Magnum Metro+ Review

Magnum Metro Plus Electric Bike Review
Magnum Metro Plus
Magnum Metro Plus 500 Watt Planetary Geared Ebike Hub Motor
Magnum Metro Plus 48 Volt 13 Amp Hour Battery
Magnum Metro Plus Ergonomic Grips Das Kit Display Panel
Magnum Metro Plus Sr Suntour Nex Spring Suspension Fork
Magnum Metro Plus Tektro Auriga Hydraulic Disc Brakes 180 Mm
Magnum Metro Plus Custom Aluminum Rear Rack With Bungee Straps
Magnum Metro Plus 8 Speed Shimano Acera
Magnum Metro Plus External 18 Amp Motor Controller And Kickstand
Magnum Metro Plus 2 Amp Ebike Charger
Magnum Metro Plus Electric Bike Review
Magnum Metro Plus
Magnum Metro Plus 500 Watt Planetary Geared Ebike Hub Motor
Magnum Metro Plus 48 Volt 13 Amp Hour Battery
Magnum Metro Plus Ergonomic Grips Das Kit Display Panel
Magnum Metro Plus Sr Suntour Nex Spring Suspension Fork
Magnum Metro Plus Tektro Auriga Hydraulic Disc Brakes 180 Mm
Magnum Metro Plus Custom Aluminum Rear Rack With Bungee Straps
Magnum Metro Plus 8 Speed Shimano Acera
Magnum Metro Plus External 18 Amp Motor Controller And Kickstand
Magnum Metro Plus 2 Amp Ebike Charger

Summary

  • A sturdy high-step commuter style electric bike offering up to 28 mph pedal assist and 20 mph throttle on demand, uses the same 500 watt motor and 48 volt battery as Magnum's Peak mountain bike
  • Mid-level eight speed drivetrain with Shimano Acera derailleur, metal guard protects the derailleur and motor cable in the back and an alloy chainring protector keeps your pants clean along with sturdy alloy fenders
  • An integrated headlight and stand-alone rear light keep you visible but have to be activated independently, large reflective tires from Schwalbe are e-bike specific, providing increased air volume for comfort and a puncture protection layer
  • Tool-free adjustable angle stem, ergonomic grips, basic spring suspension fork and suspension seat post make the ride more comfortable, large hydraulic disc brakes with adjustable levers are powerful and easy to use which is important given the heavier 59 lb curb weight

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Introduction

Make:

Magnum

Model:

Metro+

Price:

$1,999

Body Position:

Upright

Suggested Use:

Urban, Commuting

Electric Bike Class:

Throttle on Demand (Class 2), Speed Pedalec (Class 3)
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Warranty:

1 Year Comprehensive

Availability:

United States, Canada, New Zealand, Israel

Model Year:

20172018

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

59.2 lbs (26.85 kg)

Battery Weight:

9.2 lbs (4.17 kg)

Motor Weight:

10.1 lbs (4.58 kg)

Frame Material:

6061 Aluminum Alloy

Frame Sizes:

19 in (48.26 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

19" Seat Tube, 22.75" Reach, 29" Stand Over Height, 24.25" Width, 73" Length

Frame Types:

High-Step

Frame Colors:

Satin Black with Blue Accents, Satin White with Blue Accents

Frame Fork Details:

SR Suntour NEX Spring Suspension, 63 mm Travel, Preload Adjust (Under the Plastic Caps), 100 mm Hub Length, 9 mm Skewer with Quick Release

Frame Rear Details:

142 mm Hub Length, 11 mm Axle with Nuts

Attachment Points:

Rear Rack Bosses, Fender Bosses

Gearing Details:

8 Speed 1x8 Shimano Acera Derailleur, 11-32T Cassette

Shifter Details:

Shimano Triggers on Right

Cranks:

Prowheel Ounce, Forged Alloy, 170 mm Length, Square Taper Bottom Bracket, 48 Tooth Chainring with Alloy Guard

Pedals:

Wellgo Aluminum Alloy Platform, Black

Headset:

Neco Tapered 1-1/8" to 1-1/2" Threadless Internal Cups

Stem:

Promax Tool-Free Adjustable Angle, 100 mm Length, 25.4 Clamp Diameter

Handlebar:

Low-Rise, Aluminum Alloy, 610 mm Length

Brake Details:

Tektro Auriga Hydraulic Disc with 180 mm Rotors, Dual-Piston Calipers, Three-Finger Levers with Motor Inhibitors

Grips:

Imitation Leather, Ergonomic, Stitched

Saddle:

Selle Royal Royalgel, Imitation Leather

Seat Post:

Promax Suspension (40 mm Travel), Aluminum Alloy

Seat Post Length:

340 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

27.2 mm

Rims:

Aluminum Alloy, Double Walled, 36 Hole

Spokes:

Stainless Steel, 13 Gauge, Silver with Adjustable Nipples

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Marathon, 700 x 38c, (28" x 1.5"), (40-622)

Wheel Sizes:

28 in (71.12cm)

Tire Details:

50 to 85 PSI, 3.5 to 6.0 BAR, E-Bike Ready 50, Reflective Sidewall Stripes, Performance Line GreenGuard

Tube Details:

Schrader Valve

Accessories:

Flick Bell, Custom Rear Rack with Pannier Blockers and Triple Bungee (25 kg 55 lb Max Weight), Black Aluminum Alloy Fenders with Mud Flaps, Integrated Spanninga Kendo+ Headlight, Independent Spanninga Solo Back Light (2 AAA Batteries), Sticker Slap Guard, Center-Mount Single Side Adjustable Length Kickstand, Steel Derailleur Guard

Other:

Locking Removable Downtube Mounted Battery Pack, 9 Mosfet 18 Amp Current Controller, 1.5 lb 2 Amp Charger, Sine Wave Controller

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Das-Kit

Motor Type:

Rear-Mounted Geared Hub
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Motor Nominal Output:

500 watts

Motor Peak Output:

700 watts

Motor Torque:

90 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Samsung, DLG, Panasonic

Battery Voltage:

48 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

13 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

624 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium Nickel Cobalt Manganese (Li-NCM)

Charge Time:

6.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

30 miles (48 km)

Estimated Max Range:

60 miles (97 km)

Display Type:

Das-Kit C7, Fixed, Backlit, Monochrome LCD

Readouts:

Power Output Indicator (6 Ticks), Assist Level (0-6), Speed, Odometer, Timer, Trip 1, Trip 2, BMS Voltage, Battery Level (6 Bars)

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad (Power, Set, +, -), (Press Power Button for Display Backligt, Hold Minus Button for Walk Mode)

Drive Mode:

Cadence Sensing Pedal Assist, Trigger Throttle

Top Speed:

28 mph (45 kph) (20 MPH Throttle, Adjustable)

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Written Review

The Magnum Metro Plus electric bike is a high powered city commuter, complete with aluminum alloy fenders, LED lights, and a compact rear rack. If you have been the full range of Magnum products, it’s essentially a souped up high-step version of the Magnum Ui5 and comes with 180 mm hydraulic disc brakes vs. mechanical, a 500 watt nominal motor vs. 350 watt, a 48 volt battery vs. 36 volt and a nicer drivetrain (gears, derailleur, and shifter). For a price that’s $300 more here, you get a boost in power and performance but overall range might end up being similar because the zippy motor draws more energy, and it’s also a heavier bike by ~7.5 lbs at ~59 lbs total. If you need the power for climbing, hauling extra weight, or just like the feel of going fast (this is a Class 3 speed pedelec, capable of ~28 mph assisted speeds after all) then this would be the best choice. In some ways, $300 doesn’t seem like that much money to spend beyond the Ui5, but it is almost 18% more (compare the Ui5 priced at $1,699 vs. the Metro Step-Thru and Metro+ models priced at $1,999). It’s fun to compare these e-bikes side by side, but now I’m going to focus in on what the Metro+ offers and how it runs. This is a versatile product that could be used for neighborhood riding, grocery getting, or city commuting. The high-step frame is large and sturdy, only available in one size, but has a sloping top tube to slightly lower stand-over height. Much of the added weight is positioned low and center on the frame vs. towards the back like other electric bikes with rack mounted battery packs. the cargo rack here is completely open for a trunk bag or panniers and even comes with a triple-bungee strap! One consideration however, is that the rack is closer to the seat post and might position a trunk bag directly below the saddle verses further back and out of the way. You get Aluminum fenders that don’t rattle a whole lot and the rubber mud flaps at the ends provide more coverage without getting bent or scratched as easily. It’s feature rich, but not all of the features and accessories are perfect. The rear light, for example, is not wired in to the battery pack. Both lights must be activated by hand vs. using the display panel and it’s easy to forget to turn them off (you literally have to turn them off, even the front one). However, because they appear to be basic single-LED lights without super bright beams, they probably won’t draw as much power and this gripe doesn’t amount to much more than inconvenience. Another gripe is the kickstand position, which is directly below the bottom bracket where it can collide with the left crank arm if you back the bike up without stowing it first. It’s something that bugs me on a lot of ebikes but again, isn’t much more than an annoyance… and at least this stand offers some adjustability in length. I like the comfort upgrades including a fairly basic suspension fork and seat post suspension, the Selle Royal gel saddle feels nice. The matching ergonomic grips, while hard, are thicker and nicer to hold than some skinny rubber ones if you have larger hands (which I’m assuming because this is the larger of the two Metro models). Saddle height is adjustable and the mid-rise handlebar can be positioned up or out to suit your reach and body position preference (relaxed or aggressive). If you’re on the fence about having to lift your leg way up and over this high-step model or are more average height, the Metro step-thru uses smaller 26″ wheels vs. 28″ here which further lowers the frame but raises the attack angle and might not be as efficient when rolling (though it does weigh about one pound less). In most ways, the two models are very similar and I believe that both come in either black or white and look gorgeous. The black paint hides the motor, battery box, and black wires better but won’t be as visible at night. For me, this product is priced at the point point where you could opt to spend another $500 and get a mid-drive, but many of them do not have trigger throttles or high-speed 28 mph operation. Magnum has done an excellent job outfitting, styling, and pricing this bike in my opinion and they have a growing network of dealers around the US, Israel, New Zealand, and Canada. I appreciate the dealer relationship a lot because it means the bike will be setup and tuned properly, serviced (under the 1 year Magnum warranty), and you can grab some accessories with the money you might save… but for those who live in remote places or simply prefer delivery, they do sell through their official site.

Driving the Metro Plus is a 500 watt nominal, 750 watt peak, internally geared hub motor from Das-Kit. This is a semi-new brand to me verses the 8Fun motor on the Ui5. It’s the same company that makes the display panel, which works very well here, and in practice I felt the motor performed well too. It produces a familiar electronic whir at high levels of power but the control unit on the bike puts out up to 18 amps using a pure sine wave vs. square signal which means it’s smoother and zippier. This is what I was told at least, along with a peak torque rating of 90 Newton meters which feels misleading compared to most other hub motors that are rated around 40 Nm. It did climb well for me and I was able to start easily from standstill in grass, but I only weigh ~135 lbs. You can definitely stall the hub motor out if you completely stop the bike and try to start on a medium steep incline. Hub motors are at their best when they have a bit of momentum going because they can’t leverage and benefit from your cassette the way mid-motors can… however, they don’t complicate the drivetrain and cause wear the way that many mid-drives do. In practice, I enjoyed the smooth acceleration and general feeling of power and control that this electric bike offered. The trigger throttle (placed on the left side of the handlebar due to a more basic shifter with a window on the right) was useful for accelerating after a stop sign or traffic signal. It all worked as expected but was definitely smoother and more refined than some of the cheaper products out there. I love that the throttle can be pressed very gently for slower speeds too, and that it overrides assist and is basically always active. On that note, be careful when mounting and dismounting the bike, always turn it off so you don’t bump the throttle accidentally. When not using the variable speed throttle, you rely on a high definition cadence sensor that listens for crank arm movement and sends an on/off signal with the allotted power that you choose. There are six levels of assist with a zero level if you don’t want any pedal response, and again, all levels can be overridden with full power by the throttle. It’s my ideal setup as a more advanced rider. For me, it’s nice to have a throttle to get going and then a cadence sensor (or advanced multi-sensor) to stay going vs. torque only because I don’t enjoy pushing hard all of the time. Cadence sensors are more like on/off switches and they send as much or as little power as you select vs. listening to how you are actually pedaling. Before moving on… one thing worth noting is that the rear axle is connected to the bike with nuts vs. the front which uses a quick release skewer. This is because the power cable running to the hub motor goes in through the axle and there’s more force at the rear so the axle is thicker (ll mm vs. 9 mm up front). If for some reason you end up with a flat rear tire, there’s more effort required to get the wheel off and change the tube. Thankfully, the tires on this bike have puncture protection lining, just make sure you keep them inflated between the recommended 50 to 85 PSI so you don’t get a “snake bite” on the inner tube from the rim bitting into the rubber when going over bumps and curbs.

Charging the bike is fairly easy, you can fill the battery pack on or off the frame, and it locks onto the downtube with a secure key. I like that the locking core springs automatically to “locked” so you don’t have to guess and will always know it’s protected. Magnum seems to use a similar charger for all of their electric bikes and it puts out 2 Amps which is average… and maybe a little slow considering the capacity of this battery. The pack weighs 9.2 lbs (4.17 kg) all on it’s own and I would highly recommend taking it off of the bike before you try to lift or transport it. Expect upwards of six hours for a full charge if you empty the pack, the first half will fill much faster than the second because the cells will need to balance out. The battery is well protected when mounted to the frame but the charging port is a bit exposed to letting the charger cable snag on the left crank arm. Try to avoid this because if the charger gets tripped over or the crank arm bends the plug port it could damage the battery pack. Towards the top right section of the battery is a 5 Volt USB port which you can use to fill portable electronic devices while riding. It’s positioned mostly out of the way but I would still consider a right angle adapter from Amazon like this if you plan to use it frequently, and then maybe zip tie your wires to stay out of the way while leaving enough slack at the stem for turning (so it doesn’t pull the cable out). That controller, by the way, is exposed at the base of the downtube and I was told that it puts out more Amps and might overheat if contained inside the tubing like most other electric bikes. I think it looks okay, but is slight more exposed to water and bumps. I haven’t heard any complaints from customers in the forums and believe that for a city bike, it’s probably a non-issue (most ebikes do fine in rain and wet conditions as long as you aren’t submerging them and this bike probably isn’t going to encounter the rough conditions of mountain bike trails).

Once the battery has been filled and you’re ready for some electric riding, just hold the power button on the little control pad near the left grip. It activates the display and you get several readouts including assist level, current speed, and battery capacity. Pressing power one time will activate backlighting on the LCD display and holding the down arrow constantly will activate walk mode (which can be handy if you need to to ascend a ramp, make your way through a walk-only space, or even climb stairs). The display can show different menus if you press the set button, and depending on your preferences for speed or the geography you live in, Magnum dealers can lower the top speed to 20 mph or less by using a password. I like the size and position of the display, you can even angle it forward and back to reduce reflection glare, but it is not removable. For those who plan on commuting, it might be worth strapping your helmet over the display to keep people from noticing or scratching it, and also protecting it from the sun, while parked at racks. And now back to the gripes about the lights not being activated by the display. Every time you want to use them, you basically have to get off of the bike and press a rubber button to get them on. This isn’t super fun, the headlight can be bumped out of position easily, may bounce up and down as you ride because it’s mounted to the arch vs. suspended above the fork, and the backlight has to have its triple-A batteries replaced every once in a while as they will eventually run down vs. being rechargeable like the main battery. Overall, I would still call this display panel and accompanying button pad above average, I love that it can be angled to reduce glare and feel that it looks beautiful and is well sealed against water… but to clean the bike it is recommended to use a damp cloth vs. spraying it. Don’t ever submerge the bike components or spray them hard. Also, consider storing the battery pack away from extreme heat and cold to protect the cells.

In my view Magnum offers a lot of value with this product and the price is very reasonable for the hardware and service on offer, you get a slap guard to protect the nice paint from the chain, a larger tapered head tube for strength (and they tend to allow for nicer forks to be swapped in if you ever wanted to upgrade), and those hydraulic disc brakes with adjustable reach levers are very nice. That’s a big deal for hand fatigue and for stopping a heavier, faster electric bike. Even though the suspension fork doesn’t lock out, there is some preload adjust if you take the plastic caps off and click both of the adjusters evenly. I picture heavier riders on this bike and would love a lockout to prevent dive when stopping and bob when pedaling, so the suspension fork wold be nicer if it had lockout. I love the Wellgo platform pedals used here because they are larger and sturdier feeling than many cage style pedals and plastic pedals, but I do wish that in addition to the chainring protector, there was a second plate on the inside of the chainring to create a guide which would reduce chain drops. I did not have an issue with chain drops on this review but the chain was off before I hopped on the bike and I’m not sure why, maybe it bounced off during transport? I have dropped chains before, especially on bumpy terrain and when riding faster. It can be annoying and dirty to correct, but it’s just part of the cycling experience sometimes. At least the Alloy chainring protector that you do get, will keep your pant or dress clear of the greasy chain. It’s nice to have help setting the bike up and then tuning it as the shifter cables stretch over time, and this is where the dealer network comes in. The 8-Speed Shimano Acera drivetrain is solid (several steps up from entry level) and I appreciate the more refined trigger shifters here vs. a large oversized thumb shifter on the Ui5 and other cheaper products. For commuting purposes, I would get a trunk bag and maybe some panniers to carry my work supplies, note that both wheels are spoked with thicker 13 gauge spokes and have 36 holes vs. 32 on the rims for added strength. Another interesting feature is that if you press the plus or minus buttons on the display continuously, they cycle all the way around, so you can go from zero to six in just one click. It was neat to see a couple of different models back to back for this review, especially since they share similar drive systems. I’d like to thank Magnum for partnering with me on this post and hanging out for the shoot. Cory helped explain how the suspension could be adjusted, which was new to me. As always, I welcome your feedback and comments, you can also connect directly with other owners and potential customers in the Magnum electric bike forums here.

Pros:

  • The hub motor used on the Metro+ is the same one that Magnum chose for its Peak electric mountain bikes! It offers a lot of torque and zip for climbing that makes this urban ebike feel more powerful than many others in the space
  • Great overall aesthetic, the black frame blends perfectly with the black motor, battery box, fork, stem, handlebar, cranks, pedals etc. and allows the cables and wires to disappear a bit, I like the matching faux leather grips and saddle too
  • Comfort is an important consideration when riding electric bikes because they tend to take you further and keep you at higher overall speeds, so I love that the Metro+ has a suspension fork, suspension seat post, tool-free adjustable angle stem, gel saddle, and ergonomic grips!
  • The drivetrain on this electric bike is well protected, notice the aluminum alloy bash guard on the chainring (which will help keep your pants clean and snag-free) and the derailleur guard at the back (which protects the derailleur and motor power cable), I feel that a full chain guide would have prevented chain drops… but overall this is pretty good
  • Safety is a very important issue to me, especially on a black bicycle that is designed for urban use, so I love that you get a headlight and back light as well as reflective tires and a bell with the Metro+
  • The battery pack and front wheel are easy to take off, which could help reduce weight for transport and make maintenance easier, unfortunately the display panel is not removable and could take more weather wear and scratching at the bike rack
  • Long aluminum alloy fenders with mud flaps will keep you relatively dry and clean, I appreciate the larger alloy pedals here which will reduce slipping and allow for better contact and power transfer
  • Two drive modes to work with here, you can pedal along with cadence sensing pedal assist that doesn’t require force to activate or take a rest and use the trigger throttle which overrides any level of assist for instant power, it’s a good setup for people who need help starting or want to focus on balance and ride around more like a scooter
  • This frame is bit taller, longer, and stiffer than the regular Magnum Metro which offers a step-thru geometry, it’s nice that the high-step Metro+ still offers an angled top tube to reduce stand-over height, the high-step diamond design is going to be more rigid (reducing frame flex with a fully loaded rack)
  • Wider range of gears with an 8-speed cassette and upgraded Shimano Acera derailleur, it’s going to provide more comfortable pedaling options than a 7-speed and hold up better between tuneups
  • I feel that the pricepoint on this electric bicycle is very good considering the powerful motor, high capacity 48 volt battery and large 180 mm hydraulic disc brakes with adjustable-reach levers and motor inhibitors
  • The cadence sensor on this e-bike is very compact and well protected, it seems more sealed than the older discs with visible magnetic dots and might hold up better in dusty, wet, or muddy conditions
  • This bike can be setup as a Class 3 speed pedelec with maximum assisted speeds of close to 28 miles per hour! That’s a nice option for people who commute and want to save time, the throttle always tops out around 20 mph and I believe that pedal assist can also be lowered to 20 mph if you want
  • The 700c (28-inch) wheel size is more efficient, provides rolling momentum and a lower attack angle, and allows for increased air volume, the Schwalbe Marathon tires are e-bike specific and provide better puncture protection than generic tires
  • The battery has a standard USB Type A port near the top right corner which can power your phone or other portable electronics on or off the bike, if you use this while riding, be careful with any wires that are plugged in so they don’t get caught and bent, consider a right angle USB adapter like this

Cons:

  • The kickstand they chose works well enough, and offers adjustable length, but is positioned at the bottom bracket vs. further back on the left chain stay, this can result in the left crank arm colliding if you back the bike up and just annoying, a rear mounted kickstand would have also offered more support for a loaded rack
  • This isn’t a huge complaint, but I noticed the motor controller isn’t built into the frame or battery as seamlessly here as it is on most other electric bikes, Magnum told me that this helps it stay cool and the metal casing did seem tough, at least it’s protected by the front fender and you get a pure sine wave conversion for smoother and quieter motor operation
  • I love that the bike comes with lights, but only the headlight is integrated (running off of the rechargeable bike battery), the rear light requires two AAA batteries and is easier to forget – which could leave you dark from behind or wear the battery down if you forget to turn it off, the headlight is also positioned on the bridge of the suspension fork which travels up and down and could cause it to bounce around and create a less consistent beam in some situations
  • I mostly like the rear rack design, which has pannier blockers, uses standard gauge tubing that will work with most clip-on bags, and comes with the triple-bungee strap, but it does sit nearly directly below the saddle which could get in the way of a trunk bag… some alternative racks are positioned further back to make space for the saddle
  • It appears that there was not enough room to squeeze in bottle cage bosses on this electric bike, that means you will need to wear a hydration pack, get a cup holder handlebar mount, or use a trunk bag with a bottle holster
  • Minor gripe, the rubber cap that covers the charge port on the lower left side of the battery pack can sometimes be difficult to seat, this port is also very close to the left crank arm and your wire or the connector could get snagged and bent if you are charging the battery when mounted to the bike and accidentally bump the pedals… it’s sort of like the kickstand issue, it’s just a little bit more vulnerable here

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P E
5 months ago

Hi Court, I have this bike and I have maxed out the settings to achieve the highest speed while pedaling. The best I could do was 24 mph. Then again, I weigh 226 lbs, and that could be a factor. So I am curious which speed you were able to achieve with this bike? Real-world speed do not always match the advertised speed.

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court
5 months ago

Hmm, that’s great feedback P E. I’m sorry that you haven’t been able to hit roughly 28 mph with the bike. Maybe it does have to do with weight or wind resistance if you’re a bigger person. I am relatively small and weigh ~135 lbs but I believe the companies test and rate bikes with a ~170 lb rider on perfectly flat paved streets with no wind. Have you asked Magnum? I believe I was able to get up to 27ish during tests with this and other models from them that use the same motor and battery pack. Thanks for your input! Maybe others will chime in too or you could engage more in the Magnum ebike forums.

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E D
5 months ago

Hey Court, how would you compare this to the Crosscurrent S? Would you recommend one over the other?

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court
5 months ago

Howdy E D, I would choose the Magnum Metro+ over the Crosscurrent S if I had a dealer nearby. For me, that’s a big plus because they can set it up and perform maintenance and warranty service ongoing vs. having to do it yourself. I like Juiced Bikes, and the Crosscurrent S is sporty and cool, but the suspension seat post here and the adjustable stem and grips also appeal to my sensitive back and neck. I like that this model can go fast, but can also just be comfortable and mellow. It’s one of my favorite value-priced models :)

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Conrad
2 months ago

I am also not able to get anywhere near 28 mph with this bike. 25 or 26, downhill, balls out, is about the best I can do. What is the issue? I rode a Haibike Sduro 5.0 or something like that with only a 350 watt mid-motor and easily hit 27+ with half the effort. I’m 6’4″, 235lbs and have quite a bit of power in my legs. Power starts to drop off dramatically at 22mph.

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court
2 months ago

Hmm, perhaps it’s the difference between a hub motor vs. mid-drive. The mid-motors can gain a better mechanical advantage when you shift gears and often produce higher torque. I have found that the watt ratings on motors can be misleading (and even some torque ratings now for hub motors). I try to present information here in an objective way, but I suspect that some manufacturers embellish or simply mislead with their specs, measuring them in different ways to gain an advantage. For example, I just test rode a Stromer ST5 today, which produces 48 Newton meters of torque, and it was the most powerful hub motor I have ever ridden that is rated in the 700 to 750 watt nominal range. Now, this 48 Nm rating is much lower than some hubs now stating 60 or even 90 Nm, but I cannot say how they are measuring that. It’s a frustrating situation, I welcome comments like yours and feel that the best way to judge a bike is to get out on a test ride if and whenever possible :/ thanks for your feedback Conrad, hopefully it helps others who are looking at similar products.

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Conrad
2 months ago

I’ve had the magnum metro plus for over a week now and did some experimenting. I don’t think it’s a lack of oomph in the motor, they just drop off the assistance so fast. At 25.5 mph I get only 2 of 6 bars of boost. I had to do downhill with the wind to get to this speed. At 24 it’s giving me around 3 bars of boost. 24 is about top speed on the flats. On this bike, that is not nearly enough. There’s no way my legs can provide enough power to go to 28 with the bars of boost dropping to 0 around 26 mph. I’ve tried every combo of setting in the secret settings screen there is. The Haibike’s have a more reasonable level of boost at those speeds (at least for a 50 year old with questionable knees. :)

This is almost a 60 pound bike where you sit upright. Without a lot of boost, it ain’t going any faster. I then tested speed on that same gentle downhill (From this point on Stonehaven Road, Sun Prairie, WI.) with my mid 90’s GT Force aluminum road bike. Hit 34mph. If Magnum could just put a slight tweak in their Das-Kit controller, that would be great. It needs 2-3 times the power at 26 and 27 mph, then dropping quickly as you eclipse 27 to stay legal. Not to say this isn’t a great bike otherwise. Built like a tank, smooth, feature rich, great range, awesome price.

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Mark Peralta
1 day ago

Comfortable riding position is utmost importance to me so I thought the Magnum Metro+ provides good fit for me in a way that I don't have to modify anything since it has adjustable stem. However, after riding it for several miles I found out that it cannot provide the same comfortable riding position that I am used to from my other bikes.

The handle bar reach is too far for me. If I adjust it to be nearer, the height becomes too tall already and I cannot put my weight on it since my elbow is already at an angle.

I ended up replacing the adjustable stem and handle bar, added an instrument bar for cadence meter, relocated the throttle to the right where I'm used to and also changed to C-9 spring mounted saddle for additional vertical travel. Now I am satisfied with the comfortable and familiar bike fit.

Figs
4 days ago

Emailed twice, called, no response. Called my CC company and cut the money off. Looking now at getting a Magnum Ui6 from LBS. I figure if I can’t reach them now, I won’t be able to reach them later if I have a problem.

Too bad, I liked the Elegant.

Citycrosser
6 days ago

I've ridden just over 1000 miles in 4 months or so with my Metro+. No issues yet! Can't comment on the extra seat or pull behind trailer. The brakes on the Metro+ are outstanding (as I'm guessing all disc brakes are), so stopping shouldn't be an issue. I liked having a local bike shop that sells the Magnums for support, test rides, and parts if needed. This helped sway my decision over a Juiced.

Chris Hammond
6 days ago

So I can offer you a bit of perspective. My commute is 30 miles each way. I historically did this on my road bike, but fighting headwinds on the way home alot had me taking the train far more than I wanted. I began researching ebikes late last year, I quickly zeroed in on the Juiced CrossCurrent S as being a great value for high speed, long distance commuting. I continued researching for a good while, and flip flopped between the idea of building a bike, or buying a pre-built. I obviously finally settled on the CCS with the 52V/ 21Ah battery option. I received my bike May 9th, and have put over 1000 miles on it since.

Here are some things I would place priority on in your search:
1) Battery, battery, battery!
Any bike with a 500 Wh battery or less should be crossed off your list. On my commute I average ~ 500 Wh each way; high use days fighting headwinds have had my use over 600Wh. I only charge my battery to 80% to promote longevity of the pack, and have yet to drop it below 30%. Any ebike will experience a drop in performance as the voltage in the pack drops. I can notice this as well, but its not dramatic as my pack voltage remains relatively high. Dropping batteries below 20% negatively affects longevity as well.
Plan on a minimum of 20 Wh / mile, more if you want to be travelling over 30 mph. Higher speeds require exponentially more power due to the poor aerodynamics of the riding position.
2) Bikes designed as class 3, high speed commuters should be your focus. These bikes tend to have a more forward seating position improving aerodynamics some; they also tend to have better brakes; and tires that are bigger to absorb high speed bumps, etc.
3) Mid-drives are less advantageous as high speed commuters. The basic physics of the design dictate that the motor cannot apply full motor torque to the rear wheel when you are using the higher gears in your cassette (smaller cogs). The Bosch Performance Speed motor is the best mid-drive in this regard as it uses an internal gearing to allow for a small front charinring.
Hub drives do not experience this loss in torque at high speeds and are in fact at their most efficient when operating at high motor speeds. Many individual builders actually use direct drive hubs for their high speed builds, as it is where they become their best. However, a geared hub motor with a high speed winding is a great option in this regard as well.
4) Go test ride several bikes if you can. The Trek SuperCommuter 8S is a great bike that I really enjoyed riding. If it had a bigger battery and lower price, I'd have been happy to own it. You will find out quickly, just because a bike says Class 3, doesn't mean you can maintain or even attain 28 mph on level ground. The Magnum Metro+ is a great example. On paper it looks very similar to my Juiced CCS. The ride performance is like a family sedan versus a Corvette.

Good luck in your search.

mstotes
7 days ago

Curious if anyone has a Magnum Metro and if there is any difficulty hauling kids? We would probably get a combo of a Yepp seat for our 1 year old and/or a Burley or soon a pull behind trailer bike for our 3 year old.

*If anyone has had issues or long term success with Magnum, feel free to chime in--we haven't purchased yet but seems like it will be our choice over a RadPower or Juiced*

Thanks!

jhoblo
1 week ago

What is your wife's folder that has a full suspension? I agree that 20" wheels and potholes/dirt roads are tough, but seatpost suspensions can impact how they fold, depending on the bike.
I've never ridden a Brommie, but now that REI sells them I considered one- no choice in colors- red is fugly :( Too bad that they don't have any demos in store that I can test ride. There is no comparison to the tidy Brompton fold.

harryS
1 week ago

For good looks, it would be the Motiv Stash for me, but taking the battery out for storage might put some extra wear on the connectors and wires. It's also a smaller battery at 9AH. Magnum is 13 AH and Blix is 11 AH? If all three of these makers goes away, it might be easier to find the rear batteries from a third party seller.

I would expect over 30 miles at 14 mph and pedal assist out of the Motiv, based on what our folders will use at that same speed. My wife was at 32 miles recently with a 36V 9AH battery and probably had another 4 miles range. She would love a step-thru bike.

At our speeds, the rim brakes on the Blix would be fine, and I think that good rim brakes feel better than most mechanical disks.

Being able to test ride and test fold the bike woud be very nice. I would suppose some of thes ebikes don't fold or carry so well.

Citycrosser
1 week ago

2017 Magnum Metro+, 500 Watt Das-Kit, rolling terrain, rail to trail path, PAS 4, 190 lbs + 10 lbs of stuff, 40 miles using the 80/20 (and I'm pedaling along fairly hard with an average HR of 140 or so (same as 9:30 pace running if that helps).

My commute is 36 miles and I'm normally starting with an 80% battery charge and ending at about 25%, and generally use PAS 4 for a top speed of about 20. I'm guessing it will make it at least 4 more before dropping below 20%. I have a giant 1.5 mile long climb on the way home right before my house so I'm always a little conservative to leave plenty to get up that hill.

With PAS 5: 35 miles (using the 80/20 rule)

PAS 6: 30 miles tops but I haven't tried it.

48 volt battery, 13.5 a-h

I'd love to try it on PAS 6 but would need a 2nd battery or a larger battery to make it to work.

michael mitchell
1 week ago

I have a vika+ with about 1600 miles. I've ridden it on rough roads and bike paths in Seattle, through heavy rain many times. I highly recommend it. The thing climbs like a beast. Speeds on the flats usually max out at about 19.5mph, but the high torque gets you to that speed quickly. It will be a more upright position than a road or mountain bike (I'm 6'0" with a 34/35 inseam), and you should look at getting a good suspension seatpost like a thudbuster LT or bodyfloat/kintekt. The walk-up may be tough for any ebike that weighs approx. 50lbs, but I guess a good thumb throttle would help.

Depending on your budget, you may also want to look at getting a brompton and adding a grin tech kit.

jhoblo
1 week ago

Which Tern did you ride? A couple have Bosch motors, but I think that one still uses the 350W Bafang. I’ve thought about adding a BBSHD on a Link D8.
You know, folding bikes with small wheels without motors are sluggish. It’s a compromise between how portable you need your transportation to be and comfort. I seriously thought about doing a Grin conversion on a Brommie, but that kit is sold out. I didn’t ask if/when they will get more in. I don’t know that I’d like the ride on 16” wheels, but that fold is sooo nice!

BiscuitHead
2 weeks ago

It'll be a commuting bike that will be stored in my trunk, as I live in a walk-up without an elevator. My commute is ~4 mi each way with ~1.5mi long hill, and I used to do it on my pedal-powered hybrid but now I get too sweaty for the workplace & need another option.

I'm currently deciding between the Magnum Classic (low step), Blix Vika+, and Motiv Stash, and leaning towards the Vika+ or Motiv Stash. I like that the battery is built into the frame on the Stash, but I tend to lean on the grips a bit and for that reason having a throttle on the grip makes me nervous. The Vika+ has a better warranty and cheaper replacement battery ($400 vs. $600 for the Stash/Classic), but I am wary of the high investment in marketing with the brand.

Beyond Court's reviews, does anyone have any experience/opinions about these bikes?

I plan to buy at a local shop, and unfortunately the Vika+ is being sold at a shop that is farther away so it would be more difficult to get it serviced.

Edit: I also test-rode a Tern but honestly the mid-drive system did not impress me -- it felt sluggish even at higher pedal assist levels. I think I like a throttle option too.

vasubandu
2 weeks ago

Thanks so much. Most of these are entirely new to me, and the power information is rally helpful. I don't think I am going to get what I need under $3k, and I would like to keep it below $4k. I am going to have a briefcase with me all the time and perhaps a box of documents from time to time.

ramboia
1 week ago

I have a 22 + mile commute. About 1.5 miles of one of my routes is a hard packed dirt road. Am I pushing my luck with the stock marrathon 700x35 tires.
I would like to use the bike to visit my daughter @ a 17 mile trip and about 9 miles of hard packed dirt.

Has anyone used a wider tire on the Metro+.? If so what size?

Thanks

TML
2 weeks ago

To clarify and help narrow down the results:

The legal max power is 750w for a bike to still be considered a bicycle. If you have that large of a hill and want to maintain a high speed; a mid drive motor is probably your best bet. To maintain high speed on serious hills, hub motors require a lot more power due to the limited gearing.

Batteries degrade over time so to prevent you from having to charge your bike at work while maintaining a high speed, you want to plan on 30wh/mile plus some room for the battery to degrade. If you have a 14 mile commute and desire to use this for multiple years; I'd plan on 18*30 = 540wh minimum. Your wh/m will be less if you're pedaling more but that doesn't appear to be the desire.

Do not believe the estimated range of most bike listings. They are taking a 135-150lb person and testing at 15mph with moderate effort to get those numbers. At 20mph with lazy-medium pedaling you'll use 20ish wh/m, at 28mph (which you probably won't get with any of the bikes above doing lazy pedaling up an extreme hill using pedal assist) you'll use 30+ wh/m. The flats will lower it back down so its safe to plan for at least 30wh/m as an average.

Since your goal is to travel at high speed for as long as possible, I highly recommend whatever bike you get have hydraulic disc brakes. The bigger rotor the better.

Doing an advanced search on this site for 28mph bikes with 540wh packs, there are a ton. This is where you start asking question like:

* Will I be carrying things with me? (If so, a bike with a solid rack should be considered.)
* Do I want to have to avoid every puddle to keep from getting soaked at high speed? (No? Okay needs fenders.)
* What body position do I want to be in? (Personally I prefer a more up right feel so a road bike isn't the answer for me.)
* Is it hard for me to step over a high frame? (If so, a step through or drop frame might be beneficial.)
* Is it important for me to carry the bike? (If so, look at weight.)

At a $2k budget your options are mostly the Magnum Metro, Metro+, Cruiser and the Juiced CrossCurrent S.
At a $3-4k budget you move into the Bulls Lacuba Evo 45 and 45s models as well as the SmartMotion Pacer.
At the $5-6k budget you get the beautifully designed Specialized Turbo Vado, Stromer ST1 X and Kalkhoff Integrale S11.

Once you decide on a budget, I'd recommend looking at some of the list above. If there is a shop nearby with multiple in stock; this would be extremely helpful. Please let us know if this helps and what you end up doing!

Citycrosser
2 weeks ago

Looking back at my Strava records. I averaged 18 mph while riding my old road bike. With my new Magnum Metro+, I'm averaging 23 mph. My average heart rate was about the same (don't have power measurement on either bike). I'd say with a 28 mph speed pedelec, you'll pick up at least 5 mph. With some bikes and a large enough battery, you may be able to average higher.

I have an unusually long commute (35 miles each way) but the majority is on an uninterrupted bike trail so I'm moving at 23 on the flats or so most of the time with a few slow downs at crossings etc. My speed down here easily gets to 28 mph with light pedaling (the Metro+ only has a cadence sensor). I typically use PAS 4 but if the commute was shorter or if I had more battery, I could use PAS 6 which would keep my average up around 27 or so.

Chris Hammond
3 weeks ago

So I did test ride 3 different ebikes during my research. The closest bike from a spec standpoint is the Magnum Metro+. This was the first ebike I tested. Quite honestly, the difference in performance between the CCS and the Metro+ is HUGE. I was able to get the Metro to 28 mph on flat terrain, but that was with unsustainably hard pedal effort (as in HIIT interval type effort). I would still be riding my non-e road bike to work if that was my best option, because the Metro wouldn't accomplish much to speed up my commute. Not to mention at the $2K price point the CCS battery has ~ 30% more capacity. On the CCS, I mostly ride in level 2 assist (mid point or level 3 on a Metro). I can sustain 28 mph fairly easily on flat terrain this way, and I can bump up to level 3 or S when needed climbing hills. (I rarely use S because there just isn't a need, the bike won't really assist faster than ~33 mph regardless). Otherwise, from a strictly riding standpoint the Metro+ and the CCS are quite similar.
I started this thread after testing the Trek Supercommuter 8. That really is a nice bike. It is very smooth and the power delivery is both seemless and strong. It is a bike I would be happy to commute on except for 2 huge factors; 1) it only has a 500 Wh battery, (after 2 weeks of commuting on the CCS my average one way power consumption is ~500 Wh) meaning I would fully deplete a fully charged battery twice per day (on my CCS I am only charging to 80% and rarely drop below 30%, meaning my battery will last many years longer; 2) It costs ~$2K more than the CCS with the 52V battery that has more than twice the battery capacity.

As Asher pointed out the only bike that is likely to provide similar performance is a Stromer ST2-S with the big battery. I will happily acknowledge the Stromer is a very nice bike, with better components, cleaner appearance, etc. But it's triple the price and still has a smaller battery. Clearly Juiced is offering unbelievable value and performance.

Citycrosser
4 weeks ago

I love my Metro+. I use it to commute 35 miles each way to work. I do charge at work as well. I've been charging to 80% and only draining down to 20%. I'm still averaging about 20 mph using PAS 3 or 4. Top speed for me is roughly 25 or 26 mph with light pedaling (6' 3" tall and 190 lbs plus a rear pannier with lunch, clothes, and a laptop). If I charge to 100%, I can make the 25 miles using mostly PAS 5 and averaging about 22 or 23 mph. It's a long commute but so much more enjoyable than driving. I am pedaling along fairly strongly though.

For short trips to the store or library, I blast along at 26 or 27 mph using PAS 6. It will hit 28 but that does require some serious pedaling.

Chris Hammond
1 month ago

The only other bike I tested that compares well is the Trek Supercommuter 8. Ride quality is very similar between the 2. Honestly the seemless feel of the power delivery from the Trek was better than the Juiced, but its a small difference. The difference between the CCS and say the Magnum Metro+ is far more noticeable in this regard.
I would guess that the Trek would perform better in climbing test related to speed, but I doubt it'd be much different, and I wouldn't be surprised if the CCS did better. The top speed is clearly better on the CCS.
Initial setup is pretty easy if you are familiar with the basics of bike maintenance. Aligning the front fender was probably the most difficult thing and even that probably only took 20 minutes from start of install to finish. Other than that, if you can put on a skewered front tire, cut off zip ties, add reflectors and a bell, check the tightness of everything else, then you are good to go. Rear derailleur was already in tune and needed no adjustment, same for the brakes. I tested the bike after that. Worked great.
I spent a fair amount of time after that adding on things; sear mounted waterbottle holder, panniers, cyclo computer, chain catcher, etc.
Total time between assembly, add-ons, and playing on the bike was around 3 hours.

Dan Hutchinson
1 month ago

Love my Metro+. Decided on this over the CCS so I didn’t have to wait. About 6 ft and 175 and get about 55 miles on paved mostly flat roads. Mostly PAS level 1-3 and cruise around 15 mph. Pretty easy to get to 25.

Jo St
2 months ago

NCM Moscow and Fitifito MT27,5 should do the same for much less. ;-)

Chris&Nala
2 months ago

Yeah, have the NCM moscow+ 29" and its the same xD

DASO MILITIA
3 months ago

Started having motor issues with mine at the 200km mark. Lost confidence in it after that as had minor issues with it prior to motor failure. Seems like a decent bike to ride on weekends but did not look like it would last 80km per day commuting as I needed it for. Returned it.

Mark Peralta
4 weeks ago

https://youtu.be/MTk3EUoBz00

sam millr
3 months ago

This is literally one of the ugliest bikes I've ever seen. At any price. I wouldn't pay $50 for it at walmart, sans motor and battery.

Having said that, it's on my short list since it's well specc'ed and the price is pretty darn nice.

Light Up The Truth
5 months ago

Is there anyone that can answer a question about the led display. I can't store it inside, when I have really hot or really cold weather will it hurt the display?

ElectricBikeReview.com
5 months ago

Hi B G, I have heard some people say that they put a helmet or other cover over their LCD when parking outside... just don't seal it completely or water can evaporate inside. Most of these ebike systems are water resistant and should be okay just outside. You might want to ask Magnum for their advice too

howlingwolf125y
5 months ago

A lot to like about this bike.. A very nice more upright riding position. Comfortable ride is so important to me. Even thought it has suspension seat and front fork .. What's with the skinny tires??. I wish they would have put on fatter tires for a even more smoother ride. I would have liked for the bike to simply go a bit faster (Like 33 mph pedal assist and 28 mph throttle on demand) But still a nice 2K price on this bike.. I would be willing to pay a couple of hundred more if they would add the things I mentioned above. Oh, and I am 6'3" 175lbs - so I need a larger version.

ElectricRemi
6 months ago

Man court you post so many good reviews ! Seems like every day I have a new review to watch and I love it ! I jus purchased my first ebike and am awaiting its arrival (being shipped to me) and can’t wait !

Lynn Recker
6 months ago

Nice bike. Good view of the capital but seemed to be quite a bit of fog or maybe smog in the valley (or possibly the resolution of your camera?). The last time I was in the neighborhood of Pavilion Circle you could easily see the Oquirrh Mountains beyond.

trekkeruss
6 months ago

I don't mind a rear light not being wired-in. LED lights draw very little power anyway, so batteries last a long time. Plus, you don't have to worry about the thin and fragile wiring and connections that usually accompany wired-in lights.

F r e e l e e
6 months ago

2 amp charger is better than a 3 amp please read up.

F r e e l e e
6 months ago

Martin schit you should not comment on what you dont understand.

Martin Schmidt
6 months ago

Nope. Its Just slower charging. 4 a should be Standard. :)

Greg McMahon
6 months ago

There is a lot more to it. Ideally the battery and the charging system would be engineered to avoid snark as that will degrade performance worse than sugar.

David Kenefick
6 months ago

Looks like a good value for money ebike. Nice review.