Haibike XDURO Nduro RX

Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Electric Bike Review 1
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Bosch Centerdrive With Ses
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Bosch Powerpack 400 Battery
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Bosch Intuvia Display Lcd
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx 20 Mm Thru Axle
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx 180 Mm Shimano Slx Rotor
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Fox 36 Talas 180 Suspension
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Fox Ctd Suspension 180
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Kind Shox Seat Post Drop
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Mid Drive Motor Hive Cranks
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Shimano Deore Xt Shadow Plus
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Electric Bike Review 1
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Bosch Centerdrive With Ses
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Bosch Powerpack 400 Battery
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Bosch Intuvia Display Lcd
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx 20 Mm Thru Axle
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx 180 Mm Shimano Slx Rotor
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Fox 36 Talas 180 Suspension
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Fox Ctd Suspension 180
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Kind Shox Seat Post Drop
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Mid Drive Motor Hive Cranks
Haibike Xduro Nduro Rx Shimano Deore Xt Shadow Plus

Summary

  • The entry-level performance downhill electric bike from Haibike with 26" wheels , long travel 180 mm air suspension by Fox with CTD adjust and hydraulic Shimano SLX disc brakes
  • Excellent frame balance with motor and battery mounted low and center, quick release wheels with thru axles for strength and seat drop with remote activation for uninterrupted body position change on climbs, flats and downhill sections
  • Quite expensive due to performance components, sturdy build but heavier than the entry full suspension FS 27.5" Haibike, solid two year warranty from Bosch and support through Currie Technologies in the US

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Introduction

Make:

Haibike

Model:

XDURO Nduro RX

Price:

$7,000 USD

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Trail, Mountain, Downhill

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

5 Year Frame, 2 Year Motor and Battery

Availability:

United States

Model Year:

2015

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

51 lbs (23.13 kg)

Battery Weight:

5.5 lbs (2.49 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.8 lbs (3.99 kg)

Frame Material:

6061 Aluminum Alloy, Hydroformed Tubes, Gravity Casting Interface

Frame Sizes:

15.74 in (39.97 cm)17.7 in (44.95 cm)19.68 in (49.98 cm)21.65 in (54.99 cm)

Frame Types:

Mid-Step

Frame Colors:

Black with White, Gray and Matte Red Accents

Frame Fork Details:

Fox 36 Talas Air Suspensionn with 180 mm Travel, 20 mm Thru Axle

Frame Rear Details:

Fox CTD Suspension with 180 mm Travel, 142/12 mm Axle

Gearing Details:

10 Speed 1x10 Shimano Deore XT M 786 Shadow Plus, 11-36T

Shifter Details:

Shimano Deore SL-M 610 Rapidfire on Right Bar

Cranks:

The Hive, Exalite R Forged Aluminum

Pedals:

XDURO Freeride, Aluminum Alloy Platform

Headset:

Cane Creek Angleset, Tapered

Stem:

Truvativ AKA

Handlebar:

Truvativ Boobar, 780 mm

Brake Details:

Shimano SLX M 675 Ice-Tech Hydraulic Disc with 203 mm Front Rotor and 180 mm Rear Rotor, Shimano SLX M 675 Levers

Grips:

XLC Sport with Locking Rings

Saddle:

Selle San Marco Squod Team

Seat Post:

Kind Shox LEV-DX with Remote Drop

Seat Post Diameter:

31.6 mm

Rims:

DT Swiss E1900 Spline

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Hans Dampf, 26" x 2.35"

Wheel Sizes:

26 in (66.04cm)

Tube Details:

Presta Valve

Accessories:

Aluminum Alloy Chain Guide

Other:

Quick Release Wheels (Front and Rear), Locking Removable Battery Pack with LED Charge Level Indicator, Shimano HG 54 Chain

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bosch Gen2 with Shift Detection

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

350 watts

Motor Torque:

60 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Samsung

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

11 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

396 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

3.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

35 miles (56 km)

Estimated Max Range:

60 miles (97 km)

Display Type:

Removable Backlit Grayscale LCD

Readouts:

Speed, 4 Assist Levels, Battery Voltage, Odometer, Estimated Range, Clock, Max Speed, Average Speed, Trip Time

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad with Tactile Feedback, Stem Mounted

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Combined Torque, Cadence and Speed), (Eco 50%, Tour 120%, Sport 190%, Turbo 275%)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

For that probably-very limited subset of downhill mountain bike riders that are interested in electric bikes, the Haibike XDURO Nduro RX is a dream come true. This is an electric bike that is quite capable of powering you up mountains and then delivering pro-level performance on the way down. The motor and battery weight are balanced on the frame (kept low and center) and relatively well protected from rocks, logs and other hard obstacles that might come into contact. The hydraulic disc brakes were designed with heavy use in mind and have integrated heat sinks for those long downhill sections. the seat post dropper with remote activation lets you stay in motion while adjusting for climbs and descents and the CTD (climb, trail, descend) Fox air suspension is also very convenient to adjust. The first question that came to mind while demoing the Nduro RX wasn’t “is it capable of handing rough terrain” or “what kind of range can I expect”, it was actually more along the lines of “is this bike worth ~$2,000 more than the Haibike FS RX 27.5” model. Do I need 180 mm suspension travel vs. 120 mm? Are these upgraded components necessary for the type of riding I’m doing and if so, should I upgrade further to the $9,000 Haibike Nduro RX Pro that’s two pounds lighter? In short, this electric bike was designed for heavier downhill riding and integrates some of the best components and drive systems around while keeping the price from getting out of control. This is an electric bike that any shop would feel comfortable servicing because the motor is so independent from the cassette and derailleur. It has quick release wheels, off the shelf suspension and trusted hardware. It’s a bicycle first but one that’s encumbered by a 5.5 lb motor and 8.8 lb battery pack and is limited to just 10 gears vs. 21 or 27. In my experience however, most downhill bikes sacrifice gear range in favor of tighter, shorter chains and simpler tougher systems (no front derailleur) so maybe that’s a moot point.

The centerdrive system on the Haibike XDURO Nduro RX consists of a 350 watt geared centerdrive motor developed by Bosch. This is one of the best motors around in my opinion and is quite capable of climbing even the steepest terrain while still achieving impressive range. It can only be activated through pedaling but is super smart, measuring your rear wheel speed, pedal cadence and pedal torque at ~1,000 times per second! Instead of turning one of the bicycle wheels directly, as a hub motor would, the Bosch Centerdrive spins a small sprocket that pulls the chain and leverages gears in the rear cassette for improved climbing ability or top speed. Note that the smaller front sprocket does not require the rider to pedal faster, it’s actually geared to rotate ~2 times for every pedal stroke. It doesn’t introduce significant drag to the system and can be used even in non electric mode, pedaling as you would with a traditional unpowered bicycle. The true benefit to the smaller ring is that it allows the motor to operate at more efficient RPM’s and deliver more effective torque. One possible downside to mid-drive motors like this is that they can increase the strain and wear on your chain and cassette but the Bosch system minimizes this because it has shift detection built in. It automatically lets up when it senses that you’re shifting gears and this reduces mashing. I’ve tested other Haibikes more thoroughly than the Nduro and had the chance to take them on trails in Colorado. What I found was that I used the motor to climb but shut it off on the way down and even on some flat sections. Even if you left it on constantly but rode in the lowest “Eco” mode, the range and performance are very impressive… like 60+ miles impressive. One big question people often ask is “how loud is the motor” and what I’ve found is that noise output depends on which mode you’re using. I often power down when passing people on the trail to be polite and noticed that the sound of my wheel on the dirt and rocks actually muffles the sound of the motor in most cases. It’s not any more pronounced (probably less so) than those freewheel hubs that click when you’re not pedaling. Hopefully the video review above helps to give you some idea but note that the frame-mounted shots tend exaggerate the sound as it gets passed through the frame and into the camera.

Powering the motor here is a Bosch Powerpack 400 battery (that actually delivers 396 watt hours of juice). It’s a beautiful looking pack that’s easy to charge on or off the bike and the locking core (made by ABUS) is sturdy with each key being securely unique (it’s a routed in-cut key like many cars now use). The battery pack itself has a set of five LEDs built in so you can quickly determine the charge level whether it’s on or off the ebike. I recommend charging the pack after at least one bar has been used or before storing for long periods of time. It’s wise to top it off ever three months if you haven’t used it and storing it in an environment that doesn’t get too hot or cold will also help it last longer. The batteries inside the pack are 18650 size and contain a Lithium Manganese chemistry that’s valued for being light weight and durable. These are the same cells used in electric cars like the Tesla Roadster or Model S and of similar high quality. The one complaint I do have with regard to the battery is that it’s not completely integrated into the downtube like the Specialized Turbo or Stromer ST2… This puts weight higher up, doesn’t look as clean and takes up valuable space on the downtube that might otherwise be used for a bottle cage mounting point. With the Nduro RX there are not bosses for mounting a water bottle cage and that means you’ll probably want a CamelBak or similar hydration system. One upside here however is that the battery pack is less expensive to replace, being interchangeable with any other Bosch Gen 2 powered ebike. It should last for 1,000+ charge cycles if cared for and even comes with a two year warranty which is one of the longest I’m aware of in the ebike space. If you do need a replacement (or decide to get a second pack) Currie Technologies offers them for ~$600. In the US, Haibike is supported through Currie and Bosch is supported through Magura.

The control interface on the Haibike XDURO Nduro RX electric bike is the same as all other Bosch systems for this generation. It shows speed, distance traveled, battery capacity remaining, timer and range estimation for each of four assist levels. It’s really neat to see (on the fly) just how far the range estimator thinks you can go because it empowers you to plan accordingly and pop the battery off for a quick charge if needed. You can usually get the pack to ~80% capacity in just an hour and a half. In addition to the removable backlit LCD screen (which has four buttons surrounding it including power, reset, information and lights) there is also an independent button pad that lets you go up or down in assist modes. I like the tactile clicking feedback it produces as you navigate because once you get used to it, you really don’t have to take your eyes off the trail to navigate and control the bike. The display is really one of my favorites on any electric bike because it can be swiveled forward and back to reduce glare and is completely removable for parking in public spaces or simply reducing wear and weight. It even has a micro USB port on the right side which could be useful for powering some small portable electronic devices. If you’re someone who does a lot of trail riding at night, I’ve seen shops that offer to integrate lights and the display has a switch setup to turn them on or off (which basically just turns on/off the backlight on the display if lights aren’t present).

There’s really a lot to appreciate about this bike and even though I’m not a seasoned downhill rider, I could sense the quality and attention to detail. With four frame sizes to choose from it’s one of the few electric bikes that can be setup to fit and ride properly. It doesn’t offer throttle mode but that’s almost preferable for trail riding where you don’t want to compromise your grip or over complicate the cockpit area. The motor is strong and amazingly responsive so it really feels like an extension of you than a powered machine. Growing up in Colorado I would regularly visit ski areas in the summer months and take the gondola up with a rental bike to bomb down. It was a blast, truly a rush of adrenaline and an experience that would have been difficult to replicate without spending hours hiking up. With the advent of ebikes like the Nduro RX just about any mountain becomes accessible and you don’t have to spend the drive time or chairlift money to make it happen. There were always hard core riders who would actually pedal up and then bomb trails but with some knee injuries I’ve experienced snowboarding and surfing, that just isn’t an option and frankly, I’d rather focus on the fun parts with a bike like this.

Pros:

  • Quality CTD air suspension from Fox is light weight, rugged, offers plenty of travel (180 mm front and rear) and has three easy settings for Climb, Trail and Descend
  • Proprietary Sprocket Equalizing System (SES) reduces chain kickback, keeps the chain from slapping the rear stay when riding on rough terrain and reduces drops, the chain itself has teeth that alternate from fat to skinny which helps to reduce slipping
  • The Shimano SLX brake pads are connected to heat sinks designed to more rapidly dissipate heat that gets generated on long downhill stretches of terrain
  • Sturdy thru-axles add stiffness and strength for downhill riding, they also make it easier to put the wheels on and line up the disc brake rotors
  • Seat post dropper with remote activation is perfect for on the fly body position adjustment, drop the seat when bombing downhill sections so you can use your legs as shock absorbers then raise it instantly for climbing and spinning on flats
  • Quick release on front and rear wheel makes the bike easier to break down when transporting it in your car and comes in handy for trail maintenance, also makes the bike less intimidating to work on
  • Excellent range thanks to the efficient centerdrive motor that leverages the rear cassette and high performance Lithium-ion 396 watt hour battery
  • Great torque output, this bike can climb very well in Turbo mode when you’re pedaling with a lower gear
  • Battery pack locks to frame for security using a quality ABUS core, it can be charged on or off the frame for convenience or to reduce weight if you’d like to ride this as a normal bicycle
  • Stiff cranks, peformance wheelset, decent aluminum alloy platform pedals, rigid frame for good power transfer when riding, tapered head tube for strength
  • Solid 10 speed cassette with quality Shimano Deore XT M 786 Shadow Plus components offering a comfortable cadence at many speeds
  • Great customer support and warranty from Currie Technologies in the US (part of Accell Group which owns Haibike)
  • Four frame sizes offer better fit for a wider range of riders (40cm, 45cm, 50cm, 55cm)
  • Shift detection helps reduce wear on the chain and sprockets, the bike experiences less mashing and is more intuitive to ride as a result

Cons:

  • Much more expensive than the Haibike XDURO FS RX 27.5″ full suspension offering ($2,000+ more) but you get higher quality components, 26″ wheels vs. 27.5″ for improved handling in downhill environments and the long travel 180 mm suspension vs. 120
  • The battery pack takes up the space where a water bottle cage might otherwise mount and there isn’t one on the seat tube due to the rear suspension setup, consider and aftermarket accessory for the saddle rails or grab a CamelBak
  • No throttle mode, this bike only offers pedal assist (like all Bosch powered systems) but will get a better range than if it did, top speed is limited to 20 mph

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barry c
3 weeks ago

Hi, I'm an avid mountain biker, I ride cross country and to a lesser extent mild downhill runs. I put in usually around 100 miles + per week. I ride a Yeti MTB. I'm getting older, knees falling apart and a few other issues, etc so I've decided to invest in an Ebike to ride part time. I've been looking at ebike reviews and unfortunately I cannot find any haibike reviews from actual mountain bikers. I've found one or two, but it's usually someone jumping jumps or riding up a gravel road or paved road. Nobody ever really discusses the frame geometry, how they handle etc? Or if they're good on rocky rooty trails etc. I don't ride on dirt paths, I ride on actual singletrack roots and rocks and switchbacks etc too.

I have ordered a Haibike Sduro Nduro RX. I only found a few reviews and videos for this bike, none of which told me much. This has a long travel fork (180mm) which would normally be excessive for regular cross country riding but it can be adjusted down to 150mm which isn't too bad...especially since this has a motor to haul it around? Or I'm hoping this will be the case anyway?

Is anyone here a regular experienced mountain biker? Does anyone here have a Haibike mountain bike? Do they handle well? I would have gone with the specialized since it's a known quantity, specialized FSR is a pretty decent bike, and the turbo lev just added a motor...but the Haibike was a much better value, but I know nothing about the bike/handling/etc.

Thank you.

Hey, I ride a 2017 haibike Xduro all mountain 7 that has 3" tires (boost) and 27.5 wheels and it rips the single track. I raced for many years and still avidly ride 2000 miles a year on single track in the N cali sierras Tahoe and grass valley areas. I keep an extra 500 battery on board and use it regularly when riding over 20 miles. The tires gobble up obstacles (10 to 15 lb. pressure) like they are not there and my confidence is 30% higher i will make it through a tough spot.
I committed and rode centuries for decades and even raced pro mountain bike in the 80s.
I am 70 and last year developed knee arthritis. I just a month ago finished a procedure called Regenexx. The short version is an MD takes bone marrow blood from your hip and spins it down to get the stem cells and injects it into your knees.
In a month my knees are 80% better and expect the regeneration of my soft tissue to continue for another year. I could not even walk before i was on crutches. This is so cool!! its expensive $7K and no insurance will pay for it. A friend of mine had it done to his hips a year ago and he is way better. I highly recommend it. More info if you ask.

Bike_On
8 months ago

I ride technical trails on a regular trail bike (Giant Trance X 0 29er). I love the bike. I would also like an e-bike with the most trail capability.

My only experience is that I converted an old hard-tail to an e-bike with a 1500 watt pedelec hub-motor and 1000 wh battery behind the seat, and it was fun on the street, but it was terrible on trails. Unridable really, due to the weight and balance of the battery and motor. Also, the direct drive would not be good for off-road climbing. Battey and motor should be mid-bike and as low as possible, and battery should be about a 500 wh. I sold off the parts.

So I have decided a few things that I want in my next e-bike.

1. Must have a mid-drive - like Shimano, Yamaha, Bosche, or Brose.

2. Must have stealth look with well integrated motor and battery.

3. Must have torque-sensing and a pedal feeling be as transparent as possible without awkward surging.

4. 250, 350, 500, or 750 watts are all ok. I don't mind at all if it is 250 as that will be lighter, save battery power, and I am happy to pedal.

5. 15 or 28 mph are both ok. I would prefer 28, but not if the bike is worse in other ways.

6. Prefer compatibility with 3.0 inch tires (650B+).

These are the bikes I have found so far that look like what I want, but I have not ridden any of them. Which are the most trail-capable and have the most natural pedal feeling?

Giant Full-E+
Haibike XDuro NDuro Pro $5,800
Lapierre Overvolt AM 900+ £6400
Moustache Samedi 27 Trail Limited £7600
Nicolai ION EBOXX
Rotwild R.X+ FS €6,999
Scott E-Genius 700 Plus Tuned $5,400
Scott E-Spark 700 Plus TUNED £6,099
Specialized Turbo Levo FSR (Four trim levels - $4500 to $9500)

A real Mtn biker with real Mtn bike tastes. The demands of the trail are real and forth telling. A cheap trail or mtn bike will not perform or last. Same thing applies to MTN ebikes. The extra weight demands higher end and rugged components. For 2-3 lbs, sacrificing weight for strength is my motto. Go for lighter/small battery and stay 350 or less watts when riding to support a good hour ride, but less weight.

Eddie recommend KTM, but he is in Britain.

SKB
2 years ago

Why does it have the intuvia and not the nyon system?

Will Kift
2 years ago

What do you prefer, Xduro or Sduro?

karel degreef
2 years ago

they should make a bit of a bigger batery pack and let it go 30 mp/h  (45 to 50 km/h )
and i would love to have one for work and play  :-D

socman7575
3 years ago

Can you tell me what frame size this is and how tall you are? I'm 5'9" and can't decide between M and L frame?

Joe G.P.
3 years ago

that is one sexy thang

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

+Joe G.P. Oh yeah... The design, colors and performance are stellar. Would date this bike :D

kaikung Ma
3 years ago

this is very good bike,I like it very mush.

benzoesan sodu
3 years ago

I have a question. Some Bosch motors have assistance speed up to 45km/h and some up to 25km/h.
So they are the same motors only various of drivers? Or otchers motors? All have 250W so it's strange. On ebay some guys offering magic "dongle" with unclocking max speed from 25 to 45km/h. It's safe for that motors?

Also will you test e-bikes with Brose or Yamaha motor? 
Thanks for reply!

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

+Michał Giczalec Sure, maybe someday I'll do a test like that. I believe it voids the warranty on the Bosch system so I can't do it on review bikes that I don't own. If and when I see one of these on someone else's bike maybe I'll get the chance :)

benzoesan sodu
3 years ago

Thanks for reply. Will You tested ebike with Bosch motor with tuning dongle kit? I think many people would be interested of it :D

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

+Michał Giczalec Hi Michal, I'd love to test the Yamaha system and others but haven't seen them in the US yet. I may travel to Europe later this year so fingers crossed! Regarding Bosch motor size... I've heard that all may use the same internals but be programmed to different power output for different markets (250 for Europe and 350 for US) but I cannot say for sure. The motor speed dongle you mentioned simply halves the max speed once you approach 15 mph and that tricks the system into going faster. A friend tried it on a Euro bike and that worked pretty well for a while but eventually sort of overheated and he needed to ride slower. This was on relatively flat terrain with a bit of hard packed trail.

3dkiller
3 years ago

Love the design of the bike, looks really good high quality for sure. Its only missing Fenders :-) . Only downside of the ebike is the ridicoules price.  and the 20miles speed limit but thats not the bikes fault :)

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

+3dkiller I bought the lower end full suspension Haibike called the FS 27.5" and really like it. Still not cheap but great quality and an awesome, responsive and powerful ride: http://electricbikereview.com/haibike/xduro-fs-rx-27-5/

Jason Thai
3 years ago

they should of used this paint scheme on the pro instead of this one cause the pros paint scheme is not as attractive .

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

+Jason Thai I grew up with cartoons like this: http://i.imgur.com/06ka9.jpg so maybe my tastes veer towards "loud" for other reasons :P

Jason Thai
3 years ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com yeh that could be very true :).

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

The Pro is pretty loud, lots of fluorescent colors... Maybe the thinking was that people who spend a lot of money like that want to be seen :)

ForbinColossus
3 years ago

I put this next to the 'Pro' on your site priced at 7000 vs 7800. Didnt you say 9000. in this review? Or am I comparing the wrong haibikes?
http://electricbikereview.com/compare/

XDURO Nduro RX   XDURO AMT Pro 27.5"
$7,000.00               $7,800.00

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

There's an AMT Pro and also an Nduro RX Pro (that I've reviewed but haven't posted yet). I believe the Nduro RX Pro is the $9K bike :)

brighton dude
3 years ago

That "sprocket equalising system" looks like a good idea. Without that extra sprocket I guess the chain would be hammering the chain-stay.

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

Completely agree, I think that's one of the major benefits (if not the primary) and the only thing I thought it did before I looked a little deeper and noticed the unique chain and thought about the impact of rear suspension on chain length as you ride over bumps. Pretty neat stuff.

vibe2light
3 years ago

I think you deserve a following camera man/person. I wanna see how these type models copes with steep accent / decent while negotiating up over logs & rocks etc then some SlowMo closeup bike component action stuff might be cool ? Good job, time to expand for ya fans like me? Just a hopeful suggestion.   

Steve Smith
3 years ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com Solo Shot 2

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

That's a great point... believe me I'd love to have more and better shots and have been looking into the automated systems that pan and follow as well as drones that can follow along. The issue is that most are so far away the shots wouldn't deliver more than an exciting spec floating by vs. the up close stuff I try to get. Always open to ideas, feedback and volunteers ;)

jc hg
3 years ago

Please review of Scott E-Spark

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

+jc hg Sounds like a fun event! Wish I was nearby to join you :)

jc hg
3 years ago

Ok, thanks. I will try to ride it in the Scott Days in Madrid 7 and 8 March.
Very good videos. Great work

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

It's on my list, haven't seen any in shops to date. I'm also looking for the Yamaha mid-drive and the Shimano system. Lots to see this year :)

zwarst
3 years ago

I think a 2nd hand quality bike, with good gearing & brakes is a good base to make a mid mounted 750w 8 fun motor connected to a frame mounted battery is all thats needed for the average joe. 

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

+zwarst Thanks! I'll reach out to them as time permits, would love to check these out :)

zwarst
3 years ago

The maker of the bike is Motoped (US based), it started as a motorised bike yet HPC the maker of the electric motor teamed up with Race Proven Motors in North San Diego and have both a 3500w and 6000w to test.You can call or email to schedule and appointment.818-775 0337 
sales@theboostdepot.com
Look forward to a review- Good luck!
/watch?v=bGg6NVONUWU
/watch?v=YepQZr_9Itc

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

+zwarst That's awesome! Love the look they achieved and the balance of their mid-frame hub motor. In many ways it reminds me of the Stealth bikes: http://electricridereview.com/category/stealth/ do you know where this bike is made or sold? Maybe I can do a review.

zwarst
3 years ago

Check out Electric Powered Motoped 
/watch?v=2PaKeCyw-jY

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

Yeah, that's a solid setup... I've actually seen some companies offering a pre-build just like that. Check out http://bmebikes.com/

Jill Kews
3 years ago

Hubba-hubba. That bike needs me in it's life.

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

Get in line sucka!

Danny Dietze
3 years ago

$7,000 is a bit much for a toy but, I will say that having full suspension with a mid-drive is super fun and worth the extra cash and effort.  Far more economical to purchase a decent used full suspension bike and add a bafang motor.

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

True, the BBS01 and 02 are solid options. I've fallen in love with the performance (and range) of Bosch but am also excited to see Yamaha and Shimano later this year. If you want full suspension and like this setup but don't want to spend as much I recommend the FS 27.5" http://electricbikereview.com/haibike/xduro-fs-rx-27-5/

The chosen 1
3 years ago

OMG!!! SO BEAUTIFUl!!

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

I feel the same way. I would buy this bike chocolate for Valentine's day she's so beautiful :D

no1garbologist
3 years ago

one good wipeout on this bike and its going to be a huge money pit. not a hater just sayin. way too much money for what you get and hopefully it doesn't get stolen. who hasn't wiped out on their bike on a fun woods trail?

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

Ha! No way... this thing is burly and the drive systems are really well protected. I bet you could easily fix or replace specific parts (just like any downhill bike) and be right as rain. I've bailed on rental bikes several times (even electric bikes) and they don't break as easily as you might think, especially the Bosch system. Regarding theft, have you seen this: https://www.thetrackr.com/ I also rarely leave bikes like this locked up (and definitely not overnight). Easier to take the wheels off and store inside.

FRANK ROBY
3 years ago

Not as good as my thron impulse from kalkoff.

FRANK ROBY
3 years ago

16 1/2 stone weight 6'2" height terrain varies I can tell you it has no problem handling hills.

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

+FRANK ROBY Care to share your height and weight Frank? Also, some feedback on terrain or maybe a Google map of the area could be nice to use as a reference for others with similar hopes. Ps. you can always post full reviews with pictures and video in the forums and you mentioned you were getting a Bionx, that forum is at http://electricbikereview.com/community/forums/bionx/

FRANK ROBY
3 years ago

+1650million yes 70 miles with 70 Newton metres of torque.

1650million
3 years ago

+FRANK ROBY 70 miles in boost mode, Frank? Really?

FRANK ROBY
3 years ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com yes I buy the bike with the best possible value I must admit the Haibike looks good however I went for the extra batt capacity 27.5 inch wheels aren't that bad.

1650million
3 years ago

7000$... not bad. I bet you can get a very decent car for that kind of money in the US. :D (Come to think of it, you could even fit a water bottle inside it... ;)

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

+Jason Thai I currently do not have an electric bike (been traveling to do reviews). The bike I did have last was the Haibike XDURO FS RX which I've loaned to my Uncle to commute with. My hope is that I'll learn more about the long term durability of Bosch through his experiences. So far he's gotten three flat tires and the chain broke which also bent the derailleur. He had loaned it to his son to ride when that happened so I'm not sure exactly what went wrong... The motor and battery are doing great :)

Jason Thai
3 years ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com what bike you ride now ?.

Jason Thai
3 years ago

+ElectricBikeReview.com nice reviews cory by the way .always like learning more about these ebikes .yeh im definatly going to get one when i have the money .it would just be nice to get out in the fresh air and the money you would save on fuel would be great .

ElectricBikeReview.com
3 years ago

+Jason Thai There are some dangerous places in the US to ride as well... Sorry to hear about the hazards where you are at, maybe in the future we will see more bicycles than cars and the problems will decrease. I bought a Haibike in the middle of 2014 and did a bunch of tests before giving it to my Uncle who has used it for commuting to work each day. So far the only problems he has had are several flat tires and the chain broke and derailleur got bent. The motor and battery seem to be working pretty well. I'll try to let you know if anything happens to the motor :)