Haibike XDURO AMT Pro Review

Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Electric Bike Review 1
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Bosch Midmount Motor
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro 11 Speed Cassette
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Bosch Display Lcd
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Avid Disc Brakes
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Fox Fork
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Side Shot
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Pedals Crank Arms
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Battery Pack
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Bosch Buttons
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Crank Brothers Wheelset
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Front Wheel
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Remote Seat Adjustment
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Remote Seat Trigger
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Electric Bike Review 1
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Bosch Midmount Motor
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro 11 Speed Cassette
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Bosch Display Lcd
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Avid Disc Brakes
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Fox Fork
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Side Shot
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Pedals Crank Arms
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Battery Pack
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Bosch Buttons
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Crank Brothers Wheelset
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Front Wheel
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Remote Seat Adjustment
Haibike Xduro Amt Pro Remote Seat Trigger

Summary

  • Top of the line all mountain style electric bike with full suspension and middrive motor
  • Light weight, high end frame and components keep bike under 50 pounds
  • Only offers pedal assist with max of 20mph but Bosch drive system is intuitive, responsive and well balanced

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Video Review

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Introduction

Make:

Haibike

Model:

XDURO AMT Pro 27.5

Price:

$7,800 USD

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Trail, Mountain

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

5 Year Frame, 2 Year Motor and Battery

Availability:

United States, Europe

Model Year:

2014

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

46.5 lbs (21.09 kg)

Battery Weight:

5.5 lbs (2.49 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.8 lbs (3.99 kg)

Frame Material:

Aluminum 6061 MTB, 4-Bar Linkage System, Gravity Casting Interface, Hydroformed Tubes

Frame Sizes:

15.74 in (39.97 cm)17.32 in (43.99 cm)18.89 in (47.98 cm)20.47 in (51.99 cm)

Frame Types:

High-Step

Frame Colors:

Black with Gold Accents

Frame Fork Details:

Fox 34 Talas CTD Adjust FIT 120-150 mm, Air Spring and Rebound, 15 mm Thru Axle

Frame Rear Details:

Fox CTD Kashima BV LV,150 mm Frame Travel, 142/12 mm Thru Axle

Gearing Details:

11 Speed 1x11 SRAM X01, 10-42T

Shifter Details:

SRAM X01 Trigger on Right Bar

Cranks:

The Hive, Exalite R Forged Aluminum

Pedals:

XLC MTB, Platform

Headset:

FSA No. 57, Semi-Integrated, Tapered

Stem:

Xduro Aluminum, A-Head

Handlebar:

Xduro Lowriser Aluminum

Brake Details:

Avid X.0 Trail Hydraulic Disc with 200 mm Front Rotor and 180 mm Rear Rotor

Grips:

XLC Sport with Locking Rings

Saddle:

Xduro Light MTB

Seat Post:

Crank Brothers Kronolog, Remote Adjust

Rims:

Crank Brothers Iodine 3

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Hans Dampf PSC, 27.5

Wheel Sizes:

27.5 in (69.85cm)

Tire Details:

Foldable

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bosch Gen 2 with Shift Detection

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

350 watts

Motor Peak Output:

550 watts

Motor Torque:

60 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Samsung

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

11 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

396 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium Manganese Oxide

Charge Time:

3.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

35 miles (56 km)

Estimated Max Range:

65 miles (105 km)

Display Type:

Bosch Intuvia, Removable Backlit Grayscale LCD

Readouts:

Speed, 4 Assist Levels, Battery Voltage, Odometer, Estimated Range, Clock, Max Speed, Average Speed, Trip Time

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad with Tactile Button Feedback

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Combined Torque, Cadence and Speed Measured 1,000 Times Per Second), (Eco 50%, Tour 120%, Sport 190%, Turbo 275%)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

Haibike is a high end German bicycle manufacturer which is part of the Accell group, a Dutch holding company that also owns Currie Technologies (IZIP, eZip and eFlow). They offer a range of mountain and cross country style electric bikes that utilize midmount or mid-drive motor systems. The Haibike XDURO AMT Pro is their top of the line offering with full suspension, ultralight components and an upgraded 350 watt motor and battery system by Bosch. This bike is a strong performer in off road settings with seamless motor control and balanced weight distribution.

Driving the All Mountain Pro is 350 watt mid-drive motor system that senses both pedal cadence and torque to support, rather than drive, the bike in a natural way. Riding this bike truly feels natural and rarely steps out of control. This is quite the achievement because so many other ebikes focus on powering the rider instead of complimenting them. As you could imagine, this is incredibly important in delicate riding situations that one might encounter in off road settings. While bikes like the Easy Motion Neo Jumper and others offer similar power and suspension I’ve often found myself working with the brakes to finely tune motor feedback (brake activation cuts motor output on ebikes). In this way I was able to manage the ride but it required more thoughtful piloting vs. the Xduro AMT Pro and other Bosch driven bikes that respond much more quickly and automatically.

A motor can only perform as well as the battery powering it and the XDURO AMT Pro leverages a 36 volt 11 amp hour cell that provides great range and stays out of the way. The battery pack is removable and sits right where a water bottle might otherwise live on a traditional mountain bike. The one downside here is that there are no water bottle mounting holes in the downtube. Pack that CamelBak! The battery fits seamlessly, won’t hit your feet when pedaling and keeps the center of gravity low. The packs are replaceable and in my experience, if you completely run out of juice or decide to take the pack off the bike still rides very well.

There are lots of high end components working together to make this bike feel special. From the adjustable front and rear Fox shocks to the oversized Avid X.0 disc brakes, Crank Brothers Iodine 3 wheelset (that looks amazing) and remotely adjustable seat post that lets you instantly switch from climbing position to hill bombing or air catching position this bike screams quality. While you only get 11 gears to choose from, in my experience this has been plenty given the electric assist. The Haibike AMT Pro (and other Bosch systems) only offers one front cog and this is where the motor applies force. The negative here is fewer pedal settings when compared with multiple front rings but the upside is that this allows the chain to be tighter and helps to avoid drops. In fact, the Haibike features a pully and guide ring above the front ring that elevates the chain over the chainstay avoiding slaps on the frame and making gear shifting easier. This pulley and the front ring even include built in guides to keep the chain secure. It’s a great system that is quiet, safe and still powerful.

One of the biggest benefits of any middrive electric bike is that changing tires and flats or fixing wheels becomes much easier than on an ebike with a hub motor. The AMT Pro is easy to service and parts are interchangeable with normal non-electric bikes. The other interesting benefit here is that the suspension handles as intended. When you add a six pound rear hub motor to an electric bike, especially one with rear suspension, the rebound changes because there is more weight and thus inertia when riding. This is avoided completely by the Bosch system and yet shifting gears remains relatively unchanged. Any mid-drive system is going to add extra stress to the chain and rear cassette due to the added force of the motor pulling but the speed with which this system starts and stops lets you as a rider be more delicate when shifting and thus more natural, prolonging the life of the components.

If it isn’t obvious, I’m a huge fan of this bike and the motor system powering it. $7,800 is a lot to spend for any bike but you truly get what you pay for here and this is one of the most natural electric mountain bikes I’ve ever ridden. I love the large LCD unit with control switches broken out to be right next to your hand when riding. You get all the standard info such as speed, distance and battery capacity but you also get a special “range” display that dynamically estimates how far you can go if use continues at the same rate. While this bike doesn’t offer drive speeds in excess of 20 miles per hour with this bike, that’s perfectly fine for mountain biking where handling weight are more important. This bike would be perfect for riders looking to go further on trails, keep up with friends who get out more or just be easier on your knees in the uphill sections. It’s a ton of fun and in my opinion, the future of ebike technology.

Pros:

  • Battery is removable for charging off the bike
  • Super high end components, Crank Brother’s wheelset, Fox shocks, SRAM X01 shifters cassette and derailleur
  • Light weight at just over 46 pounds
  • Remotely adjustable seat post for climbing or bombing hills (high for climbing, low for riding down or taking jumps to avoid contact)
  • Bosch drive system is ultra responsive, creates less strain on components when shifting gears and makes climbing hills feel natural
  • Info button and up/down pedal assist buttons are located next to the grip making them easy to use

Cons:

  • No water bottle cage mounting points
  • No trigger or twist throttle mode, pedal assist only
  • Top speed of 20 miles per hour vs. some 28mph pedal assist bikes

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Larry Pizzi
5 years ago

Thanks for the fantastic review Court.

Just a few things that I thought I should point out; The Gen2 Bosch system will be exactly the same on a range of Haibike Xduro mountain bikes that range in price from $4,000 to over $8,000. The cost difference is related to the standard bike components. The AMT RX, same full suspension 150mm font and rear travel is $5500, a 120mm travel cross country bike for $4900 and a 29er hard tail at $4000.

Regarding the Cons; 1) WB bosses are not common of FS Mountain bike and commonly riders use hydration packs like a Camelback, 2) Yes, no throttle but in Turbo mode (most powerful) light pedaling is as good as a throttle, 3) 20mph (32kph) is plenty fast, especially in an off road environment, IMHO. Actually the EU standard is 25kph, top speed which is actually fine for off-road.

Hope that helps to clarify things for those reading the review and again, thank you for the great coverage.

Best,
Larry

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John
2 years ago

Lol buy a bafang bbshd 1000w and a 52v 25 AH battery, slap it on any decent MTB and dominate this overpriced garbage.

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court
2 years ago

In my experience the Bosch system is much more responsive than a BBS02 unit which is critical for precision trail riding. Both are fun in their own right but the BBSHD 1000 watt unit is illegal on all public trails and paths (except for some areas of Texas). A closer comparison would be the BBS02 500 or 750 which are fun but still lack shift sensing, hang much lower on the frame, expose wires, don’t have a removable display panel which can be useful for bombing down after big climbs (if you’re concerned about falling).

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Cess Outdoors
2 years ago

Don't you just love this expensive bikes with all these features but they somehow seem to forget to put a 20 dollars bike stand?

phil law
2 years ago

The point of electric bikes are to go green and not kill yourself physically. But when the price cost more the a good used car it's kind of ridiculous. Don't get me wrong it is a great looking bike but price is not what a e bike is about. I have ridden a Haibike and a Bafang 750w mid drive installed on a full suspension Titus racer x and Bafang beats it hands down.

chronicom420
2 years ago

As a mountain biker I find these bikes to be hilarious. If anyone tried to ride one of these with us they would get an endless amount of shit. For old people and commuters maybe they make sense, or I guess for people like the guy in this video who have injuries. If you don't fall in any of those categories and you ride one of these on the trails you are a wuss! You can get a real bike with as good or better components for much less.

Ben Lindskog
2 years ago

Thanks mate. i bought the Bosch first gen motor it did over 10,000ks. 70km 4 times a week and never missed a beat. Then one day just about to start my journey to work grinding and locking up it died.. now going thru the warranty process, will post how that turns out.. i really hope these electric bicycle are not a ticking time bomb.

Jimbo Jones
2 years ago

Just love these bikes mate

Blackrainbow
3 years ago

I have the same bike and i love it. So much fun!

Cannondale2019
3 years ago

rather buy a fresh ktm 250 2 stroke,8000grand same price

Cannondale2019
2 years ago

+Speed Play Ok I bought a Cube stereo 140 hybrid with the bosch,1500 km of single trail all mountain riding.Love it! i normally ride a 20lb Cannonade flash carbon,light fast ,brutally hard ride compared to the Cube.
I want the 2016 Haibike all mtn 27.5 ,I love e-bikes now,great fun well worth the money.

t1tech
3 years ago

Love your reviews (EasyMotion Jumper and Jet), thanks to you, keep them coming

Pirlow Bert
4 years ago

fucking gay voice

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 years ago

Well, I can't really choose my voice but you can definitely choose your attitude. It seems like maybe your peers and possibly your family have eroded yours and that's a bummer... I hope the video review helped you out and for the record, I'm extremely pro gay and there is no correlation between voice type and sexual orientation (aside from culturally selective speech pattern tendencies). In my experience, gay people tend to be more understanding and supportive because they have to deal with the ignorance you're exemplifying here and they often achieve higher levels of education and earn more money which is reinvested into education and community support which ultimately helps people like you become more well adjusted and ultimately happier.

nebula722
4 years ago

Great bike!  With all of that suspension does the bike ride really comfortable on asphalt? It seems to me it would be more comfortable than a cruiser.  I bet it would be a rocket with a 750 watt motor.  As always, I enjoyed the review.

nebula722
4 years ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com I looked at your ride again and that is a sweet ride. The Emotion is a great looking and riding ebike.  Suspension has become an issue with me as my bikes do not have it.  The only thing I wish my Manhattan / Golden Motors kit bike had that it does not is suspension.  I will get that awesome post you reviewed and live with the front.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 years ago

It does feel great on asphalt, full suspension is awesome but the seating position on this is pretty forward so your back and neck can still feel sore and the saddle isn't soft at all. The motor is more than capable of reaching 30+ mph but it's purposefully limited to comply with law in the US. Check out this speed pedelec Haibike with the same motor that is a speed pedelec design meant to go up to 28 mph http://electricbikereview.com/haibike/xduro-superrace-28/

UncleGroOve
4 years ago

Yo'
1) what's this thing of riding and filming with just one hand mate?
2) Show us some real footage of *real trail climbing*. Something where even a relatively well trained biker like me won't be able to ride (or will choose to walk to conserve energy)
3) tech specs: how steep is the head angle? Chainstay length - is it any different from a regular bike?
4) Handling in the more extreme conditions (i.e. steep + technical uphill, downhill)?...

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 years ago

Great points, my time is often limited during shoots like this and sometimes they don't have all of the details on the bike so I fill them in later back at the site http://electricbikereview.com/haibike/xduro-amt-pro/ in some other videos I do more off-road testing but it all depends on the situation. I'm a one person team and I get these reviews by visiting shops or trade shows so there are some limitations. Here's a review with more test footage: Stealth Bomber Electric Bike Review

Shawn Kummer
4 years ago

Enjoy watching all your e-bike reviews. Along with the Haibikes, I have also been looking at the Stealth Bomber and Fighter Elec. Bikes.  If you were going to be purchasing one of these bikes for your own personal use of the three which one would you choose? Haibike Xduro AMT Pro, Stealth Bomber, Stealth Fighter?  The problem I'm having is finding a vendor who has these bikes in stock where I can get in a test ride :(  Thanks for your feedback and keep up the GREAT work with your reviews.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 years ago

Thanks Shawn! I'd definitely go with the Haibike AMT Pro because I ride on city paths and mountain trails a lot and I think the Stealth bikes really stand out (they are much bigger and aren't much fun to pedal). If you have private land and are really looking for more of a dirt bike then the Stealth bikes are tons of fun... You can go much faster, jump higher etc. but there's no pedal assist, again... it's more like a really quiet motocross bike. You might be able to scoot around town some with a Stealth (depending on where you live) but be very careful because any accidents could get you into legal trouble (unless you get it licensed like a car and add turn signals etc). I hope this helps :)

Pe Gie
4 years ago

Have you ridden the Focus Thron or Focus Jarifa with Impulse drive? I've heard that this drive is more quiet than Bosch, being equally powerful. 

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 years ago

+Pe Gie That's going to be a while, didn't get the chance at Interbike but I'll be heading to California later this year to spend some time at Currie where they have all of the models and some great terrain for testing :)

Pe Gie
4 years ago

+Electric Bike Review Thanks a lot, it sure helps. When are you going to review the new Haibike Sduro with Yamaha motor?

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 years ago

+Pe Gie In that case I'd go for the Haibike because there are more dealers here in the USA and Currie Technologies has great customer support. I like the center balance vs. hub (which is tougher to service with flats, spoke and rim issues) and appreciate the way it senses when you shift and cuts out but still leverages your sprockets vs. a hub motor. Now, if the Xion setup had a throttle it might be a little different... The Bosch centerdrive is louder but not that much. Hope that helps!

Pe Gie
4 years ago

+Electric Bike Review I knew you'd say it would be a tough call ;) But imagine you have money only for one bike and you HAVE TO choose :) Xion hub or Bosch mid-drive? Both hardtails. Or maybe impulse 2.0 mid-drive?

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 years ago

+Pe Gie I'd go with the Haibike if I could get full suspension. If both bikes had to be hardtails (to be fair since the Impulse Drive uses a hub motor vs. mid-drive) I think I'd be pretty closely tied. It's quieter and feels zippy no matter which gear you're pedaling in but also changes the balance of the bike vs. mid-drive. It's a tough call, the Impulse motor feels very strong and also has regenerative braking: http://electricbikereview.com/focus/jarifa-offroad-premium-xt/

Joep Van dillen
4 years ago

een mooi speelgoed,maar het moet wel goed weer zijn !!

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 years ago

Yeah, this is a fancy toy to be sure. Here's the less expensive version: http://electricbikereview.com/haibike/xduro-fs-rx-27-5/

kathy toona
4 years ago

I recently test road the bike a step lower than this xduro amt pro called the xduro fs.
It works great. Torque assist is very smooth and overall a well handling bike.

The frame and torque assist mechanism are the same for both bikes, what distinguishes them are quality of the groupo, wheels, fork and shock.

For those people that think they are cheating exercise and not getting a workout, do not worry you still have to peddle the xduro, but at approximately 30 - 5% effort depending on one of four torque assist settings. You are still throwing it around the trails and riding like a true mountain bike, although with a lot less peddle effort and more bike weight. Hate that steep hill you have to get over to make it your favorite trail head? Hate no more because this will take you over it with ease.

During my search for a new mountain bike, I recently compared a trek fuel 9.9 to the xduro amt pro. You just get so much more in the xduro amt pro with the additional torque assist mechanism.

These bikes have been popular in Germany and U.K. for many years and bugs have probably been worked out. All the translated and English reviews from across the pond have been overwhelmingly positive.

I ordered a xduro amt pro and I am awaiting its arrival.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 years ago

Hi Kathy, yeah I like the FS 27.5" a lot! Recently reviewed it here: http://electricbikereview.com/haibike/xduro-fs-rx-27-5/ I hope you enjoy your Haibike, these are awesome machines and I love how they still ride like bicycles but make climbing easier. I've got a knee issue so it's a huge benefit for me :)

CncObsession
4 years ago

How about a helmet cam? 

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 years ago

Good call, I do better camera work (and audio) on newer reviews. Helmet cam is alright but the wide angle kind of makes it hard to see the bike so I do frame mounted cams or handheld with a different setup.

markharrispt
4 years ago

For the Eco motorcyclist & speed demon. Reasonable price for the spec, & built for purpose. Mid-drive & Iodine wheels amongst other bits lighten the weight, so it remains a mountain bike, unlike say the stealth. Nice bike.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 years ago

Good words, thanks for the bits on iodine wheels. This thing is a blast to ride and definitely still a bicycle.

Oinky Aldritz
4 years ago

Naaah my body is my bike's motor. Probably when i turn 60 I'll get me one of these, or better yet, a motorcycle. 

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 years ago

The cool thing about this is you can ride it on bike paths, don't need a license or insurance and it's way quieter, cleaner and cheaper to fix than a motorcycle. I started riding electric bikes because one of my knees got injured but now I love the range and speed, keeps the sweat away when commuting too.

VK7001.P
4 years ago

but what about us who are 6'4 and want a longer bike for long distance?

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 years ago

Many of the Haibikes come on several sizes so they will fit your body (even if you're tall) and they go very very far because of the efficient centerdrive system. You can often get 50+ miles per charge. Another Haibike that's pretty cool is the Superrace http://electricbikereview.com/haibike/xduro-superrace-28/

BIG SHAQ
4 years ago

For that price you can get a nice dirt bike...

BIG SHAQ
4 years ago

That is very true... this seems more versatile and cheaper in the long run. I'll probably test ride one in the future.

ElectricBikeReview.com
4 years ago

Sure... but you couldn't ride it on most sidewalks, through parks or on mountain biking trails. You'd have to put gas in it at $3.60 a gallon vs. $0.10 per charge. It'd way heavier which means you might need a trailer and of course it would be louder and harder to fix dealing with engine oil, clutch and starter issues that tend to be messy and time consuming.

I like motocross bikes for certain applications but that's not really what this electric bike is about and the price here is definitely high (it's a top of the line full suspension carbon bike with the latest drive system from Bosch). If you like the feel and power of motocross bike but are interested in electric consider checking out the Stealth Bomber that can hit 50 miles per hour: http://electricbikereview.com/stealth/bomber/