Haibike XDURO AMT RX Review

Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Electric Bike Review 1
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Bosch Centerdrive And Ses
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Bosch Powerpack 400 Battery
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Intuvia Lcd Display Panel
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Crank Brothers Kronolog Dropper Post
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Fox 32 Talas Suspension Fork Ctd
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Fox Float Ctd Rear Suspension
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Schwalbe Hans Dampf 27 5
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Shimano Deore M615 203 Mm Disc Brake
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Xlc Sport Grips Locking
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Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Electric Bike Review 1
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Bosch Centerdrive And Ses
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Bosch Powerpack 400 Battery
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Intuvia Lcd Display Panel
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Crank Brothers Kronolog Dropper Post
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Fox 32 Talas Suspension Fork Ctd
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Fox Float Ctd Rear Suspension
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Schwalbe Hans Dampf 27 5
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Shimano Deore M615 203 Mm Disc Brake
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Xlc Sport Grips Locking
Haibike Xduro Amt Rx Stock 1

Summary

  • A high performance all-mountain electric bike with premium suspension from Fox and hydraulic disc brakes from Shimano
  • Thru axles on front and rear wheel for improved stiffness and durability, seat post dropper for seamless body position changes - transitioning from climbing (high) to descending over bumps (low)
  • Excellent weight distribution with low unsprung weight, removable battery and display panel for easy transport and charging, quick release wheels front and rear for quick maintenance, industry-leading warranty and support

Video Review

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Introduction

Make:

Haibike

Model:

XDURO AMT RX

Price:

$6,350 USD

Body Position:

Forward

Suggested Use:

Trail, Mountain

Electric Bike Class:

Pedal Assist (Class 1)
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Warranty:

5 Year Frame, 2 Year Motor and Battery

Availability:

United States

Model Year:

20142015

Bicycle Details

Total Weight:

49.2 lbs (22.31 kg)

Battery Weight:

5.5 lbs (2.49 kg)

Motor Weight:

8.8 lbs (3.99 kg)

Frame Material:

6061 Aluminum Alloy, Hydroformed Tubes, Gravity Casting Interface

Frame Sizes:

16 in (40.64 cm)17 in (43.18 cm)18 in (45.72 cm)20 in (50.8 cm)

Frame Types:

High-Step

Frame Colors:

Aluminum with Matte Lime and Gray Accents

Frame Fork Details:

Fox 32 Talas Suspension with 120 to 150 mm Travel and CTD (Climb, Trail, Descend Adjust)

Frame Rear Details:

Fox Float Suspension with 150 mm Travel and CTD (Climb, Trail, Descend Adjust)

Gearing Details:

10 Speed 1x10 Shimano Deore XT M 786 Shadow Plus, 11-36T

Shifter Details:

Shimano SLX M 670, Rapidfire, I-Spec, on Right Bar

Cranks:

The Hive, Exalite R Forged Aluminum Alloy, 18 Tooth Chainring

Pedals:

XLC Aluminum Alloy Platform

Headset:

FSA No. 57, Semi-Integrated, Tapered

Stem:

XDURO Aluminum Alloy, Ahead

Handlebar:

XDURO Lowriser Aluminum Alloy

Brake Details:

Shimano Deore M615 Hydraulic Disc with 203 mm Front Rotor and 180 mm Rear Rotor, Shimano M615 Levers

Grips:

XLC Sport with Locking Rings, Flat Rubber

Saddle:

XDURO Light MTB

Seat Post:

Crank Brothers Kronolog with Remote Drop on Left Bar (125 mm Travel)

Seat Post Length:

405 mm

Seat Post Diameter:

31.6 mm

Rims:

DT Swiss 466d, Double Wall

Spokes:

DT Swiss Industry 2.0 mm

Tire Brand:

Schwalbe Hans Dampf PSC, 27.5" x 2.25"

Wheel Sizes:

27.5 in (69.85cm)

Tire Details:

Foldable

Tube Details:

Presta Valve

Accessories:

Aluminum Alloy Chain Guide, Sprocket Equalizing System (S.E.S.) Tensioner

Other:

Quick Release Wheels (Front and Rear), Locking Removable Battery Pack with LED Charge Level Indicator, Shimano HG 54 Chain, XLC EVO Hubs with 15 mm Thru Axle Front and 142/ 12 Axle Rear

Electronic Details

Motor Brand:

Bosch Gen 2

Motor Type:

Mid-Mounted Geared Motor
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Motor Nominal Output:

350 watts

Motor Torque:

60 Newton meters

Battery Brand:

Samsung

Battery Voltage:

36 volts

Battery Amp Hours:

11 ah

Battery Watt Hours:

396 wh

Battery Chemistry:

Lithium-ion

Charge Time:

3.5 hours

Estimated Min Range:

25 miles (40 km)

Estimated Max Range:

60 miles (97 km)

Display Type:

Intuvia, Removable Backlit Grayscale LCD

Readouts:

Speed, 4 Assist Levels, Battery Voltage, Odometer, Estimated Range, Clock, Max Speed, Average Speed, Trip Time

Display Accessories:

Independent Button Pad with Tactile Feedback

Drive Mode:

Advanced Pedal Assist (Combined Torque, Cadence and Speed), (Eco 50%, Tour 120%, Sport 190%, Turbo 275%)

Top Speed:

20 mph (32 kph)

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Written Review

The Haibike AMT RX is an “all mountain” full suspension electric bike with Bosch drive systems that are capable of powerful ascents and impressive range. It’s a step up from the Haibike FSRX which also offers full suspension but doesn’t include the CTD (climb, trail, descend) adjust from Fox, opting instead for a simple remote lockout. Haibike is a premium bicycle brand from Europe that has fully embraced electric assist and it really shows on their frame designs. You’ve got a 6061 aluminum alloy frame here with a tapered head tube and four bar linkage system on the rear swing arm to reduce bob but maintain traction over rough terrain. There is very little unsprung weight thanks to the well positioned centerdrive motor and downtube battery pack. Several upgrades caught my attention and performed well during my ride tests including a Crank Brothers Kronolog seat post with 125 mm of travel and remote drop switch on the right bar, oversized Shimano Deore hydraulic disc brakes with 203 mm front and 180 mm rear rotors and a fancy sprocket equalizing system that elevates the chain and reduces kickback over rough terrain. The front sprocket also includes an aluminum guide to reduce chain drops and the teeth alternate from narrow to wide. This “NW” tooth pattern reduces chain slip and overall, the bike and drive system feel extremely fast and responsive. The top assisted speed is 20 mph and the cutout is smooth and natural feeling.

Driving this bike is a 350 watt geared mid-drive motor from Bosch. It offers 60 newton meters of torque and responds to the rear wheel speed, pedal cadence and pedal torque to switch on and off. While many other mid mounted electric bike motors use traditional sized sprockets, Bosch systems use smaller chainrings that rotate about 2.5x for every pedal stroke. This allows the motor to operate at a higher RPM and gain a mechanical advantage while pulling the chain. These front sprockets come in three sizes including 18T, 19T and 20T which the bicycle manufacturer actually producing the sprocket (which is how Haibike was able to do the narrow wide thing with the teeth) and the XDURO AMT RX has opted for the off-road chainring size with 18T for the most leverage. As shown in the video, at higher RPMs there is a distinct whining noise produced by the motor but that is somewhat masked by the sound of your tires rolling over dirt, sticks and rocks off-road. Note that I was in the highest level of assist for most of my ride tests. The outer casing on the motor is purely aesthetic and designed to protect the metal-encased drive which bolts directly to the motor plate (joining the downtube, seat tube and chain stays).

Powering the AMT RX is a Bosch Powerpack 400 battery pack that resides just above the motor, mounted to the downtube. It’s positioned well for both weight distribution and protection in the event of a crash and is removable for transporting or charging off of the frame. You get 36 volts of power and 11 amp hours of capacity here which is a touch above average in terms of size but the way this power is used and the quality of the cells inside is quite impressive. The cells are made by Samsung and consist of a Lithium-ion chemistry designed to be light weight and long lasting. The pack only weighs ~5.5 lbs so you could conceivably buy a spare and toss it into a backpack… the charger only weighs ~1.5 lbs and is fairly small as well so brining it along would be easier and much less expensive than buying a second battery. I like that the pack has an LED readout on the side for showing your current battery level (handy if you’ve got the pack inside and can’t remember if it has already been charged) and that it includes an ABUS locking core for security. The pack also has a sort of built in handle that makes it easier to carry around, dropping it could crack the case and potentially damage the connections inside. To really care for this pack and help it reach 1,000+ charge cycles I recommend storing in a cool, dry environment and maintaining a 20% to 80% fill at all times. If you haven’t used the bike in several months, top off the battery.

Operating this ebike is very intuitive and comfortable, even while riding, because there’s a large adjustable LCD display mounted the center of the handlebar as well as an independent button pad mounted near the left grip. Once the battery is charged and connected to the frame mount you simply press the power button at the lower left corner of the Intuivia display panel and it comes to life. This display is backlit for use at dusk or dawn (you can turn the light on with the bulb switch at the lower right corner of the display) and it is also completely removable for storage and protection off of the bike… just make sure the set-screw isn’t installed (this is designed for security to make the display more permanent). All of the plastic buttons on the display and button pad produce a light “click” when activated which provides a bit of confirmation while riding (if you can’t look down at the display) and they have tested well for me in wet conditions. The Intuvia display panel actually uses its own small battery and can be switched on even while not mounted to the bike. When it is attached however, the display charges off of the main battery pack. Near the top right corner of the display there’s a micro USB port (under a rubber flap) that is used for firmware updates and off-bike charging. This port may also be used while the display is mounted to the frame for charging your portable electronics like an MP3 player or smart phone but does have limited voltage (500 ma at 5 volts). So the basics of operation here are on/off and up/down to navigate through four levels of assist. The highest level offers the most power for climbing and speed but uses significantly more power. I find myself using the two lowest levels of assist most frequently and have been able to reach 50+ miles per charge on relatively flat, smooth terrain. In addition to pedal assist, there is also a “zero” mode which lets the bike ride without power while still keeping the display on like a traditional cycle computer. There are several different readouts that the display can show if you press the little “i” icon including trip distance, max speed and range (among others). I like range because it actually calculates your “estimated range” on the fly using the remaining battery level and your current assist setting as input.

There are many Haibikes to choose from but the AMT RX and FSRX are my two favorites because they are more affordable and versatile than the others. This thing is capable of downhill riding, cross country or cruising around town thanks to the CTD setting on both suspension elements. It’s relatively light weight at ~49 lbs and the warranty is solid with five years on the frame and two on the motor and battery. I love that the frame comes in four sizes for improved fit and that the wheels offer quick release (for easy transport and maintenance) paired with thru-axles for a stiff and rugged operation. The paint job is pretty cool and the angled top tube makes this bike easier to stand over and handle for shorter riders. My only real complaint is the lack of a water bottle cage mounting point which is common on many full suspension bicycles and especially ebikes. Consider a CamelBak so you don’t get too thirsty out there. For a truly capable off-road electric assist experience, the Haibike XDURO AMT RX is one of the best options available right now.

Pros:

  • High quality air suspension by Fox (front and rear) that are light and rugged with great adjustability (climb, trail, descend CTD on both)
  • Proprietary Sprocket Equalizing System (SES) reduces chain kickback, keeps the chain from slapping the rear stay when riding on rough terrain and reduces drops, the chain itself has teeth that alternate from narrow to wide which helps reduce slipping
  • The hydraulic disc brake rotors are enormous with 203 mm in the front and 180 in the rear for improved leverage, stiffer thru-axle design keeps brakes and wheel aligned under pressure
  • Seat post dropper with remote activation is perfect for on the fly body position adjustment, drop the seat when bombing downhill sections so you can use your legs as shock absorbers then raise it instantly for climbing and spinning on flats
  • Quick release on front and rear wheel makes the bike easier to break down when transporting it in your car and comes in handy for trail maintenance, also makes the bike less intimidating to work on
  • Excellent range thanks to the efficient centerdrive motor that leverages the rear cassette and high performance Lithium-ion 396 watt hour battery
  • Great torque output, this bike can climb very well in Turbo mode when you’re pedaling with a lower gear
  • Battery pack locks to frame for security using a quality ABUS core, it can be charged on or off the frame for convenience or to reduce weight if you’d like to ride this as a normal bicycle, pack also includes an LED charge level indicator
  • Intuitive display panel is large, easy to read and removable – the stand alone button pad is easy to reach without taking your hand off the left grip and “clicks” when pressed for tactile feedback (you don’t have to look down when riding)
  • Stiff cranks, peformance wheelset, decent aluminum alloy XLC platform pedals, rigid frame for good power transfer when riding, tapered head tube for strength
  • Great customer support and warranty from Currie Technologies in the US (part of Accell Group which owns Haibike)
  • Four frame sizes offer better fit for a wider range of riders (40cm, 44cm, 48cm, 52cm)
  • Shift detection helps reduce wear on the chain and sprockets, the bike experiences less mashing and is easier to ride as a result
  • Beautiful paint job, brushed aluminum with fluorescent green and gray accents, all cables and wires are routed through the frame which reduces the potential for snags when riding or hauling this bike

Cons:

  • The battery pack takes up the space where a water bottle cage might otherwise mount and there isn’t one on the seat tube due to the rear suspension setup, consider and aftermarket accessory for the saddle rails or grab a CamelBak
  • No throttle mode, this bike only offers pedal assist (like all Bosch powered systems) but will get a better range than if it did, top speed is limited to 20 mph
  • The brake levers do not include a motor inhibitor but the drive system is more responsive than others I’ve tested so it hasn’t been an issue

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Comments (6) YouTube Comments

Steve
4 years ago

You had it up to 40.6 :) Even if that was metric, still 25.2

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Dan
4 years ago

You mention the USB port on the Bosch system. The USB port on this system doesn’t seem to output any power so the only reason that it is there is to configure the computer. This is usually done at the dealer, but with all adapters I’ve tried, I have not found any way to charge a phone or anything off this.

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Court
4 years ago

Hmm… Bummer! I asked the guys at Haibike who said they checked with Bosch who said “You must uses a micro USB A/B cable which dealers can purchase thru our service providers. The port will deliver 500ma at 5 volts.” I have not tested it myself, I appreciate your input and would love to hear if you do get it working.

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Michael Ott
3 years ago

I’m still bike shopping, and noticed the above comment. Looking at the pictures of a micro USB A/B cable on Amazon, it looks to me just like the cable that comes with any cell phone. If it is, then as long as the unit is turned on, it should be sending some power to your phone. Anyway, my question is related to the lack of a kickstand. Does Currie think that after spending this kind of money for a bike, that we would want to lay it in the dirt? It would also be nice to have some place to mount a fender or rack. If I buy this bike, I’ll be using it on the road, as well as on the trail.

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Court
3 years ago

I think you’re correct but every time I’ve tested one of the Haibikes I haven’t had a cable to test for certain… I’ll keep trying, please let me know if you test it and succeed! Great point about the kickstand, I personally really enjoy having one but a lot of high end mountain bikes just don’t offer it. This is true for all brands, look at some of the high end Santa Cruz, Specialized or Trek bicycles for mountain riding… they just skip the kickstand because it could rattle and will add weight. I see both sides but like to have one for those days I take my bike around town. I purchased a Haibike last year to test the Bosch system out and ended up adding fenders and a rack, they worked alright but sort of twisted or spun if bumped and eventually I just took the front fender off… Here’s a video I shot about the accessories before I really had the chance to test them.

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Neal
3 years ago

I started off with a Radrover electric bike then my friend purchased an HPC Enduro 1300 watt mid drive bike as a special on their website and I was intrigued at the benefits that mid drive provided. At this point I had watched dozens of your videos and read several reviews. I took a trip to Las Vegas again and visited a store specializing in ebikes and ended buying my 2016 Haibike xduro AMT RX mainly on your reviews of Haibikes in general. While in Las Vegas I took the Haibike on the same Redrock Canyon loop I took the Radrover on, and the experience was so much better on the Haibike. I can’t begin to explain how much I love that bike! My friend who purchased the HPC Enduro has even told me how much he prefers the Bosch system to his bike. I think the best feature is the torque sensing ability of the motor. When I go for a ride I typically set the assist to “tour” (2/4 setting) and forget about other settings as 95% of the riding I do is compensated by the torque sensing ability of the Bosch system. The Bosch system seems to read my mind (in a way) and just know what I need. The torque sensing ability combined with cadence provides a “set it and forget it” setting for most of my riding. I also love the full suspension of the Haibike as I have back and neck problems of my own. Both have benefits, but the Haibike is in a class of its own.

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