Trek Lift+ Lowstep Review

Trek Lift Plus Lowstep Electric Bike Review
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep Shimano Steps E6000 Electric Bike Motor
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep Shimano Steps 36 Volt 11 6 Amp Hour Ebike Battery
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep Shimano Steps Small Display Bontrager Ergo Grips
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep Rigid Alloy Fork 26 Inch Wheels
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep Shimano Deore M315 Hydraulic Disc Brakes Kickstand
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep 10 Speed Shimano Deore Drivetrain
Trek Lift Plus Low Step Vs High Step
Trek Lift Plus
Trek Lift Plus High Step Frame
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep E Bike Battery Charger
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep Electric Bike Review
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep Shimano Steps E6000 Electric Bike Motor
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep Shimano Steps 36 Volt 11 6 Amp Hour Ebike Battery
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep Shimano Steps Small Display Bontrager Ergo Grips
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep Rigid Alloy Fork 26 Inch Wheels
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep Shimano Deore M315 Hydraulic Disc Brakes Kickstand
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep 10 Speed Shimano Deore Drivetrain
Trek Lift Plus Low Step Vs High Step
Trek Lift Plus
Trek Lift Plus High Step Frame
Trek Lift Plus Lowstep E Bike Battery Charger

Summary

  • A comfortable, low-step, cruiser style electric bike with balanced motor and battery position, multiple fun color choices, and several sizes (also available in high-step)
  • Nicer 10-speed drivetrain with clutch for reducing chain bounce and slap, easy to pull hydraulic disc brakes with adjustable-reach levers, reinforced wheelset
  • Some step-thru frames can flex but Trek reinforced this one to be stiff and sturdy, the foot-forward geometry, plush saddle, swept-back bars, ergonomic grips, and adjustable angle stem improve comfort and create a relaxed body position
  • Priced higher because of the nicer drive system and components plus dealer support and warranty, can feel a little uncomfortable on bumpy terrain because there's no suspension, smaller display isn't as easy to read

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Introduction

Make:

Trek

Model:

Lift+ Lowstep

Price:

$2,799

Body Position:

Upright, Upright Relaxed

Suggested Use:

Neighborhood, Cruising, Youth

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

2 Years Comprehensive, Lifetime Frame

Availability:

United States

Model Year:

2017

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

45 lbs (20.41 kg)

Battery Weight:

5.9 lbs (2.67 kg)

Motor Weight:

7.05 lbs (3.19 kg)

Frame Material:

Aluminum Alloy

Frame Sizes:

13.5 in (34.29 cm)16.5 in (41.91 cm)21 in (53.34 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

Medium 16.5" Lowstep: 22" Reach, 19" Stand Over Height, 24" Width, 71.5" Length, Large 21" Highstep: 23.5" Reach, 24" Width, 30" Stand Over Height, 71.5" Length

Frame Types:

Mid-Step, High-Step

Frame Colors:

Crystal White, Roarange, Dnister Black, Waterloo Blue

Frame Fork Details:

Rigid Alloy 26" Disc, 100 mm / 9 mm Skewer with Quick Release

Frame Rear Details:

135 mm / 9 mm Skewer with Quick Release

Attachment Points:

Rear Rack Bosses, Fender Bosses

Gearing Details:

10 Speed 1x10 Shimano Deore RD-M615 GS Derailleur with Shadow Plus One-Way Clutch, Shimano CS-HG50 Cassette 11-32T

Shifter Details:

Shimano Deore SL-T610 Triggers on Right

Cranks:

Shimano Alloy 170 mm Length Crank Arms, 44T Chainring with Plastic Guide

Pedals:

VP-608 Platform, Alloy Body, Black

Headset:

VP-MH312AT, 28.6 mm, Semi Integrated Bottom, Normal External Upper, Threaded, Satin Silver

Stem:

LeeChi Adjustable Angle, Quill Type, 105 mm Ext. 25.4 mm Clamp, Silver

Handlebar:

Bontrager Satellite Elite, Swept Back, 610 mm Width, 50 mm Rise, 35° Bend, 25.4 mm Clamp, Silver

Brake Details:

Shimano Deore M315 Hydraulic Disc with 160 mm Rotors, Shimano 3-Finger Levers with Adjustable Reach

Grips:

Bontrager Satellite Elite, Ergonomic Rubber, 130 mm Length, Lock On, Grey with Black Clamps

Saddle:

Trek VLG-8100, Steel Rails, Black

Seat Post:

Bontrager SSR Aluminum Alloy, 12 mm Offset, Large Quick Release Lever

Seat Post Length:

330 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

31.6 mm

Rims:

Bontrager AT-850 Disc 26", Aluminum Alloy, Double Wall, 32 Hole, Silver

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 14G, Silver with Nipples

Tire Brand:

Bontrager H2 Outlast Hard-Case Ultimate, 26" x 2.0"

Wheel Sizes:

26 in (66.04cm)

Tire Details:

35 to 65 PSI, 2.5 to 5.4 BAR

Tube Details:

Schrader Valve, 26" x 1.9" to 2.125"

Accessories:

Bontrager Integrated Chainstay Mount Kickstand, ABUS Battery Locking Core

Other:

Locking Removable Battery Pack, 3.1 Amp 1.7 Pound Charger with Adapter Dongle, 11.6 Amp Motor Controller, KMC X10e Chain

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Shimano STePs E6000

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

250 watts

Motor Peak Output:

500 watts

Motor Torque:

50 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Shimano STePS, Down Tube, BT-E6010

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

11.6 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

417.6 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

4 hours

Estimated Min Range:

30 miles (48 km)

Estimated Max Range:

50 miles (80 km)

Display Type:

Shimano STePs Small Model SW-E6000, Removable, Adjustable Angle, Monochrome, Backlit LCD

Readouts:

Speed (mph or km/h), Average Speed, Max Speed, Odometer, Trip Meter, Range, Battery Level (5 Bars), Assist Mode (Off, Eco, Normal, High), Time Clock

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad near Left Grip (Hold Up and Down for Settings Menu)

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Measures Wheel Speed, Pedal Cadence, and Pedal Torque, Power Output Relative to Pedal Input: Eco 70% 30 Nm, Normal 150% 40 Nm, High 230% 50 Nm)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

The Trek Lift+ electric bikes are designed for comfort, stability, and in the case of the Lowstep model here, accessibility. The 26″ wheel size brings the frame closer to the ground and the sloped top tube offers an approachable 19″ stand over height compared to the high-step model at ~30″ and yet, the frame feels sturdy. I didn’t sense as much frame flex or wobble as some other step-thru models because the battery pack and motor are positioned low and center. There are two sections of tubing vs. a single combined downtube/top tube and the rear section of the frame is reinforced by an extended section of top tube! I’m not sure what the maximum weight capacity is for this e-bike but the reinforced wheelset, smaller diameter wheels, and overbuilt frame suggest 300+ lbs. Whether you’re a larger adult with hip and knee sensitivity who wants an approachable cycling experience or a young person who hasn’t reached their full height yet, the Lift Plus Lowstep offers excellent performance, efficiency, and quality. It utilizes Shimano drivetrain hardware with a 10-speed cassette, Shimano Hydraulic disc brakes with adjustable-reach levers, and the Shimano STePs electric motor/battery/display system. You will pay a bit more for these components, the multiple frame size options, and color choices… but you do get access to a massive dealer network that can provide test rides and post-purchase service. I had a blast test riding both the high-step and low-step versions of this bike and came away with only a few minor complaints. There are no bottle cage bosses (even on the high-step), but you do have mounting points for a rear rack and set of fenders. The display is smaller than some newer Shimano models and the LCD isn’t as bright, but it is removable and intuitive to use. The kickstand isn’t adjustable and I feel that the bike leans a bit far to the left when parked. The battery charger requires a dongle to connect to the pack directly (which could get lost). The lack of any suspension fork or seat post makes it a bit stiff to ride on bumpy terrain. However, this is one of the lightest cruiser style e-bikes I have tested at ~45 lbs and the adjustable stem, swept-back handlebars, ergonomic grips, and plush saddle do a lot for comfort, offering a more upright body position for reduced back and neck strain. Even the seat tube and post are designed with comfort and stability in mind, you can stand over the bike saddle with your feet down and then lift and position them forward to reach the pedals and get decent leg extension when riding.

Driving the bike is a responsive mid-motor offering 250 watts to 500 watts peak output with up to 50 Newton meters of torque. It’s one of the lower rated mid-motors out there right now, but it’s super capable on paved paths and streets… and it sips on the battery vs. draining it quickly. Some competing brands are now offering similarly “efficient” motors, specifically Bosch with their Active Line, which is lighter and quieter. Professional cyclists only put out 150 to 200 continuous watts when riding longer distance, so a motor that starts at 250 watts but is lighter and quieter than a mountain-specific motor can be a big win. The key is shifting gears, most mid-motors struggle if you’re trying to climb a steep hill while using a high “hard” gear. As demonstrated in the video review above, the chainring starts and stops almost instantly as you apply torque. The motor controller measures rear wheel speed, pedal cadence, and pedal torque to determine when to operate and how much force to apply… it also factors in which assist level you have chosen (Eco, Normal, or High). More power usually comes with more noise, especially at higher RPM as you pedal faster, but it’s not the loudest by any means. Overall, in my opinion, the Shimano E6000 motor is an excellent choice for the Lift+ platform.

Powering the motor and backlit display is a very capable Lithium-ion battery pack offering 36 volts and 11.6 amp hours for a total of 417.6 watt hours of capacity. It’s slightly above average in terms of capacity but you can expect great range because of the rigid frame, slick tires, and energy-sipping motor. Factors that impact electric bicycle range outside of bike design include terrain, weight of the rider and cargo, wind, and the level of assist chosen (how much pedaling effort you exert to help). There is no throttle mode on this electric bike, so you will always have to help out a little bit, but the highest level of assist is very zippy and satisfying, it offers a great way to stretch your legs and arrive at your destination sweat-free or without a sore knee. So, the battery pack slides onto the frame from the left and clicks into position. This design allows the top tube to be much closer (and lower) than some of the competing e-bike systems which have a downward mounting pack. I think it looks sleek and appreciate the integrated cup handle near the top for safe carrying. You can charge the battery on the frame and will get faster than average filling thanks to a 3.1 Amp charger (most chargers I see are 2 Amps). The only thing I dislike about this charger is how large it is and that the connector requires a dongle adapter for use when connecting directly to the battery pack. You see, there’s a proprietary plug on the battery mount and a different plug on the base of the pack. Many other premium e-bike systems utilize just one plug design and this saves materials and the potential for misplacing or losing a dongle. There isn’t even a leash or connector to help keep this dongle with the charger and to me, that’s a missed opportunity. Finally, I appreciate that the battery has an LED charge level indicator built into the side because that allows you to see how full it is when storing off-bike. You can maximize the number of charge cycles for your electric bike battery (and most Lithium-ion batteries) by storing them in cool, dry locations, and maintaining 20% to 80% fill if not is use for longer periods. However, the same button used to check the charge level on the pack is also required when activating the bike to ride with assist. That means, you may have to reach way down to the left vs. having an easy-to-reach power button at the control pad.

The control pad itself is compact, easy to understand and navigate, but a bit small and basic in terms of readability. I don’t think it’s transflective like the higher-end Shimano display that is now out and available on the Trek Neko+ and Dual Sport+ models. This charger is still removable, which can keep it protected from direct sunlight or rainy days, but it doesn’t have any USB ports built-in for your phone or music player. This is becoming popular with some of the other drive systems, and as someone who uses his phone for GPS when riding on occasion, it’s a welcome if not minor delighter feature. The display can be navigated by pressing the black button on the control ring, near the left grip. This cycles through different menus like average speed, max speed, and range… and if you continue clicking, there’s a range-only readout screen which shows how far the bike thinks you can go in each of the assist levels! Considering that the battery infographic only shows five bars to represent how full your pack is (that’s 20% increments right there), it’s nice to have more definition and detail with the range menus. Also, if you’re like me and get a little frazzled with all of the beeping noises that happen whenever you click the buttons, you can hold the up and down arrow keys to enter into the settings menu and turn beeping off. Shimano gives you access to many settings and I think they make understanding and navigating all of this a bit easier than the competition. The most basic interaction you’ll have with the control pad is clicking up or down to raise or lower assist… and of course you can ride the bike in “off” mode if you’d like, using the display to track your time, speed, or trip distance just for fun. I found the control pad to be easy to reach and satisfying to use, it clicks when you press and has a solid feel so you can almost use it without even looking down after a bit of practice. And that’s a great feeling.

If you are able to test ride one of these bikes and decide to go for it, I suggest also purchasing a u-lock for the front wheel and frame, a cable for the rear wheel, and even a seat leash to secure the saddle. Both wheels offer quick release, which is great for trail service and easy storage or transport if you’ve got limited space), but they could be stolen more easily too. That goes doubly for the seat post and saddle because Trek has designed an extra large attention-grabbing seat collar quick release that practically begs to be pulled. I love how easy it makes raising and lowering the seat height, but have seen people park for 20 minutes and return to find that someone swiped their seat because it wasn’t locked down. Trek dealers should be able to help you with all of these accessories but a seat leash is cheap and easy to find online too. The bike could be more comfortable if it had even larger tires and a suspension fork, but it might not feel as stiff or stable and the price could increase. For those who are interested or concerned, the rigid seat post could easily be swapped for an affordable suspension design like this, but that would also raise the saddle by a few inches. One final consideration, that applies to most mid-drive electric bicycles, is that the Shimano E6000 motor does not offer shift detection and can apply extra force while you shift gears if you do not let up a bit on the pedals. It’s the same principal that applies to non-electric bikes and shifting, only now you have up to 50 Newton meters of extra force also straining the chain, sprockets, and derailleur. Practice gaining some speed and easing off of the pedals (but still spinning gently) then shifting and if you approach a large hill and need to shift to make it up, I usually just allow myself to stop and walk vs. straining the components. The lower saddle height and step-thru frame make this easier than ever… the Lift+ Lowstep is an approachable platform from one of the biggest names in the cycling space. And, I’d like to thank Trek for partnering with me on this review and sending a rep to meetup with both models so I could compare measurements side by side. I had a good time and am happy to answer any questions or comments down below.

Pros:

  • The frame geometry is designed to be approachable and stable, the step-thru or “lowstep” downtube is easy to step over and straddle when mounting (it’s only 19″ high in the center vs. 30″ on the high-step) and the steep angle on the seat tube positions the saddle back and feet forward, so you can stand over the saddle and still touch the ground but then get decent leg extension while pedaling
  • Motor and battery weight are situated low and center on the frame which improves handling and allows the frame to be stiffer and more responsive compared with rear-rack mounted batteries (note also how the top tube is carried through the rear triangle for increased strength and the wheelset uses reinforcement eyelets for dealing with heavier loads)
  • Both wheels offer quick release for easy trail maintenance or storage and the tires have “hardcase” puncture protection, Trek has designed an extra-large lever for the seat tube collar quick release so raising or lowering the seat post isn’t as difficult or painful on your fingers
  • Comfort is important when your neighborhood street has some bumpy sections or the bike path has large cracks and raised sections from overgrown roots… so the fatter 2″ tires, plush saddle, swept back bars with ergonomic grips, and adjustable angle stem all play a part in smoothing out the ride, they are especially important because there’s no suspension fork on the Lift+ models
  • I’ve become a huge fan of hydraulic brakes because they often come with adjustable-reach levers that can be brought back towards the grip, which is easier for people with small hands or gloves, these disc brakes are powerful and easy to actuate compared with mechanical brakes
  • Available in three frame sizes so you can dial in fit and comfort even more than just the seat height and bar position, it’s one of their more popular electric bicycle models and comes in four color choices as well
  • I like how the battery clicks in from the side and can be charged on or off the bike, the display panel is also removable and that makes it easier to protect if you park the bike frame outside or need to lock it up at a sketchy public rack
  • The motor is smooth, efficient, and lighter weight than a lot of competing mid-drives, it’s not rated for mountain biking, but that fits the frame and tire setup of this bike and it still climbs great if you shift gears thoughtfully
  • Priced at $2,799 the Trek+ Lowstep isn’t the most affordable option out there but you do get a nicer ten-speed drivetrain (with a Shadow Plus clutch, for tightening the chain in the up position if you are riding on bumpy terrain), purpose built frame with wires all hidden, and dealer support in fitting and support for the two-year comprehensive warranty, Trek is one of the worlds biggest bicycle brands and has earned a lot of trust and respect
  • The frame has mounting eyelets for adding fenders and rear rack, so you could set this up to deal with inclement weather or commuting
  • Even though there is not a full-coverage chain guard on this bike, I appreciate the plastic chain guide which will keep the chain from dropping as easily and still provide some pant or skirt protection against the greasy chain
  • Compared to the Trek Neko+ and Dual Sport+ the Lift+ models are going to be lower to the ground and more stable based on the smaller wheel diameter and fatter tires, this is great for easy riding around the neighborhood
  • The smaller frame step-thru model could work well for kids and young adults who aren’t as tall… or just petite riders, there aren’t many electric bikes that are approachable for youth in the market and it’s nice that this one comes in bright fun colors but could also be unisex

Cons:

  • I like that this bike has a kickstand, but it seems a bit short to me, the bike really angles to the left and there’s no adjustment in the kickstand to change that… it works well enough on paved flat surfaces but the end of the kickstand isn’t especially large and can stick into soft terrain more easily
  • Even though this e-bike has several comfort-oriented touch points, the rigid fork and rear section can feel a bit stiff, so you might consider swapping the solid seat post with a suspension post option like this affordable 31.6 mm Satori Harmony or slightly nicer Satori Animaris, but keep in mind that it will raise the minimum saddle height by a few inches
  • Shimano has a couple of displays and the Lift+ models use the smallest monochrome design which isn’t as easy to read from far back or in bright daylight… but it’s probably a less expensive part, it doesn’t have a USB charging port and the angle isn’t as easy to adjust without a tool like some of the other displays on the market right now
  • I wasn’t especially surprised to see that the step-thru frame does not come with bottle cage bosses, but even the high-step foregoes them, which is too bad because they can be useful for carrying a water bottle, folding lock, or mini-pump without having to wear a backpack or add a rear rack, you can however get a handlebar cup-holder mount like this as an alternative
  • The battery charger is fairly large and requires a special adapter piece to charge the battery when off the bike vs. when it’s on, be careful not to misplace this adapter or you will always have to charge on the bike, on the bright side however, I like that the battery has a built-in power meter so you know how full it is without mounting and powering on the bike
  • It seems that in order to activate the display panel, you have to reach down and press the power button on the battery pack which can be a stretch and just inconvenient if you forget, some of the other ebike systems have a single power button up on the control pad which is much easier to access once you are mounted on the bike

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JayVee
13 hours ago

I have 8000 kilometers on my (EU only) 45km/h Trekking Sduro drivetrain and I think it will last 30,000 or more. The bike shifts perfectly and there are absolutely no signs of wear. It’s been through ice, snow, slush, rain, mud, dirt and I do hills and bumpy roads every single day. The trick is to clean the whole drivetrain regularly because grime and dirt will stretch the chain over time. It’s not that difficult to do. A medium pressure water hose will usually do the job (point the hose away from the drive casing). The cassette, chain, and derailleurs do not have to be squeaky clean and shiny at all times, but they do have to be free of grime and contaminants most of the time.

To be perfectly honest here, I'm much more concerned about how long the drive will last than about the other components. This is an area where mid-drives don't particularly shine. Bosch and Yamaha units are fairly reliable according to independent statistics, and it seems reasonable to think that recent units will last at least 15,000 kilometres on average. But I expect to have about 20,000 kilometers on the bike within 2 years. And given the fragility of a mid-drive there's got to be a point at which the drive breaks. I simply hope it will be during the warranty period because these units are not cheap. I've heard that a new Yamaha unit goes for about 800 Euros, which is about 40% of what I paid for it. So when the drive breaks, it might be more cost effective for me to buy a new bike rather than change the drive.

PCDoctorUSA
1 day ago

My big concern is the ascent back up. I've reached out to a lot of people here who have had offered some great feedback both in these forums and private conversations in hopes of coming up with a consensus of the best direction to go in regards to type of drive: geared rear hub or mid-drive. I don't know anyone locally who owns any type of electric bike, and I only spot an electric bike in my daily commute once in a blue moon so these forums are my only source for info. I have yet to find a LBS that is both knowledgeable and passionate about selling ebikes that could help me. The big brand dealers (Specialized and Trek) only have a few models to make the Brand happy while they concentrate on selling non-ebikes. The owner of one ebike-only shop couldn't even tell me the correct model names of the bikes he had to sell or even figure out their displays to show me the Assist levels. I actually knew more than he did thanks to EBR forum members and Cort's reviews.

For those that have looked at the https://www.dropbox.com/s/ym61mubq23mjhg5/Commute%20Elevation.jpg?dl=0, most have said the geared rear hub on the Yukon 750 will make the once daily climb without issue. I've had one reader in another EBR forum that says a geared rear hub won't make it, but a Bafang BBS02 mid-drive will. My goal this weekend is to visit a shop that rents ebikes to the tourists and see if they have a geared hub model so I can see how it does on my hill. I'm really hoping the geared rear hub will do the job because there are no mid-drive options in the Yukon's price range even with adding in the cost of changing out the tires to something more street commuter friendly once the Yukon arrives. Voltbike's shipping charge of $120 to Hawaii is also the cheapest of ANY online dealer I've found yet. If a dealer ships to Hawaii at all, the price is between $300 and $500.

Thanks in advance to anyone else that would like to chime in.

Stoker283
1 day ago

You have a great commute, it make me miss Hawaii!! From what I saw, your only issue will be a lack of gears, if you can reach 40 mph downhill on a regular bike, I am sure you would love to go as fast with your fat bike too. I have heard of some people installing a bigger ring gear at the front, but you will be limited with on 7 gears. I have a 9 gear cassette and the only time I switch it to the 9th gear is going downhill. I love going fast. And I can guarantee you that the reset of your commute shouldn't be below 20 mph with a ebike, as long you don't get stock behind too many buses... lol

Cheers

PCDoctorUSA
3 days ago

The commute is 8 miles one-way. You can get a better visual on this https://www.relive.cc/view/g14806687566. The descent in the morning is great. I average about 36 mph coasting on my Trek FX 7.2 fitness bike, but have made it to 40 mph before common sense caught up with me. Thankfully, I haven't had to lock up the ol' rim brakes. Here's a https://youtu.be/rcyC3ISfTxk of the descent. Maybe it will give you a better feel of the hill for the return.

The ascent is gradual with a slight level-off (1:00 mark on the video) before the grade where it becomes noticeably steeper. This is where I usually dismount and push the bike up when the wife's shuttle service isn't available. I have made the climb about a half-dozen times, but I'm in the lowest gear trying to maintain 4 mph and convince my heart to stay in my chest. I think what makes it worse is it's the last 1.5 miles of my ride at the end of my workday.

Bruce Arnold
3 days ago

Well, 108 miles. ;)

I had some trouble with a chain link that was too tight. Took it in to the LBS and got that fixed. They fine-tuned the rear derailleur too. It now shifts so well. Being able to effortlessly get it into the right gear is a real joy. Before, it would hesitate, sometimes shift 2 gears instead of one, stuff like that. This is not a Juiced Bikes problem, I've seen it on other bikes also. Regardless, the shop only charged me $16; well worth it.

I'm still fine with riding in the 18-20 mph range. My rationale is this: being a heavy guy (me plus gear = ~300 lbs), I'm already putting a certain amount of stress on the bike, primarily the wheels. The frame itself is built plenty strong. You smaller guys, hitting the same bumps and holes in the pavement at maximum speed are putting the same stress on the system. As Trek says in their manual, "The most significant variable in durability is the manner in which you ride ... If you ride hard or aggressively, you should replace the bicycle and/or its parts more often than riders who ride smoothly or cautiously."

That being said, I haven't had any problems with the spokes. That was an issue for many riders when the CCS first came out. It seems that the move to the 13 gauge Sapim spokes has fixed that. So much of the spoke breakage was within the first 100 miles. I've had none at all. I was sort of leery about this at first, but other than occasional inspection of the wheels for proper spoke tension (which we should all be doing anyway), I'm just not worried about it.

As I get in better condition, I find that I use level 1 less and less for recreational riding. Eco does the job for me at all speeds up to 20 mph, and I rarely even use 9th gear (although it's fun to sail down hills for bursts of up to 25 mph in 9th.) For commuting, Level 2 and 3 are great so I arrive without being sweaty and out of breath.

Using combinations of the pedal assist levels and the gears is becoming more and more automatic. At first I had to think about it. Now it's getting natural. Totally awesome to move from Eco to 1 to climb a hill in the same gear, for instance, without having to give it any thought.

As I've said elsewhere in the forum, I'm not worried about the "charging to 80%" thing. I charge when it drops to around 44 volts, and take it off the charger at around 53 volts. This gets me over 50 miles, without losing any significant performance. This may not absolutely maximize the battery life, but will provide many years and thousands of miles of riding enjoyment. I'm sure I'll want one of those 52 volt batteries Tora just started selling, long before this battery bites the dust.

My wife's Pedego doesn't have the cruise control or the boost function. I'm really glad the CCS has 'em. I use them both all the time. I don't find myself using the throttle a whole lot, except for the boost. With the cruise control, I just don't need it.

Another degree of rake would suit my riding style better. I mentioned this soon after getting the bike. It's just fine the way it is, but a little more stability over nimbleness would be welcome.

I'm very happy with the Marathon Plus tires. I've read that some people feel they are too heavy or stiff or something. To me they give a comfortable ride, with the added security as well. As tech reviewer Flossy Carter says, "One a scale of one to ten, this is a major win."

I really appreciate the advanced read-out on the LCD panel. I wish the font were bigger -- which would require a bigger display unit overall -- but that may be just a function of 65-year-old eyes. The information provided is so helpful. Again, my wife's Pedego doesn't provide this level of information, which I find both interesting and helpful. The only thing I'd add would be a trip odometer. My workaround for that is that I've added the https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.rooehler.bikecomputer.pro&hl=en app to my Android. It has a lot of great features. I added a https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074XST5G2/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 to the top tube to carry the smartphone. It has some basic bike tools in the side pockets also. The red and black version looks great on the red CCS.

I've ordered a https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BR4NIC/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 and https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007FRCIDI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 to make my commuting safer and more efficient.

The CCS is, for me, a perfect platform for commuting and recreation. Thank you, Tora and the rest of the team at Juiced Bikes!

Gina
3 days ago

I am 61 years, 95 lbs and want to switch to an electric assist to help me up the hills to the tennis courts. I'm used to riding my bike to the courts but have lived in flat terrain in the past. Now I live with some steep hills and they are just too tough for me. Most of my riding will be the 4 mile return commute to the courts three times a week but I'd like to be able to take the bike to parks and ride through the trails so I'd like the bike to be as light as possible yet have the nice features such as hydraulic disc brakes as I'm a slow rider, a little nervous going down the hills or going fast. Anyone have either of these bikes, compared them yourself, or have some suggestions that I may not have considered? I haven't tested the actual bikes as they have to be ordered so I want to be almost certain before I have one ordered. I rode the Trek but the 16.5" frame and I rode last year's medium frame Turbo, slightly different model. E-bikes are totally new to me and they both felt good. Thank you for any feedback or suggestions!

TForan
3 days ago

I really don't know why they wouldn't be. Mine is great in town and it has the ability to absorb potholes and bumps with ease. Plenty of power and speed (Bafang Ultra) and can handle a heavy load without any problems.

hurricane56
3 days ago

I guess if it helps, here are some baseline figures from one year of commuting in 2017.

2016 Haibike Trekking S - Bosch Performance Line Speed
- approximately 4k miles, 1/3 urban stop and go, 2/3 rural
- new chain and cassette after 2500 miles
- One set of front brake pads at the end of the year, rear brake pads had about 3-4 months pad life remaining. Brakes are Magura Mt5.
- Rear tire is a Schwable Energizer Plus, it's about half of the tread life is worn, front tire is still almost new.

I agree with with @rich c , for such a heavy duty commute schedule, I'd be sticking to the big motor manufacturers. Also with the OP previous comment about dual suspension. It's certainly a nice to have but not vitally required feature for high mileage.

Norbert72
4 days ago

I was afraid to buy it. My phone is turning off in the cold. I bought a Haibike Trekking S 5.0 2017. But I'll waiting for your update.

rich c
4 days ago

I'm with Ravi, no comparison between a Haibike and Rad. With the Haibike you get torque sensing and shift detection with the Bosch. Super quick response on the PAS as well. Huge difference between hydraulic and mechanical brakes. Also higher end components on the shifter. I love the estimated range feature provided by the Bosch computer. My first ebike was a hub motor, then bought a Haibike Full Seven S RX and a few months latter bought a Haibike Trekking S RX. Both are 2016s and have over 1,400 miles on each. Just no comparison to the component quality and smooth powered ride. I've never ridden a RadPower bike, but the Chinese motor and mechanical brakes can't be much different than the Chinese bike I rode before.

hurricane56
5 days ago

Yes, I think of the HF1000 as a Ford Raptor, while the Haibike is like a sporty BMW. The fat tires soak up all of the bumps. When I ride over rail road crossings, I don't even feel them with the HF1000. It's the complete opposite with the Trekking, which has an upgraded air fork. Without sounding overly critical of Juiced Bike, the thing that I haven't been happy with is their Mozo air fork. I honestly think they'd be better off using a rigid fork as the Mozo unit on that came on the HF1000 is slow to rebound and difficult to adjust. I ended up just taking the unit off and converting the headtube to use a Rock Shox Bluto.

As far as comparing it to the specs on the RipCurrent, 750w is a good sweet spot for power output. On my commute rides, the power output on the HF1000 display is hovering around 650-750w for about half the ride. If the RipCurrent controller peaks out at over 1000w, a 28-30mph cruise speed should be possible with street tires.

hurricane56
5 days ago

I run the HF1000 on my daily commute. For me the fat bike is like my lifted pick-up truck with off road suspension. It works rather well with a good suspension fork, street tires, and body float seatpost. It’s also my easy bike to ride. On the days that I’m more tired than usual I can get on my HF1000, turn it up to sport and be on my way.

Compare this to my Haibike Trekking that is also a great commuter, but different style of bike. It’s so much more nimble than the HF1000, and the Bosch system is much more refined. Both have pros and cons, but yes you can make a fat bike a great commuter platform.

R Mayer
4 months ago

Looking forward to your review of the competing Specialized Como for comparison.

Honky Tonk
4 months ago

I will never buy a bike that does not have front suspension.

Ian Mangham
3 months ago

Honky Tonk I won't buy one without lockout front suspension

Seb K
4 months ago

On a completely different note I ordered the Ebike stand that was reviewed on your site .The Minoura Ebike stand . I am disappointed it has a weight limit of around 14kg . I mounted my electric folding bike and it wouldn't lift it . Not a cheap stand either but I will keep it for my lighter bikes .

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

Interesting, could you link to the review? I definitely covered the heavy-duty Park Tool stand https://electricbikereview.com/accessories/park-tool/home-mechanic-repair-stand/ but am not sure what you mean by the Minora Ebike Stand? I'll add some notes or update about weight if you can point it out

Lynn Recker
4 months ago

There should be more orange bikes....

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

I agree! Orange is one of my favorite colors :D it sounds like you enjoy it as well?

BashfulLion
4 months ago

Good information at the end about locking up bikes/storing them. Had my bike saddle stolen just like that. As a teacher I store mine under my desk, relatively out of sight.

Ian Mangham
3 months ago

BashfulLion Josh stole your seat 😄

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

Yeah, it's sad when people steal like that and probably can't even use it... just messing around, it's wasteful and hurtful :/

cresshead
4 months ago

cool video, good to hear about securing the bike and all it's bits too.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

Glad you liked that part! I try to mix in some daily knowledge or whatever is top of mind to help people :)

howlingwolf125y
4 months ago

Hi Court .. I am a 40 year old, 6'3" male. I like this bike.. I like the multiple adjust-ability of the front stem. I prefer a MUCH more upright riding position.. which this would give me. (i.e also shorter top tube lets you right upright).. It is SUPER important to have the ability to adjust a bike for a comfortable ride. I CANNOT believe how few bikes (especially trail/mountain bikes - which i want) offer an adjustable front stem like this bike has. But I don't care some much for the swept back handle bars. Ride comfort is EXTREMELY important to me. This bike needs an shock absorbing seat post, front shock forks and a bit fatter tires (for a smoother ride).. before I can buy this bike..

Loyd Lamarr
3 months ago

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ForbinColossus
4 months ago

Agree with Mike B. This bike has a "QUILL STEM". These are simple to change to get the angle - and height- you want. Generally, the hinge design makes the adjustable stem less secure than a solid, one-piece design. Better to 'Fit' yourself and get the right one you dont have to adjust. Here is one retailer's selection of quill stems (matching diameter=25.4mm):
http://www.bikewagon.com/part/stems/quill-stems

Mike B
4 months ago

adjustable steering stems are like $30. You can add to any bike. The reason they don't come installed may be because they can slip if not tightened securely when you adjust them. Not good for liability I assume.

Jim Gordon
4 months ago

We sell these bikes at our store. For the consumer they are “Rock Stars”. Yes, they are basic bikes but we have customers with over 8k miles on them with no issues. Good bike to sell because you feel confident that they are trouble free bikes. And I agree about the lack of water bottle bosses .
Good review

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

Great to hear your real world feedback Jim! It's nice knowing that these bikes are holding up well for customers, thanks for chiming in! Where is your store?

eBikeaholic
4 months ago

Looks comfortable

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

Yeah, these models are more relaxed, stable, and pretty comfortable... especially with a seat post suspension upgrade :)

Haseeb 2
4 months ago

No need to use a cable to lock it up... Swap out the quick release skewers for a hex screw releases.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

That's a good point, you can get the Pinheads and other security hardware at many shops or online http://amzn.to/2h5bRfN many companies are offering it now including ABUS which makes the locking cores and cafe locks for some electric bikes

ilikewasabe
4 months ago

Its a good polished bike but.. For the price id expect a rear rack,fenders and lights..

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

Yeah, I'd rather see the price lower a bit and choose them as an upgrade option for a bit more money, I think the higher price just goes towards dealers, support, higher quality components etc. as is... and the name :)

Joel Price
4 months ago

0:58 “Go Broncos” No 😜

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 months ago

Ha! I grew up in Colorado and got to see the Broncos climb up and win the Superbowl with John Elway, special times... but I don't really follow sports that closely ;)