M2S All Terrain R750 Review

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Summary

  • A trail-worthy fat tire electric bike with spring suspension for, a custom rear rack, mudguard style fenders, and three lights (the headlight runs off the main battery pack)
  • Excellent battery position, it's semi-integrated design looks good and feels sturdy, M2S Bikes offers three different sizes so you can optimize for range, weight, and price
  • Powerful 180 mm hydraulic disc brakes provide the stopping power necessary for a 70-pound electric bike, both brake levers have motor inhibitors to keep you in control
  • Excellent kickstand placement, sturdy platform pedals, five color choices (black matches the battery, motor, controller etc. the best), extremely fast 5-amp charger keeps you riding vs. waiting, no USB charging ports, semi-delicate button pad

Video Review

Introduction

Make:

M2S Bikes

Model:

All Terrain R750

Price:

$1,750

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Trail, Sand and Snow

Electric Bike Class:

Throttle on Demand (Class 2), Speed Pedelec (Class 3)
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Warranty:

1 Year Comprehensive

Availability:

United States

Model Year:

2018

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

69.2 lbs (31.38 kg)

Battery Weight:

9 lbs (4.08 kg) (11.3 lbs for 17.4 ah and 21.0 ah Batteries)

Motor Weight:

10.14 lbs (4.59 kg)

Frame Material:

6061 Aluminum Alloy

Frame Sizes:

17 in (43.18 cm)18 in (45.72 cm)19 in (48.26 cm)22 in (55.88 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

Medium: 17” Seat Tube, 27” Reach, 28.5” Stand Over Height, 35” Minimum Saddle Height, 28” Width, 70” Length

Frame Types:

High-Step, Step-Thru

Frame Colors:

Gloss Blue, Black, White, Grey, Green

Frame Fork Details:

MOZO Spring Suspension, 100 mm Travel, Compression Adjust, with Lockout, Preload Adjust, 135 mm Hub Spacing, 9 mm Axle Quick Release Skewer

Frame Rear Details:

180 mm Hub Spacing, 12 mm Threaded Skewer with Nuts

Attachment Points:

Fender Bosses, Rear Rack Bosses

Gearing Details:

8 Speed 1x8 Shimano Acera Derailleur, Shimano HG CS-HG41-8 aw Cassette 11-32 Tooth

Shifter Details:

Shimano Trigger Shifters on Right

Cranks:

Prowheel, Alloy, 170 mm Length, 36 Tooth Chainring with Double-Sided Plastic Chain Guard

Pedals:

VP Alloy Platform with Pins

Headset:

Threadless Internal Cups, Straight 1-1/8”

Stem:

Zoom, Alloy, 100 mm Length, Two 10 mm Spacers

Handlebar:

Zoom, Alloy, Low-Rise, 710 mm Length

Brake Details:

Tektro Hydraulic Disc with 180 mm Rotors, Dual Piston Calipers, Tektro Three-Finger Adjustable Levers with Motor Inhibitors

Grips:

Flat, Rubber, Black

Saddle:

Selle Royal, Semi-Active with Gel, Black

Seat Post:

Alloy

Seat Post Length:

300 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

30.8 mm

Rims:

Alloy, Double Walled, Punched Out, 36 Hole

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 13 Gauge in Front, 12 Gauge in Rear, Silver with Nipples

Tire Brand:

Kenda Juggernaut, 26” x 4.0” (98-559)

Wheel Sizes:

26 in (66.04cm)

Tire Details:

5 to 30 PSI, 0.4 to 2.1 BAR

Tube Details:

Schrader Valve

Accessories:

Custom Alloy Rear Rack, Plastic Mud Guards, Steel Derailleur Guard, Adjustable Length Kickstand at Rear, Spanninga Kendo+ Integrated Headlight, Selle Royal Independent Saddle Light (Button Cell Battery), Blaze-Lite RL1900 Independent Taillight (Two AAA Batteries), Adjustable Kickstand at Rear

Other:

Locking Removable Semi-Integrated Downtube Battery Pack, 2.5 lb 5 Amp Charger

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bafang

Motor Type:

Rear-Mounted Geared Hub
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Motor Nominal Output:

750 watts

Motor Peak Output:

1036 watts

Motor Torque:

80 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

LG

Battery Voltage:

48 volts (Optional 52 v)

Battery Amp Hours:

16 ah (Optional 10 ah or 21 ah)

Battery Watt Hours:

768 wh (Optional 480 ah or 1008 ah)

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

3 hours

Estimated Min Range:

20 miles (32 km)

Estimated Max Range:

60 miles (97 km)

Display Type:

Intelligent 800S A0248 FR1.21, Fixed, Greyscale LCD, Backlit, Adjustable Brightness (Double Tap Power Button to Enter Settings, Single Tap Power Button to Change Menus, + and - to Alter Values, Hold + to Toggle Headlight and Backlight, Hold - to Enter Walk Mode)

Readouts:

Battery Indicator, (5 Bars), Assist Level (0-9), Speed, Average Speed, Top Speed, Trip Distance, Odometer, Trip Timer (Advanced Settings: Clear Trip Meter, Adjust Brightness, Change Top Speed, Change Wheel Diameter, Set Password, Change Walk Mode Speed)

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad on Left

Drive Mode:

Cadence Sensing Pedal Assist (12 Magnet Disc)

Top Speed:

28 mph (45 kph)(20 MPH Throttle Only, Optional 33+ mph in Off Road Mode)


Written Review

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What’s up, everyone! Brent here. I know a lot of you have requested some reviews on M2S bikes, so I’m very excited to be reviewing the M2S All Terrain R750 today. This is an off-road capable electric bike with a plethora of frame sizes and colors to choose from with a starting price of $1,799. At this price point, the R750 offers a fair deal, including a 750 watt geared hub motor, a hefty 16 amp hour battery, hydraulic disc brakes, a competent Shimano Acera derailleur, a sturdy rear rack, front suspension with 100 mm of travel and beefy 4” wide fat tires. There’s also the option to downgrade to a smaller 10 amp hour battery to save $150, or for an additional $250, there’s also the option to upgrade to a whopping 21 amp hour battery. M2S offers the R750 in two different frame types, four different frame sizes and five different colors. The one I received is a traditional high-step 17” frame (the Medium), but there’s also an 18” step-thru frame, a 19” high-step frame and a 22” high-step frame. My bike was gloss blue, but there’s also the option to go with white, green, black and grey. Whew! That’s a lot of options to go through, but options are a good thing here as it really lends itself to riders of nearly all heights and sizes, as well as personal taste and needs with the many colors and battery options.

M2S is a direct-order only company that only delivers to the United States. Unfortunately, those outside the U.S. are going to have to miss out here unless you’re able to find a used one online somehow. Being direct-order only means M2S doesn’t have any physical brick-and-mortar shops to let potential customers check out the bikes in person and give them a test ride. Normally I’d call this one of the downsides to direct-order only, and technically it really still is a downside, but here there’s at least the option to pick from one of the many different frame sizes and styles. So hopefully everyone will be able to find something that fits them. Another potential pitfall of direct-order only companies is a communication barrier, which thankfully doesn’t exist with M2S at all. In my experience the customer service was prompt to answer the phone, knowledgable about their products and quite friendly. I called from several different numbers to get a feel for this. The last real potential pitfall that comes along with direct-order only companies is mismatched parts or difficult assembles. Again, that wasn’t the case with the R750. In fact, it was one of the easiest electric bikes I’ve assembled so far and only took me about 20 minutes from unbox to riding. There were a few packaging details that I REALLY appreciated here as well. First of all, the zip-ties weren’t overly tightened and they weren’t overly thick. This may seem like a small detail, but I use very small scissors to cut the zip-ties when I unpack these bikes to really try to avoid scratching the paint, and when the zip-ties are overly large or unnecessarily tightened, it really makes rather difficult (and if I’m being completely honest a little painful on my thumb). The other small detail I really appreciated about M2S’ packaging was that the tires came pre filled to the correct PSI! Again, this isn’t a huge deal, but it was just nice to be able to slap on the front tire, handlebars, front fender and battery and get to riding. Overall, assembly was a very, very pleasant process for me. Oh, I suppose we should talk about the potential upside to direct-order only as well. :) With direct-order only I’ve found the prices to be far more competitive than other similar bikes sold in dealers. This makes sense given direct-order only requires less overhead — no physical shops, less utilities; fewer employees. This stays true with M2S in my opinion. The R750 feels fairly priced for what it offers, and especially given the multitude of frame, color and battery options. Right, let’s talk about the specs!

Driving this bike to a top throttle only speed of 20 mph (or 28+ mph in Off Road Mode) and pedal assist speed of 28 mph (or 33+ mph in Off Road Mode) is a Bafang 750 watt geared hub motor in the rear wheel with 80 Newton meters of torque. M2S has this motor custom geared for top speed, and it shows. This motor has a smooth output of power all the way up to about 26 mph. Traditionally, I find Bafang motors have quite a bit of oomph at the low and mid rpms but start to fizzle a bit around 20 mph. Here, it’s almost opposite. Off the line, the R750 is surprisingly sluggish for a 750 watt motor with 80 Newton meters of torque. However, and this is a big “however,” it begins to really find it’s power band towards the mid and higher RPMs, making getting up to around 26 mph on flat ground without pedaling incredibly easy. I’m a 185-pound rider who carries around 30 pounds of gear and I was still able to reach these speeds. I haven’t been able to do a full range test on this, but I suspect keeping it wide open will devour the battery. Thankfully, the standard size if 16 amp hours, and there’s always the option of upgrading to the 21 amp hour battery, or simply going easy on the throttle and keeping it in a lower pedal assist setting. With the fat tires and relatively long 710 mm handlebars, this bike feels quite stable at top speed and seems like it would do well at zipping through the city alongside traffic. Of course, with a top speed of 28 mph, or 33+ mph in Off Road Mode, the R750 is at best a class 3, and at worst a class 4. This means it will likely be illegal to ride in many areas. I’d strongly advise checking local laws before hitting the open roads with this bike, or at least consider dropping down the top speed in the settings. But on private property or an OHV park, this thing would be super fun. With the top speed here the R750 really feels more like a scooter or moped to me, especially given the gearing ratio: There’s a 36 tooth chainring up front and an 11-32 spread in the back. This feels more like a mountain bike gearing to me, but the custom motor gearing towards high speed screams paved roads. At speeds beyond around 20 mph I start to feel like I’m really beating eggs. The R750 has a 12-magnet cadence sensor that activates very quickly with just a fraction of a turn of the cranks, though the cutoff has a bit longer delay. Thankfully, this can be overridden with the motor inhibitors by depressing either of the brake levers.

Powering the R750, the headlight and the display is a 48 volt 768 watt hour locking, removable Lithium-ion battery that’s semi-integrated into the downtube. Both the charging port and key port are at the top of the battery and are positioned well clear of the cranks, so this should prevent interference if the pedals are accidentally moved while it’s charging or while the key is inserted. Again, there’s a handful of different options with the R750 as far as battery capacity goes. It comes standard with the 16 amp hour battery, but there’s also the option of downgrading or upgrading to the 10 amp hour or 21 amp hour, respectively. I estimated the minimum and maximum ranges at 20 miles and 60 miles simply because of the high top speed and powerful 750 watt motor. The range here, like with all electric bikes (and electric vehicles in general) is really going to come down to individual rider weights, environmental conditions, type of terrain being tackled and most of all, the level of pedal assist and/or throttle being used. Since the R750 does top out at pretty high speeds and because it has huge 4” tires that have a high rolling resistance, there’s the potential to get low mileage out of the battery here, but on the flip side, the battery can of course be conserved by using the throttle sparingly and keeping it in a lower pedal assist level. The display on the R750 is sleek and provides all the necessary feedback to get a good feel of the electronic levels on the bike. Though it’s not removable or adjustable without tools, I was able to clearly see the display even in direct sunlight. Of course, there’s still the risk of it getting scratched up if the bike is left at a bike rack. The charger for the R750 is a 5 amp charger which is quite a bit more powerful than the typical 2 amp output chargers. This is great since the standard battery capacity is 768 watt hours and should serve to charge it to full capacity in just a few hours. The charger also has an integrated fan and I was impressed at just how cool it stayed even after a full charge up.

A long press of the power button brings the R750 to life and reverts the display to the factory settings of pedal assist level one and the backlight and headlight off. It would be great if the display had a memory to save the settings that were left on it before it was turned off. It would also be great if it had a full size USB Type A port to power accessories, but hey, what can you do? The throttle on this bike is always live, even in pedal assist level 0, and gives me full power on tap regardless of assist level. I LOVE this as it allows me to keep it in a lower pedal assist level to conserve battery (and maybe get a little bit of a workout) but still be able to use the throttle to zoom up a hill or across a crosswalk if I need to. I also use this ability to assist the bike up stairs, which is quite handy for me since I live on the second story. The independent button pad on the left is also simple with only three buttons, +. – and power. The simplicity makes it easy to operate, and the tactile click with each button press gives me reassurance that it has been depressed without needing to double check the display. My only concern here with this button pad is the design. The + and – buttons have a slight gap between them and the button pad and they could get snagged with a long-sleeved shirt or jacket, potentially ripping off a button entirely. The headlight on the R750 is a Spanninga kendo+ and it puts out enough light to increase visibility in low light conditions, but the beam pattern is too striated and unfocused to provide enough usable light to navigate a path at speeds above a few miles per hour. On the up side though, it is integrated into the electronics so there’s no battery to swap out and it can be toggled on and off with the button pad. There’s also a small red light beneath the saddle and another one at the back of the rear rack, but both these are independent. Overall, the front and rear visibility on the R750 is pretty good, but and while there are reflectors in the spokes there’s no reflective sidewall so lateral visibility is a bit compromised. I think the gloss finish on the paint should help reflect light pretty well though. The R750 also has motor inhibitors that activate whenever the brake levers are depressed and instantly cuts power to the motor. This is a great safety feature to help ensure the shortest possible stopping distance… which is hugely important given how fast this bike can go.

Overall, this bike is really fun to ride. The fat 4” wide tires and long 710 mm handlebars make for a stable ride even at high speeds and it feels like this bike just WANTS to stay upright. That being said, it’s still relatively nimble even with its hefty 69 pound curb weight. I didn’t feel any frame flex with the R750 and the MOZO suspension with preload adjust and compression clicker with lockout along with the massive air volume of the tires does a good job of providing a pretty soft ride on-road, and decent ride off-road. I appreciate the ease of assembly with this bike and the attention to detail with packaging, and I also dig that some of the wires are internally routed. Speaking of wires, M2S did a great job with their cable management and it looks like they also took great care to make everything as clean and tidy as possible. Life is too short for messy wires. The frame lends itself to riders with shorter inseams like myself thanks to the downward swooping top tube. It looks like M2S tried to get the rear rack as far back as possible, but even still the saddle won’t drop all the way, leaving about three inches of seat post. This unfortunately does increase the minimum saddle height. I also dig that this bike is rocking hydraulic 180 mm disc brakes in the front and rear, that it has thicker spokes in the back, a Shiano Acera derailleur and just overall clean look. I also love the option of frame sizes and styles, and the many color options, but the fenders are plastic and do rattle a bit, especially the rear fender since it attaches only to the seat post and not the frame. The R750 feels like a great choice for those who want a full-size electric bike that can go off-road or on, and has plenty of power on tap to reach high speeds. I do want to caution again though that in some configurations this bike may be illegal to ride on public roadways. I want to thank M2S for partnering with me on this review and if you have any questions, please feel free to leave a comment here or on YouTube and Court and I will try our best to answer it. Thanks, folks and if you’re going out to ride, ride safe and have fun!

Pros:

  • Tons of options for frame sizes, frame types, colors and battery capacities means there’s pretty much a version of the R750 for everyone
  • Long handlebars provide a wide grip and plenty of stability, which is great given the high speeds this bike can reach, the fat tires and rigid frame further add to the stability
  • Hydraulic brakes with 180 mm discs offer plenty of stopping power, brake levers are adjustable reach and be customized to each rider’s preference, depressing either brake lever also activates motor inhibitors and cuts power to the motor, ensuring the shortest possible stopping distance
  • Cable management is on point and much of the wiring is internally routed, both protecting the wires getting snagged and making for a clean looking bike
  • Display is easy to read in direct sunlight and offers pertinent information on the bike’s electronic status, almost everything can be adjusted in the settings as well, including top speed and a password
  • Independent button pad is simple and easy to use, buttons provide tactile feedback when depressed so riders can be confident it was actually depressed without having to verify on the display
  • Suspension has 100 mm of travel, preload adjust and compression clicker with lockout, does a good job of providing a smooth ride on-road and allows for moderate off-road use as well
  • Fat 4” wide tires have huge air volume which adds to the cushy ride and also provides a wide tire patch for tons of traction, this is especially good news for riders who want to take the R750 off-road through soggy terrain, they can also be aired down to 5 PSI for an even larger tire patch
  • Integrated headlamp is wired into the electronics and battery, so there’s no battery to replace and they can also be toggled on and off with the independent button pad
  • Battery is semi-integrated into the downtube to make for a slimmer profile, locking and removable so it can be charged on or off the bike, key doesn’t have to be left in to operate, has quick batter level readout on the battery itself, charging port and key port are located on the top and are well out of the way of the cranks
  • Selle Royal saddle with gel insert is comfy and just the right blend of active and relaxed, saddle also comes with an independent red light with blinking and steady on functions, also has quick release so saddle height can be adjusted on the fly without tools
  • Double-sided plastic chain guard helps prevent the chain from slipping off towards the inside or outside, also offers some protection against strikes
  • Comes with a rear rack four attachment points, rack feels sturdy and has a bar to place a bungee to help keep cargo secure, another independent taillight is located at the back of the rack with a steady on function
  • Shimano Acera derailleur is a few steps above the Tourney, steel derailleur cage helps protect the derailleur from damage and also helps protect the power cable from damage as well
  • Rear wheel has thicker spokes than the front wheel to help compensate for the motor, rims are punched out to help reduce weight
  • 1 Year comprehensive warranty is pretty good and covered everything on the bike, including electronics and battery
  • M2S customer service promptly answers the phone and are kind and knowledgeable about their products
  • Assembly is incredibly easy and M2S took great care in designing how their bikes are packaged, including easy to cut zip-ties that aren’t overly thick or tightened, and they even pre-pressurized the tires!

Cons:

  • Grips aren’t locking and are subject to spinning under heavy torque, given that this bike is designed with off-road use in mind, this could result in an accident
  • Display isn’t adjustable or removable without tools, making adjusting it for glare time consuming and also leaves it subject to getting damaged when the bike is left at a bike rack
  • Buttons on the independent button pad are susceptible to breaking if snagged by a long sleeve shirt or jacket
  • Headlight is mounted on the arch of the suspension, this makes it unsuspended weight and it will bounce around more compared to a mounting point on the frame itself
  • Plastic fenders rattle a bit, especially the rear fender which only attaches to the seat post and has no attachment points to the frame itself
  • Saddle is obstructed by the rear rack and the rear fender, which increase the minimum saddle heigh, this might make it more difficult for riders with shorter inseams to place their feet flat on the ground while still in the saddle at a complete stop
  • Gearing feels a little off given the high top speed and beyond 20 mph it feels like I’m beating eggs to try to keep up
  • Taillight isn’t integrated to the electronics, no increased brightness with braking so vehicles and other riders behind the bike might not be able to tell it’s slowing down, also means the batteries will have to be changed when dead
  • 4” wide fat tires have a huge tire patch which results in increased drag and road noise at higher speeds, this can eat into the battery when pushing the bike to its limits, also no reflective sidewall which compromises visibility in low light conditions
  • Motor is geared towards high speed so the torque at lower speeds isn’t as powerful as other 750 watt motors
  • Direct-order only means there’s no way to try before you buy, also means the customer must assemble the bike themselves or pay to have a local bike shop assemble it

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Comments (27) YouTube Comments

jhoblho
7 years ago

Good review! I appreciate the night shots to show visibility of bike and the adequacy of lights, nice addition!

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court
7 years ago

Awesome! We’re glad that you found it useful… more M2S ebike reviews are in the works soon ;)

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Don
5 years ago

I’m 6’8″ will the R750 fit me?

Matt Roberts
7 years ago

Glad to see the M2S review. I bought 2 of these for the wife and I. I was comparing Rad Rover and this bike. I felt like you just get more bang for the buck with the All Terrain. Hydraulic breaks, more battery life, 9 assist levels, better battery frame integration, and its fast! Mine has a few hundred miles on it and have had no issues mechanically, we are really enjoying these bikes. The owner, Eric is very helpful as are the videos on M2SBIKES.COM

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court
7 years ago

Awesome, thanks Matt! Glad to hear that you’re enjoying the bike and really appreciate your real-world feedback. It’s cool to have a couple of great options in the fat tire ebike space now and think that M2S and Rad are some of the best for direct to consumer :D

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Rob
6 years ago

I think this is the best choice of almost any bike I have seen yet. It has the specs and it has the looks. I did check with them however and you cannot get the 21ah battery as an option when buying the bike. They told me it was only available as an extra for $800.00 May be more practical to have an extra 16 for the money anyhow.

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Court
6 years ago

Cool, thanks for updating us about the different battery upgrade options Rob. I agree, M2S has been doing a great job balancing performance with value… and I think they look cool :)

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Chris Garty
6 years ago

I’ve done 210 miles on my R750 so far. I have ridden to work every day I’ve had it, at 19 days and counting. It is a fantastic bike. Highly recommended!

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Court
6 years ago

Sweet! Thanks for the updates Chris. Sounds like the R750 is working well for you :D

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Bruce
6 years ago

Thanks for all your reviews. You were my primary source of info when I bought my first ebike. I now am looking to get a fat tire bike for more off roading. My question is this bike compared to the Volt Yukon 750 Limited. On this review, Brent shows how you can have the bike in 0 pedal assist and still have throttle, which is what I’m looking for. But when I watch the Volt Yukon 750 review it appears to have the same (Intelligent) control screen and button set up but Court complained that it did not have throttle only with a 0 pedal assist. Can anyone clarify this? Could it be that it would be in the programming set up by the seller and the user could change that. I am considering these two bikes but not having throttle without pedal assist could be a deal breaker for me. Thanks!

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Court
6 years ago

Hi Bruce! Sorry for the delayed reply on this question… and my answer isn’t great. I haven’t reviewed the latest VoltBike models and am not sure if their programming has changed. This is something I’d recommend calling or emailing the company about. These little things get updated frequently, especially when it comes to smaller brands that are nimble. I cannot say for sure whether you could customize this or if the display system is even the same on their latest model. If you do find out, I’d love to hear from you back here!

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Bruce
6 years ago

Hi Court, thanks for the reply. I did find that both bikes have the same controller and, yes, the Voltbike Yukon 750 limited can use throttle only with pedal assist set to 0. You can in fact set the pedal assist for 0-5 or 0-9 incrementally. I corresponded with Voltbike and they were very quick to respond and very congenial. I also wrote to MS2 and never received a reply. So, for about a month I researched and compared RadRover, Juiced RipCurrent, MS2 All terrain 750, and Yukon 750. I decided that the Yukon 750 would suit my needs best. The Yukon comes with full alloy fenders and a larger (44 tooth, I think) sprocket, so no hamster wheeling, the price was better than RipCurrent and you got fenders and a rack and as a plus the battery from the Yukon should fit my Magnum Cruiser also (Reetion Dorado) and RadRover did not. The only downside I saw was the keypad which as you pointed out looks a little fragile, but I’m a pretty careful rider so I think I’ll be alright with that. I’ll let you know more when I receive it and put a few miles on it. By the way, I just reached 2,000 miles on my Magnum Cruiser (purchased based on your review). I love it and the ONLY problem was a flat tire, which obviously has no reflection on Magnum. Thanks again for all your efforts!

Ed McMinn
6 years ago

This was a great review and surprised M2S doesn’t have reviews like this on their site, but I suppose they are working on keeping inventory and not marketing. One thing you didn’t go over was the shifting for changing gears but I saw that on other reviews. I would be very interested in hearing how this bike performs on pulling hills both on and off-road. My primary use would be for hunting off-road applications (logging roads, dirt paths and some gravel roads) but would also be riding in neighboorhood for exercise. I’m considering the M2S 750 all terrain and the Rad Rover 750. A lot of these “hunting ebikes” (Rambo, Back Country) have accessories like deer carts or cargo carts and I’m wondering if those can be used on any ebike, would you be able to provide any information on that? Again, thanks for a well done review!

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Court
6 years ago

Great question, Ed. I’m not sure about the attachments and actually wasn’t the person who filmed this review (and he’s no longer contributing here). It’s a great question for M2S directly or maybe the ebike forums here. I’d love to know too! Eventually, I’d love to cover the Rambo products ;)

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Chewy
6 years ago

I received this bike about a month ago. There have been a couple small changes since this review. The bike comes with the rackand fenders (I know early versions did not). The rear light is powered by the battery now. The battery also has a USB port now.

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Court
6 years ago

Great updates Chewy! Thanks for chiming in to keep us in the loop ;)

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Stephen Cummings
5 years ago

We have two 750 all terrains that we love. I have had mine for almost two years and over 1500 miles and it just keeps plugging away on sand and trails, or around town. Always puts a smile on my face when i ride it.

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evan d windom
4 years ago

I checked with their support folks, and the controller provides only 15amps. That probably does more to explain the poor low end performance than the motor gearing. With a 48V battery, that’s only a 720W motor… Doesn’t seem like Class III or IV to me.

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Court
4 years ago

Hmm, that’s interesting. The classifications for ebikes have more to do with top speed than power, and the nominal limit for motor wattage in the US is 750, so maybe that’s what’s going on here? A Class 1 ebike has no throttle and goes to 20mph, Class 2 goes to 20mph and does have a throttle, Class 3 can go to 28mph with pedal assist. Hope this helps!

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Gloucester Bob
4 years ago

Will mostly be riding on roads, though pavement can be rough in New England. Really like the Dost Kope but having 36” inseam worried about the fit. Wondering if the Kope can handle some off road riding too. Any advice?

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Court
4 years ago

Hi Gloucester Bob, great question. Yes, I do believe that both of the DOST models can handle off-road riding. I actually reviewed them on a section of dirt/gravel trail and it worked fine. The wider tires, decent suspension fork, and nicer fenders they chose all hold up well. The founder of DOST has a background in downhill mountain bike racing (including riding at Whistler Mountain in Canada). I always joke with him that he’s adding features and hardware that HE personally likes because he’s a mountain biker, but are unnecessary for most riders. When you build bicycles and know the industry, you find that there aren’t big price differences between the lower and mid-level components. I feel like DOST always goes up a level, and that makes their bikes hold up better off-road and in the rain etc.

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Matt
4 years ago

I’m very happy with the quality of my m2s r750 ht. Small cosmetic damage on arrival but the customer service was so responsive that I honestly feel like I purchased the perfect bike from the perfect company. At 6’7″, 300lbs, a size large frame feels comfortable and rock solid. My wife is super excited to buy a scout come spring.

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Court
4 years ago

Fantastic! So glad to hear that you’re enjoying the bike, Matt. Thanks for the update on how the company has been supporting you and also your body stats so other people can get an idea of performance given their height and weight. Hope you’re having a good start to the year, and I hope your wife ends up with a great experience from M2S too :D

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Julie A Engstrom
4 years ago

I have had my R750 for just 2 years and the battery began just shutting off during my ride, I was able to go over 25 miles before however now it dies at 16 miles. It shows the battery still had 3 bars before it dies. I take out the fuse replace it and put it back on the bike and I can then go about 50 feet before it dies again. If I recharge it fully then I can get about 16 miles again. I have had to be rescued at least 3 times now. It is really a pain. I contacted the company and their response quoted.

“With the age of your bike, the cell degeneration you are experiencing is pretty normal. Sometimes things like cold weather or leaving the battery connected to the charger for extended periods can accelerate this wear. If you would like to purchase a new battery, they are available here.”

So for an additional $450.00 I can get a battery to bring it back up to the mileage I was getting. I would never buy this brand again, I am moving on to another company maybe their support and battery life will be better.

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Court
4 years ago

Hi Julie, I feel your frustration… but I think what you’re seeing here is pretty typical for an ebike battery that is used frequently, exposed to extreme heat or cold, and may be using mid-grade cells. I cannot say for sure which factor played the biggest role, but the good news is that M2S is actually still in business and willing to sell a replacement pack for a very good price. It sucks spending more money, but imagine replacing a Bosch battery pack for $800+ or dealing with a battery that is simply no longer available at all (such as BionX) which cannot even be repacked due to proprietary software designed to prevent tampering. If you wish to explore repacking options (which could lead to higher capacity or higher quality cells) consider this company in California called M2S Power. I visited their factory a while back and made a video about it. Again, I feel for you because I know these things add up, but from my experience this is actually a pretty good result… two years of regular riding from a value product :)

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