exactly what you had in mind, hope this helps. 2.) I think unsprung weight is most relevant on ebikes that have suspension like the FS here. It doesn’t matter too much if you’ve got a hub motor in the rear wheel of a hardtail bike. Having owned an Easy Motion Neo Jumper with full suspension and a hub motor design as well as a Haibike FS 27.5″ I can say that the suspension feels better on the Haibike and it’s more balanced overall which helps when braking, turning and taking jumps. The tires on both bikes were decent, I prefer the Schwalbe Nobby Nic however as it seems thicker and larger overall (though my Neo Jumper was a 26″ vs. their new 650b). 2a.) With hydraulic disc brakes and the 203mm front rotor on the Haibike you can definitely flip forward over the handlebars (I think this is true of most bicycles). As far as doing a wheelie and falling off backwards, I haven’t experienced this and it’s a lot harder with pedal assist because the bike only goes when you pedal forward. If we look at the Optibikes however, they are definitely powerful enough to buck backwards and I’ve heard this happens on the R11 to people when they first try it. 2b.) The Bosch anti-lowside technology is pretty cool! Looks like it prevents the wheels from sliding as you turn and brake simultaneously, something like anti-lock brakes? I have never heard of this for ebikes but it may come in the future as new technology is rolled out… especially with the speed-pedelec full suspension Haibike that I hear is coming in 2015.
Replymuki
10 years agoDo you have representative distributor in Israel?
ReplyCourt Rye
10 years agoHi muki! I’m not sure… I’ll ask around for you, are you trying to buy this bike for yourself?
Replyjim
10 years agoI really enjoy your reviews ….. I am definitely getting a Haibike this year but not sure which one … my main use will be urban commuting in Miami which is all flat with somewhat OK but rough section where I live due to tree roots lifting the asphalt. The Xduro Trekking seems like a comfortable bike but I like the looks of the Xduro Urban and its lightness. Is the Urban a harsh ride?. How about the mountain bikes (like FS RX or RX 29) as commuters? I’d appreciate any suggestions. Thanks, Jim
ReplyCourt Rye
10 years agoHi Jim! Great question… there are so many awesome looking Haibikes to choose from and the Trekking is obviously suited to utilitarian rides (fenders, lights, efficient tires) but yeah, maybe not as comfortable as a mountain bike. I actually purchased the FS 27.5″ for myself because it was one of the first Bosch powered ebikes in the US for 2014 and I wanted to experience it on longer rides, commuting etc. I specifically chose the full suspension model because over long distances and higher average speeds my back and neck get sore. The suspension really helps in my opinion and even though the off-road Haibikes aren’t as efficient as the city oriented ones (knobby tires vs. hybrid or street) that doesn’t matter to me because the range is incredible, I’m willing to sacrifice some efficiency for comfort. The other big tradeoff is that the FS doesn’t have bosses for adding a rear rack (actually, none of the off-road versions do) so I had to get a beam rack from Topeak. I did a video with it here which might get you thinking and another video here with the DeFender fenders to keep the bike (and me) clean. Whatever you end up with, feel free to share pics and feedback in the Haibike forums so others can share thoughts or learn :)
Reply10 years ago
Thanks for all the info …. definitely helpful …. I’m also considering getting one of those dongles to increase the speed a bit …. any thoughts on those? Thanks, Jim
ReplyCourt Rye
10 years agoI’ve seen these in use on some of the older 250 watt Bosch systems and the speed did increase however it seemed like the motor was struggling or overheating because it began cutting out after several miles of high speed. I’ve been told that it definitely violates the warranty but the interesting thing is that you can buy high speed Bosch systems that are designed to go up to 28 mph. I’d recommend getting one of those but so far there aren’t may that come in off-road formats… just the Haibike Race and Superrace which are road bikes.
ReplyChristian
10 years agoJust bought the Haibike XDURO FS, primarily from the reviews and test riding. I love this bike. I commute with it and stick a slick on the front tire. I can go over anything yet get good power consumption with the slick. The only problem is in mud, the slick slips a little. I just have to watch my line. On rock, the slick is fine. I ride about 4 days a week now rather than 3 (on my cx bike) but leave work every lunch to head down to the beach or mountains to have lunch and/or workout. So I put about 38 miles a day on the bike and just love my commute. Thanks Court for the information.
ReplyCourt Rye
10 years agoAwesome, sounds like it’s working well for you Christian! Thanks for the props and sharing your experience with front tire replacement. Hope the bike continues to work well for you, I loaned mine to a friend and he ended up with several flats, eventually got thicker tubes and some tire liners. Seems like the stock Schwalbe Nobby Nic might be focused on light weight performance vs. thorn protection. Would love to hear your thoughts if you encounter flats down the line.
ReplyChristian
10 years agoHey Court, Right now I’m using a 1.5″,650b, 300g Panaracer tire and a 1.75″-2.12″, 26″ slime tube. It’s not thorn season but when that time comes I’ll get a better idea on how prone to punctures the system is, right now no problem. However, I gained speed (top speed on one particular hill with knobs was always around 31.5 with a top of 32 mph, with the slick the speed is around 34.5 mph with a top speed of 35.9 mph) and distance using the slick on the front has improved (at the end of the day I would have 2 bars and sometimes 1, now I have 2 bars and sometimes 3). I obviously need more data to confirm but I’m a pretty consistent rider so the numbers feel right. Anyway, that’s my update.
ReplyCourt Rye
10 years agoGreat update Christian! Thanks for your data, it’s neat to see just how much of a difference tires can have… Ride safe at those higher speeds! Sounds like you’re having a great time out there :D
ReplyCharles Revis
10 years agoWhere does one purchase a Haibike in the U.S.A.? I’m having difficulty finding a dealer. I live in the Northwest. Most of the electric bike shops are in Seattle, which is a 5 hour drive for me. Any help in finding a good dealer would be appreciated.
ReplyCourt Rye
10 years agoHi Charles, the only tool I can recommend for you is the dealer map search run by Currie Technologies which is the company that distributes Haibike in the USA. Any of the dealers that carry other Currie models should be able to get a Haibike for you. Some dealers will ship direct and these bikes can come pre-assembled (that’s how I got mine) but it’s always nice to get fitted at a dealer and have that ongoing support. Might be worth the long drive if you’re spending $4k+ but it’s not the best use of time or gas I admit :
ReplyChristian
10 years agoHey Court, It was a slime-bath out there yesterday with my 1.5″ slick. I ran over a thorn or something and it just sprayed slime all over me and the bike (thought I was watching an episode of Dexter). Me and my stubbornness, I kept riding to see if it would clog. After getting sticky from head to toe I decided to stop. I patched the slime tube (which I never did before) and it worked great. I’ll let you know when there is another bloodbath. Take care and hope all is well.
ReplyCourt Rye
10 years agoWow, sounds like you really had a mess on your hands out there! Did you add the Slime tubes on this bike or did it come with them?
ReplyChristian
10 years agoI added them. Thought it would help with the slick to limit the number of flats. Of which I’m sure it has but when that hole was made, it was over!
Reply5pnt
10 years agoCourt, How does the Haibike fs rx suspension compare to something like the Giant Maestro suspension? Is it fully active in all conditions? Is it efficient in transferring all rider energy to the rear wheel in all conditions? Does it have breaking independence so you have suspension while breaking? Thanks
ReplyCourt Rye
10 years agoGreat question 5pnt, I haven’t tested the Giant Maestro and am not a suspension expert but I believe that Haibike has carefully thought through performance and may even use designs that were developed originally by Specialized for the FSR suspension (I believe that some of their patents expired recently). This is from the link: “The FSR (Horst Link) suspension has the rear pivot on the chain stay, in front of the rear axle. Other brands will try to get around this by having the pivot above the rear axle on the seat stay but it doesn’t work as well. Trek’s current suspension (ABP) has the pivot concentric with the axle. Then there are other designs such as Giant’s Maestro which is VPP. It has the entire rear triangle rotating around a vitual pivot point, hence the name.”
Reply5pnt
10 years agoThanks Court,
I am checking out e-bikes for the future I am 66 years old. Currently I have an older Specialized Stumpjumper and a Specialized Sirrus road bike. I am running up to 40 miles on road and 20-30 miles off road. When I get old enough and start slowing down I want to get an off road possibly a Hiabike and possibly an Optibike city for myself and my wife, so she can keep up. Thanks again Court
ReplyCourt Rye
10 years agoSounds like a great plan! You must have a big garage for all of those bicycles ;) I love the Haibike FSRX (mine is still going strong) and Optibike also makes some solid stuff, I hope your wife enjoys it if you go that route. Specialized recently launched a few ebike models of their own! Have you seen them?
ReplyCatherine
10 years agoHi, I’m a year 12 student and I’m designing a mobile food trailer for my final VCD project for school. I’m wanting to know how much this bike can pull in terms of weight? Or which is the best electric bike model that can pull the most weight? Such a great website heaps of information Thanks!
ReplyCourt Rye
10 years agoHi Catherine, that sounds like a neat project! I’m not sure how much the Bosch system is rated to pull but it definitely offers great power and efficiency. It seems like most ebikes can accommodate riders up to 300 lbs so if you subtract your own weight and consider how much the trailer is (along with added friction from a second set of wheels) that might give you some idea. Another stable, powerful electric bike you might check out is the Juiced Riders ODK V3. That bike has a huge battery and a powerful motor but unfortunately the motor is in the front wheel which might lose traction for hauling a big trailer. How much does your trailer weigh? Got any pictures? Feel free to ask for feedback in the General section of the forums as well :)
ReplyErik
9 years agoHi Court, Thanks for the great info and review. I found this bike that I’m interested in. http://www.fahrrad-xxl.de/haibike-xduro-fullseven-rc-x0018156 Could you perhaps tell me what the difference is between a RC model and a RX model? Cheers, Erik
ReplyCourt Rye
9 years agoHi Erik! Graet question… I plan on reviewing 2016 Haibikes soon and hopefully clarifying some of this stuff but in the mean time, the RX model is a more expensive, higher end version of the XDURO Fullseven than the RC. The RC is slightly more affordable primarily because of the drivetrain being a 10 speed Shimano XLS vs. 11 speed Shimano Deore XT. The brakes are also slightly different (though the rotors are the same size), the RC uses Shimano M 615 while the RX uses Shimano SLX. The frames also come in different colors with rX being a brushed aluminum vs. black paint with some blue and orange accents. The price differences between the two are MSRP $4,599 and $5,199 respectively.
ReplyHoward
9 years agoHi, I’m Howard from New York. One of my Indian friends asked me to know about the availability of Haibike in Kashmir, India. He said that before asking me he contacted some other sites about Haibike. I don’t know what did they say. Can you please help me in this regard?
ReplyCourt Rye
9 years agoHi Howard, I’m not really sure to be honest but there is one shop in the US that does occasionally ship overseas and they are Motostrano in the Bay Area of California. Give them a try and good luck :)
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