Haibike XDURO Urban Review

Haibike Xduro Urban Electric Bike Review 1
Haibike Xduro Urban
Haibike Xduro Urban Bosch Centerdrive Sprocket
Haibike Xduro Urban Bosch Powerpack 400
Haibike Xduro Urban Bosch Intuvia Display
Haibike Xduro Urban Bosch Centerdrive 350
Haibike Xduro Urban Hydraulic Disc Brake
Haibike Xduro Urban Led Headlight
Haibike Xduro Urban Rear Led Light
Haibike Xduro Urban Shimano 160 Mm Rotor
Haibike Xduro Urban Shimano Deore Xt Derailleur
Haibike Xduro Urban Electric Bike Review 1
Haibike Xduro Urban
Haibike Xduro Urban Bosch Centerdrive Sprocket
Haibike Xduro Urban Bosch Powerpack 400
Haibike Xduro Urban Bosch Intuvia Display
Haibike Xduro Urban Bosch Centerdrive 350
Haibike Xduro Urban Hydraulic Disc Brake
Haibike Xduro Urban Led Headlight
Haibike Xduro Urban Rear Led Light
Haibike Xduro Urban Shimano 160 Mm Rotor
Haibike Xduro Urban Shimano Deore Xt Derailleur

Summary

  • An efficient, light weight road style electric bike with a perfectly balanced all-aluminum frame and electric drive system
  • Convenient quick release wheels, integrated LED lights, quality hydraulic disc brakes and a removable battery and display
  • Pedal assist only drive mode with 20 mph top speed, no water bottle cage, rigid feel given the narrow tires and lack of suspension, high-step frame design may be difficult for some to mount, solid two year warranty

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Introduction

Make:

Haibike

Model:

XDURO Urban

Price:

$4,450 USD

Body Position:

Forward Aggressive

Suggested Use:

Urban, Road

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

5 Year Frame, 2 Year Motor and Battery

Availability:

United States

Model Year:

2015

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

41 lbs (18.59 kg)

Battery Weight:

5.5 lbs (2.49 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.8 lbs (3.99 kg)

Frame Material:

6061 Aluminum Alloy, Hydroformed Tubes, Gravity Casting Interface

Frame Sizes:

19.7 in (50.03 cm)20.9 in (53.08 cm)22 in (55.88 cm)23.2 in (58.92 cm)

Frame Types:

High-Step

Frame Colors:

Graphite with Matte Black Highlights

Frame Fork Details:

Aluminum Alloy, Rigid

Gearing Details:

10 Speed 1x10 Shimano Deore XT M 786 Shadow Plus, 11-36T

Shifter Details:

Shimano SLX M 670, Rapidfire, I-Spec

Cranks:

XDURO Aluminum Alloy

Pedals:

XLC, CNC Platform

Headset:

FSA No. 57, Semi-Integrated, Tapered

Stem:

Aluminum Alloy, A-Head

Handlebar:

Aluminum Alloy Lowriser

Brake Details:

Shimano M 615 Hydraulic Disc with 160 mm Rotors

Grips:

XLC Sport with Locking Rings

Saddle:

XDURO Light

Seat Post:

Aluminum Alloy

Seat Post Diameter:

31.6 mm

Rims:

Mid-Dish Rodi Airline with Shimano SLX M675 Hubs

Spokes:

DT Swiss Industry

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Marathon Supreme Folding, 700 x 32c

Wheel Sizes:

28 in (71.12cm)

Tire Details:

Reflective Sidewall Stripes

Tube Details:

Presta Valve

Accessories:

eHeadlight LED 60 Lux, String Rear LED Light Strip, Aluminum Alloy Chain Guide

Other:

Quick Release Wheels (Front and Rear), Locking Removable Battery Pack with LED Charge Level Indicator, Shimano HG 54 Chain

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bosch Gen2 with Shift Detection

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

350 watts

Motor Torque:

60 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Samsung

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

11 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

396 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

3.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

35 miles (56 km)

Estimated Max Range:

65 miles (105 km)

Display Type:

Removable Backlit Grayscale LCD

Readouts:

Speed, 4 Assist Levels, Battery Voltage, Odometer, Estimated Range, Clock, Max Speed, Average Speed, Trip Time

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad with Tactile Feedback, Stem Mounted

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Combined Torque, Cadence and Speed), (Eco 50%, Tour 120%, Sport 190%, Turbo 275%)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

The Haibike XDURO Urban is a light weight, efficient road bike with a premium mid-drive motor system and battery from Bosch that together are capable of impressive range and climbing performance. It offers a 20 mph top speed, which is a bit lower than the other road-style Haibkes (the Race and Superrace), but can easily be pedaled beyond as demonstrated in the video. While part of me would appreciate the higher 28 mph speed pedelec design featured on those other two ebikes, this one may benefit from increased range thanks to decreased drag at lower speeds. It’s one of the more affordable Haibikes at ~$4,500 and has a tough urban appearance that blend in more. This is an ebike I could see myself parking at a bike rack and therefore riding more frequently… it feels more utilitarian but still sports some great extras including premium front and rear omnidirectional LED lights, a Shimano Deore XT drivetrain, locking grips and hydraulic disc brakes. While it only comes in a high-step frame design, there are four sizes to choose from and the diamond frame style should be easier to mount on car and bus racks while providing improved rigidity and strength. The all-aluminum frame can feel abrasive over long distances when the tarmac isn’t smooth and a carbon fork might have improved ride quality a bit. The Urban also lacks a water bottle cage which isn’t ideal for road cycling but aftermarket adapters can solve this.

The centerdrive system on the Urban consists of a 350 watt geared centerdrive motor developed by Bosch. It can only be activated through pedaling but is super smart, measuring your rear wheel speed, pedal cadence and pedal torque at ~1,000 times per second! Instead of turning one of the bicycle wheels directly, as a hub motor would, this one spins a small sprocket that pulls the chain and leverages gears in the rear cassette for improved climbing ability or top speed. Note that the smaller front sprocket does not require the rider to pedal faster, it’s actually geared to rotate ~2 times for every pedal stroke. It doesn’t introduce significant drag to the system and can be used even in non electric mode, pedaling as you would with a traditional unpowered bicycle. The true benefit to the smaller ring is that it allows the motor to operate at more efficient RPM’s and deliver more effective torque. One possible downside to mid-drive motors like this is that they can increase the strain and wear on your chain and cassette but the Bosch system minimizes this because it has shift detection built in. It automatically lets up when it senses that you’re shifting gears and this reduces mashing. I’ve ridden this same second generation Bosch Centerdrive on probably 15+ other ebikes (including full suspension off-road models) and it performs phenomenally. For riders at or below the 170 lb weight range it will squash nearly any road based hill you throw at it. Don’t be fooled by the 350 watt motor vs. the 500 watt hubs on bikes like the Specialized Turbo or Stromer ST2 (which are also road style). Each of these electric bikes offers a different advantage but the Bosch system used on the Haibike Urban here delivers as much or more torque at 60 Newton meters, and more efficiency for distance riding. One other downside here however is increased whirring noise that you can hear in the video above.

Following from the motor placement, the battery pack is also centrally mounted on the frame. It’s a beautiful looking design that’s easy to charge on or off the bike and the locking core (made by ABUS) is sturdy with each key being securely unique (it’s a routed in-cut key like many cars now use). The battery pack itself has a set of five LEDs built in so you can quickly determine the charge level whether the pack is on or off the ebike. I recommend charging the pack after at least one bar has been used or before storing it for long periods. It’s wise to top it off ever three months if you haven’t used it and storing it in an environment that doesn’t get too hot or cold will also help it last longer. The batteries inside the pack are 18650 size and contain a Lithium Manganese chemistry that’s valued for being light weight and durable. It’s the same cells used in electric cars like the Tesla Roadster or Model S and of similar high quality. The one complaint I do have with regard to the battery is that it’s not completely integrated into the downtube like the Turbo and ST2… This puts weight higher up, doesn’t look as clean and takes up valuable space on the downtube that might otherwise be used for a bottle cage mounting point. As mentioned earlier… there are not bosses for mounting a water bottle cage on this electric bike, and it’s a road bike! It should have at least one in my opinion. One upside here however is that the pack is less expensive to replace, being interchangeable with any other Bosch Gen 2 powered ebike. It should last for 1,000+ charge cycles if cared for and even comes with a two year warranty which is one of the longest I’m aware of in the ebike space. If you do need a replacement (or decide to get a second pack) Currie Technologies offers one for ~$600.

The control interface on the Haibike Xduro Urban electric bike is the same as all other Bosch systems for this generation. It shows speed, distance traveled, battery capacity remaining, timer and range estimation for each assist level. It’s really neat to see (on the fly) just how far the range estimator thinks you can go because it empowers you to plan accordingly and pop the battery off for a quick charge at the office or a friends house if needed. You can usually get the pack to ~80% capacity in just an hour and a half… In addition to the removable backlit LCD screen (which has four buttons surrounding it including power, reset, information and lights) there is also an independent button pad that lets you go up or down in assist modes. I like the tactile clicking feedback it produces as you navigate through four levels of assist (or zero which leaves the main display on to manage lights and function as a traditional cycle computer). The display is really one of my favorites on any electric bike because it can be swiveled forward and back to reduce glare and is completely removable for parking in public spaces or simply reducing wear and weight. This is one of the few electric bikes that could actually be lots of fun to ride without the battery or display! Sure, you’ve got an additional ~6 lbs of motor and mounting plate weight there, but it’s not really that bad.

In conclusion… the XDURO Urban is one of my favorite ebikes in the Haibike lineup for 2015. This isn’t because it’s actually the best road style electric bike they offer, it’s because I value the lower price point and less flashy aesthetic for use around town. This bike would perform amazingly on fun rides, helping you stay up with friends and conquer hills, but also commuting to work and hanging out at the bike rack. While $4,500 isn’t exactly cheap, it’s a lot less than the Race or Superrace and just $500 more than the least expensive Bosch powered ebikes available from anyone. I wouldn’t feel so bad if it got knocked over or scratched. The aluminum frame is solid and tough, the grips with lockers are a nice touch and the lights are some of the most beautiful and functional I’ve ever seen. If you can live with the more standard 20 mph top speed then this is an excellent choice. If you need the 28 mph upgrade or love the feeling of drop bars then I suggest checking out the XDURO Race (if you can afford it).

Pros:

  • Excellent range thanks to the narrow slick tires, firm aggressive frame (positioning the rider forward for improved aerodynamics) and efficient mid-drive motor that leverages the rear cassette
  • Light overall weight at ~41 pounds (depending on the size you choose), the motor and battery are low and center for improved balance and handling
  • Integrated front and rear LED lights powered by the main battery pack which can be activated conveniently through the main display buttons
  • The lights themselves are beautiful and unique (the headlight turns as you turn the bike, the rear light is extra tall and visible from three sides vs. just the back)
  • The Bosch Centerdrive system is efficient, smooth and powerful – it can climb very effectively with ~60 Nm of torque and can reach 65+ miles per charge in optimal conditions
  • Battery pack locks to frame for security using a quality ABUS core, it can be charged on or off the frame for convenience or to reduce weight if you’d like to ride this as a normal bicycle or are transporting it on a car rack (easier to lift, less weight on your rack, this bike weighs ~32.5 lbs without battery)
  • Stiff cranks, decent aluminum alloy platform pedals (that will likely be replaced with clipless), rigid frame for good power transfer when riding, tapered head tube for strength
  • Solid 10 speed cassette with quality Shimano Deore XT components offering a comfortable cadence at many speeds
  • Great customer support and warranty from Currie Technologies in the US (part of Accell Group which owns Haibike)
  • Four frame sizes offer better fit for a wider range of riders (50cm, 53cm, 56cm, 59cm)
  • Integrated aluminum alloy guide keeps the chain from dropping on the front sprocket at higher speeds if you hit rough terrain
  • Medium-dish aerodynamic rims reduce the drag that this wheelset produces, they look cool and may increase the visual footprint of the bike helping to reduce the potential for being hit by a car from the side
  • Shift detection helps reduce wear on the chain and sprockets, the bike experiences less mashing and is more intuitive to ride as a result

Cons:

  • Lower top speed than the other two road oriented Haibikes (the Race and Superrace) at just 20 mph vs. 28 mph speed-pedelec
  • The battery pack takes up the space where a water bottle cage might otherwise mount and there isn’t one on the seat tube, consider and aftermarket accessory for the tube, post or saddle rails
  • Narrow tires, stiff frame and performance saddle can feel jarring at higher speeds if terrain is not smooth, this is a true road bicycle
  • 6061 aluminum alloy frame is sturdy and extremely well made but doesn’t dampen vibration the way a carbon frame might, would be nice if the XDURO Urban came with a carbon fiber fork
  • No throttle mode, this bike only offers pedal assist (like all Bosch powered systems) but will get a better range than if it did

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Alexander
2 years ago

I must say this is really an amazing bike. Once you get a tuning chip, you really are taking off from there, reaching speeds 30 mph. It’s very well designed, elegant, solid, and has been flawless thus far, especially on the rougher pavements that my other former ebike (BH Evo Race) was not able to handle without glitches, error codes, and battery disconnects.

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Court Rye
2 years ago

Great feedback Alexander! I was surprised that Haibike didn’t make the Urban a speed pedelec and it sounds like you’ve discovered a workaround. Sounds like it’s holding up well to your routine, were you able to sell your EVO Race used or pass it on to a family member or friend or something?

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Alexander
2 years ago

Hey Court Rye: Without mentioning any details, I must say I came back to the dealer with way too many issues within 6 months of the date of purchase to work on these problems. The dealer took it back. This particular bike had way too many problems for me to pass it down to a friend. Not only that, but it was poorly designed ( very flaky battery connector, does not start immediately, the batter seems to slide easily, etc. ) while it looked certainly beautiful!

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rich c
3 months ago

In your face electric bike presence, no stealth pretense, but at 39 pounds it is light for an electric bike.
XDURO Urban S 5.0 ($ 4,699)
https://www.haibike.com/en-US/US/bikes/713/2018-xduro-urban-s-5-0#specs

These are fast bikes! Lighter than the usual ebike, and incredibly nimble. I had one for just a short time, but returned it when I found out I had purchased a bike that was on a safety recall. I related it to a Formula 1 machine, but it felt like a harsh ride to this aging body. Swapped for an XDURO Trekking S RX with a suspension seat post.

Mark Peralta
3 months ago

I know I'm probably in the minority here, but I am really looking forward to lightweight electric systems for road bikes.

I loved the Focus Project Y concept and now Orbea has a 250 watt system that will weigh 7 lbs for the entire system. Plus it allows up to two additional batteries if you want for a total of 750 watt hours.

Can't wait until these products are available to the public.

I know everyone has different needs and these bikes won't be for everyone, but it's what I want. The only thing I don't like about them is the 25 km/hr. speed restriction. I think that's a problem on a lightweight road bike as it's not hard to pedal faster than that. They need to have the speed limit at 32 or 45 km/hr. for these systems to be useful.

I want some help on the hills for my work commute. I'm fine riding 3-4 days a week without power, but I would be able to ride 5 days a week and be fresher with some assistance.

Anyone else out there excited by these offerings hopefully coming to market within the next year.

In your face electric bike presence, no stealth pretense, but at 39 pounds it is light for an electric bike.
XDURO Urban S 5.0 ($ 4,699)
https://www.haibike.com/en-US/US/bikes/713/2018-xduro-urban-s-5-0#specs

rich c
4 months ago

I think you would need a full suspension bike if you are recovering from spinal cord injury. The folding bikes have smaller diameter tires which I think will result in a harsher ride on many surfaces. I have a road tire on my Haibike XDURO Full Seven S RX and love it for urban riding. I just rode around the north side of Chicago this past weekend, and felt like the full suspension was a necessity. Between pot holes and construction, it was like riding a single trail in the woods! If you buy the Sondors, join the Facebook page. Sondors has about 1 or 2 people handling customer service and service is not a real thing for them, selling is their main directive. You can get a lot of help on the Facebook page, but you have to buy the parts and install them yourself if you have problems. I have two of their fat bikes, but I am handy with bike repairs.

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ath3na
7 months ago

Here's my LandShark (Hai = shark in German). So excited I couldn't even frame it properly. ;>

It's an awesome, well-built little tank. The perfect urban assault vehicle for rainy Seattle were every other block is a construction site and tearing up the roads around me seems to be a local hobby.

Anyone else have one of these puppies? I'm wondering:
1. What panniers will fix that rack?
2. What about dropper posts? Anyone know what fits?
3. Anyone cut down these wide handlebars?

I've honestly only ridden it home from the bike shop so far as I've been glued to my computers with a massive deadline crunch. I did love "turbo" mode and felt confident enough to pull out in traffic for the few blocks home - and I never ride in traffic. I have not yet tried using walk mode to get it up the half flight of stairs out of my apt basement.

I'm hoping the E-ness will help me get out and get some more exercise as various things have caused me to become weak and gain waaaaay too much weight. I haven't ridden in eons. I only purchased this because my old German Votec mountain bike was stolen a few months ago. Insurance would pay to replace it with a new one - but they won't just hand you the cash. I actually had to buy the bike and within a certain time frame.

Jamesfw
8 months ago

I have the Xduro Trekking S 5.0. I needed something for commuting. Getting old and needed something to level out the 12mi and 1000 ft gain. So far it's working out real well. I'm happy I have the S because I spend a lot of time in the 20-25 mph range and it works well. Definitely not a free ride, just not wearing myself out like I used to. It's definitely not a light bike (approx 57lb), which makes it feel real solid. As for the fork, don't really notice it. For maintenance purposes I would have rather had a fixed fork, possibly would have saved some weight too. Not looking forward to flat tire repairs, will probably leave tire on and pull the tube out the side rather than remove the wheel (heavy bike). Lights are good, although they turned out to be cyo premium rather than the Haibike front light. Not a problem as it is as bright as my Luxos I used to use, just not quite the same pattern. And sizing was interesting, I luckily decided on the 52 for my 5'8" frame. The 56 would have been just too big. The Bosch system is taking a little time to get used to, but overall I'm very pleased with how it works. I just find myself picking a cadence then adjusting the setting for the leg resistance I want, mostly tour and sport. The Battery is usually down to one and a half bars (on the 500) after 25mi with hills (cutting an average of 10 minutes off my commute each way). Headwinds no longer matter. Nice.

Thats really helpful and good to hear thanks. I also have the S 5.0 on its way and all your points don't surprise. Like you I also would have liked something lighter, I had in mind the Urban S with rigid forks, but because of the recall they are not expected this side of the world till June (New Zealand). I am itching for it to arrive. I was previously a motorcycle rider for my commute, but want to add a health aspect to my life. As soon as it is in my hands I'll put the Nyon on and report back.

Mr. B
8 months ago

Can I ask, what did you buy, and your reasons? I ended up with the Trekking Xduro, although I first wanted Urban plus (style and speed), but they had a recall on the forks, and it made me look at the trekking a bit closer, and realised it really is much better suited to my everyday needs:)
I have the Xduro Trekking S 5.0. I needed something for commuting. Getting old and needed something to level out the 12mi and 1000 ft gain. So far it's working out real well. I'm happy I have the S because I spend a lot of time in the 20-25 mph range and it works well. Definitely not a free ride, just not wearing myself out like I used to. It's definitely not a light bike (approx 57lb), which makes it feel real solid. As for the fork, don't really notice it. For maintenance purposes I would have rather had a fixed fork, possibly would have saved some weight too. Not looking forward to flat tire repairs, will probably leave tire on and pull the tube out the side rather than remove the wheel (heavy bike). Lights are good, although they turned out to be cyo premium rather than the Haibike front light. Not a problem as it is as bright as my Luxos I used to use, just not quite the same pattern. And sizing was interesting, I luckily decided on the 52 for my 5'8" frame. The 56 would have been just too big. The Bosch system is taking a little time to get used to, but overall I'm very pleased with how it works. I just find myself picking a cadence then adjusting the setting for the leg resistance I want, mostly tour and sport. The Battery is usually down to one and a half bars (on the 500) after 25mi with hills (cutting an average of 10 minutes off my commute each way). Headwinds no longer matter. Nice.

Jamesfw
8 months ago

Can I ask, what did you buy, and your reasons? I ended up with the Trekking Xduro, although I first wanted Urban plus (style and speed), but they had a recall on the forks, and it made me look at the trekking a bit closer, and realised it really is much better suited to my everyday needs:)

Shaggy
9 months ago

http://www.haibike.com/en/INT/service/recall
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"...the fork of Haibike Race, Superrace and Urban models show premature breaking when being exposed to above-standard endurance tests. Therefore, the fork may suffer from rupture or a break. This poses an enormous safety and injury risk for every user. "
The following models have been recalled:

Haibike XDURO Urban (2014 and 2015 models)
Haibike XDURO Urban RC (2016 models)
Haibike XDURO Race (2014 and 2015 models)
Haibike XDURO Superrace (2014 and 2015 models)
Haibike XDURO Race S RX (2016 models)
Haibike XDURO Urban S RX (2016 models)

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FYI and all that...

chgofirefighter
9 months ago

We have installed front suspension forks from Stromer with no issues. There are also stem related suspension options that may help. I wrote the review for the Sta-Fast and it was satisfactory for my purposes.

The issue is the ST2 is a heavy bike, yeah its nice, rides superb etc. But it's just too heavy, by adding a front suspension you are adding additional weight, etc. I tested out a few Haibikes today, loved the XDURO Urban SRX, awesome bike~ lightweight, nimble, easy to load, carry, pick up, etc. Also tested the EXDURO Full seven pro, with all around suspension. I felt like I was riding on a cloud, the only thing the bike needs is urban type tires and this bike will be ready to rock. The Urban SRX is nice but it's a rigid frame with a bodyfloat suspension, ergo grips, and maybe a handlebar type suspension this bike would be ideal city urban commuter with lots of power, speed and its very agile too. Look don't get me wrong I love my ST2, but picking up the bike everyday to go up through 2 flights of stairs gets old. They should design this bike with a suspesion, maybe lighten up the bike, make it 30lbs, maybe 35 or 38 but a 60lbs bike plus added components well the bike becomes cumbersome. Asked my girl, she can't even pick up the ST2. But she has an urban bike thats not an electric bike that weighs like 4lbs, lol~

b b
2 months ago

Is this bike for commuting?

b b
2 months ago

ElectricBikeReview.com awesome thanks for responding! I'll take it into consideration.

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 months ago

Maybe, I see it as more of a road bike platform, a lightweight sporty bike that would be most comfortable and enjoyable on smooth tarmac vs. a lot of commuter focused products that have racks and fenders (or at least mountain points so you can add your own), the tires on this bike are a bit narrow and stiff for cracks and bumpy pavement sections that you might run into when commuting

Kenneth Skou
3 months ago

Have you done any comparison on the Haibike Bosch/Yamaha motors?

sunsande
3 months ago

What brand/model is your helmet :) ?

Kalle Blomqvist
8 months ago

Bought a used one (20 months old) for 1765 USD and really, really love it! It's like a "sporty BMW" type of electric bike. I live 80 meters above sea level and riding uphills is nearly impossible for me since I've had a minor heart problem for the last two years. This bike fixes that problem! Furthermore I can get anywhere within 10 kilometers in less than half an hour, with an average speed of 25 kilometers per hour. Fantastic :-)

TheMonkFilm
8 months ago

"The kind of bike you wouldn't lock up at a rack" Yeah I mean it's probably fine for my $4000 bike to get stolen. I can just buy a new one xD

A H
9 months ago

I have ordered the 2017 model arriving in May the xDuro Urban 4.0 I can't wait!!!

Chris Stratton
2 years ago

I can't believe you did all that in one take. Really impressive camera presence. Well done -- you make it look easy.

Declan O'Kane
2 years ago

i would love one

Nichen
3 years ago

You can finally buy Haibikes in Sweden now and this was very nicely priced compared to Focus or Bosch. I might buy a Haibike. I wonder if I shall have the Yamaha or the Bosch motor...anyway great review and beautiful bike!

Nichen
3 years ago

lol I meant Scott...not Bosch as a bicycle brand :)

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

+Nichen Thanks, I'm excited to eventually see and test the Yamaha drive system. It's cool that you can have multiple front rings with that system vs. the single ring with the Bosch Centerdrive that's used on Haibikes.

Joe G.P.
3 years ago

looks really sexy and really uncomfortable, also $4500 ??? i can get a really decent SH car for that.

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

+Joe G.P. Wow... that sounds a big rough, at least you have free YouTube :D I dated a girl from Ukraine once, I always wanted to visit that country.

Joe G.P.
3 years ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com  Eastern Europe, where minimum wage is the equivalent to ~$250 a month and we have 24% tax on everything

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

+Joe G.P. Got it... Yeah, the most affordable Bosch powered ebikes here in the US start at $4,000. Which part of the world are you from? I've heard good things about Dillenger.

Joe G.P.
3 years ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com
 yeah but the Bosch is a lot more expensive, no ? and no, it was the Dillenger kits, from the looks of it the 8Fun kit seems to not include the battery, at least on the link you sent, in other places it's $500 more expensive so i guess those have a battery included.
But they gotta start selling them in my country before i even think of getting one.

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

+Joe G.P. Oh yeah, like the 8Fun BBS02 Kit? Looks pretty good and performs well but doesn't have shift detection or the same high speed response as Bosch: http://electricridereview.com/8fun/bbs02/

Ehab Hassan Mohamed
3 years ago

Haibike Really Is the Most Beautiful Electric Bike In My Opinion Very High Quality And Modern Look , Thank You Nice Review

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

Sure thing, yeah these bikes not only have great drives, solid components and a quality build but they also bring a unique design feature... Like the lower seat stays in the back. I'm told this was done to improve ride comfort (like the rear end can flex more easily) but it also just looks cool and provides room for the LED light :)

nick owens
3 years ago

Like you said, "beautiful frame".  

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

Oh yeah, this one's a beauty... I know it's just an appearance but that actually makes me feel cooler about certain bikes and want to take more care of them. It's like art, why not have it look beautiful and be functional :)

gerald jorgenson
3 years ago

Any news on the bafang upgrades for 2015? Thanks

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

I'll keep an eye out, haven't seen any of the new kits. Was there a particular model or bike you were interested in?

gerald jorgenson
3 years ago

Nice frame looks tough,another good review

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

Thanks, I like the look of this as well. Blends in and just seems rugged. If they could offer this at $4,500 and provide the speed-pedelec drive... that would be awesome :D