Haibike SDURO HardSeven SM Review

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Summary

  • The most affordable Haibike in the 2016 line, features the Yamaha drive system with a basic fixed LED display console, basic saddle, heavier oil suspension fork and cheaper Kenda tires without liners
  • Solid nine-speed SRAM X-4 drivetrain, no shift sensing or motor inhibitors, large 180 mm hydraulic disc brakes, quick release wheels and seat
  • Removable battery pack, larger and slightly heavier four Amp charger, available in four frame sizes and one color scheme: satin gray with white accents
  • Only offers three levels of pedal assist vs. the LCD Yamaha display that offers four and has a Micro USB charger, no bottle cage mounts and limited rack and fender bosses, a bit heavier at ~49 lbs

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Introduction

Make:

Haibike

Model:

SDURO HardSeven SM

Price:

$2,499

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Trail, Mountain

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

2 Year Motor and Battery, 5 Year Frame

Availability:

United States, Europe

Model Year:

2016

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

49.3 lbs (22.36 kg)

Battery Weight:

6.5 lbs (2.94 kg)

Frame Material:

Hydroformed Aluminum Alloy 6061

Frame Sizes:

13.5 in (34.29 cm)15.5 in (39.37 cm)17.5 in (44.45 cm)19.5 in (49.53 cm)21.5 in (54.61 cm)

Geometry Measurements:

Extra Small 35 cm (350 mm Seattube Length, 1075 mm Wheelbase, 365 mm Reach), Small 40 cm (400 mm Seattube Length, 1090 mm Wheelbase, 380 mm Reach), Medium 45 cm (450 mm Seattube Length, 1105 mm Wheelbase, 395 mm Reach, 735 mm Standover Height), Large 50 cm (500 mm Seattube Length, 1120 mm Wheelbase, 410 mm Reach), Extra Large 55 cm (550 mm Seattube Length, 1135 mm Wheelbase, 425 mm Reach)

Frame Types:

Mid-Step

Frame Colors:

Matte Gray with White Accents

Frame Fork Details:

SR Suntour XCR with Preload Adjust, Lockout and 100 mm Travel

Attachment Points:

Fender Bosses, Rear Rack Bosses

Gearing Details:

9 Speed 1x9 SRAM X-4, Direct Mount , 11-34T

Shifter Details:

SRAM Impulse Triggers on Right

Cranks:

FSA CK-745 Aluminum, 38T

Pedals:

Plastic and Aluminum Platform, Track Style

Headset:

620 mm Stack, 140 mm Headtube Length, 70º Headtube Angle

Stem:

XLC Aluminum, 45 mm Length

Handlebar:

Flat Aluminum 28.5" Length

Brake Details:

Tektro Auriga Hydraulic Disc with 180 mm Rotors

Grips:

XLC Body Optimized, Flat Rubber with Lockers

Saddle:

Haibike, Active

Seat Post:

Aluminum Alloy

Seat Post Length:

300 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

31.6 mm

Rims:

Alloy 5061, 584 x 19c

Spokes:

Stainless Steel 14G, Black

Tire Brand:

Kenda, 27.5" x 2.1"

Wheel Sizes:

27.5 in (69.85cm)

Tube Details:

Schrader

Other:

Locking Removable Battery Pack, Quick Release Wheels and Seat Tube, Cable Inlets, Replaceable Plastic Skid Plate, Gravity Casting Motor Mount Interface with CNC Milled Connection and Bearing Seat Points, Zero Cadence Assist

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Yamaha

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

250 watts

Motor Peak Output:

500 watts

Motor Torque:

80 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Samsung

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

11 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

396 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

4.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

25 miles (40 km)

Estimated Max Range:

60 miles (97 km)

Display Type:

Fixed, Backlit LED Console

Readouts:

Battery Level, Range Estimate, Assist Level (Low, Standard, High), Speed

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Cadence and Torque, Eco: 50%, Normal: 100%, Power: 200%)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

The Haibike SDURO HardSeven SM is the most affordable model in the extensive Haibike lineup… and I’m going to help you understand why. While it still looks awesome thanks to an exciting paint scheme with matching fork, grips and saddle and the frame itself – still hydroformed with gravity cast mounting interface – is great, the components have been downgraded… pretty much across the board. The one exception might be the hydraulic disc brakes with 180 mm rotors, I’m glad they kept these vs. going mechanical because they perform much better on trail or mountain terrain and given the 30 to 60 mile range of this thing, you don’t want your hands to get tired.

Okay, so let’s list off the differences between this model and the more expensive SL and RC which are $300 and $700 more than the SM (which costs $2,499). Both of these models deliver a removable, backlit LCD display panel with tons of extra readouts (odometer, max speed, time, clock etc.) and an extra drive mode called Eco+. Additionally, you get a Micro USB port for charging lights and other portable electronics that’s located on the remote button pad. Moving on to comfort and portability… instead of a heavy oil-filled suspension fork on the SM you get an air fork with remote lockout and rebound adjust. The SM does have preload adjustment but it’s pretty basic and the lockout uses a crown-mounted plastic swivel (all forks offer 100 mm travel). While the SL and RC offer Schwalbe tires with puncture protection and precision mount Presta valves the SM has generic Kendas with old-fashioned Schrader stems. The saddle is more basic and doesn’t include a clip at the rear for adding a bag or lights and you only get nine speeds and a cheap SRAM X-4 derailleur (one step up from their lowest level offering) vs. 10 Shimano Deore or 20 Shimano SLX respectively (both solid mid-range components). The color scheme is also toned down with white accents on a flat gray background vs. blue and yellow accents on gray and white for the higher two models.

So are all of these trade-offs worth it?! Yes, definitely if you’re already stretching your budget from $2k just to get into a Haibike. I really enjoyed the simplicity of the LED console and didn’t mind the extra few pound on the suspension fork. The motor and battery used here are exactly the same as what you’d get on the SL and RC… and the missing “Eco+” drive mode isn’t something I used much while testing. If you can afford the $300 upgrade to SL I think that’s the best value because the nicer tires won’t get punctures as frequently and the air fork rides better. But hey, you can always swap forks out later (they might not match perfectly) and the tires are going to get replaced eventually anyway. I love that all of these models offer quick release wheelsets and am in love with the purpose-built frames, internal wire routing and tuff plastic skid plate protecting the motor. For riding to work or around the college campus the HardSeven is a real winner!

I touched on this a bit in the review but let’s dig into the motor a bit here. It’s mounted low and center, well protected and uses speed, cadence and torque to operate quickly and efficiently but the motor speed itself seems more limited than the Bosch systems. I simply prefer their technology over Yamaha at this stage. Bosch offers shift sensing which will reduce wear on your chain, sprockets and derailleur but for an urban rider that’s not a huge deal, just don’t mash the gears… ease off when shifting. I found myself pushing harder to maintain a 20 mph average speed and was almost always pedaling in the highest two gears because torque is the key ingredient in activating pedal assist with this ebike. My one ask to Yamaha would be to make their motor spin faster at times so I could shift down to lower gears and still hit 20 mph. All things considered, this is a winning electric bike and one that I’d feel comfortable locking up outside and seeing get banged up and worn out because it’s just more plain and less expensive. The first thing I’d add would be a beam rack and pannier blockers for use with bags so I wouldn’t have to constantly wear my backpack and yes… a bottle cage mounting point somewhere on the frame would be nice but I see that most of the downtube is taken up by the battery pack. It’s all about trade offs but I can appreciate the ones made to hit this lower price point and aside from some clicking heard in the review (from the chain guide) it operated quietly and eased my concerns about longevity given the two year comprehensive warranty and excellent dealer support.

Pros:

  • Haibike is touting their Yamaha powered electric bikes as offering “uncompromising performance” geared for a younger demographic, zero cadence assist is meant to be more immediate (verses the Bosch Centerdrive which requires 20 rpm for the motor to kick in), in my experience both systems start extremely quickly and Yamaha’s primary advantage is that it costs less and is compatible with two chainrings vs. just one for a wider gear range 455% vs. 420%
  • Even though this model uses the more basic LED console from Yamah, I like how it performed… the readout was visible and all of the most important menus were there (assist level, battery percentage, speed, range estimate)
  • The Yamaha motor operates without producing much noise when pedaling at slow and medium cadence speeds (especially in Low and Normal mode), you hear it more when pedaling in lower gears in High mode
  • You can charge the battery pack on or off the frame and since it slides on from the side vs. straight down like Bosch and other brands, it allows the top tube of the frame to drop lower for a decreased stand over height
  • I like how easy it was to open and close the rubber cover that protects the charging port on the left side of the battery, on some ebikes this type of cover is difficult to seat and comes undone easily which could allow water/debris in
  • Professional color scheme, the matte gray with white accents looks cool and even the saddle, grips and fork are color matched
  • Decent suspension fork upgrades, you get preload adjust and a slider lockout… because this is an oil-based shock vs. air it weighs more and rattled a bit when riding during my tests
  • Excellent weight distribution, the motor and battery are positioned low and center improving handling, both wheels have quick release for easier transport or trail maintenance and the motor is well protected with a replaceable plastic skid plate
  • Available in five distinct frame sizes! This makes it much more accessible to short and tall bodied riders, improving comfort and making it easier to ride for long periods of time

Cons:

  • The Yamaha motor seems to have a limited range of speeds compared to Bosch, in practice this meant that as I shifted down going into climbs my assisted-speed would drop, only the highest two gears would reach ~20 mph assisted and I had to strain my legs and knees more when climbing with mid-level gears or relent and drop all the way down to the lowest gears which reduces speed
  • No shift sensing or shift detection built into the drive system, this could lead to more mashing, banging and premature wear on the chain, cassette and derailleur
  • No bottle cage bosses on the frame though it appears that you could add fenders or at least mud guards and possibly a rear carry rack… definitely a rear beam rack like this and consider pannier blockers
  • More generic parts here including Kenda tires with Schrader Valves vs. Schwalbe with puncture protection and Presta Valves on the higher level models, the saddle is no-name and the derailleur is lower level SRAM X-4, you also get one fewer levels of assist (just Eco, Standard and Power vs. Eco+ with the LCD display unit), the display panel is not removable and there’s no USB charging port

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steve pettyjohn
2 years ago

Hey Court, Great review – as usual! Looking forward to your review of the new Haibikes with the new Bosch CX motor. I ordered one 5 weeks ago and no word yet if it has even left Germany. Can’t wait.

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Thao
2 years ago

Hey I love your reviews. But I am a little confused on your comments about the power range of the Yamaha system. If you are in the lowest gears for going up hill, i’m assuming the motor will only assist you as fast as you can pedal, which the mph shouldn’t be very fast considering you are in climbing gears. So my questions is how are the Bosch motors able to assist beyond the pedaling speed at low gears. That would almost make it like a full throttle since your pedaling at low gears isn’t fast enough to keep up with the speed. So even though you are pedaling but not putting any power into it because it’s beyond the speed of pedaling power, how would the Bosch motor propel you to above the pedaling speed. To me that would seem like a full throttle bike. Without the throttle of course. Or am I misunderstanding your comment? Because if I’m pedaling at the lowest gears, let say I can only reach 5-6 mph, and that’s the fastest I can pedal cause of the gearing. Now on the bosche motor, would it propel me above that, like a full throttle? If so, that would mean it’s all motor that pushing me since the gears wouldn’t allow me to pedal that fast. Is that what you mean by the power range? Thanks

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Court Rye
2 years ago

Hi Thao! I’m sorry I wasn’t more clear… I felt frustrated with my dialog when editing because I feared the comment would come off just like you described, that cadence is the limiter and not the motor. I’ll try to distill the feeling: as pedal RPM goes up the motor power drops significantly compared to Bosch so even though both systems might have a limited top RPM, I feel that Bosch is higher and that the power you get is more consistent across that range. For Yamaha it feels as though the best power is only at lower cadence and relies more on torque input so I end up pedaling slower and pushing harder than I’d like. This comes into play when climbing especially because as I shift down to spin and generate more power the motor RPM kicks up and its power drops out so in turn my cadence slows… and again I shift down… eventually I’m just going way slower than I’d like in order to get the motor support I need to get myself and the 50 lb bike up a trail :/

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Pierre M Tremblay
6 months ago

Court EBR Hi, Being retired, I always enjoyed riding bikes. However, things like WIND and HILLS were becoming more and more a good excuse for NOT GO Biking… Being completely “unfamiliar” with electric bikes, I went to a bike shop and started to watch your very informative reviews. I now have a Haibike SDuro Cross SL customized with rack, etc. and must say that it gave me back the pleasure of bike riding. I want to express my appreciation for all the very pertinent information which you provide.

Pierre M

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Court Rye
6 months ago

That’s awesome! Thank you so much for taking the time to share a compliment Pierre, and good for you getting out there and enjoying cycling again! Have a blast and ride safe :D

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Johnny
20 hours ago

I am someone who recently returned biking after 2 years. I have a trek hybrid that I like riding and I usually use it for commuting too (around 20 miles round-trip). I can climb hills and I am kinda fit however I like to extend my range and sometimes I don't want to sweat too much in my commute.

At first I was planning to switch to a road bike then I realized that I also want to go to trails every now and then and I want some assurance that even on the days that I feel a little worn out I can still ride. So I have been having many thoughts about e-bikes.

Although I have an understanding on the electrical components (I used to build RC planes and in that hobby you deal with lipo batteries, speed controllers , chargers etc a lot) when it comes to bikes I don't know much.

I do know that I want to keep getting my exercise (so I don't want a throttle, I want some pedal assist at times to increase my range and provide convenience) and I also want to be able to completely disable it and still ride the bike without getting resistance from the motor.

I have two main options:

1. Getting a e-bike conversion kit for my current bike. I searched for a kit with torque sensor however I couldn't find and sellers in the US. If I ordered from China then the price is still too high to risk it. If someone can point me to a US based kit with torque sensors I can give it a try.

2. Just getting an ebike which is a pain altogether. I didn't know that there were so many small manufacturers. I am more into getting into a well known brand like Trek, Giant etc. since even the cheaper options (which on paper they look great value) are between 1.5k-2K,

Here are some of the bikes I had in mind,

- Giant Road E 1 https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/bikes-road-eplus, I really like a road bike and this seemed great at first but then again, it will be heavy and although I love dropbars I don't know how much of a bike I am getting and how much I am paying for the motor system.

- Trek Crossrip+ https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/electric-hybrid-bikes/crossrip/crossrip/p/1373000-2018/?colorCode=black, seems to be a e-cyclocross then again 4.5K price and the frame looks like an entry level model.

Now that I realized that I don't have many choices in road/gravel type e bikes I began considering more hybrid like bikes,

- Trek Super Commuter, https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/hybrid-bikes/electric-hybrid-bikes/super-commuter/super-commuter-8s/p/1367000-2018/?colorCode=red, again too expensive and does not seem to be designed for agility or fitness.

- Giant Quick -E https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/bikes-quick-eplus, looks to be a much better choice compared to super commuter both in design and price.

The real problem is since bike is so heavy does it really matter to go for a solid fork ? I am seriously thinking about getting a bike with front suspension like the ones below.

- Trek Powerfly https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/mountain-bikes/electric-mountain-bikes/powerfly/powerfly-5/p/2914600-2018/?colorCode=grey_black

-Giant Explore https://www.giant-bicycles.com/us/explore-eplus-3 , this one at $2.350 is priced very nicely seems to have some trail capabilities.

- Haibike hard seven https://wheelworld.com/product/haibike-sduro-hardseven-4.0-297072-1.htm

I don't know how Haibike stacks against the Brand bikes. I also don't know if the front suspension e-bikes will be good commuters on the road. It seems like since weight is not as big of an issue with e bikes the companies can still make durable bikes at those price ranges.

I also don't wanna pay $3K + for a bike since it is still a bike I don't really like to spend that much.

I will be happy if I can get some help.

J.R.
4 months ago

would you order a bike online, or stick to whatever overpriced options were in your area
I can understand the small market issues you have, I don't have an ebike shop anywhere near. The service aspect I do myself, or I likely wouldn't have purchased 2 ebikes. With your need for service, I don't think it prudent to buy any ebike long distance. They all need service, some more than others.

The way you worded the above question, it appears you've made up your mind, the quality brands you list are overpriced. There are bikes of those brands that are discounted. You could ask if the shops could get a 2016 model from the distributor. They will want to sell you something from their stock, it'll be up to you to convince them it's that sale, or no sale.

I've seen the following $2500 bike discounted to within your price range and there are plenty of dealers with it listed at a discount. It's available in a range of sizes and checks all your other wants and needs as well. Best part is you apparently have a Haibike dealer that can service the bike as needed. Another option is to wait until the 2017 models go on clearance late this year. Good luck in your search!

https://electricbikereview.com/haibike/sduro-hardseven-sm/

Dewey
8 months ago

Haibike SDURO Hard Seven SM is $2500, uses a Yamaha mid-drive motor (80NM torque), and has reasonable battery range, Court's review. The Focus Jafira 29 is $2800, uses the Bosch Performance CX mid-drive motor (75NM Torque), and has a comparable battery range.

piper109
8 months ago

I too ended up getting an Sduro trekking also. I bought mine online as there are no electric bike dealers close to my home. After reading quite a lot, I settled on a Haibike because of the German connection and attention to detail that is typical.
I tried to buy the Hardseven SM or the Cross SM as a company I contacted had some really good deals on 2016 models in Jan,Feb etc and I was was shopping for two, one for me and one for the missus.

As luck would have it, they didn't have the size I needed in the Hardseven but the salesman talked me into the 2016 Trekking SL by saying its basically the same bike as the Hardseven but with some extra gear like fenders, lights, rack etc and the SL equipment was a little better, derailleurs etc. I figured that although I was not looking for fenders, lights etc, I could always take them off and perhaps put them back on at a later date. Pricing was "very attractive" at 2 grand, shipping included.
I have not yet ridden it very much yet because of wintery weather which is now easing. I have had no desire to remove the extra gear as believe it or not its all useful !
I might go for knobblier tires for gravel roads I often have to deal with here in the Appalachians and if I had to do it all again I would go for the 2017 version with 20 gears as I cant do high cadences. My wife and I both like the 2016 Trekking version and we saved a bundle between us. Sure we don't have the later, bigger batteries but we probably wont need them.

b b
2 months ago

Is this the same bike as the sduro Cross sm?

John Glaister
2 months ago

Great and honest review. I bought this bike about 4 months ago and have done over 1000 miles on roads and some mountain trails. I'm 63 years old and was after a bike to help with fitness and to have some fun with. I'd score the bike 10/10 for helping me achieve both objectives.

The bike is great fun to ride and the motor helps massively going up hills. I've done 1500 ft climbs into local hills which I wouldn't have considered doing without this bike.

Great bike for the money. The Contour forks are probably ok for riding on streets, but I replaced them with some Manitou Marvel air forks for about £200. Doing this improved the bike massively.

I wore out the chain and 9 speed cassette after 600 miles. I think changing gears on steep climbs under load wears them out quickly. I replaced the chain with a stronger KMC 9e chain which is made for e bikes, and put a better Shimano XT cassette on as well. I'd hope these will last longer.

b b
2 months ago

John Glaister ok thanks.

John Glaister
2 months ago

b b In the UK we would class the Sduro Cross sl as a hybrid bike. It has 29" wheels instead of 27.5" wheels. Otherwise the spec is the same, I believe. A great bike for roads and light trail work.

b b
2 months ago

John Glaister is this bike the same as the haibike sduro Cross sl currently being sold on Amazon for $1600?

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 months ago

Nice! I'm glad you enjoyed my review and appreciate your additional feedback about fork upgrades and shifting carefully. I agree that climbing and shifting can be sensitive and produce some extra strain and wear. Hope your new hardware holds up for you :)

JohnnyG
6 months ago

Sounds like a rattling garbage can when moving.

Ryan Thomas
10 months ago

do you only review 500watt insanely overpriced wastes of money? seriously?? what hipster dbag drops this kind of money on this pos?? I'm not even going to begin to explain the insane waste of money that is this piece of garbage! anybody reading my comment here should just look up Ebikes, see for yourself what you can get for your money don't buy this douchebags advice. for less than a quarter this things cost you can get something over 7000 Watts! let that sink in..

b b
2 months ago

I won't leave yep it's very cheap right now on Amazon $1500. It's a good bike for what you're getting in terms of price and quality.

I won't leave
2 months ago

This is about as fucking cheap as a good electric bike gets. You are some ind of massively stupid lol. Or just a shit troll

I won't leave
2 months ago

Wow lmao. You are a fucking idiot.

b b
2 months ago

TheAegisClaw I guess he wants cheap Chinese Walmart bikes instead of a German quality bike lol.

TheAegisClaw
3 months ago

This is an electric bicycle. What you seem to want is an electric motorcycle powered by cheap Chinese hub motors and a DIY battery hooked up to a Walmart bicycle shaped object. Enjoy yours, we'll enjoy ours.

Josh Amidon
1 year ago

hmmm this or the juiced cross current?

b b
2 months ago

Josh Amidon which bike did you get?

audunp95
1 year ago

What size is the bike you tested? I am 6 ft 1 5/8 inch and trying to decide between the 50cm and 55cm frame.

Ian Mangham
1 year ago

audunp95 I'd go with the 50, I'm 6'2 and ride a 53cm frame ,you can easily adjust the bars and seat post for height and reach,you'll save weight getting the smaller frame and will have greater control 👍🏻

myrainbow
1 year ago

Is it possible to just get just the frame with motor and battery with this or any of the ebikes that u have reviewed!!

cbr9927
2 years ago

Its pretty good but on modest hills the legs will get a workout even on highest power output.

E-MountainBiker
2 years ago

Nice review

sputnic
2 years ago

Great reviewsBut you don´t seem to have any bikes under $1000 except the yellow one , unless I missed themIve seen some like X-trail , is that somehing not worth buyin ?

SchrodingersQuark
2 years ago

No air fork is a real shame.

Clinton Baltazor
2 years ago

Ebike down, expensive and loud. Its does look cool, but looks aren't everything! Another spot on review.

mobgma
2 years ago

No throttle mode killed what would have been a perfect bike at the price.

TheAegisClaw
3 months ago

mobgma there are no throttles allowed on European eBikes. It's the law here.

cbr9927
2 years ago

+mobgma
Throttles are fun, I have a 15 IZIP Dash with the throttle. I tried this bike out yesterday. Its slower for sure than the IZIP but at the price of 2499 its still a great bike, I myself would not pay more than 2k for it. Maybe winter sale later?

MotorheadRedo
2 years ago

I wonder if the Yamaha system is easier on the drive train since the larger front sprocket reduces torque? How does the Yamaha system compare to the 8fun? If the Yamaha motor is anything like their motorcycles, than this is a good motor.

Vorname Nachname
2 years ago

hey electric bike review first I want to say that I really enjoy your nicely made reviews and just want to ask sth.
I want to buy myself a new bike but the only suitable bike for me is the "Leisger MD5" but it got quite expensive... Could u recommend me a nice mountain bike let's say between 500 and 1000 $ ?

Artur Ragulskyi
2 years ago

this shifting sound... its killing chain and gears..

Spencer Han
2 years ago

Sounds like a porn name. Lol but realy...tell the company to make their enduro and downhill models with 750 watt motors at least. It'll still be road legal. Tell them they lost alot of potential customers including me, because they only offer these anemic euro models. I got the bafang bbshd and slapped it on a blue SantaCruz V10 cc and backpack battery that weighs 10 lbs,24 amp hours. 60 plus mile range with moderate pedaling.

TheAegisClaw
3 months ago

They're a European company and here you cannot have more than 250w unless you have a licence, insurance etc. Even then you only get 350w and 28mph

Flo Mo
2 years ago

2499,- A high price, but a perfect electric bike. It is very edgy. Something too edgy? Thank you for this video. :)

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+Elya Cornovier Glad you enjoyed it Elya, yeah it's still a lot of money but for the quality and awesome design it got me excited :D

Jaran Boyce
2 years ago

lowest price cool

Jaran Boyce
2 years ago

Ok what is the cheapest price u know

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+Jaran Boyce For a Haibike yes ;) but there are of course cheaper electric bikes out there... For me, this is just one of the coolest companies with awesome paint, a whole range of frame sizes and a solid drive system

FRANK ROBY
2 years ago

I'd spend a little more and get the SL version I've got one and its very good.

ElectricBikeReview.com
2 years ago

+FRANK ROBY I agree, the screen upgrade alone is solid but the lighter fork is also better :)