Haibike XDURO FullSeven Carbon Ultimate Review

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Summary

  • A high-performance electric mountain bike available in four frame sizes, stiff carbon frame for improved power transfer and handling, carbon accents include seat post, saddle, handlebar, wheelset and more
  • Eleven speed Shimano Deore XTR drivetrain with Di2 electronic shifting for faster, more precise gear changes and reduced chain wear, the Bosch motor controller is also designed to reduce mashing
  • Beautifully integrated motor and battery pack, the weight is kept low and center, shielding is minimalist but effective, unique Sprocket Equalizing System raises the chain and reduces kickback
  • Prohibitively expensive at ~$16k, the weight is low compared to most other ebikes I have reviewed but it wasn't as light as I expected at ~42.5 lbs, the wheelset may only accommodate up to ~209 lbs riders

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Introduction

Make:

Haibike

Model:

XDURO FullSeven Carbon Ultimate

Price:

$16,699 USD

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Trail, Mountain

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

5 Year Frame, 2 Year Motor and Battery

Availability:

United States, Europe

Model Year:

2016

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

42.5 lbs (19.27 kg)

Battery Weight:

5.4 lbs (2.44 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.8 lbs (3.99 kg)

Frame Material:

UD Carbon (Including Swing Arms and Motor Mount)

Frame Sizes:

15.75 in (40 cm)17.72 in (45 cm)19.69 in (50.01 cm)21.65 in (54.99 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

Large 50 cm: 20" Seat Tube, 22.5" Reach, 30" Stand Over Height, 73.5" Length

Frame Types:

High-Step

Frame Colors:

Matte Black with Red and Grey Accents

Frame Fork Details:

Fox 34 Float Air Suspension, E-Bike Optimized, 120 mm Travel, Remote Lockout, Rebound Adjust, 100 / 15 mm Thru Axle with Quick Release

Frame Rear Details:

Fox Float DPS Factory, 120 mm Travel, Climb Trail Descend (CTD) Clicker, Rebound Adjust, 142 / 12 mm Thru Axle with Quick Release

Gearing Details:

11 Speed 1×11 Shimano XTR Di2 M9050 Shadow Plus Electronic Derailleur, 11-40T Cassette

Shifter Details:

Shimano XTR M9050 Firebolt Electronic Triggers on Right Bar

Cranks:

Miranda, Aluminum Alloy, 175 mm Length, 18T Sprocket with Narrow Wide Teeth, Sprocket Equalizing System (SES) Pulley Wheel with NW Teeth

Pedals:

XDURO Freeride, Plastic Body with Alloy Pins, Platform

Headset:

FSA No. 57, Semi-Integrated, Tapered 1-1/8" to 1-1/2", Two 10 mm XLC Carbon Spacers

Stem:

Pro Tharsis XC, 75 mm Length, 7° Rise

Handlebar:

Bike Ahead The Handlebar, Carbon, Flat, 29" (730 mm) Length

Brake Details:

Magura MT8 Hydraulic Disc with 203 mm Front Rotor 180 mm Back Rotor, Magura MT8 Carbon Levers with Adjustable Reach

Grips:

XLC, Flat Rubber, Locking Rings, Clear

Saddle:

Tune Carbon Race

Seat Post:

Bike Ahead The Seatpost, Carbon

Seat Post Length:

300 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

31.6 mm

Rims:

Bike Ahead Biturbo RS AC-650, Carbon

Spokes:

6 Blades, Monocoque Design

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Hans Dampf, 27.5" x 2.35" (60-584)

Wheel Sizes:

27.5 in (69.85cm)

Tire Details:

23 to 50 PSI, Evolution Line, Tubeless Easy Snakeskin, Trailstar

Tube Details:

Presta Valve

Other:

Locking Removable Battery Pack with LED Charge Level Indicator, Motor Starts at 20 RPM, 2.2 Amp Charger 1.7 lbs, Rider Weight Limit 209 lbs (Haibike Says 264 lbs but Wheelset Says 209 lbs)

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bosch Performance Line CX

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

250 watts

Motor Torque:

75 Newton meters

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

11 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

396 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

3.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

25 miles (40 km)

Estimated Max Range:

60 miles (97 km)

Display Type:

Bosch Intuvia, Removable, Adjustable Angle, Grayscale, Backlit LCD, (Hold Reset and i for Settings Menu)

Readouts:

Speed, Assist Level (Eco, Tour, Sport, Turbo), Battery Level (1-5), Odometer, Trip Distance, Estimated Range, Clock, Max Speed, Average Speed, Trip Time, Shift Assist Recommendation

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad with Tactile Feedback on Left, 5 Volt 500 mA Micro-USB Port on Display

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Measures Wheel Speed, Pedal Cadence and Pedal Torque, Power Output Relative to Pedal Input: Eco 50% 40 Nm, Tour 120% 50 Nm, Sport 210% 60 Nm, Turbo 300% 75 Nm)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

Haibike is a high-end German electric bike manufacturer that was one of the first to integrate with Bosch drive systems and enter the US market. What you see on the XDURO FullSeven Carbon Ultimate is a third generation Bosch Performance Line CX motor that is capable, fast, and fluid. It blends into the frame, and so does the battery pack, because of the custom molded carbon and dark matching colors. This is a stealthy, well balanced, electric bike with impressive power transfer and one of the lightest footprints of any full sized, full suspension, models I have ever tested. But it is a little loud… The carbon rattles and has that plasticky sound that carbon is known for, and the rear hub buzzes because it has more pawls, allowing for faster pickup. The motor produces the same whining noise that all Bosch centerdrives do, but that is mostly covered by the tires hitting the trail and the three-point sprocket system and chain guide clicking along. Considering just how custom this e-bike is, with carbon accents everywhere, I was amazed and impressed that it’s being produced in four different frame sizes. That ensures a much better fit for a wide range of riders. For roughly $17k, you could pick this electric bike up and enjoy top-end performance riding trail, all-mountain, or enduro. And you’d probably attract a lot of atention, but mostly because of the wheelset. The bike delivers 120 mm travel front and rear with custom tuned air suspension from Fox. The shifting is crisp and fast with Shimano XTR Di2 electronic buttons and derailleur that unfortunately are not running off the main battery pack. Note also, that the stem is custom because it requires a wire from the Di2 shifter pad down into the steering tube where the separate battery is housed. I did some research into electronic shifting benefits and found that some road bikes have multiple shifting buttons (in the hoods, drops, and flat portions of the handle bar) but you only get one shifting point here. It works well enough and allows for multiple gear shifts. I found the bike slightly more enjoyable to ride than the standard Aluminum alloy Haibikes shown in all of the other reviews because I could toss it around more easily. I’m not a heavy or particularly strong person (weighing in at ~135 lbs) and prefer non-electric bikes for jumping and playing. For the first time, I felt a similar sensation on an ebike and it got me excited for the future. My guess and hope is that the molds for the FullSeven Carbon frame will be used to produce other, less expensive, carbon models in the future. In fact, this review is for the 2016 model which has been renamed to Haibike XDURO FullSeven Carbon 10.0 for 2017. The products are very similar in terms of specs but unfortunately, quite difficult to come by for reviews… the primary difference being battery capacity. For 2017 the Carbon 10.0 got an upgrade to the new Bosch Powerpack 500 battery which offers 25% greater capacity. Thankfully, you can purchase this pack aftermarekt on your own for ~$900 and it will still interface properly with the older model like the FullSeven Carbon Ultimate here. As someone with limited funds and an eye for bargains, the 2016 Ultimate would be easier to find at a discount and polish up. Because it uses the Bosch Performance Line CX motor, you could even have your local Haibike shop upgrade the software to enable the new eMTB mode which enhances Sport mode. The bike has five drive modes: Off, Eco, Tour, Sport, and Turbo. Each step up delivers more power… but now with eMTB mode, the Sport level behaves more like an all-in-one mode. You can pedal gently and get an efficient, low level of assist, or you can pedal hard and get 100% power just like Turbo mode. It makes doing wheelies much easier! I really like how it behaves, more like a pure torque sensor, and appreciate not having to think about arrowing up or down on the button pad in addition to shifting.

There are so many things to say about carbon fiber frames but I think Chris and I demonstrated the aesthetics and base performance well in the video. In some ways it’s more delicate than aluminum but in other ways it is just as strong or perhaps moreso, they did not use cheap or weak carbon to construct this electric bicycle. Regardless, I felt a little sensitive riding something so beautiful and expensive. The wheels alone are a sight to behold. Rather than use spoked rims, Haibike opted for bladed carbon with a custom magnet inset for their rear wheel speed sensor. I did some research and found some references to a 209 lb weight limit for these wheels while Haibike says the bike is rated for ~250 lbs. It’s probably not something that lighter riders will need to worry about unless they are really pushing the bike hard. I did notice the faster power transfer, the quickness of the bike, and I came to appreciate how much thought went into how they could cut grams. In a world where more and more super high-end ebikes have integrated batteries, the Bosch Powerpack 400 stands out a little bit, but it’s also forward compatible and much easier to remove and replace if necessary. This is a premium ebike that you can keep going and is for more than just show. I’m not a pro mountain biker but I did take this bike through the woods and on some dirt paths in Brooklyn, New York, and felt that it performed well. The 27.5″ wheel size is quick and nimble, not being plus sized, and rolls efficiently over bumpy terrain. It’s becoming my favorite wheel size compared to 26″ and 29″ and I actually like the narrower 2.35″ diameter vs. 2.6″ or 2.8″ on the tires here because they turn quickly and can fit through narrow sections vs. rolling over everything. This whole bike felt more like a precision surgical instrument… it was tight, fast, and very light. You get quick release wheels with thru-axles, a removable battery pack and display panel, and a hard carbon saddle. The saddle wasn’t as comfortable as traditional rubber/leather options but the thing I noticed more was the missing dropper seat post. I’ve become a real fan of this technology but I can see how it would add weight and why they skipped it.

At the end of the day, I’m not a racer. This is an ebike that’s fun to ride and ogle but I would probably add weight immediately by swapping the seat post and saddle… and possibly other parts. Given the 42.5 lb weight vs. ~46 lbs on similar full suspension products, like the Felt DUALe shown in the video, I couldn’t justify the expense. It’s a privilege to get to ride something like this and share back here with video and bullet points. There’s a lot of lower level stuff that I didn’t cover here that you can find in other Haibike reviews on the site, like the Micro-USB charging port on the display, the way the motor senses wheel speed, pedal cadence and pedal torque ~1,000 times per second, the Sprocket Equalizing System to reduce kickback and the narrow wide tooth pattern on the chainring to reduce slip. This bike takes all of the amazing design work from lower models and shaves off as much weight as possible. It’s a super-model. If you’re fortunate enough to get one, I’m sure you will have a blast, but you might also ride it less frequently (if you’re just a hobbyist) because it isn’t as rugged or durable as an aluminum frame. This thing was really built to race and show off… like in a shop window (but watch out for direct sunlight as I’ve heard that can degrade carbon fiber). The demo unit we filmed for this video actually had some cracks running along the top tube that may be the result of flex? I’m open to feedback and input, my understanding is that paint flexes differently than frame materials and that this wasn’t necessarily a structural issue. The bike had been ridden by a number of other reporters and passed around at demo events. Another question mark, the top assisted speed is limited to 20 mph which is a little disappointing now that Bosch has a Performance Speed motor and this is such a sporty product, but there are aftermarket dongles that can change this (and void your warranty, so beware). I had no problem zipping up to speed and even pedaling beyond 20 mph on leg power alone. Once again, this thing represents the culmination of material engineering and drive system optimization. It’s sleek, beautiful, more useful, and long lasting than a lot of other ultrabikes, and for that I give it a big thumbs up.

Pros:

  • The Fox suspension fork is ebike specific and was tuned for enduro use, the official website says that the chassis has also received special attention with additional material in critical areas
  • Apparently the carbon wheelset is usually only available in Germany, it looks awesome, reduces weight, and has been custom cast to fit the tracking magnet for the Bosch wheel speed sensor
  • Since carbon fiber can be custom molded, the frame is very smooth, I especially like the motor interface and battery mount interface which has some cupping to help the pack blend into the frame, the fork is not carbon but the brake levers, handlebar, risers, seat post, saddle, frame, and wheelset are
  • Carbon fiber, being stiffer than aluminum and steel, provides excellent power transfer, both you and the motor are going to be able to start faster
  • The motor and battery are positioned low and center, their black cases blend perfectly with the dark carbon accents and I love how smooth the protective shield is below the motor and how the cables are all internally routed… you get excellent balance and a stealthier look all at once
  • I was impressed to see that the spoke protector shield was also made from carbon and used velcro to attach to the wheelset, this shield will protect the wheels from overshifting, there’s also a little fender protector thing on the stanchion of the rear shock
  • The battery pack can be charged on or off the frame and has a minimalist cover to protect the plug interface from dust and water, you can make the bike lighter during transport by taking the battery off
  • The display panel can also be removed which reduces sun damage or scratches during transport, I like that the Bosch Intuvia has a Micro-USB port on the top right edge for charging a phone or other portable device while riding
  • You get the most powerful Bosch motor on this ebike, the CX offers up to 75 Newton meters of torque output and has firmware which can now be updated to eMTB Mode which allows for low to full output on Sport mode so you don’t have to arrow up or down while riding, it’s more like a pure torque sensor
  • Both wheels attach to the frame using thru-axles vs. 9 mm skewers, these offer increased stiffness and strength for high speed riding over rough terrain, both have quick release as well for easier maintenance and transport
  • You get Magura’s highest level hydraulic brakes, the MT8 uses a dual piston caliper which is large and sturdy but lighter than the quad piston, the carbon brake levers offer adjustable reach and are very smooth with large 203/180 mm rotors
  • Haibike opted for a narrow-wide chainring to increase grab and has pioneered a “sprocket equalizing system”
    which is a pulley that basically lifts the chain to reduce kickback as the rear swing arm travels, this pulley has a chain guide built in so you shouldn’t have any drops
  • Electronic shifting is fast, precise, and may reduce wear on the chains compared with manual shifting… with the Bosch centerdrive motor you get shift-detection which is designed to ease off motor power when shifting occurs
  • Because the Bosch Performance Line motor controller measures rear wheel speed, pedal cadence, and pedal torque,
    it feels very natural and smooth vs. jerky or overpowering
  • This is one of the lightest weight full sized, full suspension, electric bikes I have ever tested, at just over 42 pounds, it’s impressive… but I was surprised that the Felt FULLe which is an aluminum full suspension ebike, was only 46 lbs, I thought the weight difference would be a bigger
  • Haibike uses these plastic adapters that allow for larger entry and exit points on the frame with internal cable routing which makes it easier to service, once the wires are in place, the plastic porthole pieces are installed and the wires look clean

Cons:

  • The carbon hardware might chatter a bit at high speed compared to Aluminum or Titanium, it’s a strong, stiff,
    lightweight material but it can also be sensitive to direct sunlight
  • Aluminum will dent and deform but carbon will crack under high impact which can make it unrideable, this bike is almost a showpiece or a race-only platform
  • Unfortunately, the Di2 electronic shifter and display readout must be charged separately from the Bosch Powerpack 400 battery, the Di2 battery is located inside the steering tube
  • It costs a lot more to build a carbon fiber bike than an aluminum alloy or steel bike right now, because you have to make special molds… so this ebike is super expensive, I was amazed that they offer it in four frame sizes because that means four different molds!
  • I understand why they didn’t include rack bosses but a bottle cage mounting point would be nice, there’s no kickstand (not surprising) but be careful not to let the bike tip as it might be more vulnerable than aluminum
  • I missed having a dropper seatpost, perhaps it would add too much weight for reacing but it makes mounting and transitioning from climbs to drops much easier
  • Because the Bosch Performance Line motors use a smaller sprocket that rotates 2.5 times as fast as your own pedal cadence, I feel like it’s fast and responsive but also noisier than Brose and some other systems, you get this distinct humming noise as demonstrated in the video review above, the freewheel is also pretty noisy because it has more pawls to produce faster pickup

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86 and still kicking
7 months ago

I’d like to know how many $16K+ bikes Haibike can sell in the United States. I’m confused as to why something at this price point even exists.

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Court Rye
7 months ago

Some people have a lot of money, it’s neat to push the limits of technology and showcase what’s possible… in many ways this is like the first Tesla automobile which pushed how fast and far an electric car could go. Only wealthy people could afford them (or people who enjoy racing or are sponsored). It creates a template for future high-end products which might cost less.

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Adam
7 months ago

Haibike seems to have two of the lightest ebikes — the 2017 models are 17.5 kg (38.6lbs claimed, down from 42lbs) for the mouthful named “XDURO FullSeven Carbon 10.0” and a heavier Carbon 8.0 at 19.5 kg (43lbs) is still lighter than Specialized’s similarly priced S-Works Levo (50lbs.) The Carbon now carries up to 120kg “total” so that’s up to 264lb, up from 2016 at 250lbs. I think you have to expect some “cost of consumables” when design emphasizes adding lightness, especially with an electric motor in the undercarriage.

I (far) prefer the design of the Levo, and the suspension geometry wins races in the non-electric version, so Specialized has the upper hand on it’s lower-end model (same frame, different components, half the price.) I wish Specialized could look competitively at the weight of the Haibike. All that said, bring on the comparison ride, back to back, with the 2017 top of the line models:

If there’s real world pricing, that would be good to know, too. Thanks!

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Court Rye
7 months ago

Good thoughts Adam, a head to head comparison would be cool! I don’t have access to these both of these ebikes as easily as some others but there are race events which could change that. Are you in the market for something like this? It sounds like you might have owned non-electric Specialized models before?

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Adam
7 months ago

I imagine these high-end bikes aren’t up for demo without the manufacturer making it happen. If you’re in the Bay Area again, there’s a great store next to the Golden Gate Bridge, Roaring Mouse Cycles for Specialized and there’s Motostrano for Haibike.

I’m shopping for a bike like the Levo or XDURO. Right now I’m the sole power source for my bikes, but around SF, something for hills means mid-drive and something that’s fun once you’re on single track means light full suspension. I plan on getting something asap for the summer.

I’m wondering if either S-brand or H-brand would sell a frameset and let the bike shop (or me) build it up with a SRAM XX1 Eagle groupo … still insane dollars, and maybe less resale value, but more fun to build up a bespoke (pun) bike. : ) It’s also hard to shop around for best prices, but it seems like the “street” price is considerably less than the “recommended retail” tag hanging off the handlebars. That could well mean building up a bare frame is more expensive than a discount on the well-equipped model, then the bike shop does some swapping of parts (assuming they build the bike from a kit provided by the factory.)

It’s hard to compare the bikes, and it seems like for me the S-brand is a better solution because they’ve got the handling and the design (especially integration of the motor and battery) with a higher torque number. In riding the Levo I felt like 20 mph was a bit limiting and you really hit a wall at that speed, plus the gearing is a little short (so a wider range cluster with a 50 tooth (!) would allow a bigger ring and still have a good grannie gear.) The Haibike, if it tips the scales at a real world 38lbs is a significant edge, but I don’t know about the handling (haven’t ridden it) and it’s more the appearance of a mountain bike frame that’s got a battery and motor on it. It would be great to know if Specialized is close to offering a carbon frame. Some not-so-little things like shift detection are important considerations, too. The Levo doesn’t back off the motor if you back off the pedals (if anything, it “fills in” because it things you’re fading) … it would be great to see Brose offer a shift-detection solution for Specialized.

I waited to see what the April release from Specialized, but the Vado doesn’t seem to predict new technology for the Levo (you tell me.) Thanks for your work, it’s valuable information, and entertaining!

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Court Rye
7 months ago

Hi Adam! I haven’t seen any ebikes with the 12 speed SRAM XX1 Eagle groupset yet in person, that would be fantastic… I know you could build it but you’d be throwing away an already nice 10 or 11-speed setup. To build a frame + motor from scratch is nearly impossible if you want Bosch, Brose or Yamaha. They don’t seem to offer direct to consumer, just integrate with mainstream brands like Specialized, Trek, Giant, Haibike etc. I do like Specialized but Haibike looks awesome and had been in the ebike game for just as long (possibly longer in Europe) and has many more models… unfortunately, they all stand out because of the add-on battery. I’ll have some very cool looking Bosch integrated bikes being published soon. One from Lapierre and another from Cannondale. Thanks for the compliments, I work hard on the site to promote something I belive is positive :)

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Ian Mangham
1 week ago

That noise tho

Ian Mangham
1 week ago

If won the lottery I'd buy one in minute's

Ian Mangham
2 weeks ago

Amazing

ibrooksie
2 months ago

Sold one to a customer and it came back in a day. The seat broke. It is only rated for 90kg rider and ROAD USE ONLY.

LuisManuelHdez
2 months ago

Stop! It's just a bike with carbon parts. 17k is downright ludicrous! Those wheels probably cost about $500.00 to manufacture😂

Wael alshami
4 months ago

this e bike is not for us (normal ppl ) lol

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 months ago

Yeah, I couldn't afford it :/

bobby bob
4 months ago

Get a wave runner damnet

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 months ago

I love wave runners :D are you talking about the old ones with the folding handlebar or the stable sit ones?

bobby bob
4 months ago

This bike is dumb

bobby bob
4 months ago

This guy is dumb

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 months ago

The best part about being dumb... is that you usually don't know it :D

Dan Atkinson
5 months ago

Those wheels look stupid haha

Rjames
6 months ago

Court once again awesome review. Could you do a review on the haibike urban plus 2017. Propel bike has it on their website. Thanks man. Keep it up.

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 months ago

Hi Rjames! I haven't had an opportunity to film that one in person... and may not before year end, but I will keep trying

Playfer
7 months ago

At £15K, this bike doesn't make any sense. You can't race with it, so the concept of high price for marginal gains is pointless. It's more than double the price of any other top-of-the-range electric full suspension MTB and only a little lighter.

Martian Megafauna
7 months ago

Hey! Wait! I got a new complaint.
1. Those wheels. Even with full suspension, the idea of foregoing typical spoked wheels, and the resilience that they provide, in favor of rigid, non-compliant carbon spokes, seems like a wrong turn. In theory, and this bike is apparently NOT an example of this, a well-tuned, long-travel suspension system in combination with BIG tires could accommodate the rigid wheel, but why? This is no feather weight MTB.
2. $$, !!

pipeman451
7 months ago

Wild!!!

Andrée Markefors
7 months ago

Look at that! Some people commenting are realising for the first time that the price/performance ratio isn't linear all the way up to 10.000.000 USD. Who could have known?

Please, somebody tell Haibike, sports car makers and any other luxury goods makers to stop this nonsense IMMEDIATELY! Wrong buttons are being pressed here! Sensitive toes stepped on! Lean budgets are exploding....

For the sake of all that's good: stop snivelling and dry your tears!!

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 months ago

...sniff, okay :( I'll just use these $50 bills to dry my tears

K Simpson
7 months ago

Way to noisy! I suppose that's a good thing if you are in heavy traffic, you won't need a horn to alert others you are behind them.

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 months ago

The Bosch motor is just louder than most other mainstream mid-drives this generation. My camera mount makes it sound pretty loud but in practice it's not so bad for the rider and other people around

AnAceism
7 months ago

stealth bomber would be a better buy then this

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 months ago

Yeah, it depends on the application, but I agree you'd get a lot more power and speed there... and weight :P

Surfdocsteve
7 months ago

It's a little over priced. But, Santa Cruz Bronson full carbon high end bike is 10G's so this is not that off. Some high end road bikes are in the 12G range with no motor. This is not for the guy who cares about price and wants the best and lightest bike possible. This fits that niche. The rest of us will settle for a 3G version of the same bike and take the 15lbs penalty.

Malte Schümann
7 months ago

Haibike does by far the most ugly ebikes. This is their worst.

F r e e l e e
7 months ago

Carbon is a mistake for the e bike frame as its weak. yes weak bash a carbon frame and its finished for good.