IZIP E3 Peak Review

2016 Izip E3 Peak Electric Bike Review
2016 Izip E3 Peak
2016 Izip E3 Peak 72 Nm Output Mid Drive Motor
2016 Izip E3 Peak 48 Volt Battery Pack Removable
2016 Izip E3 Peak Tranzx Lcd Display Panel
2016 Izip E3 Peak Currie Electro Drive Button Pad
2016 Izip E3 Peak 180 Mm Disc Brake Rotors
2016 Izip E3 Peak 10 Speed Shimano Deore Xt
2016 Izip E3 Peak Suntour Raidon Xc Lo Air Suspension 100 Mm Travel
2016 Izip E3 Peak 2 Amp Battery Charger
2016 Izip E3 Peak Electric Bike Review
2016 Izip E3 Peak
2016 Izip E3 Peak 72 Nm Output Mid Drive Motor
2016 Izip E3 Peak 48 Volt Battery Pack Removable
2016 Izip E3 Peak Tranzx Lcd Display Panel
2016 Izip E3 Peak Currie Electro Drive Button Pad
2016 Izip E3 Peak 180 Mm Disc Brake Rotors
2016 Izip E3 Peak 10 Speed Shimano Deore Xt
2016 Izip E3 Peak Suntour Raidon Xc Lo Air Suspension 100 Mm Travel
2016 Izip E3 Peak 2 Amp Battery Charger

Summary

  • A 650B hardtail trail or mountain ebike with a powerful 73 Nm mid-drive motor, it's one of the quieter motors but less responsive (mostly cadence sensing) and no shift sensing
  • Nice 180 mm hydraulic disc brakes, quick release for both wheels and a 15 mm front and 12 mm rear axle for improved stiffness, 100 mm air fork with rebound and lockout
  • Could make an excellent weekend warrior bike where you ride it on pavement to work during the week then go off-road for fun occasionally because it has bosses for a rear rack and fenders
  • Class 1 limited top speed of 20 mph and no throttle (the most widely accepted class for trail riding), optional boost button to add 20 mph button throttle mode

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Introduction

Make:

IZIP

Model:

E3 Peak

Price:

$2,799

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Urban, Trail, Mountain

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1), Throttle on Demand (Class 2)
Learn more about Ebike classes

Warranty:

2 Year Comprehensive, Lifetime Frame

Availability:

United States

Model Year:

2016

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

49 lbs (22.22 kg)

Battery Weight:

6.1 lbs (2.76 kg)

Motor Weight:

9.5 lbs (4.3 kg)

Frame Types:

High-Step

Frame Sizes:

17 in (43.18 cm)19 in (48.26 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

32" Stand Over Height and 74" Length on the Large 19" Frame

Frame Material:

6061 Aluminum Alloy

Frame Colors:

Gloss Black with Blue and White Accents

Frame Fork Details:

SR Suntour Raidon-XC-LO-R Suspension with 100 mm Travel, Rebound Adjust and Lockout, 15 mm Thru-Axle with Quick Release

Frame Rear Details:

Alloy 142 / 12 mm with Quick Release

Attachment Points:

Rear Rack Bosses, Fender Bosses

Gearing Details:

10 Speed 1x10 Shimano Deore XT, 11-32T

Shifter Details:

Shimano Deore XT Triggers on Right

Cranks:

Lasco EB05, Alloy Guide, 42T

Pedals:

Wellgo Aluminum Alloy Platform, Black

Headset:

Tapered Head Tube, VP Semi-Integrated Ahead

Stem:

Tranz-X 3D forged Alloy 31.8 mm Diameter

Handlebar:

Tranz-X DB Alloy 31.8 mm Diameter, 700 mm x 30 mm, Low Rise

Brake Details:

Shimano M396 Hydraulic Disc with 180 mm Rotors

Grips:

Velo Flat Rubber, Locking

Saddle:

Velo Racing

Seat Post:

Tranz-X Alloy with Quick Release Collar

Seat Post Length:

320 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

31.6 mm

Rims:

Alex Volar 2.3 Doublewall, Aluminum Alloy, Tubless Ready, Brass Nipples

Spokes:

Stainless Steel 13 Gauge, Black

Tire Brand:

Kenda Kapture K1148 Dual-Use, 27.5" x 1.95"

Wheel Sizes:

27.5 in (69.85cm)

Tire Details:

30 TPI, 30 to 80 PSI

Tube Details:

Presta Valve

Accessories:

Aluminum Alloy Chain Guide

Other:

Locking Removable Battery Pack, 2 Amp 1.8 Pound Charger

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Currie Electro-Drive® (TranzX), Model M07

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

350 watts

Motor Peak Output:

400 watts

Motor Torque:

73 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Samsung or LG

Battery Voltage:

48 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

8.7 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

417.6 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

15 miles (24 km)

Estimated Max Range:

35 miles (56 km)

Display Type:

Fixed Monochrome Backlit LCD with Adjustable Angle

Readouts:

Speed, Odometer, Battery Capacity (5 Bars), Assist Level (0-4), Range Estimation

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad on Left

Drive Mode:

Cadence Sensing Pedal Assist (Optional Button Throttle)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

The 2016 IZIP E3 Peak is one of the most powerful mid-drive electric bikes I’ve tested for trail and mountain style riding. The M07 motor by TranzX delivers 73 Newton meters of torque and is surprisingly quiet. With a 27.5″ wheelset the bike feels nimble but also stable and comfortable going over bumps. The air suspension fork is light weight and offers both rebound adjustment and lockout, the latter of which is great for riding efficiently on paved surfaces. This e-bike would work well as an urban commuter (with the occasional curb jumping) or a true trail/mountain platform because the tires are less knobby (but still wide and grippy) and the frame offers mounting points for fenders and a rear rack. It’s a Class 1 pedal assist only bike that is limited to 20 mph making it better suited for trail use and if you’re mostly commuting the slightly less expensive and faster IZIP E3 Dash is probably a better fit. It also has suspension (though less robust) and comes stock with fenders, a rack and integrated LED lights installed.

Compared with the Tekoa iE from Raleigh, the E3 Peak offers sturdy 15 mm and 12 mm thru-axles, the fork has rebound adjust vs. preload, you get the rear rack and fender mount bosses and a kickstand mount. To me it’s a curious mix of robust features (the axles) and more urban-oriented extras but both electric bikes cost the same $2,799. The biggest difference is that the Tekoa iE is a 29er with larger diameter wheels and is offered in one extra size (Extra Large 21″) vs. the 17″ and 19″ only sizes for the E3 Peak. Additionally, the bikes use different headsets, the Peak has low-rise bars vs. flat and has a wider seat tube at 31.6″ which is good to know if you want even more comfort and plan on adding something like the Thudbuster ST.

Not a lot has changed in terms of operation since the 2015 model of the E3 Peak, I think they use the same high power motor and display panel which has automatic backlighting (that you can’t turn off). The display panel swivels to reduce glare but is more permanently fixed and the button pad on the left is still small, rubberized and easy to reach… but now instead of having a twist throttle compromising the right grip, you have the option to purchase a $50 boost button ring with 6 mph and 20 mph buttons that you hold to use throttle mode. This does change the bike class from 1 to 2 meaning it may not be permissible to use on all of the same trails but it’s great for city use and those who may have trouble starting from rest (carrying loads for example). I like the new black and blue color scheme vs. black and yellow in 2015 and prefer the Shimano Deore XT drivetrain which should hold up well despite the lack of shift sensing on the motor. The motor operates mostly based on cadence which makes it feel powerful but doesn’t start or stop as quickly and there are no brake lever motor inhibitors so a couple of times I felt myself trying to slow down with my brakes to shift gears while still pedaling gently (trying to change gears without mashing) only to find the motor activating and foiling my plans. Overall though, it’s a powerful and fun ebike with a solid two year comprehensive warranty and some great extras that make it well-rounded and useful in many situations vs. just off road like the Haibike HardSeven which does not have mounting points for a rack etc. but looks much cooler in my opinion.

Pros:

  • Sturdy 15 mm thru axle on the front wheel for stiffness off-road, also makes lining up the disc brake rotor easier to reduce zinging noises, the rear axle is also enlarged at 12 mm
  • Extremely powerful motor offering 73 Newton meters of torque, I climbed steep off-road terrain in the lowest level of assist without struggling
  • Because the top speed is limited to 20 mph and this is a pedal-assist only, it’s a Class 1 making it permissible on more trails but you can get the $50 boost button add-on if you want throttle mode and that will make it Class 2
  • Solid M395 hydraulic disc brakes from Shimano are easy to pull and provide great stopping power with 180 mm rotors front and rear, the levers don’t have motor inhibitors and since this motor is a bit delayed for stopping and mostly relies on torque sensing there are moments when I wish they did
  • Light weight air fork with rebound adjust and lockout means you can ride the bike more efficiently on flat paved surfaces if you’re commuting or navigate comfortably off-road with 100 mm travel
  • Both axles are upgraded to thicker 12 mm rear and 15 mm front for improved stiffness and better alignment of the disc brake rotors with the calipers and pads if you have to take them on/off to drive to a trail
  • Even though this model only comes in a high-step “diamond” frame design, it has been engineered with a sloping top tube to lower stand over height which makes holding the bike at rest or walking over it easier, I measured ~32 inches on the Large 19″ frame
  • Because the motor is mounted at the center of the frame along with the battery pack, weight is kept lower which improves stability, if you add a disc-brake compatible rear rack you’ll have plenty of room for gear to commute and it will be more solid than a beam rack
  • The center-drive system leverages your chain and 10 speed cassette to operate more efficiently for climbing or reaching higher speeds (though it’s limited to 20 mph to keep this Class 1), it offers better range than a similarly rated hub motor if you manage your gears properly but the high torque output is more limited than some comparable mid mid drives like Bosch
  • Higher-end parts all around including Shimano hydraulic disc brakes with a larger 180 mm rotors for improved stopping power, Shimano Deore XT derailleur for precision shifting and large stiff Wellgo alloy platform pedals for stability and grip
  • If you want even more ways to ride, a boost button can be added for $50 which offers two drive modes: a 6 mph starting speed (almost like walk mode, useful for helping you push the bike uphill) or full speed up to 20 mph acting as a traditional throttle, this will change the bike to to Class 2 rating
  • The motor is very capable at climbing and can easily hit the 20 mph top speed if you’re in the higher couple of gears, it’s also surprisingly quiet… but doesn’t offer the same high RPM as Bosch so your gear matters more

Cons:

  • The display panel and accompanying button pad can be a bit confusing at first, holding the power button icon for a few seconds when you’re in assist level 1 will take you down to zero (so you can use the display without the motor), it would be nicer if you could just arrow down to zero
  • The display unit is not removable so it could take more damage when the bike is parked outside or crammed into your trunk driving to a trailhead, thankfully the battery is
  • No bottle cage bosses on the seat tube here unfortunately but it’s pretty crammed there given the downtube-battery mount and most trail and mountain riders seem to use CamelBak packs for water these days
  • The battery pack must be activated before the display unit can be powered on, it’s a two step process that takes extra time and can create confusion when going straight for the display on/off
  • You get a lot of power with the high-torque motor but it’s not as responsive or dynamic (feels mostly like a cadence sensor in there) and the range is more limited than some of the other ebikes I’ve tested (estimate 15 to 30 miles per charge depending on the assist level you choose), there’s also no shift sensing so if you shift down while climbing at full power the chain, sprockets and derailleur will mash hard and could get damaged over time more easily

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12 months ago

These 3 iZip reviews - the 2016 ProTour, Peak and Dash - have been interesting to view together. Court, it seems the iZip models are in the midst of a technology shift, motor wise. My impressions from your spoken reviews is that the M25GTS motor on the ProTour is a bit quieter, has a bit more torque sensing, and is virtually no less powerful (70 NM vs. 73 NM) than the M07 on this Peak and also the Dash. Are each of those fair conclusions? And given all 3 have 48V 8.7 Ah batteries, is it also reasonable to expect their range differences will be almost exclusively due to differences in weight, speed one attempts the Peak's wider tire patches? (I'm assuming the two different motors will perform comparably re: range. Fair?) Gosh, I wish that ProTour integrated battery frame and smaller/lighter motor was offered on the Peak, as I have doubts the ProTour will be suitable for riding on a variety of hard packed trails. It also seems as tho' the Peak is the only one of the three with a reasonable off-road fork. Ah choices, choices!

Court Rye
12 months ago

Hi Jack! You listened very well, that's exactly how I feel but was unable to fully test the torque and power of the M25GTS because it isn't installed on a true trail/mountain ebike. All of my riding was done on road but it did perform very well and just seemed like a refined version of the M07. If you're doing trail riding the Peak would be a better choice due to nicer suspension and tires... but if you want to replace those and remove the rack, fenders and lights the ProTour could probably manage it. The Peak is really well done for 2016, it's a bit improvement for me from 2015 and the boost button that's available and interchangeable (just like batteries) brings it to the next level of versatility for me. I really learned to appreciate the M07 a lot more with this year's reviews, it was as good if not better than Yamaha for climbing and was easier to use for me.

Steve Sevieria
10 months ago

Court, doesn't the Peak go to 28 miles per hour with pedal-assist? My confusion is because your review and the Izip website both show 20 miles per hour maximum assist. But when I called Currie and also in the interview you did at Interbike 2015 with the Izip rep, it was stated to be 28 miles per hour with pedal assist. Also, the person I spoke to on the phone at Currie said they were working on updating the website to 28 miles per hour for the Peak AND the peak DS.

I figured you would push the hardtail Peak up to its top end while riding it for your review, so I'm concerned that the pedal-assisted top speed really is only 20 miles per hour. Do you have a definitive number? Thanks for everything you do for the electric bike community!

Court Rye
10 months ago

Hi Steve! Sorry for the delayed response here... I've been traveling. Wish I could be more clear on this but I thought it was limited to 20 mph to keep it Class 1 for 2016. This is a big change since 2015 when the bike did go ~28 mph in pedal assist. Based on the conversations I had and my experience riding the bikes during this recent visit to their headquarters I'd bet on 20 mph... but then again, sometimes these companies change things half way through the year. I'd love to hear about your hands on experience if you move forward with this ebike but unfortunately you do risk the time and effort of a return if they are misquoting. These companies often have a lot going on and it's easy for the support guys/girls or web guys/girls to get stuff wrong. This is why I go and test and I'm fairly confident it's just 20 mph specifically so it can be a Class 1 and allowed on more trails in California and beyond. Some of the other models that are on-road can and do go to ~28 mph including the E3 Dash and ProTour.

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J.R.
17 hours ago

Hi All,

We now have at home 2 e-motion, one NEO Cross and one Evo Eco.
as the two chargers are using the same standard plug + an adaptor for each battery, I was wondering if I could charge my neo battery with my evo charger (as the neo one is noisy with its fan).
The underlying question is, will it charge quicker as it is a 48V? (my 2 batteries are 36V)

thanks a lot
I own a 2015 Evo 29er and my battery is 36 volt, 11.6 amp hour. I have the newer charger and it charges at 42 volt, 2 amp.

Charger:

Battery:

As you can see by the label on my battery, it charges at 42 volts and hot off the charger the battery reads about ~41.xx volts.

If both of your batteries are 36 volt, it shouldn't matter which charger you use. 36 volts is the nominal voltage, not peak. Check your labels on the batteries. I've never seen any battery charger rated for the nominal voltage of a battery.

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america94
4 days ago

I would just say the battery design is an important consideration for "future-proofing". I know this Voltbike battery design is new and very popular, so it should be around for a long time. For example, Juiced Bikes uses the same battery type. This design has 2 types that are not interchangeble... a long and short version. Voltbike and Juiced Bikes uses the short version.

If you bought the Urban Ryder at Costco, I wonder if the battery can be easily replaced in the future. Keep in mind that Lithium batteries are difficult to ship, so shopping online or even from the U.S. may not be an option.

In terms of quality, price and customer service, I have nothing but good things to say about Voltbike. George (the owner) has been wonderful and quick to respond. As I said, I own the Yukon 750 with over 1,000 kms on it already.

From your list, the seat post and derailleur guard is an easy and inexpensive fix. I don't like twist throttle either, but I can live with it.

I prefer a non-integrated rack... in black. Like you said, something that is removeable with a spring clamp.

I know the above picture is a pre-release version, but I hope the final version will have more tasteful design on the paint. Right now, it looks really bare in plain white.

P.S. As a comparison, this Voltbike design is similar to the Surface604 Rook.

Thanks for your great feedback as always @SuperGoop. The Urban Ryder is sold by a Canadian cie in BC (Green Light Cycles). They have an actual shop in BC for locals and the exclusive deal with Costco online. Just like Voltbike and Georges, GLC and the owner/staff have rave reviews in terms of service and friendliness. I contacted them a few times and got very prompt responses. That's how I found out that the battery pack for the Urban Ryder is 360$ canadian, which i find quite reasonable (and also about the peak amp for the controller).

I would never buy it at $2000, but at 1500$ shipping included, it's more tempting. My idea so far has been to put the $500 difference on accessories, tools, clothing instead. Push comes to shove, I can always return it for a refund.

I agree about the seat post and derailleur guard - easy and cheap fixes.

Good eye for the Surface604 Rook! Almost twins, hey? :-)

america94
4 days ago

I've been studying that picture quite a bit since the "unveiling"..... I was very interested at first, but noticed a few things that bug me a bit compared to other bikes:
No "suspension" for the seat or seat post
No quick release on the front wheel
No mounts for bottle cage or accessories
No derailleur guard
Possibly a twist throttle? hard to see on the picture
The chain guard looks like hard plastic that might break after a fall?
The integrated rear rack looks really great, but you can't take it off or get a "clean" solution like Ibera PakRak with quick release bags.

The mud flaps added to the fenders are a very nice touch. The more upright sitting position really attracts me as well.

I am really torn now as I was set on buying the Urban Ryder at Costco for 1500$ right before this bike is finally available. I really would like to get all the specs and final pricing of this new Voltbike before that! I know that the Urban Ryder is a more ancient design but all the things I mentioned above are a non-issue. And just like a good old (although more boring) Toyota Corolla, the same model has been on the market for a few years with nothing but positive reviews. I know the current peak limit of the controller is 21 amps, which is decent paired with a 500w motor. No clue about the controller for this new release from Voltbike or about long term reliability.

Anyone that wants to chime in to help me in my decision between these 2 bikes, please do! :-)

america94
6 days ago

Hi @america94 , since our new Voltbike model is coming pretty soon, it would be no secret to release it here.
It features the same in-frame design battery as Yukon which is 48v 10.4Ah, the same LCD screen, 500w motor 8Fun, adjustable stem, front suspension SR Suntour, fenders, rear rack, chain guard, disc brakes Tektro and front and rear light (not seen at the photo.) plus Kenda tires 26x2.1". Price would be in the $1600 CAD range or $1300 USD. It will be available in black and white.

I second that motion @SuperGoop ! I think you got yourself a winner here @Voltbike . Very nice integrated rack, it looks great. Anyone not into fat bikes and mucho $$ will love this.

From my online research so far, I would say one of the best offerings at that price point for canadians (taking into consideration the reputation of Voltbike as a company in general and the reliability of their bikes).

Can you let us know the peak current limit (in amps) of the controller? looks like a twist throttle? 7 speeds? thanks

Devon
1 week ago

The 2015 models are still great bikes. 350W is more like nominal output of the motor. It puts out ~700W peak.
Also, unlike Bosch, Brose or Yamaha, there is not sharp cut-off of 20mph.

Have you been able to test ride one?
Just comparing specs can give very skewed understanding of E-bikes.

Unfortunately no, it's been very cold around here still and I'm only aware of 1 bike shop that may carry a few Specialized ebikes, nothing else.

Ravi Kempaiah
1 week ago

I'd have to say the Easy Motion Evo 27.5 Jumper is the closest I've found to what I'm looking for.

Not a fan of the color scheme or the split cross bar, but it has full suspension, a seem-less battery integration, and a throttle option. Unfortunately, it's a much older model, is only 350w motor, and only reaches 20mph.

The newer 2016+ models have apparently removed the throttle options... :/

The 2015 models are still great bikes. 350W is more like nominal output of the motor. It puts out ~700W peak.
Also, unlike Bosch, Brose or Yamaha, there is not sharp cut-off of 20mph.

Have you been able to test ride one?
Just comparing specs can give very skewed understanding of E-bikes.

SuperGoop
3 days ago

We are also planning to release another more budget friendly version step through frame which will use regular size 26x2.1" tires and rear hub 500w motor and integrated along the frame battery the same as on the Voltbike Yukon and and Voltbike Enduro.
This will come in mid April, 2017.I look forward to this, but hope the step-through design is not too "nerdy".

I just really want a "normal" looking bike... regular tire size, non-foldable, stealthy geared hub motor, 48v, and lighter weight that is readily available to Canadians, and not too expensive. Even without suspension is fine too.

The Enduro is nice, but the geometry just doesn't look right to me. It looks a bit stretched. If you look at the chain, it looks really long. I can't find the wheelbase specs in millimeters, but it seems a bit too long. Maybe it is the full suspension. Maybe if it was a hardtail, it may look better, lighter weight, and less expensive too! Also, I am not a big fan of white strip on the tires (or is it shiny metal from the wheel?), but others may like it.

Some example of what geometry I like is the Juiced Cross Current or the Magnum Peak, but I don't need the high end components like hydraulic brakes, air shocks, etc. if that can keep the price low.

I have the Yukon 750 with over 1,000 km of trouble-free distance, and I absolutely love it. The fat tires is a love-hate relationship. I love it, but it draws too much attention, lol. Everyone is complimenting on my Yukon 750, but I just want to quietly ride the trails unnoticed.

I prefer a 48v powerful geared hub motor. I think it is less expensive, simpler and much more stealthy (compared to mid-drives).

P.S. I also don't like regenerative hub motors (like on the RadCity) because it is heavier with larger magnets, and drags on the wheel and doesn't free wheel like a normal bike. Regen is overrated, IMO. The efficiency is just too low to be effective. I'd rather coast freely than having the added drag.

emco5
1 week ago

Thank you, HarryS, for the input. I've owned four power-assisted bikes in the last ten years from 250w to 500w, so I get it. Looking for rider experience comparing the 350w hub against the Shimano STEPS. The smaller STEPS system has a torque rating of 50 Nm while the Bafang hub makes a bit less at 45 Nm. If Shimano's chosen gearing doesn't interfere, and their mapping is dialed, it could be a better climber. I suspect, though, that the Steps torque number is reached only at peak rider input which would not reduce rider fatigue. Although I've not seen the Bafang's power curve, my rides on one felt like its torque peaked almost immediately.

SuperGoop
1 week ago

I just really love my Voltbike Yukon 750, and try to understand it as much as possible, but I have no skill in electronics, hacks, mods, etc.

I would just say that going faster than 32km/h will not be very useful very long. The pedal cadence will not be able to keep up comfortably for long. I would be spinning my legs without helping the motor very much. Therefore, the motor will be doing all the work, and at that 32km/h throttle only, the battery will only last less than 1 hour, not to mention the strain on the motor, battery and controller.

Wind resistance will make high speed riding very inefficient, especially on a fat bike. I would much rather go a bit slower at around 22-25 km/h and double my battery range. In reality, I usually ride at around 20-22 km/h for a good balance between speed and range.

On really long rides (70+ km round trip), I go even slower at around 16-20 km/h and try to "hyper-mile" as much as possible. "Hypermiling" is a technique used to in the automobile world to maximize mileage by minimizing braking and wind resistance.

For example, I pedal just enough to get me to the peak of a hill, but never more because I know the decent will carry me the rest of the way, and I don't want to use my brakes on the decent, and therefore wasting precious energy.

P.S. Having said that, having the "ability" to get more wattage, or go faster than 32km/h is still useful for short bursts of fun, for emergency, or as needed.

Lost
2 weeks ago

I wonder if you have the old controller programming? I think you can contact Rad Power Bikes to re-program your controller for $25+shipping.

Old controller: The hub motor is set to a mph cut-off and re-engages (sometimes at full power) if you dip below that mark. Very hard to maintain a smooth ride in lower PAS with the motor kicking in/out (noisy and jerky). Might have been a contributing factor in my wreck on my bike with the old controller program on a tight muddy corner. I think the hub motor kicked in with too much power in the turn at PAS 3 and the front tire lost grip and plowed straight ahead instead of turning.

PAS 1: 4 mph
PAS 2: 8 mph (500w peak, max PAS level for climbing steep hills)
PAS 3: 12 mph
PAS 4: 16 mph
PAS 5: 20 mph

New controller: Power stays consistent and level until the 20 mph motor cutoff. The wattage is slowly decreased once you reach motor cutoff speed. More like riding an escalator and you have the option to stand, walk up the stairs, or jog up to change your level of exercise. I find the bike's 7 gears can be matched to the PAS level and your pedal cadence rpm to find a sweet spot much easier compared to the old controller program.

PAS 1: 75 watts
PAS 2: 175 watts
PAS 3: 375 watts
PAS 4: 550 watts (new max PAS level for steep hills)
PAS 5: 750 watts

The new controller update is really worth it if you spend the majority of your riding at PAS 3 or lower. The only downside is having less peak power on hills at the lower PAS levels; but, the throttle takes care of that.
This is the way it SHOULD be! Why, then, with my Rad only a month old, did I get stuck with the old firmware?
Yuck.

mrgold35
2 weeks ago

I'm getting pretty (very very) annoyed at the speed cutout on pas. I would like to be able to have the level 2 assist at higher speeds. So much so I am considering any alternatives that anyone could come up with to drop the limits. I love the rover except for this glaring fault, and had I known it would bother me, would consider a competitor product.

WHY THE INCREDIBLY STUPID SPEED LIMIT?

I want a little bit of assist at say 10 mph. That's not possible with pas. Say a consistant 200 watt boost at 10 to 12 mph so I can get a little bit of exercise at that speed.

I wonder if you have the old controller programming? I think you can contact Rad Power Bikes to re-program your controller for $25+shipping.

Old controller: The hub motor is set to a mph cut-off and re-engages (sometimes at full power) if you dip below that mark. Very hard to maintain a smooth ride in lower PAS with the motor kicking in/out (noisy and jerky). Might have been a contributing factor in my wreck on my bike with the old controller program on a tight muddy corner. I think the hub motor kicked in with too much power in the turn at PAS 3 and the front tire lost grip and plowed straight ahead instead of turning.

PAS 1: 4 mph
PAS 2: 8 mph (500w peak, max PAS level for climbing steep hills)
PAS 3: 12 mph
PAS 4: 16 mph
PAS 5: 20 mph

New controller: Power stays consistent and level until the 20 mph motor cutoff. The wattage is slowly decreased once you reach motor cutoff speed. More like riding an escalator and you have the option to stand, walk up the stairs, or jog up to change your level of exercise. I find the bike's 7 gears can be matched to the PAS level and your pedal cadence rpm to find a sweet spot much easier compared to the old controller program.

PAS 1: 75 watts
PAS 2: 175 watts
PAS 3: 375 watts
PAS 4: 550 watts (new max PAS level for steep hills)
PAS 5: 750 watts

The new controller update is really worth it if you spend the majority of your riding at PAS 3 or lower. The only downside is having less peak power on hills at the lower PAS levels; but, the throttle takes care of that.

Lisa
2 weeks ago

Lisa,
you should look into this..

http://electricbikereport.com/izip-e3-peak-electric-bike-review-part-2-ride-range-test-video/

Looks sweet! I think I found a dealer where I can try one out soon. Does seem promising.

pxpaulx
2 weeks ago

Lisa,
you should look into this..

http://electricbikereport.com/izip-e3-peak-electric-bike-review-part-2-ride-range-test-video/

dang that is a nice bike with a bosch motor from Izip, I'm impressed!

Ravi Kempaiah
2 weeks ago

It's 32 miles round trip, but I figured on charging the bike at work. Mrgold brought up the public transportation and weight issues which I hadn't considered. Now I'm thinking mountain bike or folding fat tires might be better.

I was thinking under 3000 dollars

Lisa,
you should look into this..

http://electricbikereport.com/izip-e3-peak-electric-bike-review-part-2-ride-range-test-video/

Sai Kodi
2 weeks ago

Woo hoo!! This is awesome. I had a decent trip I think in 44F temperature with slight winds.

Trip Distance: 9.2 miles
Time: 31 minutes
Pedal Assist Mode: Eco and Sport mix - never went to turbo
Max speed: 32 mph down hill

I got the Xduro FS S RX from shopsandiegoflyrides for a pretty good price. Based on advise from Ravi (of Crazy Lennyse Bikes), I made a few changes.

My Microsoft Band 2 says average heart rate was 143 and peak was 165. I have no words to say other than I am blown away.

I did have a RadRover before this but the FS S RX is in an all together different league.

Casey Neistat
12 months ago

The road racing bike with drop bars you tested was it limited to 28 miles an hour or could it go faster unlimited on a straight flat road ?

joes joey
12 months ago

what do you think about the SPECIALIZED – LEVO HT COMP 6FATTIE compared to a ohm fat bike or other high class electric bikes? can it pass the 20mph limit ? of course not in the streets but off road on private land can it pass 20mph like the ohm fat bike?thanks and great videos really appreciate your passion for electric cycling !!

Clinton Baltazor
12 months ago

How do these bikes perform in the rain, cold weather, or a really windy day! Whats the durability factor? Your weather is not like the rest the country! Just my opinion, otherwise indepth and quality review! I really like the Izip line of ebikes!

Casey Neistat
12 months ago

Great review again.

FRANK ROBY
12 months ago

good value.

JV
12 months ago

+FRANK ROBY Lol not really.